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Re: Neowise
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2020, 06:47:52 AM »
Change your DNS to a non Islam government controlled one.

Anyways there was a satellite that had a really good optic. The coolant ran out so now the optic is only ok but it’s good enough to find objects in the IR as in objects that aren’t reflecting light.
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« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2020, 06:50:36 AM »
The claims it has been discovered March 27th does not magically make it discovered 27th, but makes it a baseless claim. It's just a fabricated lie to prove what they've discovered before. They saw this in July, and they wrote in many places "we've actually discovered it before". If they were discovered it in March 27th, where are the old sources cited? Absent! You're so cute when you're desperate, rabblack.
Except as clearly shown it was announced on April 1st, with observations from the few days prior.


You ignoring the link won't magically make it non-existent:
https://minorplanetcenter.net/mpec/K20/K20G05.html

Wise claiming a comet millions of people have seen is fake is... well classic Wise.

Nobody sane could possibly deny it's existence, let alone claim everyone taking pictures of it is a paid shill, plus being unable apparently to use Google to find ANYTHING.

The whole world is a mystery to that one.

I bet if he did end up seeing it, he would just claim NASA has a plane shooting him in the eye with a holoprojector or slipped something into his anti-psychotic meds.

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Re: Neowise
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2020, 06:52:41 AM »
Change your DNS to a non Islam government controlled one.

Anyways there was a satellite that had a really good optic. The coolant ran out so now the optic is only ok but it’s good enough to find objects in the IR as in objects that aren’t reflecting light.
I didn't read after read satellite...
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« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2020, 07:03:43 AM »
Continue to wear horse blinders.
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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2020, 07:08:58 AM »
No. I look with the naked eye and I can't see anything. Maybe it's because I couldn't see it magically whats imaginary. Red pill may help me if this would be matrix movie.
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« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2020, 07:13:47 AM »
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No. I look with the naked eye and I can't see anything

Have you got access to a pair of binoculars by any chance?  That's what I used to first locate it. Just a basic pair will do fine.  A pair of 10x50s for example.

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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2020, 07:15:41 AM »
No. I look with the naked eye and I can't see anything. Maybe it's because I couldn't see it magically whats imaginary. Red pill may help me if this would be matrix movie.

He reminds me of this;

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« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2020, 07:17:01 AM »
That is scepti as well.  He literally doesn't believe pull exists, everything is push.
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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2020, 07:17:17 AM »
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No. I look with the naked eye and I can't see anything

Have you got access to a pair of binoculars by any chance?  That's what I used to first locate it. Just a basic pair will do fine.  A pair of 10x50s for example.
I was talking about satellites. Did you see a satellite by using binoculars? Wow!  ???
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« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2020, 07:18:11 AM »
No. I look with the naked eye and I can't see anything. Maybe it's because I couldn't see it magically whats imaginary. Red pill may help me if this would be matrix movie.

He reminds me of this;



This too... except he slipped the one on the left sadly.


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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2020, 07:24:20 AM »
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I was talking about satellites. Did you see a satellite by using binoculars? Wow!  ???

You don't need binoculars to see satellites. There are loads visible with the naked eye.

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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2020, 07:26:25 AM »
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I was talking about satellites. Did you see a satellite by using binoculars? Wow!  ???

You don't need binoculars to see satellites. There are loads visible with the naked eye.
Sure there are. Can you take one of these many satellites can be visible a video please?  ^-^
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« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2020, 07:55:46 AM »

You really don't get out much do you? Just for a day or two, if your government lets you, take a trip to a dark sky area and look up an hour or two after sunset, there are shitloads, no need for anything other than your eyes.

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« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2020, 08:33:37 AM »
I can only tell people where to look in the sky, what you can see and where appropriate what equipment is needed. If they choose not to believe any of it then that's up to them.  But anyone who is even just a casual sky watcher will know that several satellites which are easily visible to the naked eye (they look exactly like moving stars) pass across the sky routinely on any clear night during the year.

There is lots of information online about observing satellites. The link below is just one example I found in about 10 seconds.

http://www.satobs.org/

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If you have ever star-gazed shortly after sunset or before sunrise, you have probably noticed one or two "stars" sailing gracefully across the sky. These are Earth-orbiting satellites, visible due to the reflection of the Sun's light off their surfaces toward the observer. Hundreds of satellites are visible to the unaided eye;



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« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2020, 08:37:31 AM »
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I was talking about satellites. Did you see a satellite by using binoculars? Wow!  ???

You don't need binoculars to see satellites. There are loads visible with the naked eye.
Sure there are. Can you take one of these many satellites can be visible a video please?  ^-^

Has Wise ever, even ONCE accepted any evidence he demanded?  I've seen him demand all kinds of things, seen them provided, never saw him accept any of it.

Just challenge people to prove something is real by getting a picture or video and then when shown it, unable to accept it and just outright calling people liars.

I'd love to see an example of him accepting anything.

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« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2020, 09:07:57 AM »
I have seen it with the naked eye. And the reason he asks for video is a troll question. With a video you cannot get the exposure time required to film it clearly and he knows it.

Wise, please just take my advice to look from the mountains or whatever you have close. Top of a high building would also work I guess. It is getting more faint by the day. I looked saturday and saw it with naked eyes but with binoculars it was a bit more clear.

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« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2020, 11:29:34 AM »
I'm sure that JJA will be able to relate to my frustrations about satellites when it comes to looking out for the Perseids in August.  They are frigging everywhere! Especially along the Milky Way corridor from Aquila, through Cygnus and onwards towards Cassiopeia and Perseus itself. 

When you are actively looking for anything that moves your eyes zero in on to all the satellites as they pass by.  Some are bright, some are dim while others dim and brighten as they go.  You even see some disappear into the Earths shadow from time to time.  That confuses people.. when satellites just disappear!  That fires up those with a vivid imagination and they see something they cannot explain.  That is clearly the origin of many a UFO report.  Many people obviously spend hardly any time looking up in the sky.  I was waiting to go into a theatre show once.  Queuing up outside I saw the ISS pass overhead.  I think of all the people in the queue I was the only one that was even aware that it was there!  A lovely bright moving 'star' passing overhead.
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« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2020, 01:08:22 PM »
I'm sure that JJA will be able to relate to my frustrations about satellites when it comes to looking out for the Perseids in August.  They are frigging everywhere! Especially along the Milky Way corridor from Aquila, through Cygnus and onwards towards Cassiopeia and Perseus itself. 

When you are actively looking for anything that moves your eyes zero in on to all the satellites as they pass by.  Some are bright, some are dim while others dim and brighten as they go.  You even see some disappear into the Earths shadow from time to time.  That confuses people.. when satellites just disappear!  That fires up those with a vivid imagination and they see something they cannot explain.  That is clearly the origin of many a UFO report.  Many people obviously spend hardly any time looking up in the sky.  I was waiting to go into a theatre show once.  Queuing up outside I saw the ISS pass overhead.  I think of all the people in the queue I was the only one that was even aware that it was there!  A lovely bright moving 'star' passing overhead.

When I was looking to watch the comet last saturday night along with my sister, she mentioned that we would also have a flyover of the ISS. So, we had the ISS fly over from southwest to northeast, at an angle of over 70 degrees so we saw it for a few minutes. And we saw a satellite moving over as well. Have seen the ISS fly over a dozen times before but it feels like a bonus every time I look at the sky when it happens. Even though I know when it happens beforehand.

I think the ISS is the most bright object one can watch at night except for the moon.

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« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2020, 01:46:03 PM »

Change your DNS to a non Islam government controlled one.

Anyways there was a satellite that had a really good optic. The coolant ran out so now the optic is only ok but it’s good enough to find objects in the IR as in objects that aren’t reflecting light.

I didn't read after read satellite...


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« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2020, 04:22:22 PM »
Has anyone ever seen this comet with the naked eye?

Yes, I have. This was from a moderately dark location. You probably won't be able to see it from a city - it's too dim for that.

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I think it is necessary to watch in the video to have an idea about its speed and direction.

There are several websites and apps that provide maps showing where it will be at specific dates. You don't need a video to be able to find it. You do need to recognize some constellations and asterisms to have much hope of finding it, however, although this one is bright enough to be easily spotted from a dark location.

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More importantly, when was this comet discovered?

The object was discovered by a team using the WISE space telescope under the NEOWISE program on March 27, 2020.[1] It was classified as a comet on March 31 and named after NEOWISE on April 1.[3] It has the systematic designation C/2020 F3, indicating a non-periodic comet which was the third discovered in the second half of March 2020.

Its designation gives a general idea of when it was first cataloged, which is typically soon after it is discovered and verified by independent observation. Why is this particularly important?

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If it was, why didn't NASA explain it years ago? Why are such things explained after observing all the time?

Because nobody knew it existed before it was first noticed in the WISE data. Only after something is discovered can it be studied and characterized. This comet was quite dim when it was first recognized. Because it has brightened enough to see in small telescopes and binoculars, not to mention naked eye, it has been observed more than most comets.

Why does this seem baffling to you?

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Or do your "satellites magically standing in space" observe space?

What?

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Who and why has named it Neowise?

As already discussed, Comet NEOWISE gets its name from NASA's Near-Earth Object Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (NEOWISE), a space-based infrared telescope dedicated to looking out for potentially hazardous asteroids and comets.

From the late 20th century onwards, many comets have been discovered by large teams of astronomers, so may be named for the collaboration or instrument they used. For example, 160P/LINEAR was discovered by the Lincoln Near-Earth Asteroid Research (LINEAR) team. Comet IRAS–Araki–Alcock was discovered independently by a team using the Infrared Astronomy Satellite (IRAS) and the amateur astronomers Genichi Araki and George Alcock.

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Thanks in advance.

You can look this stuff up yourself, you know.
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Re: Neowise
« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2020, 11:13:54 PM »
You really don't get out much do you? Just for a day or two, if your government lets you, take a trip to a dark sky area and look up an hour or two after sunset, there are shitloads, no need for anything other than your eyes.
Nope. They are not exist. If you claim opposite, prove it. I will wait your videos including a satellite. Thanks in advance.  ^-^
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« Reply #51 on: July 20, 2020, 11:15:25 PM »
I have seen it with the naked eye. And the reason he asks for video is a troll question. With a video you cannot get the exposure time required to film it clearly and he knows it.

Wise, please just take my advice to look from the mountains or whatever you have close. Top of a high building would also work I guess. It is getting more faint by the day. I looked saturday and saw it with naked eyes but with binoculars it was a bit more clear.
Put a video camera behing your binoculars and publish it. How easy.  ^-^
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« Reply #52 on: July 20, 2020, 11:17:57 PM »
No. I look with the naked eye and I can't see anything. Maybe it's because I couldn't see it magically whats imaginary. Red pill may help me if this would be matrix movie.

That’s why it’s called Neo-Wise.

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I struggled to see it on Sunday night (the first night worth trying where I am in UK).  Even though the sky above appeared quite clear, looking towards the horizon was a bit hazy with few stars visible around the comets altitude.  Not helped by local light pollution.

I could just make out a smudge in the sky with “naked” eye (with my glasses), and only because I knew exactly where it was supposed to be.  It should have been clear with binoculars though.

It’s certainly appeared fainter than the brighter stars of Ursa Major (which it’s right next to) and don’t expect to see anything as clear as the long exposure photos people post. 

Assuming you’re serious about trying to see it that is.

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« Reply #53 on: July 20, 2020, 11:53:23 PM »
No. I look with the naked eye and I can't see anything. Maybe it's because I couldn't see it magically whats imaginary. Red pill may help me if this would be matrix movie.

That’s why it’s called Neo-Wise.
I am talking about satellites. You are either unconsciously or delibarely confusing two issue. I have no claim about Neowise. I question only whether it exists and why it was claimed discovered on 27 March, although it was discovered after being observed in July.
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« Reply #54 on: July 21, 2020, 12:09:50 AM »
Fun story . . .

So, many years ago a Shuttle mission ran an experiment where they reeled out 10 miles of cable.
It snapped and went sailing.

It was coming overhead on some schedule and my buddy and I went to the pier with binoculars.


It was by buddy's turn to scan the sky with the optics.
He's scanning for the event.



"Hey, Chuck, don't need the binocs".



This string was as long as an index finger at arms length and brighter than the moon.






whatever . . . carry on    ;)



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« Reply #55 on: July 21, 2020, 12:14:00 AM »
Is it neo or wise, or why together? What is the subliminal message of this choice? On the one hand, NASA and fanciers are doing everything to make me paranoid, but I am not, on the other hand they are telling me become a paranoid. No, I am not. Can not you find another name that means nothing? Why so serious?

For example, why is it not Neorab?
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« Reply #56 on: July 21, 2020, 12:14:40 AM »

 Can not you find another name that means nothing?

I called you a name once.
You did not like it.   ;D

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« Reply #57 on: July 21, 2020, 12:19:29 AM »
It was meaning masonic something. I mean something like Neorab that means nothing.
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« Reply #58 on: July 21, 2020, 12:22:22 AM »
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I question only whether it exists and why it was claimed discovered on 27 March

Two very simple questions to answer. 

1. Yes it most definitely does exist.  There are a lot of people now who can confirm that.  Just because you haven't seen it for yourself is not a reason to doubt its existence.
2. It was identified by the NEOWISE Near Earth Object survey satellite on March 27th.

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« Reply #59 on: July 21, 2020, 12:23:19 AM »
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I question only whether it exists and why it was claimed discovered on 27 March

Two very simple questions to answer. 

1. Yes it most definitely does exist.  There are a lot of people now who can confirm that.
2. It was identified by the NEOWISE Near Earth Object survey satellite on March 27th.
Nope. NEOWISE Near Earth Object survey satellite is a name of a project, not a comet. Giving it same name only aims to confuse people between these two same name and claim its existance at March 27th. It's just like similarity between Samuel Shenton and Daniel Shenton. They aren't relative, but it comes to mind.
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