NASA EPIC LIES

Kiefer is cool! And even though I despise monarchy it is good to be the king!

I am delighted by these latest events in this thread!

I cannot report any such activity. Someone super drunk once asked if I play guitar for a local band I did not know. Far cry from 24 and king of England.

Quote from: JackBlack on June 17, 2020, 05:37:54 AM

Quote from: cikljamas on June 17, 2020, 04:42:22 AM

THAT'S A MOUSE

Prove it.
There is no justification for that claim at all.

You need more evidence of NASA's "credibility?"
Here we go :


NASA DESTROYED AGAIN (Small Mammal (rodent) On Mars) :

NASA DESTROYED AGAIN (Greenland portrayed as Mars) :

Quote from: JackBlack on June 17, 2020, 05:37:54 AM

Quote from: cikljamas on June 17, 2020, 04:42:22 AM

THAT'S A MOUSE

Prove it.
There is no justification for that claim at all.

You need more evidence of NASA's "credibility?"
<< It's all been covered before - get lost! >>

Cikljamas, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to ask the moderators if we can have a vote to change your thread title to, "NASA Epic Success In Outer Space."

Posting debunked evidence will not suddenly make it real.

Quote from: sokarul on June 18, 2020, 06:05:13 AM

Posting debunked evidence will not suddenly make it real.

See this :

Quote from: cikljamas on June 18, 2020, 06:09:18 AM

Quote from: sokarul on June 18, 2020, 06:05:13 AM

Posting debunked evidence will not suddenly make it real.

See this :

So what? Even if a rock on Mars looks like a Collared Lemming does not mean that it is a Collared Lemming.

Quote from: rabinoz on June 18, 2020, 06:24:56 AM

Quote from: cikljamas on June 18, 2020, 06:09:18 AM

Quote from: sokarul on June 18, 2020, 06:05:13 AM

Posting debunked evidence will not suddenly make it real.

See this :

So what? Even if a rock on Mars looks like a Collared Lemming does not mean that it is a Collared Lemming.

It's not just a collared lemming, the bones and skeletons were "found" on "Mars" too :

Where are the arctic foxes, ermines, Snowy Owls, jaegers, Gyrfalcons, wolves, and caribou?

Quote from: Stash on June 18, 2020, 09:34:09 AM

Where are the arctic foxes, ermines, Snowy Owls, jaegers, Gyrfalcons, wolves, and caribou?

They flew to Mars, didn't you know?
As for you second question : we are all friends :

A small reminder :

You can even see animals in clouds.

Quote from: JackBlack on June 18, 2020, 02:57:29 PM

You can even see animals in clouds.

I know!

My god. Look. Clouds are actually ducks! We have been lied to this whole time! The sky is fake, clouds aren't real, rain is all duck tears.

How is what I just said any more sensible than claiming squirrels are on Mars or mice in rockets?

Quote from: cikljamas on June 18, 2020, 10:59:35 AM

Quote from: Stash on June 18, 2020, 09:34:09 AM

Where are the arctic foxes, ermines, Snowy Owls, jaegers, Gyrfalcons, wolves, and caribou?

They flew to Mars, didn't you know?
As for you second question : we are all friends :

I’d be surprised if you are still friends as this is an old video and perhaps from before you renounced flat earth and became a globe geocentrist.

A couple of ironic things about the video regarding Skylab and gyroscopes that you made and Bob from globe busters highlights. First, Bob already blew up the “Earth doesn’t rotate” thing with the ‘Behind the Curve’ bit. Downright embarrassing for him, I’m sure.



Secondly, Bob mentions that the Skylab astronaut is obviously in a zero G plane, not in space and then proceeds to highlight a minimum 53 second long clip of the astronaut. Zero G planes like the Vomit Comet max out at best around 30-40 seconds of zero G.

First Bob proves the earth rotates then you and Bob prove astronauts were aboard Skylab in space all in one post. Well done. Keep up the good work.

Quote from: Stash on June 18, 2020, 02:31:39 PM

Quote from: cikljamas on June 18, 2020, 10:59:35 AM

Quote from: Stash on June 18, 2020, 09:34:09 AM

Where are the arctic foxes, ermines, Snowy Owls, jaegers, Gyrfalcons, wolves, and caribou?

They flew to Mars, didn't you know?
As for you second question : we are all friends :

I’d be surprised if you are still friends as this is an old video and perhaps from before you renounced flat earth and became a globe geocentrist.

A couple of ironic things about the video regarding Skylab and gyroscopes that you made and Bob from globe busters highlights. First, Bob already blew up the “Earth doesn’t rotate” thing with the ‘Behind the Curve’ bit. Downright embarrassing for him, I’m sure.



Secondly, Bob mentions that the Skylab astronaut is obviously in a zero G plane, not in space and then proceeds to highlight a minimum 53 second long clip of the astronaut. Zero G planes like the Vomit Comet max out at best around 30-40 seconds of zero G.

First Bob proves the earth rotates then you and Bob prove astronauts were aboard Skylab in space all in one post. Well done. Keep up the good work.

This is the best answer to your lies :

History of Sperry Marine

Dr. H. Anschutz of Germany and Elmer Sperry both built on the properties of the gyroscope; stability and precession. A gyroscope will always point to a fixed point in space if left undisturbed. If force is exerted upon it, it will react at right angles to the force applied. This characteristic of a gyro combined with other elements of precession, pendulocity and damping will allow the gyro to settle toward true north. In 1908 Dr. Anschutz patented the first north seeking gyrocompass with the United Kingdom's Patent Office (Patent Number 10382/08). That same year, Elmer Sperry invented and introduced the first ballistic gyrocompass, which included vertical damping (his device was subsequently patented with the British in 1911 - Patent Number 15669/11). Both of these first devices were of the single pendulum type. Unit 100 and the First World War In 1911 the first Sperry gyro (Unit Number 100 shown at left) was installed aboard the Old Dominion Line PRINCESS ANNE for a trial run from New York to Hampton Roads, Virginia. Upon completing this trial the unit was brought back to New York and installed aboard the U.S.S. DELAWARE. Trials aboard the DELAWARE were launched starting on August 18, 1911. From this trial aboard the DELAWARE an order for four systems soon arrived from the U.S. Navy and Sperry Gyroscope was a reality. The first serially produced unit, Serial Number 101, was installed aboard the U.S.S. UTAH on November 13, 1911.

Gyrotheodolite

A Wild GAK gyroscope mounted on a Wild T-16 theodolite.

History In 1852, the French physicist Léon Foucault discovered that a gyro with two degrees of freedom points north. This principle was adapted by Max Schuler in 1921 to build the first surveying gyro. In 1949, the gyro-theodolite – at that time called a "meridian pointer" or "meridian indicator"[2] – was first used by the Clausthal Mining Academy underground. Several years later it was improved with the addition of autocollimation telescopes. In 1960, the Fennel Kassel company produced the first of the KT1 series of gyro-theodolites.[3] Fennel Kassel and others later produced gyro attachments that can be mounted on normal theodolites. Operation A gyroscope is mounted in a sphere, lined with Mu-metal to reduce magnetic influence, connected by a spindle to the vertical axis of the theodolite. The battery-powered gyro wheel is rotated at 20,000 rpm or more, until it acts as a north-seeking gyroscope.[2] A separate optical system within the attachment permits the operator to rotate the theodolite and thereby bring a zero mark on the attachment into coincidence with the gyroscope spin axis. By tracking the spin axis as it oscillates about the meridian, a record of the azimuth of a series of the extreme stationary points of that oscillation may be determined by reading the theodolite azimuth circle. A midpoint can later be computed from these records that represents a refined estimate of the meridian. Careful setup and repeated observations can give an estimate that is within about 10 arc seconds of the true meridian.[5] This estimate of the meridian contains errors due to the zero torque of the suspension not being aligned precisely with the true meridian and to measurement errors of the slightly damped extremes of oscillation. These errors can be moderated by refining the initial estimate of the meridian to within a few arc minutes and correctly aligning the zero torque of the suspension.[6] When the spinner is released from restraint with its axis of rotation aligned close to the meridian, the gyroscopic reaction of spin and Earth’s rotation results in precession of the spin axis in the direction of alignment with the plane of the meridian. This is because the daily rotation of the Earth is in effect continuously tilting the east-west axis of the station. The spinner axis then accelerates towards and overshoots the meridian, it then slows to a halt at an extreme point before similarly swinging back towards the initial point of release. This oscillation in azimuth of the spinner axis about the meridian repeats with a period of a few minutes. In practice the amplitude of oscillation will only gradually reduce as energy is lost due to the minimal damping present.[4] Gyro-theodolites employ an undamped oscillating system because a determination can be obtained in less than about 20 minutes, while the asymptotic settling of a damped gyro-compass would take many times that before any reasonable determination of meridian could possibly be made.

Quote from: cikljamas on June 19, 2020, 04:42:15 AM

This is the best answer to your lies :

And what does that prove when marine gyro compasses have been used on ships for well over a century?

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History of Sperry Marine

Dr. H. Anschutz of Germany and Elmer Sperry both built on the properties of the gyroscope; stability and precession. A gyroscope will always point to a fixed point in space if left undisturbed. If force (PRODUCED BY EARTH'S ROTATION) is exerted upon it, it will react at right angles to the force applied. HOWEVER, AS ANYONE CAN SEE IN THE VIDEO ABOVE ROB DURHAM'S SUPER-GYRO DOESN'T REACT AT ALL!!! SO IT IS PROVEN (ONCE AGAIN) THAT THE APPARENT DRIFT PHENOMENA DOESN'T EXIST IN REALITY (DESPITE HELIOCENTRIC FRAUDULENT CLAIMS). FOUCAULT IS DEBUNKED ONCE AGAIN, AND THIS TIME FOR GOOD!!! This characteristic of a gyro combined with other elements of precession, pendulocity and damping will allow the gyro to settle toward true north. In 1908 Dr. Anschutz patented the first north seeking gyrocompass with the United Kingdom's Patent Office (Patent Number 10382/08). That same year, Elmer Sperry invented and introduced the first ballistic gyrocompass, which included vertical damping (his device was subsequently patented with the British in 1911 - Patent Number 15669/11). Both of these first devices were of the single pendulum type.

CONCLUSION : IF THE EARTH ROTATED, YOU COULD DUMP GYROS INTO THE OCEAN, BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE TOTALLY USELESS!!! FRAME IT AND DISPLAY IT SO THAT YOU CAN REMEMBER IT, AT LAST, ONCE AND FOR ALL!!! IT'S A HIGH TIME TO STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF... SPOUTING OUT SUCH NOTORIOUS LIES ISN'T EVEN FUNNY ANY MORE...[/td][/tr][/table]

Cikljamas, because you asked for it, and because I know it will irritate a couple of others here  , I'll be emailing not just Professor Smith today, but I'll go the extra mile and spear an innocent little email off to CEO, Richard Scobee.

Quote from: Stash on June 18, 2020, 02:31:39 PM

Quote from: cikljamas on June 18, 2020, 10:59:35 AM

Quote from: Stash on June 18, 2020, 09:34:09 AM

Where are the arctic foxes, ermines, Snowy Owls, jaegers, Gyrfalcons, wolves, and caribou?

They flew to Mars, didn't you know?
As for you second question : we are all friends :

I’d be surprised if you are still friends as this is an old video and perhaps from before you renounced flat earth and became a globe geocentrist.

A couple of ironic things about the video regarding Skylab and gyroscopes that you made and Bob from globe busters highlights. First, Bob already blew up the “Earth doesn’t rotate” thing with the ‘Behind the Curve’ bit. Downright embarrassing for him, I’m sure.



Secondly, Bob mentions that the Skylab astronaut is obviously in a zero G plane, not in space and then proceeds to highlight a minimum 53 second long clip of the astronaut. Zero G planes like the Vomit Comet max out at best around 30-40 seconds of zero G.

First Bob proves the earth rotates then you and Bob prove astronauts were aboard Skylab in space all in one post. Well done. Keep up the good work.

This is the best answer to your lies :

Quote from: cikljamas on June 19, 2020, 04:42:15 AM

This is the best answer to your lies :

Again, if this is another one of your "bests", very sad.

First off, on FECORE's web site, this gyro experiment test results are still "Pending".
https://fecore.org/test-results/

Why? The video you posted is almost a year old. And their results are still "pending"? How hard can it be? Maybe it's because there was movement detected even though they said there wasn't:

Quote from: Stash on June 19, 2020, 11:34:49 AM

Quote from: cikljamas on June 19, 2020, 04:42:15 AM

This is the best answer to your lies :

Again, if this is another one of your "bests", very sad.

First off, on FECORE's web site, this gyro experiment test results are still "Pending".
https://fecore.org/test-results/

Why? The video you posted is almost a year old. And their results are still "pending"? How hard can it be? Maybe it's because there was movement detected even though they said there wasn't:

First three minutes (after speeding up the gyro) are critical in this experiment because during these first 3 minutes flying wheel rotates at the highest rate and such high rpm enable us to spot any movement of the earth if existed. Such high rpm also dispel/dissipate any shaking of the gyro (which phenomena occurs in a later phase of an experiment (at lower rpm) due to some mechanical inaccuracies of this particular instrument). If there was any movement of the earth, after 3 minutes (at that latitude) we would witness a half degree displacement of the pointer of the gyro, and as you can see there wasn't any displacement whatsoever in the first three minutes of this experiment. Isn't that so? Foucault could have only dreamed of such high rpm...So, as far as i am concerned this experiment is absolute proof in favor of earth's motionless!!!

Quote from: Stash on June 19, 2020, 11:34:49 AM

Quote from: cikljamas on June 19, 2020, 04:42:15 AM

This is the best answer to your lies :

Again, if this is another one of your "bests", very sad.

First off, on FECORE's web site, this gyro experiment test results are still "Pending".
https://fecore.org/test-results/

Why? The video you posted is almost a year old. And their results are still "pending"? How hard can it be? Maybe it's because there was movement detected even though they said there wasn't:

First three minutes (after speeding up the gyro) are critical in this experiment because during these first 3 minutes flying wheel rotates at the highest rate and such high rpm enable us to spot any movement of the earth if existed. Such high rpm also dispel/dissipate any shaking of the gyro (which phenomena occurs in a later phase of an experiment (at lower rpm) due to some mechanical inaccuracies of this particular instrument). If there was any movement of the earth, after 3 minutes (at that latitude) we would witness a half degree displacement of the pointer of the gyro, and as you can see there wasn't any displacement whatsoever in the first three minutes of this experiment. Isn't that so? Foucault could have only dreamed of such high rpm...So, as far as i am concerned this experiment is absolute proof in favor of earth's motionless!!!

I think I trust Bob's professional $20k ring laser gyro experiment where he shows the earth rotate to FECORE's janky gyro cobbled together in someone's garage and they can't even report their findings from it after a year.

First three minutes (after speeding up the gyro) are critical in this experiment because during these first 3 minutes flying wheel rotates at the highest rate and such high rpm enable us to spot any movement of the earth if existed. Such high rpm also dispel/dissipate any shaking of the gyro (which phenomena occurs in a later phase of an experiment (at lower rpm) due to some mechanical inaccuracies of this particular instrument). If there was any movement of the earth, after 3 minutes (at that latitude) we would witness a half degree displacement of the pointer of the gyro, and as you can see there wasn't any displacement whatsoever in the first three minutes of this experiment. Isn't that so? Foucault could have only dreamed of such high rpm...So, as far as i am concerned this experiment is absolute proof in favor of earth's motionless!!!

Quote from: cikljamas on June 19, 2020, 01:03:51 PM

First three minutes (after speeding up the gyro) are critical in this experiment because during these first 3 minutes flying wheel rotates at the highest rate and such high rpm enable us to spot any movement of the earth if existed. Such high rpm also dispel/dissipate any shaking of the gyro (which phenomena occurs in a later phase of an experiment (at lower rpm) due to some mechanical inaccuracies of this particular instrument). If there was any movement of the earth, after 3 minutes (at that latitude) we would witness a half degree displacement of the pointer of the gyro, and as you can see there wasn't any displacement whatsoever in the first three minutes of this experiment. Isn't that so? Foucault could have only dreamed of such high rpm...So, as far as i am concerned this experiment is absolute proof in favor of earth's motionless!!!

You don't need much to prove your impossible dream, do you?

Because the Earth rotates so incredibly slowly, about 0.00069 rpm, the gyroscope must be mounted on essentially frictionless bearings.  The toys made be FEers never take steps like that.

Take a look at the Sperry manual, especially pages 2 and 3: Gyro-compass Mark XIV, Mod. 1, INSTRUCTIONS 17-1400 D

Why would the makers of such instruments go to such trouble if it was unnecessary?

Quote from: Stash on June 19, 2020, 01:24:23 PM

I think I trust Bob's professional $20k ring laser gyro experiment where he shows the earth rotate to FECORE's janky gyro cobbled together in someone's garage and they can't even report their findings from it after a year.

The timeline doesn't add up.
The story about $20k ring laser gyro is at least 2 years old.

The FECORE's video was mirrored on Bob's channel a year ago.

Why would Bob mirrored FECORE's video had he believed that $20k laser gyro proves that the earth rotates on it's axis?

It doesn't make any sense. Btw, Bob has never regarded his $20k laser gyro's work principle as the evidence in favor of earth's rotation! It's all about sagnac effect which is in fact one of the strongest proofs of earth's motionlessness.

Now, you can see the analysis of the first 5 minutes of FECORE's video :


If you spot any displacement of gyro's pointer, let me know...O.K.?
To be honest, two times in the video (at 8 sec. and at 1m18s (both sequences represent the same moment of the experiment (you'll see why when watching the video) there's a small movement of the whole frame of the video, but it has nothing to do with the displacement of the pointer of the gyro. The whole frame (the whole scene) moved a little bit to the left, due to some technical error. Other than that, there was no displacement, whatsoever.

Again, I think I trust Bob's professional $20k ring laser gyro experiment where he shows the earth rotate to FECORE's janky gyro cobbled together in someone's garage and they can't even report their findings from it after a year.