NASA EPIC LIES

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rabinoz

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2020, 08:30:25 PM »

I'm not wasting my time with you copy-n-paste lies but look at the Curriculum Vitae for Judith Resnik, Yale law professor at Judith Resnik.
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Where was this Judith Resnik on 28 January 1986 -  certainly not on board the Challenger?

So scrub your lies about Judith Resnik!



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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2020, 10:47:16 PM »
Are you really arguing that she didn't write that she was a dead astronaut on her CV? A pretty poor argument.

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2020, 10:56:54 PM »
Things like this are FE at their lowest.

Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2020, 11:29:48 PM »
Are you really arguing that she didn't write that she was a dead astronaut on her CV? A pretty poor argument.
If you actually look at her CV you can see that she was busy doing things. Astronauts train for years for a flight. This lady was doing other things. Plus, you don't have any rational argument.

Honestly, isn't this harrassment? That even 34 years later, the people that are looking like those astronauts are still being bothered. Look at the explosion and the time between that and finding the bodies. You cannot be more dead than those people.

If FE needs to resort to these conspiracy theories, how is that helping your cause? Is science off the table now?

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« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2020, 01:41:30 AM »
Are you really arguing that she didn't write that she was a dead astronaut on her CV? A pretty poor argument.
Not at all.

Now, look at what Judith Arlene Resnik, astronaut and Judith Resnik and "Yale Law Professor" were doing for a period before the Challenger disaster. There is no possibility that they could have been the same person.

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Career
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Upon graduation from Carnegie Mellon, Resnik worked at RCA as a design engineer in missile and radar projects and won the Graduate Study Program Award. She performed circuit design for the missile and surface radar division. While at RCA, she worked for NASA building custom integrated circuitry for the phased-array radar control systems and developed electronics and software for NASA's sounding rocket and telemetry systems programs. An academic paper she wrote on special purpose integrated circuitry caught the attention of NASA during this time.

In 1977, Resnik qualified as a professional aircraft pilot while completing her Ph.D., having achieved near perfect scores in her flying exams (two 100s and a 98). After joining NASA, she piloted the Northrop T-38 Talon. Astronaut Jerome Apt described her as “an excellent pilot and a superb operator in space”.

While working on her doctorate, Resnik also worked as a research fellow of biomedical engineering at the Laboratory of Neurophysiology at the National Institutes of Health. As a biomedical engineer, Resnik researched the physiology of visual systems. An academic article she published in 1978 concerned the biomedical engineering of optometry ("A novel rapid scanning microspectrophotometer and its use in measuring rhodopsin photoproduct pathways and kinetics in frog retinas"). She was a senior systems engineer for Xerox Corporation in product development.

NASA Astronaut Corps
In January 1978, Resnik was recruited at age 28 into the NASA Astronaut Corps, one of six women selected out of 8,000 applicants.[27] The program to find women astronauts was developed by actress Nichelle Nichols, who volunteered her time. Her mentor and advisor, Professor Angel G. Jordan, then Dean of Carnegie Mellon College of Engineering and later provost of Carnegie Mellon, encouraged Resnik to apply for the program. Jordan later regretted doing so, saying 25 years after the Challenger disaster, “She was an amazing person... I pushed her to excel, and I live with that memory every day."

On joining NASA's astronaut program, Resnik trained intensely and with great determination, focusing particularly on her physical fitness. She was deeply disappointed when she didn't become the first American woman in space. During training, it was assumed that either Resnik or Sally Ride would become the first woman in space, as they were the only female trainees receiving "the sorts of technical assignments which really prepared them for flight", such as RMS work and CAPCOM duties.

Resnik's first space flight was on the maiden voyage of Discovery from August to September 1984 as a mission specialist. Her duties included operating the shuttle's robotic arm, which she helped create and on which she was an expert. She deployed and conducted experiments on a solar array wing as a potential future way of generating additional electrical power during space missions. After performing numerous dynamic tests, Resnik concluded that the experiment was very well-behaved and matched ground simulations of the array. She advocated the benefits of the solar array technology, particularly for future use in powering space stations.

During the mission, Resnik held a written sign saying "Hi Dad" to the cameras, and in a live televised broadcast from space with President Reagan told him, "The Earth looks great". When Reagan asked her if the flight was all she hoped it would be, she replied, "It certainly is and I couldn't have picked a better crew to fly with." Henry Hartsfield described Resnik as the "astronaut's astronaut" after the mission, while Mike Mullane wrote, "I was also happy to be crewed with Judy... She was smart, hardworking, and dependable, all the things you would want in a fellow crewmember."

While undergoing the intensive training of the NASA astronaut program, Resnik worked for NASA on research into the principle of orbital systems, flight software and the development of systems of manual control of spacecraft. She developed the software and operating procedures for the Remote Manipulation System for NASA. In addition, she developed the deployment systems for the tethered satellite system as well as working on orbiter development and creating experimental software for NASA to use on its missions.

Look at what Judith Arlene Resnik, astronaut was doing on these dates:
1977: Resnik qualified as a professional aircraft pilot.
1978: January, Resnik was recruited at age 28 into the NASA Astronaut Corps.
1978: she published an academic article concerning the biomedical engineering of optometry.
1984 August to September: Resnik's first space flight was on the maiden voyage of Discovery.
1986 January 28: Judith Arlene Resnik was lost in the Challenger disaster.

Now look at what Judith Resnik, "Yale Law Professor" was doing:
1976-1977: Instructor, New York University School of Law,
1977-1979: Lecturer in Law and Supervising Attorney, Yale Law School,
1979-1980: Acting Director, Daniel and Florence Guggenheim Program in Criminal Justice, Yale Law School,
1982-1985: Associate Professor,
1985-1989: Professor of Law.
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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2020, 01:50:58 AM »
Are you really arguing that she didn't write that she was a dead astronaut on her CV? A pretty poor argument.
No, instead she wrote about a life that is completely different to the Astronaut you lie and say she is.
Do you think no one bothered checking on any of that?

You are the one with a very poor argument.
Hey look, 2 people with the same name which are both female with black hair. They must be the same person.
That is an extremely poor argument.

Where is any evidence at all that these 2 are the same people?
All you have is a name, but as you have pointed out, there are other people with that name as well. Are they all the same person? No!
So you have basically nothing.

Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2020, 02:15:59 AM »
Are you really arguing that she didn't write that she was a dead astronaut on her CV? A pretty poor argument.

No.  The point is the woman who is claimed to be the astronaut had a completely different life.

If anyone was serious about investigating if the law professor was actually the same woman, they could “do their research” (TM) and find out if people at Yale remember her being there, or if she just popped into existence following the Challenger accident.

But as usual for flat earthers, space deniers and other conspiracy theorists, some people are happy with any flimsy claim instead of real investigation and credible evidence.

Lazy acceptance of whatever nonsense they find on the internet fits the world view.  And we’re the sheep, apparently?

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2020, 05:13:33 AM »
Are you really arguing that she didn't write that she was a dead astronaut on her CV? A pretty poor argument.

Your entire argument is two people kinda look alike. Quit spreading libel and lying about real people.

It's bad enough when it's someone famous who can defend themselves, it's far worse to do it to the dead and put their families through hell, and to harass and lie about living, innocent people.

You should be utterly ashamed.

And you know damn well nobody is saying the living Resnick wrote "dead astronaut" on her CV. You are deflecting hard here, and over a horrible lie.

You might be used to using tactics like this arguing flat earth theory but now you're talking about real people and your transparent tactics here are looking to be in very, very bad taste and poor judgment.

Have some empathy, man.

Deeply disappointing.

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2020, 07:28:59 AM »
And you know damn well nobody is saying the living Resnick wrote "dead astronaut" on her CV. You are deflecting hard here, and over a horrible lie.

Great. I am glad that it is admitted that she would lie about her past, hence invalidating the arguments here based upon what she claims in her CV.
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cikljamas

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2020, 07:31:05 AM »
Are you really arguing that she didn't write that she was a dead astronaut on her CV? A pretty poor argument.

Didn't she? What a shame... :lol:

Just one? How about two?
You don't have two. You don't even have 1.
Now like I said, pick one and stick to it.

If you are going to spam a bunch of them because you aren't capable of defending one and instead need to jump between them, it shows you have none.

So take your pick, choose ONE and defend that 1, or I will take it you have none.

What will it be?

So, according to you, two is less than one, and three is less than four, and so on?

It’s one thing that one of the Challenger’s crew members resembles someone alive today. For that, we can chalk it up to a coincidence.

It’s another thing entirely that SIX members of the Challenger crew have doppelgangers who are alive, in some cases with exactly the same names (Richard Scobee, Michael J. Smith, Judith Resnick, Sharon McAuliffe). What are the chances of that?

Have you noticed that all remaining four of them have the same names?

Only two alleged twin brothers have different names, four others have the same names, how convenient?!?!?

What's more, those who are not even related (allegedly) (Richard Scobee, Michael J. Smith, Judith Resnick, Sharon McAuliffe) are even more alike to their Challenger crew doppelgangers than it is the case regarding the degree of the apparent resemblance between two pairs of (alleged) twin brothers.

To recap :

Two out of six are identical twins.
Remaining four are even more mutually alike than we should expect to be the case between identical twins.
Remaining four have the same names.
All six are the same age as their Challenger crew doppelgangers.

And now you can even see forensic analysis :


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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2020, 07:32:22 AM »
You guys could just introduce evidence.
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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2020, 07:36:09 AM »
You guys could just introduce evidence.

If this is not evidence then what is :
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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2020, 07:40:00 AM »
I am sure, for example, some European and Russian medias would love a chance like this!

Alas, it appears, for some reason, the only people who are delighted inhabit the least-likely-to-feature-in-the-Nobel-banquet end of the gene pool.

Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2020, 07:40:37 AM »
You guys could just introduce evidence.

If this is not evidence then what is :

Funny, the morphing in that video actually shows that these are not the same people. Otherwise, why would the face be different? And yes, I am considering aging, but that does not change the shape of your face.

And, a video from space is CGI and fake but a video that you share is not?

Look at more than some conspiracy videos and do your own actual research on things. You should "lurk moar".

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2020, 07:47:00 AM »
You guys could just introduce evidence.

If this is not evidence then what is :

Looks to be opinion based. Do you have a time stamp for actual forensic analysis?
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cikljamas

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2020, 07:47:15 AM »
You guys could just introduce evidence.

If this is not evidence then what is :

Funny, the morphing in that video actually shows that these are not the same people. Otherwise, why would the face be different?

The best example of willful blindness i ever saw! Congratulations!

IN ADDITION :

I have an idea about the why. Having the challenger explode enabled the shutting down of the space program for years right? During this time the Soviets were allowed to catch up in a manner of speaking even if only as a myth. Not having space wars also enabled the antagonistic dialogue between both countries to simmer down. Meanwhile plans were being made fort the soviets to take down the wall and declare communism dead.

Of course the wall coming down really just meant the stealthy and quicker infiltration of collectivist, totalitarian ideas into the west. Many people are not aware of this but in 1985 I beleive Reagan signed an agreement with Gorby to merge our education curriculums. The basics of the exchange is that we would provide the Russians with our tech expertise and they would provide us with all their classroom mind control wisdom. ( Common Core is the Outcome based result creating the dumbed down perfect compliant worker )

Anyway .. I digress…. But I think the point was to create space, no pun intended, to allow the dialectic to move to the next stage. The Challenger ( word play! ) was the synthesis of the thesis /US and the antithesis/Soviets.

Don’t forget the demographic makeup of the astronauts on board covered all bases. That in itself was very symbolic. You might say Global in its representation.
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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2020, 07:59:13 AM »
You guys could just introduce evidence.

If this is not evidence then what is :

Funny, the morphing in that video actually shows that these are not the same people. Otherwise, why would the face be different?

The best example of willful blindness i ever saw! Congratulations!
How so? I watch without audio on purpose, to not let someone influence what I see. And I see that when the pictures are overlayed, they don't match.

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Anyway .. I digress…. But I think the point was to create space, no pun intended, to allow the dialectic to move to the next stage. The Challenger ( word play! ) was the synthesis of the thesis /US and the antithesis/Soviets.
The Soviet Union collapsed because of internal conflicts, starting in the Baltics and spreading out throughout the Iron Curtain. I don't think the people that lived in those countries gave a rats *ss about the USA (surprise! not many people outside of the USA do). They were just tired of the Soviet Union controlling them.

Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2020, 08:07:16 AM »
By the way, I wonder. Why are you so focussed on an old Space Shuttle launch that went wrong while there is also the 2003 space shuttle explosion. Surely, there must be more documentation on the latter one? There's probably digital photos of those people, which should make your proof also easier. Right?

Or is the 1986 one easier because it is harder to find documents on those people because it happened before the digital age? And therefore it gives you more stuff to write a conspiracy theory on?

I'd focus on the 2003 one. I'm not using this as a distraction, I'm trying to make a point here.

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2020, 08:24:12 AM »
According to her bio she moved to live with her husband while he was studying law. Not much of a stretch that she would go into law afterwards if NASA wanted her to move and change careers. In the 80's they didn't have the internet like we do now and may not have forseen that this was not good enough.

Again, listing what the older Resnik claimed to do in the 80's is hardly good enough. You are claiming that she didn't write that she was a dead astronaut and listed some things about what she was doing so therefore she isn't her.

And again, ignoring the phenomenal coincidences of a doppelganger with the same facial tick and super rare name.

There was a man where I worked that looked like one of my great uncles, right down to his gate as he walked. Thing is my great uncle died twenty years before. Another man in our section was the spitting image of my cousin. So much so that we went into great detail of our respective family trees. No relation we could find. I walked into the nursing home where my dad was being cared for, in a surprise visit. He was in Idaho and I in Indiana. This was my first time there. The nurse looked up from the desk, cocked her head, and said, "You're Leo's son. You look so much like him." She wasn't asking, she was making a statement of fact based on what she saw. Everyone I know has similar
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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2020, 08:55:39 AM »
And you know damn well nobody is saying the living Resnick wrote "dead astronaut" on her CV. You are deflecting hard here, and over a horrible lie.

Great. I am glad that is admitted that she would lie about her past, hence invalidating the arguments here based upon what she claims in her CV.

What are you even talking about here? You're not making ANY sense at all.

You link right now where Resnick claimed to be a "Dead Astronaut" or stop claiming she did.

It makes me sick that you can be glad about anything related to dead astronauts and your lying about them.

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2020, 09:43:52 AM »
According to her bio she moved to live with her husband while he was studying law. Not much of a stretch that she would go into law afterwards if NASA wanted her to move and change careers. In the 80's they didn't have the internet like we do now and may not have forseen that this was not good enough.

Again, listing what the older Resnik claimed to do in the 80's is hardly good enough. You are claiming that she didn't write that she was a dead astronaut and listed some things about what she was doing so therefore she isn't her.

And again, ignoring the phenomenal coincidences of a doppelganger with the same facial tick and super rare name.

There was a man where I worked that looked like one of my great uncles, right down to his gate as he walked. Thing is my great uncle died twenty years before. Another man in our section was the spitting image of my cousin. So much so that we went into great detail of our respective family trees. No relation we could find. I walked into the nursing home where my dad was being cared for, in a surprise visit. He was in Idaho and I in Indiana. This was my first time there. The nurse looked up from the desk, cocked her head, and said, "You're Leo's son. You look so much like him." She wasn't asking, she was making a statement of fact based on what she saw. Everyone I know has similar
 stories

Yeah, and how likely is it that your rare doppleganger would also share a name so rare that you are the only other person (or one of the very few) people in the US with that name? And a similar facial tic on their lip? Not too likely.

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #51 on: May 31, 2020, 09:49:21 AM »
And yet people win the lottery.
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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #52 on: May 31, 2020, 10:00:53 AM »
Yeah, and how likely is it that your rare doppleganger would also share a name so rare that you are the only other person (or one of the very few) people in the US with that name? And a similar facial tic on their lip? Not too likely.
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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #53 on: May 31, 2020, 10:02:24 AM »
Look at the ears of both Richard Scobee's. They are different. And ears are used in identifying people, at about the same reliability as fingerprints. They are not the same person.

McNair: One has a gap between their teeth, the other does not.

Resnik: They don't look alike at all, have been over this.

McAuliffe: Different eyes, different nose.

Conspiracy theorists also seem to forget about Gregory Jarvis.

Conclusion is that there are differences in the faces and those are in parts that don't have anything to do with age. A gap between your teeth does not suddenly appear. It can be fixed, but the one that is alive today has one and the one that is dead does not. Nobody goes from no gap to a gap.

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #54 on: May 31, 2020, 10:14:55 AM »
Yeah, and how likely is it that your rare doppleganger would also share a name so rare that you are the only other person (or one of the very few) people in the US with that name? And a similar facial tic on their lip? Not too likely.

I could find a thousand women in the US that looked like those two. Ten thousand.

Look at it this way, what are the chances that 5 women with the same name might look similar.

Your cruelly and maliciously spreading lies based on the fact that humans can look similar.

Facial tick, give me a break. Give me video footage of someone talking and I can find a point where they have that expression too.

The fact that you desperately cling to this hateful, evil conspiracy theory does not speak well of your mental state.

It's cruel and horrible what your doing.  I hope you never have to experience the pain you are selfishly inflicting on others just to cling to this conspiracy.

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« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2020, 10:19:50 AM »
Look at the ears of both Richard Scobee's. They are different. And ears are used in identifying people, at about the same reliability as fingerprints. They are not the same person.

The ears?  Well, yeah, sure.  But also the chin, the nose, the height of the nose relative to the mouth, quite a bit around the eyes, and the overall shape of the head.

Apart from that, identical.

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2020, 11:18:02 AM »
Look at the ears of both Richard Scobee's. They are different. And ears are used in identifying people, at about the same reliability as fingerprints. They are not the same person.

The ears?  Well, yeah, sure.  But also the chin, the nose, the height of the nose relative to the mouth, quite a bit around the eyes, and the overall shape of the head.

Apart from that, identical.
A-ha! So you admit it!

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2020, 01:30:32 PM »
According to her bio she moved to live with her husband while he was studying law. Not much of a stretch that she would go into law afterwards if NASA wanted her to move and change careers. In the 80's they didn't have the internet like we do now and may not have forseen that this was not good enough.

Again, listing what the older Resnik claimed to do in the 80's is hardly good enough. You are claiming that she didn't write that she was a dead astronaut and listed some things about what she was doing so therefore she isn't her.  :)

And again, ignoring the phenomenal coincidences of a doppelganger with the same facial tick and super rare name.


Yeah, and how likely is it that your rare doppleganger would also share a name so rare that you are the only other person (or one of the very few) people in the US with that name? And a similar facial tic on their lip? Not too likely.

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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2020, 01:41:43 PM »
Yeah, and how likely is it that your rare doppleganger would also share a name so rare that you are the only other person (or one of the very few) people in the US with that name? And a similar facial tic on their lip? Not too likely.
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Re: NASA EPIC LIES
« Reply #59 on: May 31, 2020, 01:49:33 PM »
What a coincidence.

I have proof that Tom Bishop is actually a group of doppelgangers.  The proof is right here, they are all totally identical. Proof!

See how easy it is to find similar faces? Proof!
Does this mean Tom is actually a doppelganger?

I bet one of these people has something eerily similar in common with Tom if we looked at all of them. Proof!
Does it mean they are his clones?

I bet... one of them might even have the SAME birthday! Proof!
Mathematically impossible! ( See The Birthday Paradox )