NASA EPIC LIES

Quote from: cikljamas on June 05, 2020, 12:54:32 PM

I am sure that you are aware that an absence of your reply will raise even more (significantly more, to be honest) suspicions

I find this most ironic coming from you, considering your refusal to reply regarding your use of faked images.

And altered videos as well as his "best" evidence being a parody video made in 2002 about Armstrong's first steps on the moon. Pathetic at best and he won't address any of this, just moves on to the next garbage meme. A truth seeker he is not.

You need to provide the original videos just like I did.

While you are researching the original sources that you need (and not just some gifs), you might try to explain how trillons of billions of water adhere to the outer surface of a sphere. You may use pure magic as an explanation.

No magic needed! It's just gravity but try keeping to the topic!

Quote from: 29silhouette on June 15, 2020, 03:45:21 PM

Quote from: cikljamas on June 05, 2020, 12:54:32 PM

I am sure that you are aware that an absence of your reply will raise even more (significantly more, to be honest) suspicions

I find this most ironic coming from you, considering your refusal to reply regarding your use of faked images.

And altered videos as well as his "best" evidence being a parody video made in 2002 about Armstrong's first steps on the moon. Pathetic at best and he won't address any of this, just moves on to the next garbage meme. A truth seeker he is not.

Cikljamas is an old hand at using "Photoshopped" photos!

Quote from: cikljamas on June 13, 2020, 06:53:33 AM

Everyone is very welcome to try to explain this idiocy!!!

No, YOU explain this:
Why do you continue to use known photoshopped photos in your videos:

Quote from: rabinoz on May 31, 2020, 07:10:47 PM

How would earth look from the moon by cikljamas.
That photo in the lower left is a fake as the one in the lower right.

The following "photo" is a composite and is made up of two photos from NASA:

Of course the light comes from different directions! That is not a genuine NASA photo.

And these can be found at 30:29 in YOUR video: APOLLO HOAX OF THE CENTURY part 2 by Mala, ODIUPICKU'S CLONE who is cikljamas's clone
The whole section of that video from 30:17 to 31:03 is a bunch of lies based on known fake photos.

You have been told about the long ago but you still use that same bit of discredited video!

Why do you continue use known photoshopped photos?

But even shown evidence of his own fakery he won't face the issue! A guilty conscience maybe?

Zero media criticism shown. None.

If it can in someway be thought of as being in support of one's narrative, it'll go down hook, line, and sinker.

Poe's law, and all that.

The following "photo" is a composite and is made up of two photos from NASA:

Was this made by me or NASA :

How can you see that as being a mouse?!

The one on the top looks to me more like a fish carcass, head and spinal column.

Quote from: rabinoz on June 15, 2020, 05:44:17 PM

The following "photo" is a composite and is made up of two photos from NASA:

So you admit to using misleading composite photos made by someone, NOT NASA, fro two genuine photos from NASA.
Well, that's something.

Now, did you fake the other photos or not? Because you did use two other bad composite photos to try to prove your lies.

Was this made by me or NASA :

Don't ask me but the originals were genuine videos posted on YouTube by SpaceX or NASA.

And if you think that is a mouse then it's obvious that you are totally clueless!

So by yet another attempted derailment can we conclude that the Challenger disaster was real and all the astronauts died?
If not, why keep deflecting rather than providing any actual evidence.

Yes, it is climbing right up again. Those "similar effects" are nowhere close to Jerry: they feature movements (attributed to ice) which slide down and never go up again. The tail of the mouse is in plain sight.

No, it isn't.
It first falls down.
As it does it hits a metal tube, the turbine exhaust manifold.
It then slides down further along that tube.
No going up.

So by yet another attempted derailment can we conclude that the Challenger disaster was real and all the astronauts died?
If not, why keep deflecting rather than providing any actual evidence.

Quote from: sandokhan on June 15, 2020, 07:11:39 AM

Yes, it is climbing right up again. Those "similar effects" are nowhere close to Jerry: they feature movements (attributed to ice) which slide down and never go up again. The tail of the mouse is in plain sight.

No, it isn't.
It first falls down.
As it does it hits a metal tube, the turbine exhaust manifold.
It then slides down further along that tube.
No going up.

There are legit questions regarding the validity of those astronauts dying. Many believe with fair reason they are living quietly in the US to this day

There are legit questions regarding the validity of those astronauts dying. Many believe with fair reason they are living quietly in the US to this day

I am yet to see any reasonable evidence to indicate they are alive, so I would not say they are legit questions, nor a fair reason.

If you have a fair reason, feel free to present it.

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 04:05:10 PM

There are legit questions regarding the validity of those astronauts dying. Many believe with fair reason they are living quietly in the US to this day

I am yet to see any reasonable evidence to indicate they are alive, so I would not say they are legit questions, nor a fair reason.

If you have a fair reason, feel free to present it.

You will find the evidence on snopes.com

But it is labelled as false. But as we all know, snopes is horse manure when it comes to the truth. It's designed to be correct for the obvious BS floating around out there so it's claims of 'false' on conspiracy theories carries weight.

Basically, if you see a conspiracy theory on snopes that involves the government, the answer is the opposite of what snopes says

Quote from: JackBlack on June 16, 2020, 04:09:22 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 04:05:10 PM

There are legit questions regarding the validity of those astronauts dying. Many believe with fair reason they are living quietly in the US to this day

I am yet to see any reasonable evidence to indicate they are alive, so I would not say they are legit questions, nor a fair reason.

If you have a fair reason, feel free to present it.

You will find the evidence on snopes.com

But it is labelled as false. But as we all know, snopes is horse manure when it comes to the truth. It's designed to be correct for the obvious BS floating around out there so it's claims of 'false' on conspiracy theories carries weight.

Basically, if you see a conspiracy theory on snopes that involves the government, the answer is the opposite of what snopes says

Where did you get all of this from? Just your personal snopes perception/assessment?

There is literally no evidence they are alive. None. The "doppelgängers", at a minimum, led entirely different lives leading up to, during, and after the accident.

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 04:46:54 PM

Quote from: JackBlack on June 16, 2020, 04:09:22 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 04:05:10 PM

There are legit questions regarding the validity of those astronauts dying. Many believe with fair reason they are living quietly in the US to this day

I am yet to see any reasonable evidence to indicate they are alive, so I would not say they are legit questions, nor a fair reason.

If you have a fair reason, feel free to present it.

You will find the evidence on snopes.com

But it is labelled as false. But as we all know, snopes is horse manure when it comes to the truth. It's designed to be correct for the obvious BS floating around out there so it's claims of 'false' on conspiracy theories carries weight.

Basically, if you see a conspiracy theory on snopes that involves the government, the answer is the opposite of what snopes says

Where did you get all of this from? Just your personal snopes perception/assessment?

There is literally no evidence they are alive. None. The "doppelgängers", at a minimum, led entirely different lives leading up to, during, and after the accident.

So how many doppelgangers do you have floating around?

Quote from: Stash on June 16, 2020, 05:06:58 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 04:46:54 PM

Quote from: JackBlack on June 16, 2020, 04:09:22 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 04:05:10 PM

There are legit questions regarding the validity of those astronauts dying. Many believe with fair reason they are living quietly in the US to this day

I am yet to see any reasonable evidence to indicate they are alive, so I would not say they are legit questions, nor a fair reason.

If you have a fair reason, feel free to present it.

You will find the evidence on snopes.com

But it is labelled as false. But as we all know, snopes is horse manure when it comes to the truth. It's designed to be correct for the obvious BS floating around out there so it's claims of 'false' on conspiracy theories carries weight.

Basically, if you see a conspiracy theory on snopes that involves the government, the answer is the opposite of what snopes says

Where did you get all of this from? Just your personal snopes perception/assessment?

There is literally no evidence they are alive. None. The "doppelgängers", at a minimum, led entirely different lives leading up to, during, and after the accident.

So how many doppelgangers do you have floating around?

3 that I know of. All actors I have been mistaken for over the years. One where the entire wait staff at a restaurant was so convinced that they wanted a picture with me. No matter how much I told them I wasn't this minor celeb, they didn't believe me. I obliged and even signed an autograph.

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 05:11:16 PM

Quote from: Stash on June 16, 2020, 05:06:58 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 04:46:54 PM

Quote from: JackBlack on June 16, 2020, 04:09:22 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 04:05:10 PM

There are legit questions regarding the validity of those astronauts dying. Many believe with fair reason they are living quietly in the US to this day

I am yet to see any reasonable evidence to indicate they are alive, so I would not say they are legit questions, nor a fair reason.

If you have a fair reason, feel free to present it.

You will find the evidence on snopes.com

But it is labelled as false. But as we all know, snopes is horse manure when it comes to the truth. It's designed to be correct for the obvious BS floating around out there so it's claims of 'false' on conspiracy theories carries weight.

Basically, if you see a conspiracy theory on snopes that involves the government, the answer is the opposite of what snopes says

Where did you get all of this from? Just your personal snopes perception/assessment?

There is literally no evidence they are alive. None. The "doppelgängers", at a minimum, led entirely different lives leading up to, during, and after the accident.

So how many doppelgangers do you have floating around?

3 that I know of. All actors I have been mistaken for over the years. One where the entire wait staff at a restaurant was so convinced that they wanted a picture with me. No matter how much I told them I wasn't this minor celeb, they didn't believe me. I obliged and even signed an autograph.

Hmmm. Interesting. Who is this celeb doppelganger?

When I was a teenager I was told I looked like Prince William lol. Thankfully one of us kept a full head of hair!

Quote from: rabinoz on June 15, 2020, 05:44:17 PM

The following "photo" is a composite and is made up of two photos from NASA:

Was this made by me or NASA :

Seriously, cikljamas? You really think that mechanical part of a space craft or ice, or whatever it is, is a mouse? Can you also see it gobble down a bit of cheese also in those videos? If you look closely, cikljamas, you might also be able to find an ant in the video - it would be no fun if it were just a spek of dust, would it?

Now I'm convinced more than ever, that you defending the challenger doppelganger conspiracy has everything to do with your eyesight, and the way your brain interprets images. Either that, or you suffer from the most extreme form of paradolia ever.

Just because a person has two eyes, a nose, a mouth, and two ears, does not automatically make that person a person you want them to be. Likewise, just because a small object is recorded moving across a metal surface, does not automatically make that object a mouse!

Have you heard back from professor Smith, Cikljamas? Believe me, if I ever email professor Smith, it will be to suggest you would make a fantastic university study in his behaviour science course.

Shifter, the challenger doppelganger conspiracy theory is bullshit aimed squarely at the poorly educated and gullible. It condones disrespect. Would you like cikljamas to start a conspiracy theory that you are the real prince Williams and the guy in Buckingham palace is an imposter?

Shifter, the challenger doppelganger conspiracy theory is bullshit aimed squarely at the poorly educated and gullible. It condones disrespect. Would you like cikljamas to start a conspiracy theory that you are the real prince Williams and the guy in Buckingham palace is an imposter?

Yes. I wouldn't mind the luxury and wealth of a soon to be King

Plus I think my head would look far better on a coin then that balding imposter!

Win win for everyone! (except that imposter)

Quote from: Stash on June 16, 2020, 05:17:43 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 05:11:16 PM

Quote from: Stash on June 16, 2020, 05:06:58 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 04:46:54 PM

Quote from: JackBlack on June 16, 2020, 04:09:22 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 04:05:10 PM

There are legit questions regarding the validity of those astronauts dying. Many believe with fair reason they are living quietly in the US to this day

I am yet to see any reasonable evidence to indicate they are alive, so I would not say they are legit questions, nor a fair reason.

If you have a fair reason, feel free to present it.

You will find the evidence on snopes.com

But it is labelled as false. But as we all know, snopes is horse manure when it comes to the truth. It's designed to be correct for the obvious BS floating around out there so it's claims of 'false' on conspiracy theories carries weight.

Basically, if you see a conspiracy theory on snopes that involves the government, the answer is the opposite of what snopes says

Where did you get all of this from? Just your personal snopes perception/assessment?

There is literally no evidence they are alive. None. The "doppelgängers", at a minimum, led entirely different lives leading up to, during, and after the accident.

So how many doppelgangers do you have floating around?

3 that I know of. All actors I have been mistaken for over the years. One where the entire wait staff at a restaurant was so convinced that they wanted a picture with me. No matter how much I told them I wasn't this minor celeb, they didn't believe me. I obliged and even signed an autograph.

Hmmm. Interesting. Who is this celeb doppelganger?

When I was a teenager I was told I looked like Prince William lol. Thankfully one of us kept a full head of hair!

Kiefer Sutherland was the one where I took the photo and signed the autograph. That's the most common one I've gotten. Kenneth Branagh, another kind of common one. And a rare one, just a few times and when I was a lot younger, Eric Stolz. All not especially handsome. 

I think I have a doppelgänger here in the city as well. Over the years, on about 3-4 occasions I've had friends tell me they saw me across the street, across the bar or whathaveyou and it wasn't me. And they would swear up and down that it was me.

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 06:23:13 PM

Quote from: Stash on June 16, 2020, 05:17:43 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 05:11:16 PM

Quote from: Stash on June 16, 2020, 05:06:58 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 04:46:54 PM

Quote from: JackBlack on June 16, 2020, 04:09:22 PM

Quote from: Shifter on June 16, 2020, 04:05:10 PM

There are legit questions regarding the validity of those astronauts dying. Many believe with fair reason they are living quietly in the US to this day

I am yet to see any reasonable evidence to indicate they are alive, so I would not say they are legit questions, nor a fair reason.

If you have a fair reason, feel free to present it.

You will find the evidence on snopes.com

But it is labelled as false. But as we all know, snopes is horse manure when it comes to the truth. It's designed to be correct for the obvious BS floating around out there so it's claims of 'false' on conspiracy theories carries weight.

Basically, if you see a conspiracy theory on snopes that involves the government, the answer is the opposite of what snopes says

Where did you get all of this from? Just your personal snopes perception/assessment?

There is literally no evidence they are alive. None. The "doppelgängers", at a minimum, led entirely different lives leading up to, during, and after the accident.

So how many doppelgangers do you have floating around?

3 that I know of. All actors I have been mistaken for over the years. One where the entire wait staff at a restaurant was so convinced that they wanted a picture with me. No matter how much I told them I wasn't this minor celeb, they didn't believe me. I obliged and even signed an autograph.

Hmmm. Interesting. Who is this celeb doppelganger?

When I was a teenager I was told I looked like Prince William lol. Thankfully one of us kept a full head of hair!

Kiefer Sutherland was the one where I took the photo and signed the autograph. That's the most common one I've gotten. Kenneth Branagh, another kind of common one. And a rare one, just a few times and when I was a lot younger, Eric Stolz. All not especially handsome. 

I think I have a doppelgänger here in the city as well. Over the years, on about 3-4 occasions I've had friends tell me they saw me across the street, across the bar or whathaveyou and it wasn't me. And they would swear up and down that it was me.

Maybe your mum had twins or triplets and gave a few away without telling you

Kiefer is cool! And even though I despise monarchy it is good to be the king!

I am delighted by these latest events in this thread!

I cannot report any such activity. Someone super drunk once asked if I play guitar for a local band I did not know. Far cry from 24 and king of England.

Kiefer is cool! And even though I despise monarchy it is good to be the king!

I am delighted by these latest events in this thread!

I cannot report any such activity. Someone super drunk once asked if I play guitar for a local band I did not know. Far cry from 24 and king of England.

I don't know, being mistaken for a local rocker is pretty badass. At least they didn't mistake you for the drummer or bassist. 

I guess the point is we all have doppelgängers. Even dead astronauts.

You will find the evidence on snopes.com

Nope, not there.
It is really strange that you would claim a site as providing evidence, then just say it is crap.

Again, where is your evidence?

It seems your "evidence" for a conspiracy by the government is just a claim of conspiracy by the government.

Maybe your mum had twins or triplets and gave a few away without telling you

Or maybe he was secretly cloned.

Quote from: cikljamas on June 16, 2020, 05:20:29 AM

Quote from: rabinoz on June 15, 2020, 05:44:17 PM

The following "photo" is a composite and is made up of two photos from NASA:

Was this made by me or NASA :

Seriously, cikljamas? You really think that mechanical part of a space craft or ice, or whatever it is, is a mouse? Can you also see it gobble down a bit of cheese also in those videos?

THAT'S A MOUSE :

THAT'S A MOUSE

Prove it.
There is no justification for that claim at all.

Quote from: Smoke machine police on June 16, 2020, 06:26:03 PM

Quote from: cikljamas on June 16, 2020, 05:20:29 AM

Quote from: rabinoz on June 15, 2020, 05:44:17 PM

The following "photo" is a composite and is made up of two photos from NASA:

Was this made by me or NASA :

Seriously, cikljamas? You really think that mechanical part of a space craft or ice, or whatever it is, is a mouse? Can you also see it gobble down a bit of cheese also in those videos?

THAT'S A MOUSE :

They look nothing like a mouse and do it move like mice move.

Quote from: Smoke machine police on June 16, 2020, 06:26:03 PM

Quote from: cikljamas on June 16, 2020, 05:20:29 AM

Quote from: rabinoz on June 15, 2020, 05:44:17 PM

The following "photo" is a composite and is made up of two photos from NASA:

Was this made by me or NASA :

Seriously, cikljamas? You really think that mechanical part of a space craft or ice, or whatever it is, is a mouse? Can you also see it gobble down a bit of cheese also in those videos?

THAT'S A MOUSE :

Seems that this is your latest 'best' evidence that NASA lies after your fabricated ones have all been refuted. And your best evidence is now ice sliding around the cowling of a SpaceX rocket like the many, many examples of it happening before. Hilarious. Can't wait to see what you come up with next.

You need to provide the original videos just like I did.

While you are researching the original sources that you need (and not just some gifs), you might try to explain how trillons of billions of water adhere to the outer surface of a sphere. You may use pure magic as an explanation.

If gravity isn't the answer to your riveting question, sandokhan, what is the answer? (I'm already sorry I asked)

It's ironic cikljamas last, and best video he's ever posted, features a forced game of Russian roulette. Because, watching cikljamas dodge questions and knowing you are about to say "universal accelaration" is your answer, makes me wish I was one of those prisoners of war in cikljamas little video.

How can you argue with an individual who denies the existence of gravity?

Sandokhan, I'm sorry, but I've been in a university lab where experiments with lasers were used to measure the gravitational force at different locations on the planet. Universal acceleration on the other hand, would provide a uniform force pushing down on the rising disc, so universal acceleration is tragically refuted.

Quote from: cikljamas on June 17, 2020, 04:42:22 AM

THAT'S A MOUSE

Prove it.
There is no justification for that claim at all.

You need more evidence of NASA's "credibility?"
Here we go :


NASA DESTROYED AGAIN (Small Mammal (rodent) On Mars) :

NASA DESTROYED AGAIN (Greenland portrayed as Mars) :

You need more evidence of NASA's "credibility?"
Here we go :

Already discussed elsewhere.
You have a rock, like plenty of other rocks.
The resolution is too low to show it is an animal, and you are just assuming it is one because you want it to be and because your brain is good at picking up patterns from noise.
What I want is for you to either admit the challenger disaster was a real disaster where the people died, or to provide evidence that they didn't.