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Tar_Heel

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« on: January 27, 2007, 09:58:02 AM »
i still have a question, about the poor explanation of seasonal change.  in the second diagram, you have "winter in the north" "summer in the north"

if you're talking about the equator then Winter in N. America = Summer in Australia.  

typo? or just incompetence?
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TheEngineer

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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2007, 10:10:23 AM »
The diagram is fine.
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2007, 10:15:44 AM »
why is it winter in north america and summer in south america?
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2007, 10:24:19 AM »
Because that's how seasons work.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2007, 10:30:21 AM »
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Because that's how seasons work.


how can the same sun produce different seasons on the same longitude if the earth is just a flat disc?
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2007, 10:30:55 AM »
Read the FAQ.
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Tar_Heel

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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2007, 10:41:16 AM »
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Read the FAQ.


i watch espn, they show the Australian Open, court temps in 100s of degrees Farenheit,

it is SUMMER over there, WINTER here in the States, the diagram is WRONG! vindicate yourselves
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Tar_Heel

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2007, 10:45:00 AM »
by the way i have read your FAQ several times.  It mentions season but has no explanation of why winter in northern hemisphere = summer in southern hemisphere.


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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2007, 10:46:19 AM »
Look at the diagram.  It is correct.  You are the one who can't comprehend.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2007, 10:47:48 AM »
does this flat disc...

tilt to cause seasons
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2007, 11:09:46 AM »
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Look at the diagram.  It is correct.  You are the one who can't comprehend.

ok so maybe the diagram is correct but it doesn't address all issues.  like how does the Sun stay in these unnatural orbits that produces these seasons.  You're telling me the sun spins up and down a cone shaped orbit?  like a downward and upward spiral?  what keeps the sun in this orbit around the earth?

personally the globe tilting makes more sense.  the most simplest explanation is usually the most correct.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2007, 11:13:26 AM »
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the most simplest explanation is usually the most correct.

Hardly.  Have you ever studied Relativity or QM?
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2007, 11:14:16 AM »
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the most simplest explanation is usually the most correct


Then look out your window.
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Tar_Heel

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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2007, 11:32:09 AM »
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the most simplest explanation is usually the most correct.

Hardly.  Have you ever studied Relativity or QM?

enough to know that relativity is logical

the whole premise of "relativity" is very logical, the math is not however.  then again you guys hate math and logic
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2007, 11:33:07 AM »
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you guys hate math and logic

I don't.
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2007, 11:33:16 AM »
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the most simplest explanation is usually the most correct.

Hardly.  Have you ever studied Relativity or QM?

enough to know that relativity is logical

the whole premise of "relativity" is very logical, the math is not however.  then again you guys hate math and logic


if by hate you mean embrace the truth
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Globe Guy

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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2007, 11:33:46 AM »
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the most simplest explanation is usually the most correct


Then look out your window.

LOL
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Tar_Heel

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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2007, 11:34:17 AM »
also, good job ignoring my posts about the sun/seasons...

and attacking my 'the most simplest explanation is usually the most correct" line.  way to deflect, you slimey politicians
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2007, 02:44:20 PM »
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also, good job ignoring my posts about the sun/seasons...

and attacking my 'the most simplest explanation is usually the most correct" line.  way to deflect, you slimey politicians


Your concern was addressed.
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2007, 02:56:36 PM »
How this "sun of flat earth" radiates heat and light, stays in orbit, changes orbits regularly and remains invisible at night while shining light directly downward on a flat surface is a big interrogation mark.
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2007, 03:02:44 PM »
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Because that's how seasons work.
how can the same sun produce different seasons on the same longitude if the earth is just a flat disc?

More light reflects off the surfaces at longitudes a greater distance from the Sun because the inclination angle is less.  As well, there is a lower energy density reaching each unit of surface area further from the sun, and thus less heat is absorbed by the surface.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2007, 03:04:36 PM »
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How this "sun of flat earth" radiates heat and light, stays in orbit, changes orbits regularly and remains invisible at night while shining light directly downward on a flat surface is a big interrogation mark.


The sun is not in orbit.
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phaseshifter

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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2007, 03:13:32 PM »
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How this "sun of flat earth" radiates heat and light, stays in orbit, changes orbits regularly and remains invisible at night while shining light directly downward on a flat surface is a big interrogation mark.


The sun is not in orbit.


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In physics, an orbit is the path that an object makes around another object while under the influence of a source of centripetal force, such as gravity


Please have a look at the sun and moon in the FE model and stop saying nonsense.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2007, 03:15:08 PM »
Perhaps you should read the FAQ again. Better yet, read the book "Earth not a Globe."
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phaseshifter

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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2007, 03:28:43 PM »
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Perhaps you should read the FAQ again. Better yet, read the book "Earth not a Globe."


I don't need to read the faq, I just told you that the sun and moon in FE circle the same axis, which constitute an orbit. The FE map in your all powerful FAQ shows this.
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Tar_Heel

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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2007, 03:36:30 PM »
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How this "sun of flat earth" radiates heat and light, stays in orbit, changes orbits regularly and remains invisible at night while shining light directly downward on a flat surface is a big interrogation mark.


The sun is not in orbit.


so how is night and day created?

one or your mods told me of the "flashlight" analogy which still doesn't cover everything
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2007, 03:47:21 PM »
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I just told you that the sun and moon in FE circle the same axis, which constitute an orbit.


Did you read the definition of "orbit" before (or after) you posted it?  What you are saying right here is not within your definition of "orbit."  Thus, logically, one could say that the sun is NOT in orbit in the FE model.  

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« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2007, 08:29:00 AM »
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I just told you that the sun and moon in FE circle the same axis, which constitute an orbit.


Did you read the definition of "orbit" before (or after) you posted it?  What you are saying right here is not within your definition of "orbit."  Thus, logically, one could say that the sun is NOT in orbit in the FE model.  

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In physics, an orbit is the path that an object makes around another object while under the influence of a source of centripetal force, such as gravity


Could you explain how it is not within the definition?
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