Downtime

We experienced downtime due to our hosting provider moving our IP without advance notice.

Glad it's solved, I was worried that the site might have been taken down by criminals.

That's accurate in a sense.

HEY! WE’RE BACK! Thanks for getting the lights turned back on JD.

Interesting.  We seem to be missing a lot of the posts from yesterday.

Interesting.  We seem to be missing a lot of the posts from yesterday.

I’m missing posts. It sucks to lose the work.

I had fear that goverment guys shut this site in order to remove flat Earth proof (so we don't notice)


And are downtimes like this happening in other sites?

Occasionally.  But more often here.

Occasionally.  But more often here.

That didn't help my situation. Maybie goverment guys clean some "flat Earth best proof" messages in that times?

Why don't they tell us that they are moving our IP?

I'll try to find out what's up with the missing posts. I assume it has to do with us having our servers moved.

I'll try to find out what's up with the missing posts. I assume it has to do with us having our servers moved.

There are posts removed? I was just assuming and hypotheticising

And my PM messiage which I saw (i think so) was labeled as "new". Maybie we are moved "back in time"

Also I need to move to aws at some point instead of our janky ass webserver. I just don't have the time.

I am asking because folks mentioned it here:

Quote from: Crouton on May 20, 2020, 08:05:03 AM

Interesting.  We seem to be missing a lot of the posts from yesterday.

I’m missing posts. It sucks to lose the work.

Also I need to move to aws at some point instead of our janky ass webserver. I just don't have the time.

I am asking because folks mentioned it here:

Quote from: sokarul on May 20, 2020, 08:09:29 AM

Quote from: Crouton on May 20, 2020, 08:05:03 AM

Interesting.  We seem to be missing a lot of the posts from yesterday.

I’m missing posts. It sucks to lose the work.

Did that happen last time? And does thath happen to other sites?

I was just noticing the missing post phenomenon myself. It appears it has already been mentioned, so I will just add to the chorus of voices saying that I also noticed some of my own posts are gone. I received PMs from some other members with the same concern.

Edit to add: ANOTHER INTERESTING PLOT TWIST. I just noticed a spam post that I remember removing was back. I removed it again. But it sure looks like we reverted to a snapshot of the database from shortly before the outage.

Yeah, we're only missing an hour or two of posts from what I can tell. We'll survive! We will not let the penguins win!

Quote from: John Davis on May 20, 2020, 09:15:58 AM

I'll try to find out what's up with the missing posts. I assume it has to do with us having our servers moved.

There are posts removed? I was just assuming and hypotheticising

I wouldn't call it removed, just missing.
Basically it appears that the site was copied to another physical server (based upon John saying a new IP), which copied the database in the state it was in at that time.

People then made more posts (or removed spam posts) on the original server but not on the new server, which then switched off. Now we are on the new server without access to the last posts made on the old server as they weren't copied across.

Either that or something happened to the site such that the database was corrupted, and it got restored to a backup.

I'm disappointed that posts have gone.

As for it happening to other sites, it depends how big they are and how good the host is.
Very large sites like youtube and Google pretty much don't have it happen and when it does they lose very little. That is because they have multiple servers which constantly send data to each other. So if one dies, it would just be no more than the last second or so.

For sites that live on a single server, when it is moved you typically shut the site down so no more database transactions can occur, move it and then turn the site back on. That way no transactions are lost.

But some hosts can be even worse, with no backups at all, so a problem means you lose everything.

By the way this is what happened.

They moved the site to their new host.
They updated the DNS
Our DNS was still pointing to the old host which stayed live while they copied our huge database and other accounts on that box.
People posted to the old host.
Old host went down, we had downtime.
DNS was updated to the new server, which didn't have these posts.

I have asked again to be notified when this happens.