Vehicle Running Without Motor, Nasa High Technology

Pack it up rab. I think the argument is concluded here. Even a pissy little RC car has a motor in it yet somehow expected to believe a hulking car sized rover doesn't need anything to drive the wheels 

It must be so confusing for Shifter and Wise to live in a world where everything is a mystery.  I can't even begin to understand the mentality of not being able to understand how wheels and motors work leading to deciding that the Mars rover must be fake.

I mean, motors and wheels... together?  That's crazy talk! 

Pack it up rab. I think the argument is concluded here. Even a pissy little RC car has a motor in it yet somehow expected to believe a hulking car sized rover doesn't need anything to drive the wheels 

You and Wise can believe what you like but the Mars rover has a motor driving each  wheel.

It's not  my problem if neither you nor Wise have a trace of common sense.

Quote from: Shifter on July 22, 2020, 03:10:54 AM

Pack it up rab. I think the argument is concluded here. Even a pissy little RC car has a motor in it yet somehow expected to believe a hulking car sized rover doesn't need anything to drive the wheels 

You and Wise can believe what you like

Ok. Didn't think we needed your permission but thank you anyway rab 

Quote from: rabinoz on July 22, 2020, 10:49:33 AM

Quote from: Shifter on July 22, 2020, 03:10:54 AM

Pack it up rab. I think the argument is concluded here. Even a pissy little RC car has a motor in it yet somehow expected to believe a hulking car sized rover doesn't need anything to drive the wheels 

You and Wise can believe what you like

Ok. Didn't think we needed your permission but thank you anyway rab 

Of course you don't need anyone's permission to believe what you like.  However, a cogent explanation of your objections would be very helpful if you want to have an adult conversation on the topic at hand.

Pack it up rab. I think the argument is concluded here. Even a pissy little RC car has a motor in it yet somehow expected to believe a hulking car sized rover doesn't need anything to drive the wheels 

You seem confused.  Wise is the only one who apparently excepts you to believe there are no motors driving the wheels on the rovers.

Everyone else is saying that of course there are bloody motors.

Quote from: rabinoz on July 22, 2020, 10:49:33 AM

Quote from: Shifter on July 22, 2020, 03:10:54 AM

Pack it up rab. I think the argument is concluded here. Even a pissy little RC car has a motor in it yet somehow expected to believe a hulking car sized rover doesn't need anything to drive the wheels 

You and Wise can believe what you like

Ok. Didn't think we needed your permission but thank you anyway rab 

OK, I'll put it this way: I couldn't care less if you think stupidity like the Mars rover has no traction motors.

Signed, Rabinoz, at present in private room 14 Greenslopes Private Hospital and NOT looking forward to coming biopsies!

Quote from: Shifter on July 22, 2020, 10:54:34 AM

Quote from: rabinoz on July 22, 2020, 10:49:33 AM

Quote from: Shifter on July 22, 2020, 03:10:54 AM

Pack it up rab. I think the argument is concluded here. Even a pissy little RC car has a motor in it yet somehow expected to believe a hulking car sized rover doesn't need anything to drive the wheels 

You and Wise can believe what you like

Ok. Didn't think we needed your permission but thank you anyway rab 

OK, I'll put it this way: I couldn't care less if you think stupidity like the Mars rover has no traction motors.

Signed, Rabinoz, at present in private room 14 Greenslopes Private Hospital and NOT looking forward to coming biopsies!

Damn, get well soon and hope to get a good result!

Quote from: rabinoz on July 22, 2020, 01:09:36 PM

Signed, Rabinoz, at present in private room 14 Greenslopes Private Hospital and NOT looking forward to coming biopsies!

Damn, get well soon and hope to get a good result!

The good news: The cardiologist says my heart's in pretty good shape.
The not so good news: The specialist called in yesterday was an oncologist - hence this biopsy.

This is the high content Shifter is talking about apparently.  Claiming the Mars rover doesn't have a 'motor' or something.  I'd love to know what Shifter thinks makes the wheels move if not an electric motor?  I even posted a video of the new rover testing it's wheels.  They sure look like they move to me. 

From previous discussions I'm pretty sure he understands what an electric motor is.  Pretty sure.

. . . at present in private room 14 Greenslopes Private Hospital

I had to spend a week in a double room with an AIDS infected junkie.   

Quote from: Shifter on July 22, 2020, 03:10:54 AM

Pack it up rab. I think the argument is concluded here. Even a pissy little RC car has a motor in it yet somehow expected to believe a hulking car sized rover doesn't need anything to drive the wheels 

You and Wise can believe what you like but the Mars rover has a motor driving each  wheel.
It's not  my problem if neither you nor Wise have a trace of common sense.

So far I have not seen anything proving that there is an engine in the wheel. There is no such application in the world, nor a technical knowledge of how Mars rover can solve the problems that will arise in this regard. Electricity does not magically rotate a wheel. This can only be the product of NASA imagination. You cannot force us to accept such nonsense.

It's your problem that you "have to" defend every kind of NASA lies. It is clearly you "have to" do that, otherwise you are seemingly having at least a minimum level common sense. Only necessity may compel you to defend such a nonsense thing.

Quote from: rabinoz on July 22, 2020, 10:49:33 AM

Quote from: Shifter on July 22, 2020, 03:10:54 AM

Pack it up rab. I think the argument is concluded here. Even a pissy little RC car has a motor in it yet somehow expected to believe a hulking car sized rover doesn't need anything to drive the wheels 

You and Wise can believe what you like but the Mars rover has a motor driving each  wheel.
It's not  my problem if neither you nor Wise have a trace of common sense.

So far I have not seen anything proving that there is an engine in the wheel. There is no such application in the world, nor a technical knowledge of how Mars rover can solve the problems that will arise in this regard. Electricity does not magically rotate a wheel. This can only be the product of NASA imagination. You cannot force us to accept such nonsense.

It's your problem that you "have to" defend every kind of NASA lies. It is clearly you "have to" do that, otherwise you are seemingly having at least a minimum level common sense. Only necessity may compel you to defend such a nonsense thing.

I have nothing to defend!

Of course the Mars Rover has motors! Only one ignorant in engineering matters, like YOU, would claim otherwise!

You don't need motors because other planets are all down hill.

Quote from: rabinoz on July 22, 2020, 10:49:33 AM

Quote from: Shifter on July 22, 2020, 03:10:54 AM

Pack it up rab. I think the argument is concluded here. Even a pissy little RC car has a motor in it yet somehow expected to believe a hulking car sized rover doesn't need anything to drive the wheels 

You and Wise can believe what you like but the Mars rover has a motor driving each  wheel.
It's not  my problem if neither you nor Wise have a trace of common sense.

So far I have not seen anything proving that there is an engine in the wheel. There is no such application in the world, nor a technical knowledge of how Mars rover can solve the problems that will arise in this regard. Electricity does not magically rotate a wheel. This can only be the product of NASA imagination. You cannot force us to accept such nonsense.

It's your problem that you "have to" defend every kind of NASA lies. It is clearly you "have to" do that, otherwise you are seemingly having at least a minimum level common sense. Only necessity may compel you to defend such a nonsense thing.

So you have PROOF that there are no such things as in-wheel motors?

I'm guessing that you are so sure that humans are too stupid to make one because YOU are too dumb to understand how such a thing is possible.

Your proof is just your inability to understand how things work.

I can disprove your "there is no such application in the world" easily enough.

Here.  Go to Amazon and buy one yourself, or maybe Shifter can get you one as he likes you and he can see for himself how they work too.  In-wheel motors have been around for a hundred years. It's not rocket science.

https://www.amazon.com/AW-Electric-Bicycle-Powerful-Conversion/dp/B00YBWA5VC

Quote from: rabinoz on July 22, 2020, 01:09:36 PM

. . . at present in private room 14 Greenslopes Private Hospital

I had to spend a week in a double room with an AIDS infected junkie.   

I bet they were glad when they finally got away from you.

Quote from: rabinoz on July 22, 2020, 10:49:33 AM

Quote from: Shifter on July 22, 2020, 03:10:54 AM

Pack it up rab. I think the argument is concluded here. Even a pissy little RC car has a motor in it yet somehow expected to believe a hulking car sized rover doesn't need anything to drive the wheels 

You and Wise can believe what you like but the Mars rover has a motor driving each  wheel.
It's not  my problem if neither you nor Wise have a trace of common sense.

So far I have not seen anything proving that there is an engine in the wheel.

That's because they don't use engines.  They use electric rotary actuators to drive the wheels.

There is no such application in the world, nor a technical knowledge of how Mars rover can solve the problems that will arise in this regard.

You don't have any industrial mechanical experience, so you?  Rotary actuators are quite common in industry.
https://www.directindustry.com/industrial-manufacturer/rotary-actuator-71350.html

Electricity does not magically rotate a wheel. This can only be the product of NASA imagination.

Unless you use that electricity to run a motor attached to a gearbox.

You cannot force us to accept such nonsense.

Well, you know what they say about leading a horse to water.

It's your problem that you "have to" defend every kind of NASA lies. It is clearly you "have to" do that, otherwise you are seemingly having at least a minimum level common sense. Only necessity may compel you to defend such a nonsense thing.

Or, maybe it only seems like nonsense to you because of your limited experiences with industrial mechanical solutions.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 22, 2020, 06:23:58 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on July 22, 2020, 01:09:36 PM

. . . at present in private room 14 Greenslopes Private Hospital

I had to spend a week in a double room with an AIDS infected junkie.   

I bet they were glad when they finally got away from you.

     

Quote from: hoppy on July 23, 2020, 05:08:16 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 22, 2020, 06:23:58 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on July 22, 2020, 01:09:36 PM

. . . at present in private room 14 Greenslopes Private Hospital

I had to spend a week in a double room with an AIDS infected junkie.   

I bet they were glad when they finally got away from you.

     

Quote from: wise on July 23, 2020, 01:02:55 AM

Quote from: rabinoz on July 22, 2020, 10:49:33 AM

Quote from: Shifter on July 22, 2020, 03:10:54 AM

Pack it up rab. I think the argument is concluded here. Even a pissy little RC car has a motor in it yet somehow expected to believe a hulking car sized rover doesn't need anything to drive the wheels 

You and Wise can believe what you like but the Mars rover has a motor driving each  wheel.
It's not  my problem if neither you nor Wise have a trace of common sense.

So far I have not seen anything proving that there is an engine in the wheel. There is no such application in the world, nor a technical knowledge of how Mars rover can solve the problems that will arise in this regard. Electricity does not magically rotate a wheel. This can only be the product of NASA imagination. You cannot force us to accept such nonsense.

It's your problem that you "have to" defend every kind of NASA lies. It is clearly you "have to" do that, otherwise you are seemingly having at least a minimum level common sense. Only necessity may compel you to defend such a nonsense thing.

I have nothing to defend!

Of course the Mars Rover has motors! Only one ignorant in engineering matters, like YOU, would claim otherwise!

Your claim it has motors does not make it magically has motors. It technically has not, but you are free to believe otherwise. I can't intervene your dreaming.

That's because they don't use engines.  They use electric rotary actuators to drive the wheels.

This claim contradicts the theory of most prominent globularist here:

Of course the Mars Rover has motors!

Here we see two veteran globalists who make exactly the opposite statements. Nevertheless, they do not argue, although one says that there is a motor, while the other says that it is not a motor, 180 degrees opposite each other directly say the opposite. both are quoting me.

First, discuss whether there is an engine in the wheels, agree among you. Then talk me as you one voice! Until then, it is thought both of yourwords have no value and that you are programmed to quote only me.

You both are programmed to follow me. I am the reason of your living. You are giving me that value and then asking me about my behaves.

Quote from: markjo on July 23, 2020, 06:35:13 AM

That's because they don't use engines.  They use electric rotary actuators to drive the wheels.

This claim contradicts the theory of most prominent globularist here:

Quote from: rabinoz on July 23, 2020, 03:20:28 AM

Of course the Mars Rover has motors!

Here we see two veteran globalists who make exactly the opposite statements. Nevertheless, they do not argue, although one says that there is a motor, while the other says that it is not a motor, 180 degrees opposite each other directly say the opposite. both are quoting me.

First, discuss whether there is an engine in the wheels, agree among you. Then talk me as you one voice! Until then, it is thought both of yourwords have no value and that you are programmed to quote only me.

You both are programmed to follow me. I am the reason of your living. You are giving me that value and then asking me about my behaves.

Seriously? An electric rotary actuator is a motor. You need to think through these things a little bit more.

"Rotary actuator: The motion produced by an actuator may be either continuous rotation, as for an electric motor, or movement to a fixed angular position as for servomotors and stepper motors. A further form, the torque motor, does not necessarily produce any rotation but merely generates a precise torque which then either causes rotation, or is balanced by some opposing torque."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_actuator

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Quote from: markjo on July 23, 2020, 06:35:13 AM

That's because they don't use engines.  They use electric rotary actuators to drive the wheels.

This claim contradicts the theory of most prominent globularist here:

Quote from: rabinoz on July 23, 2020, 03:20:28 AM

Of course the Mars Rover has motors!

Here we see two veteran globalists who make exactly the opposite statements. Nevertheless, they do not argue, although one says that there is a motor, while the other says that it is not a motor, 180 degrees opposite each other directly say the opposite. both are quoting me.

He's pointing out that electric motors aren't referred to as "engines".

Try Turkish.  He may understand you better.  Google translate is shit sometimes.

Quote from: markjo on July 23, 2020, 06:35:13 AM

That's because they don't use engines.  They use electric rotary actuators to drive the wheels.

This claim contradicts the theory of most prominent globularist here:

Quote from: rabinoz on July 23, 2020, 03:20:28 AM

Of course the Mars Rover has motors!

Here we see two veteran globalists who make exactly the opposite statements. Nevertheless, they do not argue, although one says that there is a motor, while the other says that it is not a motor, 180 degrees opposite each other directly say the opposite. both are quoting me.

First, discuss whether there is an engine in the wheels, agree among you. Then talk me as you one voice! Until then, it is thought both of yourwords have no value and that you are programmed to quote only me.

You both are programmed to follow me. I am the reason of your living. You are giving me that value and then asking me about my behaves.

No, they are not contradicting each other, they are both correct and saying the same thing.

Wise.

You are getting confused by the words "engine" and "motor".

I can't really blame you here, English can be a confusing mess.

But an engine and an electric motor are not the same thing.  You keep saying "engine" when you mean "motor".

Read this...

http://bestride.com/news/entertainment/grammar-nerd-should-you-call-it-a-motor-or-an-engine

Your claim it has motors does not make it magically has motors. It technically has not, but you are free to believe otherwise. I can't intervene your dreaming.

You saying it "technically has not" does not magically make it true.

I own a car with electric motors. I can assure you they are quite real. I've build model robots with electric wheels. They do work.

Seriously, I can't believe we are arguing about if it's possible to put electric motors on an electric vehicle. 

So far, no physical or theoretical study proving that there are electric motors in the wheels of the Mars vehicle has been revealed, other than blabbing.

You are crowded and writing from me with metion all the time, making me bored to answer all of you individually will not magically justify you.

You are nothing more than a group of angry globalist programs that write worthless things that are programmed to quote only me without producing realistic arguments. Just like the viruses in a computer.

So far, no physical or theoretical study proving that there are electric motors in the wheels of the Mars vehicle has been revealed, other than blabbing.

You are crowded and writing from me with metion all the time, making me bored to answer all of you individually will not magically justify you.

You are nothing more than a group of angry globalist programs that write worthless things that are programmed to quote only me without producing realistic arguments. Just like the viruses in a computer.

Good story. I've given you plenty of evidence that they exist.

You on the other hand, only have your own denials that they do not. You literally have zero evidence.

And you claiming we are robots just makes you look crazy.

So far, no physical or theoretical study proving that there are electric motors in the wheels of the Mars vehicle has been revealed, other than blabbing.

You are crowded and writing from me with metion all the time, making me bored to answer all of you individually will not magically justify you.

You are nothing more than a group of angry globalist programs that write worthless things that are programmed to quote only me without producing realistic arguments. Just like the viruses in a computer.

We have showed you that in-wheel motors have existed for over 100 years.  We have showed you current prototype cars that use in-wheel motors.  We have showed you how you can build your own in-wheel model motorised lego model.  We have showed you that you can buy wheel motors for bikes on Amazon.  We have showed you videos of the Mars buggy using in-wheel motors to rotate it's wheels.

All you have done is incoherently lash out and then stick your head in the sand and deny everything as you're incapable of admitting you're wrong.

Quote from: wise on July 28, 2020, 04:05:06 AM

So far, no physical or theoretical study proving that there are electric motors in the wheels of the Mars vehicle has been revealed, other than blabbing.

You are crowded and writing from me with metion all the time, making me bored to answer all of you individually will not magically justify you.

You are nothing more than a group of angry globalist programs that write worthless things that are programmed to quote only me without producing realistic arguments. Just like the viruses in a computer.

Good story. I've given you plenty of evidence that they exist.

You on the other hand, only have your own denials that they do not. You literally have zero evidence.

And you claiming we are robots just makes you look crazy.

Nope. You have gave nothing but supposedly claims that practically null and does not deserve a value.

You the who have zero evidence. You are robots because you are talking something as if if done that actually not done, and you are talking about something as if not done actually done. You are doing it with some baseless claiming and waiting me accept it because you want it so. Can it be something other than you are nothing but robots? On the other hand you are not responding each other even you have contradicted, oppositely you deny the contradictions between yourselves. Because you have programmed so!