Murder of George Floyd

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Re: Murder of George Floyd
« Reply #840 on: June 26, 2020, 11:28:57 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/william-barr-task-force-anti-government-extremists-antifa-boogaloo/2020/06/26/138f424e-b7bf-11ea-a510-55bf26485c93_story.html

I am so relieved that the AG has finally started a task force to combat whatever an anti government extremist. I'm sure the term is extremely well defined and I can't think of any possible way that this can be abused.

God... He also seems to think antifa = communism and socialism, both of which are irrelevant to anti-fascism.
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« Reply #841 on: June 27, 2020, 01:13:27 AM »
JJA, I'm not shifting the goalposts at all.

In your world, do you not deem a sword, a weapon? Is a sword not a form of knife?  ???

You and I don't know what kind of sword it was or how sharp it was. But, having a friend who collects antique swords and keeps them razor sharp to the point just touching the edge the wrong way can draw blood, I would categorize a sword as a potential dangerous weapon.

In your world, do you not accept that mentally ill people these days, are more often than not, medicated, with some medications carrying extreme and unpredictable side effects? Again, we don't know those details, or the man's history with police and mental illness, but it's all relevant, and can raise the danger stakes.

I'm not saying social workers and health professionals don't have their place in dealing with the mentally ill, ofcourse they do. I'm saying they are not equipped to deal with dangerous situations, so why expose people to unnecessary risk? A workplace injury can have you off work for months, a lethal injury - dead.

What's more, is some, not all, mentally ill people, also gravitate towards self medicating with illicit drugs and/or alcohol.

Are you starting to see a dangerous situation developing here, yet, JJA?

Do you know how fast a man with a knife or sword can rush a person in a confined space and attack? One of the police should have at least had their gun drawn. How were they to know he had underlying heart problems?

A lot of things can go to shit in those situations.

We do know which kind of sword it was. It was a katana. It is long enough to be unwieldy inside a room unless you know how to use one properly, which I would bet was not the case. It was also most surely just a wall hanger.

You have to keep in mind social workers work with mentally ill people every single day, even dangerous ones. They know perfectly well the secondary effects of their medication because they work with them daily. Cops don't. Your claim that "most, if not all" of them self medicate with illicit drugs shows your lack of knowledge in these matters.

In the end, shit went wrong in the situation we were talking about, and the blame is both on the police and on the neighbour that called them, not on the guy that was in his house playing around with a wall hanger.

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« Reply #842 on: June 27, 2020, 02:42:39 AM »
Cops (especially trigger happy American ones) should absolutely not be called in situations that can be solved through de-escalation

If this guy was on his own with a sword, you don't need someone basing diem a door, guns pointed screaming to drop the weapon. Absolutely wrong way to handle it

Did he have hostages? Was he brandishing it in public? He was in his house, alone.

If he was mentally ill suffering an episode he was not 'committing a crime' he simply needed help, someone to listen to and talk him down. Police are not only not trained for that but their very uniform also raises the escalation.

From what I k ow, 'negotiators' do not wear a 'uniform' and do not go in armed for the very reason of de-escalation

The argument 'the police are very busy, stressed, overworked etc' is one of the reasons 'defund the police' is a good idea. It offloads cases they aren't the best to deal with in favour of people who are.

Better outcome for the police, the public and for social workers who I bet are even more stressed and strained then they need to be.

The police were absolutely the wrong people to call out in a case like this. Although given his neighbour was a dick, would have called them anyway regardless if social workers were fully funded and staffed

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« Reply #843 on: June 27, 2020, 07:17:23 AM »
JJA, I'm not shifting the goalposts at all.

In your world, do you not deem a sword, a weapon? Is a sword not a form of knife?  ???

You and I don't know what kind of sword it was or how sharp it was. But, having a friend who collects antique swords and keeps them razor sharp to the point just touching the edge the wrong way can draw blood, I would categorize a sword as a potential dangerous weapon.

In your world, do you not accept that mentally ill people these days, are more often than not, medicated, with some medications carrying extreme and unpredictable side effects? Again, we don't know those details, or the man's history with police and mental illness, but it's all relevant, and can raise the danger stakes.

I'm not saying social workers and health professionals don't have their place in dealing with the mentally ill, ofcourse they do. I'm saying they are not equipped to deal with dangerous situations, so why expose people to unnecessary risk? A workplace injury can have you off work for months, a lethal injury - dead.

What's more, is some, not all, mentally ill people, also gravitate towards self medicating with illicit drugs and/or alcohol.

Are you starting to see a dangerous situation developing here, yet, JJA?

Do you know how fast a man with a knife or sword can rush a person in a confined space and attack? One of the police should have at least had their gun drawn. How were they to know he had underlying heart problems?

A lot of things can go to shit in those situations.

Yeah, I'm saying that there is an undeserved stigma against people with mental illness, just as you are showing, claiming that they are all dangerous or violent.

Normal, 'healthy' people are just as prone to being violent.

There is a huge difference between having a sword or knife, and being violent. 

I'm not arguing about the guy shot with a tazer, that's a totally different issue with the neighbor calling the cops on someone they didn't like.

I'm saying that mentally ill people are better served by health care professionals. And some of them are willing to put their lives on the line to help others.  Sometimes that means dealing with someone who COULD be violent, rather than call the cops and possibly see that person killed, who may or may NOT be violent.

I sure hope if I slip into a confused state that I get helped by someone trained to do so and not tazed and twitch until I die.

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« Reply #844 on: July 01, 2020, 08:23:03 AM »
I guess they are going to start retaking the "CHAZ" now that there's been more murders. I'm really surprised they let this shit go on for as long as they did.

https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/protests/seattle-police-capitol-hill-chop-chaz/281-6253a20a-127b-4cd7-93dd-43f3f008afd0

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At least 23 arrested as Seattle police retake control of the East Precinct
Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan issued an executive order for protesters to vacate the "Capitol Hill Organized Protest" (CHOP) zone.

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Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan issued a 48-hour executive order for protestors to vacate the area due to the ongoing violence and public safety issues in the area of the East Precinct and Cal Anderson Park. Mayor Durkan's order declared the gathering as an “unlawful assembly” that required immediate action.

Police moved into the CHOP just before 5 a.m. and issued a dispersal order to any protestors in the area.

"Anyone who remains in the area, or returns to the area, is subject to arrest," SPD tweeted.

Officers arrested 23 people by 7:45 a.m. for failure to disperse, obstruction, resisting arrest, and assault. One person arrested, a 29-year-old man, had a large metal pipe and kitchen knife when he was arrested.

It's a long article, so I didn't copy and paste the whole thing.
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« Reply #845 on: July 01, 2020, 09:23:52 AM »
Link don't work for me...
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Re: Murder of George Floyd
« Reply #846 on: July 01, 2020, 09:29:57 AM »
This is a very long thread so I didn't read all of the comments but I will give you my two cents about George Floyd. It is of course a disgrace and big tragedy what happened to George Floyd and the cop is guilty. However the riots and all the looting were not random and they had nothing to do with George Floyd. The riots were organized by left wing revolutionaries and supporters of Socialism. Basically the democrats organized the riots to once again make Trump look bad in November. Make no mistake about it, these new democrats are not the same democrats existing under Carter and Clinton, these people are straight up Marxists and evil doers and are the haters of God.

They insight Chaos and disorder to fundamentally change America. They insight race riots so they can divide Americans and make people hate each other. They threw everything but the kitchen sink at Trump and nothing worked so now they are resorting to extreme measures in their revolt against Trump. they are traitors. And yes their Corona virus is completely fake too. If you guys believe that this virus is real, you are dumb mother fuckers. This is not a real virus and no one died from it.

Now let me say this, black folks need to wake up and realize that there is no Martin Luther King or Nelson Mandella leading this new movement.  They speak out against old rich white men, however their real leader is an old rich white man named Joe Biden, an 80 year old white man, you wanna tell me this guy is good for the blacks? Fucking Ridiculous
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« Reply #847 on: July 01, 2020, 10:10:52 AM »
This is a very long thread so I didn't read all of the comments but I will give you my two cents about George Floyd. It is of course a disgrace and big tragedy what happened to George Floyd and the cop is guilty. However the riots and all the looting were not random and they had nothing to do with George Floyd. The riots were organized by left wing revolutionaries and supporters of Socialism. Basically the democrats organized the riots to once again make Trump look bad in November. Make no mistake about it, these new democrats are not the same democrats existing under Carter and Clinton, these people are straight up Marxists and evil doers and are the haters of God.

They insight Chaos and disorder to fundamentally change America. They insight race riots so they can divide Americans and make people hate each other. They threw everything but the kitchen sink at Trump and nothing worked so now they are resorting to extreme measures in their revolt against Trump. they are traitors. And yes their Corona virus is completely fake too. If you guys believe that this virus is real, you are dumb mother fuckers. This is not a real virus and no one died from it.

Now let me say this, black folks need to wake up and realize that there is no Martin Luther King or Nelson Mandella leading this new movement.  They speak out against old rich white men, however their real leader is an old rich white man named Joe Biden, an 80 year old white man, you wanna tell me this guy is good for the blacks? Fucking Ridiculous

You have no idea was socialism is, do you?
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Re: Murder of George Floyd
« Reply #848 on: July 01, 2020, 10:29:02 AM »
Link don't work for me...

Maybe this one will https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-police-clearing-chop-protest-zone/  Seems like it's mostly being covered locally. I don't see any new articles from bigger media sources yet.
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« Reply #849 on: July 01, 2020, 10:52:34 AM »
This is a very long thread so I didn't read all of the comments but I will give you my two cents about George Floyd. It is of course a disgrace and big tragedy what happened to George Floyd and the cop is guilty. However the riots and all the looting were not random and they had nothing to do with George Floyd. The riots were organized by left wing revolutionaries and supporters of Socialism. Basically the democrats organized the riots to once again make Trump look bad in November. Make no mistake about it, these new democrats are not the same democrats existing under Carter and Clinton, these people are straight up Marxists and evil doers and are the haters of God.

They insight Chaos and disorder to fundamentally change America. They insight race riots so they can divide Americans and make people hate each other. They threw everything but the kitchen sink at Trump and nothing worked so now they are resorting to extreme measures in their revolt against Trump. they are traitors. And yes their Corona virus is completely fake too. If you guys believe that this virus is real, you are dumb mother fuckers. This is not a real virus and no one died from it.

Now let me say this, black folks need to wake up and realize that there is no Martin Luther King or Nelson Mandella leading this new movement.  They speak out against old rich white men, however their real leader is an old rich white man named Joe Biden, an 80 year old white man, you wanna tell me this guy is good for the blacks? Fucking Ridiculous

Wow.  You are unhinged.  When the Cronoa vaccine comes out, you are going to be one of the jerks who refuses to take it because you think it's got nano-tracking alien dna implanting mind control parasites in it and will end up killing people because we can't get herd immunity.

You probably don't wear a mask either because Trump doesn't, and probably think they don't work.

The end of humanity is going to be caused by anti-vax, uncovered mouth breathing dumb mother fuckers.

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Re: Murder of George Floyd
« Reply #850 on: July 01, 2020, 11:01:23 AM »
Wow.  You are unhinged.  When the Cronoa vaccine comes out, you are going to be one of the jerks who refuses to take it because you think it's got nano-tracking alien dna implanting mind control parasites in it
Prove that it doesn't, retard.

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« Reply #851 on: July 01, 2020, 12:00:58 PM »
Wow.  You are unhinged.  When the Cronoa vaccine comes out, you are going to be one of the jerks who refuses to take it because you think it's got nano-tracking alien dna implanting mind control parasites in it
Prove that it doesn't, retard.
But what if the mind control part of the vaccine is the only way to cure systemic racism and reduce the number of unarmed minorities killed by police?
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« Reply #852 on: July 01, 2020, 12:03:40 PM »
Wow.  You are unhinged.  When the Cronoa vaccine comes out, you are going to be one of the jerks who refuses to take it because you think it's got nano-tracking alien dna implanting mind control parasites in it
Prove that it doesn't, retard.
But what if the mind control part of the vaccine is to cure systemic racism and reduces the number of unarmed minorities killed by police?
So you think it's ok to inject people with microchips? That's pretty dumb, even for your standards.

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« Reply #853 on: July 01, 2020, 12:58:20 PM »
Wow.  You are unhinged.  When the Cronoa vaccine comes out, you are going to be one of the jerks who refuses to take it because you think it's got nano-tracking alien dna implanting mind control parasites in it
Prove that it doesn't, retard.
But what if the mind control part of the vaccine is to cure systemic racism and reduces the number of unarmed minorities killed by police?
So you think it's ok to inject people with microchips? That's pretty dumb, even for your standards.
First off, I didn't offer an opinion, I asked a question.   Not knowing the difference is pretty dumb, even by your standards.

Secondly, since when do vaccines come in the form of a microchip? ???
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Re: Murder of George Floyd
« Reply #854 on: July 01, 2020, 01:38:00 PM »
Wow.  You are unhinged.  When the Cronoa vaccine comes out, you are going to be one of the jerks who refuses to take it because you think it's got nano-tracking alien dna implanting mind control parasites in it
Prove that it doesn't, retard.
But what if the mind control part of the vaccine is to cure systemic racism and reduces the number of unarmed minorities killed by police?
So you think it's ok to inject people with microchips? That's pretty dumb, even for your standards.
First off, I didn't offer an opinion, I asked a question.   Not knowing the difference is pretty dumb, even by your standards.

Secondly, since when do vaccines come in the form of a microchip? ???
First off, I didn't offer an opinion, I asked a question.   Not knowing the difference is pretty dumb, even by your standards.

Secondly, I didnt say they do I just asked for proof that they don't!
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Re: Murder of George Floyd
« Reply #855 on: July 01, 2020, 04:45:22 PM »
Wow.  You are unhinged.  When the Cronoa vaccine comes out, you are going to be one of the jerks who refuses to take it because you think it's got nano-tracking alien dna implanting mind control parasites in it
Prove that it doesn't, retard.
But what if the mind control part of the vaccine is to cure systemic racism and reduces the number of unarmed minorities killed by police?
So you think it's ok to inject people with microchips? That's pretty dumb, even for your standards.
First off, I didn't offer an opinion, I asked a question.   Not knowing the difference is pretty dumb, even by your standards.

Secondly, since when do vaccines come in the form of a microchip? ???
First off, I didn't offer an opinion, I asked a question.   Not knowing the difference is pretty dumb, even by your standards.

Secondly, I didnt say they do I just asked for proof that they don't!

What would proof that vaccines don't come with microchips look like?

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« Reply #856 on: July 01, 2020, 05:11:27 PM »
Dns is throwing a fit because we banned him for his stupid nonsense.

Try not to take him too seriously.
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Re: Murder of George Floyd
« Reply #857 on: July 01, 2020, 08:03:11 PM »
Actually I do know what Socialism is, cause I lived in Soviet Union for 12 years. You hipsters however think that Socialism is somehow cool. Trust me it is not cool at all. Infect its pretty fucking bad. Try standing in line for 3 hours just to buy a pound of oranges. I have. Socialism caused poverty for the masses and makes elites very rich, this is why people like Hillary and Obama like it so much. They are not out to help you, they are out to enslave you. This is why they take you to stay home, practice social distancing and wear a mask. They want total control of your life much like Stalin, Mao and Castro did.

I live in a major American city and I actually went to hospitals and asked nurses and doctors how many Corona patients are coming in. In my city emergency rooms were empty in April and May. Also I found out that for every so called "Corona" patient the hospital gets 30.000 dollars. hmm I wonder why. I'm really amazed how the liberals wish you death if you don't wear their mask, what a nice people they are. But I'm not surprised, what do you expect from left wing thugs, I don't expect nothing but hate and indecency from them. So you can wish that I die, but I won't die and America won't die either, you won't take down our statues, you won't ban our way of life and if your boy Joe Biden gets in, he will throw you right under the bus, just watch.

You damn right I won't take any vaccine. My bible tells me that those wearing  the mark of the beast will not make it to heaven, so no thank you.
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« Reply #858 on: July 01, 2020, 08:45:10 PM »

I live in a major American city and I actually went to hospitals and asked nurses and doctors how many Corona patients are coming in.

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« Reply #859 on: July 01, 2020, 08:56:38 PM »
New Earth sounds like a lackey alt. He said the same BS.


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« Reply #860 on: July 01, 2020, 09:26:13 PM »
New Earth sounds like a lackey alt. He said the same BS.

But more religious.
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« Reply #861 on: July 01, 2020, 09:48:30 PM »
Wow.  You are unhinged.  When the Cronoa vaccine comes out, you are going to be one of the jerks who refuses to take it because you think it's got nano-tracking alien dna implanting mind control parasites in it
Prove that it doesn't, retard.
But what if the mind control part of the vaccine is to cure systemic racism and reduces the number of unarmed minorities killed by police?
So you think it's ok to inject people with microchips? That's pretty dumb, even for your standards.
First off, I didn't offer an opinion, I asked a question.   Not knowing the difference is pretty dumb, even by your standards.

Secondly, since when do vaccines come in the form of a microchip? ???
First off, I didn't offer an opinion, I asked a question.   Not knowing the difference is pretty dumb, even by your standards.

Secondly, I didnt say they do I just asked for proof that they don't!

What would proof that vaccines don't come with microchips look like?
Think about something. Burden of proof is on you.
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« Reply #862 on: July 01, 2020, 09:56:15 PM »
New earth, be specific or say nothing at all. What major American city are you talking about, and which specific hospitals did you visit?  If you want to sprout bullshit, expect to be treated as a bullshit artist.

You are told to social distance and stay home, to prevent the spread of a virus that kills. Ever heard of preservation of life? If everybody dies, there will be no countries for anybody TO govern, or as you put it, "enslave". Ever think of that, dumbo?

You think someone wearing a mask to protect themselves from the covid-19, is wearing the mark of the beast???? It's a "mask" they are wearing, not a fucking "mark"! But so long as YOU make it to heaven, ay new earth? Fuck everybody else, right? Well, guess what, your God frowns upon arrogance. Looks like those pearly gates you're chasing will instead be the gates of hell. I hope you like the summer time!

If you want a microchip, I'm sure your local vet would be happy to assist. A tracking device or microchip is not something small enough that it can be injected through a hypodermic needle.

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« Reply #863 on: July 02, 2020, 02:22:24 AM »
I live in a major American city and I actually went to hospitals and asked nurses and doctors how many Corona patients are coming in.
Translation: I watched some youtube videos.

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« Reply #864 on: July 02, 2020, 03:47:52 AM »
I live in a major American city and I actually went to hospitals and asked nurses and doctors how many Corona patients are coming in.

And of course the doctors have all the statistics at hand and tell them to a random retard (you) asking for it.
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« Reply #865 on: July 02, 2020, 06:22:12 AM »
Wow.  You are unhinged.  When the Cronoa vaccine comes out, you are going to be one of the jerks who refuses to take it because you think it's got nano-tracking alien dna implanting mind control parasites in it
Prove that it doesn't, retard.
But what if the mind control part of the vaccine is to cure systemic racism and reduces the number of unarmed minorities killed by police?
So you think it's ok to inject people with microchips? That's pretty dumb, even for your standards.
First off, I didn't offer an opinion, I asked a question.   Not knowing the difference is pretty dumb, even by your standards.

Secondly, since when do vaccines come in the form of a microchip? ???
First off, I didn't offer an opinion, I asked a question.   Not knowing the difference is pretty dumb, even by your standards.
I know.  It was a stupid question, which is why I chose not to dignify it with an answer.

Secondly, I didnt say they do I just asked for proof that they don't!
How does one prove a negative?
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« Reply #866 on: July 02, 2020, 06:45:15 AM »
How does one prove a negative?
A: 'I have no weapon in my hand'
B: 'proof it!'
A: 'shows hands'

It's that easy :)

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« Reply #867 on: July 02, 2020, 06:48:16 AM »
How does one prove a negative?
A: 'I have no weapon in my hand'
B: 'proof it!'
A: 'shows hands'

It's that easy :)

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I know.  It was a stupid question, which is why I chose not to dignify it with an answer.
I rather think you tried to be a smartass, but failed miserably.

So please tell us what you would accept as proof that vaccines don't contain microchip tracking mind control devices?

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« Reply #868 on: July 02, 2020, 06:57:02 AM »
Stop spamming this thread with vaccine microchip shit.
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« Reply #869 on: July 02, 2020, 08:35:34 AM »
How does one prove a negative?
A: 'I have no weapon in my hand'
B: 'proof it!'
A: 'shows hands'

It's that easy :)

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I know.  It was a stupid question, which is why I chose not to dignify it with an answer.
I rather think you tried to be a smartass, but failed miserably.

So please tell us what you would accept as proof that vaccines don't contain microchip tracking mind control devices?

Make a proposition. I'll then tell you.
 
@scg yeah you re right pls move the vaccine stuff to a seperate thread. In my position of not being an admin I'll allow you to do it  ::)
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