Moderation Suggestions

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Moderation Suggestions
« on: June 01, 2020, 08:20:10 AM »
Moderator for the TFES have the burdensome job of making sure all members, be they FE proponents or RE adherents, play by the rules so that the best possible discussion takes place for each part of the forum.  What happens with regular frequency can only be viewed as a partial success when it comes to enabling the best possible discussion.

My experiences on the web and in life have pointed to clear expectations being the best way to ensure members do their part.  What I have found in my time on this forum, is that many of the subforums do not have clearly defined rules, nor does the website in general have a clearly laid out TOS (terms of service).  Often, moderators work on a very loose and ambiguous set of guidelines, which likely causes just as much frustration for them as it does the members trying to post original content or respond to other members. 

What I suggest is that each subforum have a clearly defined set of rules (for those that don't, I do realize that some already have fairly clear expectations) along with a general set of rules for the entire forum.  These could, for example, include something like:

For Flat Earth Q&A -
1. No debate oriented questions, or questions worded that invite debate
2. No comments aimed at inciting debate, or questioning the validity of an answer given in response to a question about FE

Subforum rules should tie into the general forum rules of decorum regarding not being overtly rude, avoiding ad hominem tactics, staying on topic, and only digressing if the OP agrees it would contribute to the overall discussion.

A general warning should also be posted here informing members that should they violate those subforum rules, comments or posts may be moved or deleted.  Further, PM'ing members for first time offenses along with naming what rule(s) were violated, along with what action was taken could help prevent future missteps.

Additionally, providing a stickied comment at or near the top of each subforum with a list of hyperlinked, most popular topics titled "READ ME FIRST BEFORE POSTING" would help a bunch in reducing duplicate posts. 

These are, of course, suggestions.  Hope you all are doing well and be well. 
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Re: Moderation Suggestions
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2020, 09:07:21 AM »
I'll have to check but I believe each subforum has a stickied thread stating the rules for that thread.  Maybe it's unclear though.

Very upper fora.  Strict.  Business only.
Upper fora.  Rigid, fe focus.  And nobody post in q&a.  God help you if you post in q&a!
Middle fora.  Somewhat loose.
Lower fora.  No porn or nazis or nazi porn stars.

I personally like the idea of a public ban/warning log.

Is this in regard to a specific incident?
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Re: Moderation Suggestions
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2020, 09:12:03 AM »
I think most of what you are describing is pretty well laid out in the forums rules thread in Announcements. The problem is, most offenders either havenít read them and/or simply donít care. Not only are the general rules for the entire board laid out, but descriptions of what should and should not be discussed in the different boards is also presented. It very clearly states that Q&A is not for debating. Yet people do anyway, and then get upset or find themselves wondering why their post was moved to the AR Garbage Dump (or split off into Debate, as will happen sometimes).

The title of that thread is ďThe Forum Rules - Read Before Posting!Ē Do you think it should be copied and stickied into every board? I personally donít think itís very hard to find. But perhaps linking directly to it in the Welcome email after someone signs up is a good idea so they donít overlook it.

Re: Moderation Suggestions
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2020, 12:45:08 PM »
Is this in regard to a specific incident?

No, just general suggestions and recommendations.

I think most of what you are describing is pretty well laid out in the forums rules thread in Announcements.

It is, but isn't consistent.  For example, the FE General subforum doesn't really have any guidelines for posting.  It could be that maybe some spring cleaning is in order (that post is more than 10 years old), actually, that's probably the case.

The problem is, most offenders either havenít read them and/or simply donít care. Not only are the general rules for the entire board laid out, but descriptions of what should and should not be discussed in the different boards is also presented. It very clearly states that Q&A is not for debating. Yet people do anyway, and then get upset or find themselves wondering why their post was moved to the AR Garbage Dump (or split off into Debate, as will happen sometimes).

And you guys do a pretty good job when it comes to that.  It may be beneficial to include in the post that's created when you move/delete/merge a thread to state which rule invoked the moderator action.  I'm referring to the purple highlighted, italicized post.

The title of that thread is ďThe Forum Rules - Read Before Posting!Ē Do you think it should be copied and stickied into every board? I personally donít think itís very hard to find. But perhaps linking directly to it in the Welcome email after someone signs up is a good idea so they donít overlook it.

Yes!  I think both or either would be a great idea. 

EDIT: Not purple.  More like a bluish grey?
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