Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #750 on: March 08, 2021, 04:48:15 AM »
Even now, microbiologists everywhere have no idea what is going on. They cannot explain the emerging new strains, especially the P.1 variant.

Sure they can.  It only seems that way to you because you are fixated on your anti-vax conspiracy nonsense.

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« Reply #751 on: March 08, 2021, 05:01:41 AM »
Sure they can.

They cannot. Viruses become less pathogenic, not more so. They cannot even explain how the B.1.1.7 strain has spread so quickly everywhere.

The P.1 variant has baffled virologists.

It only seems that way to you because you are fixated on your anti-vax conspiracy nonsense.

I said from the very start that I am in favor of the BCG vaccine which has bacteriophages.

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« Reply #752 on: March 08, 2021, 06:50:12 AM »


Even now, microbiologists everywhere have no idea what is going on. They cannot explain the emerging new strains, especially the P.1 variant.


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More recently it was reported in the mainstream press that two variants of concern B.1.1.7 UK variant and the California B.1.429 variant may have combined their genomes to form a heavily mutated hybrid version of the virus, with properties yet to be determined.



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« Reply #753 on: March 08, 2021, 01:01:25 PM »

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« Reply #754 on: March 09, 2021, 05:43:12 AM »
Now, there is no turning back.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/winter-normal-vaccine-biontech-pfizer-ugur-sahin-b70845.html

"If high vaccination rates are achieved by autumn 2021, “we could have a normal winter next year”".

The research for the mRNA/adenovirus vaccines was carried out for the original Wuhan strain, at most for the D614G variant. Not in any case for the B.1.1.7, B.1.429, B.1.351, P.1, B.1.525, B.1.258 variants. This means that the vaccination program administered worldwide is valid only for a strain which no longer is active or present.

"The B.1.1.7 variant accounts for approximately 96% percent of all new COVID-19 infections recorded in the United Kingdom."

The authorities in Eastern Europe are completely clueless as to the origin of the P.1 and B.1.351 strains on their territories. The persons who were tested for new variants did not travel outside of their respective countries, let alone travel to South Africa or to Brazil.

Right now, the communication channel between M. avium in the people who got vaccinated and M. avium in the atmosphere is open one way. What is going to happen once a more powerful pathogenic agent shows up in the atmosphere from the cometary dust emitted by comet Encke and starts to send electromagnetic imprints of itself to M. avium on the ground?

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« Reply #755 on: March 09, 2021, 05:49:48 AM »
Nothing is going to happen because comet dust does not contain SARS-COV-2 or any other virus or bacteria.
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« Reply #756 on: March 09, 2021, 06:02:30 AM »
So you agree with this: "if high vaccination rates are achieved by autumn 2021, we could have a normal winter next year”.

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« Reply #757 on: March 09, 2021, 06:25:13 AM »
So you agree with this: "if high vaccination rates are achieved by autumn 2021, we could have a normal winter next year”.

Yes, that's how vaccination works.

If a sufficient number of us are vaccinated, and if that process proves efficacious, we very well could have a "normal" winter this year.
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« Reply #758 on: March 09, 2021, 07:53:32 AM »
Right now, the communication channel between M. avium in the people who got vaccinated and M. avium in the atmosphere is open one way. What is going to happen once a more powerful pathogenic agent shows up in the atmosphere from the cometary dust emitted by comet Encke and starts to send electromagnetic imprints of itself to M. avium on the ground?

Probably the same thing that will happen when baby dragons living in shoeboxes under my bed emerge to devour all our eyeballs.

Nothing.

Because that's what happens with made up fantasies.  Nothing.

Do you really worry about magic pixie space dust infecting people?  ::)

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« Reply #759 on: March 09, 2021, 08:50:40 AM »
The research for the mRNA/adenovirus vaccines was carried out for the original Wuhan strain, at most for the D614G variant. Not in any case for the B.1.1.7, B.1.429, B.1.351, P.1, B.1.525, B.1.258 variants. This means that the vaccination program administered worldwide is valid only for a strain which no longer is active or present.

All of the vaccines have and are being tested against the variants out there with varying levels of efficacy documented. You are wrong.
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« Reply #760 on: March 09, 2021, 12:54:01 PM »
So you agree with this: "if high vaccination rates are achieved by autumn 2021, we could have a normal winter next year”.
Winter 2021-2022 yes. We will see though with all the variants.

In other news, the movie Maximum Overdrive was science fiction. Just thought I would let you know.

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #761 on: March 09, 2021, 01:51:40 PM »
The research for the mRNA/adenovirus vaccines was carried out for the original Wuhan strain, at most for the D614G variant. Not in any case for the B.1.1.7, B.1.429, B.1.351, P.1, B.1.525, B.1.258 variants. This means that the vaccination program administered worldwide is valid only for a strain which no longer is active or present.

All of the vaccines have and are being tested against the variants out there with varying levels of efficacy documented. You are wrong.

Keep your fiction for somewhere else.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14275813/brazil-covid-mutant-unstoppable/

The vaccines are useless against the P.1 strain. If a new third booster shot will be developed, then the first vaccination program becomes superfluous.

Here is a most mysterious public comment from last year:

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/im-going-to-get-it-we-all-are-njs-top-health-official-says-as-she-leads-the-states-coronavirus-war.html

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #762 on: March 09, 2021, 02:57:25 PM »
The research for the mRNA/adenovirus vaccines was carried out for the original Wuhan strain, at most for the D614G variant. Not in any case for the B.1.1.7, B.1.429, B.1.351, P.1, B.1.525, B.1.258 variants. This means that the vaccination program administered worldwide is valid only for a strain which no longer is active or present.

All of the vaccines have and are being tested against the variants out there with varying levels of efficacy documented. You are wrong.

Keep your fiction for somewhere else.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14275813/brazil-covid-mutant-unstoppable/

The vaccines are useless against the P.1 strain. If a new third booster shot will be developed, then the first vaccination program becomes superfluous.

Your article doesn't say vaccines are "useless". It's certainly questionable exactly how effective they are on new strains, but that's the deal - The faster we vax the less likely more mutations will arise. Brazil's problem seems twofold:

- Bad messaging - From your article, "Experts say Brazil's Covid policy is in disarray as anti-mask president Jair Bolsonaro leaves it to local leaders to fight the pandemic."

- They screwed up their vax program - From your article: "We have reached an unimaginable level of doom. It is very important that the population understands the risk."
It comes as the country's faltering vaccine program was hit by fresh delays.
Doses of the AstraZeneca jab are being bottled by local company Fiocruz, using imported shipments of the active pharmaceutical ingredients.
But a technical fault was found in the machine that seals the glass vials, setting production back by around 18 days, O Globo reports.
The scheme is supposed to deliver more than 100million doses by June."


Here is a most mysterious public comment from last year:

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/im-going-to-get-it-we-all-are-njs-top-health-official-says-as-she-leads-the-states-coronavirus-war.html

I don't see anything "mysterious". She quips a year ago that we're all going to get it. Well, I felt the same way a year ago. No mystery there.
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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #763 on: March 09, 2021, 09:33:05 PM »
The faster we vax the less likely more mutations will arise.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

The new strain D614G appeared exactly in March 2020, exactly after the first trial vaccines were administered.

The first powerful new strains then emerged exactly in the countries which used the trial vaccines the most: UK, SA, Brazil.

So, the faster you vax, the more mutations there will be. If a new third shot will be administered, there will be even further mutations/strains (more powerful than what the world is dealing with right now). Furthermore, reassortment viruses will appear.

Listen to the experts: the vaccination program started the mutations. Had M. avium been left alone, covid-19 would have been over by spring 2020.

According to concerns raised by a senior scientist at Oxford University, the global rollout of COVID-19 vaccines may lead to mutations in the virus caused by immunological selection.
Based on the observations made on COVID-19 virus mutations, Professor Sir John Bell has informed that the virus is mutating in order to be more effective in its new hosts, that is humans.

“Most of the variants we have seen so far represent that kind of adaptation to a new species; it’s a bit like moving into a new apartment, you are shuffling the sofa around and making sure the TV is in the right place,” Bell told colleagues and lawmakers.

“What we will see between now and the end of the year is a number of variants which are driven by immunological selection, largely by the vaccines, and that will add another layer of complexity.”

Bell also added that people are getting reinfected by the Brazilian and South African strains as these strains are resistant to the immunity that we have developed against previous COVID-19 virus strains.

The Financial Times warns the Brazil-variant of the virus has been found to evade natural immunity.

The P. 1 Covid-19 variant that originated in Brazil and has spread to more than 25 countries is around twice as transmissible as some other strains and is more likely to evade the natural immunity people usually develop from prior infection, according to a new international study.

It was also “able to evade 25-61 per cent of protective immunity elicited by previous infection” with any earlier variant, the researchers found, in a sign that current vaccines could also be less effective against it.


Let us now compare what Professor Bell is saying.

On one hand:

Professor Sir John Bell has informed that the virus is mutating in order to be more effective in its new hosts, that is humans.

“What we will see between now and the end of the year is a number of variants which are driven by immunological selection, largely by the vaccines, and that will add another layer of complexity.”


Then, if the virus is mutating and adding new layers of complexity it would make more sense to stop the entire vaccination program, right?


On the other hand:

It does appear that the existing vaccines are able to prevent severe disease.
'We need to be conscious of the new variants, we need to be ready to make new vaccines if we need them, but I am pretty clear our existing vaccines are going to work to some extent,' he said."


How are the vaccines going to work if they are behind the emergence of the new strains? If new layers of complexity are added by the vaccines themselves, most definitely the vaccines will no longer be able to offer any protection whatsoever. NEW vaccines are going to be needed for the new strains. But these NEW vaccines will also add more layers of complexities, that is, they will become useless almost immediately.


Viruses tend to become less pathogenic. If this is not happening to SARS-Cov-2 then something else very ominous is going on. Even the 1918-1919 Spanish flu was over after the pandemic took its toll for a single year. What is going on does not make any sense, unless we are dealing with leaky vaccines, which allow the mycobacteria (and the passenger viruses) to thrive and to become more pathogenic.


Vaccinations do cause strains.

https://www.francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/covid-19-questions-sur-les-vaccins

Mais patatras, voilà que l’Académie de médecine s’y met, et maladroitement, car son explication pour ne pas différer la seconde injection, remet dans le circuit le risque de mutations dues aux vaccins. Outre le fait que « le retard peut faire en sorte que des anticorps facilitants créés pourrait exacerber la Covid-19 », le communiqué indique aussi que « le faible niveau d’immunité (après la primo-vaccination) constituera un terrain favorable pour sélectionner l’émergence d’un ou de plusieurs variants échappant à l’immunité induite par la vaccination ». Cela a été répété par Yves Buisson rapporteur, sur France Info.

Seconde question : y a-t-il un lien entre vaccins et derniers mutants ? Le communiqué de l’Académie de médecine dit que c’est possible, et des faits me troublent.

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/maladie/coronavirus/vaccin/vaccins-contre-le-covid-19-en-espacant-les-deux-doses-de-vaccin-on-risque-d-avoir-des-mutations-du-virus-alerte-un-professeur-de-medecine_4255067.html

By spacing the two doses of vaccine, "we risk having mutations" of the virus, alerted Tuesday, January 12 on franceinfo, Professor Yves Buisson of the National Academy of Medicine, president of the Covid-19 cell .

In addition to the fact that "the delay may ensure that facilitating antibodies created could exacerbate Covid-19", the press release also indicates that "the low level of immunity (after the primary vaccination) will constitute a favorable ground for selecting the 'emergence of one or more variants escaping immunity induced by vaccination'.

Second question: is there a link between vaccines and the latest mutants? The press release from the Academy of Medicine says it is possible, and I am troubled by the facts.


Now listen to this.

"New Jersey-based Merck, one of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies, has just abandoned its two experimental COVID vaccine projects after early data showed they generated little, if any, immune response in patients."

"After evaluating the data, Merck's leadership team decided to scrap the vax effort and focus resources on COVID treatments instead."

Why would they be focusing on treatments when the vaccine will make them unnecessary?
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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #764 on: March 10, 2021, 12:10:48 AM »
Here is what happened, just the other day, in BC:

"As new COVID cases tumble across North America, sleepy British Columbia has just reported a new outbreak of the virus at a nursing home in the province where both staff members and patients had already been vaccinated.

According to the CBC, a new outbreak of COVID-19 has been declared at the Cottonwoods Care Center, located in the Interior Health region. BC's provincial health officer first acknowledged the outbreak yesterday.

Dr. Henry said two staff members and 10 residents have tested positive at the Cottonwoods facility, which is a long-term care home with 221 publicly-funded beds. Henry said that all staff and residents at the home were offered immunizations and that there was very high uptake of the vaccine. She said some of the cases were among people who had received two doses of the vaccine."

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were developed based on the original coronavirus strain as discovered and genetically sequenced in Wuhan, China. Not for the D614G strain. Not for the B.1.1.7, B.1.351, P.1 variants.

https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/australian-federal-health-minister-greg-hunt-hospitalized-after-receiving-experimental-covid-vaccine/


All of the vaccines have and are being tested against the variants out there with varying levels of efficacy documented.

Efficacy is the number you get from a clinical trial. Effectiveness is what the number is once you’re vaccinating millions more people. The P.1 strain renders all of the vaccines useless.
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« Reply #765 on: March 10, 2021, 01:17:05 AM »
https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/04/peter-doshi-pfizer-and-modernas-95-effective-vaccines-we-need-more-details-and-the-raw-data/

With 20 times more suspected than confirmed cases, this category of disease cannot be ignored simply because there was no positive PCR test result. Indeed this makes it all the more urgent to understand. A rough estimate of vaccine efficacy against developing covid-19 symptoms, with or without a positive PCR test result, would be a relative risk reduction of 19% (see footnote)—far below the 50% effectiveness threshold for authorization set by regulators. Even after removing cases occurring within 7 days of vaccination (409 on Pfizer’s vaccine vs. 287 on placebo), which should include the majority of symptoms due to short-term vaccine reactogenicity, vaccine efficacy remains low: 29% (see footnote).

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/Dr.-Lee-Amended-Reply-Final.pdf

In the matter of efficacy evaluation of the Pfizer’s mRNA vaccine for COVID-19
prevention

The re-testing is especially crucial to support the claimed 95% vaccine efficacy in view of an alternative calculation showing that the vaccine efficacy is actually between 19% and 29%, [48] a figure much lower than the 95% as claimed.

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« Reply #766 on: March 10, 2021, 02:39:52 AM »
Have independent efficacy tests been done for the B.1.351 and P.1 strains? Yes, by top researchers. Here are the results:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.14.21251704v1.full.pdf

More information on the efficacy of the mRNA tests (see also the previous message):

https://www.thennt.com/review-covid-analysis-2020/

What we are concerned about: We are very concerned about data mentioned exclusively in an FDA briefing document (p.42) describing 3410 ‘suspected but unconfirmed’ cases of COVID-19, including 1594 vaccine and 1816 placebo subjects. This statistic points to a critical, but missing, datapoint: the number tested for COVID-19 in each group. As per the study protocol (p89) all subjects should have been tested. However, neither the published manuscript nor the FDA document describes how many in each group were tested.

In a sensitivity analysis presuming all ‘suspected’ cases were COVID-19 (while removing those developing symptoms within 7 days of injection due to overlap with vaccine side effects), vaccine efficacy would drop significantly. The trial COVID-19 infection rate would be 6.6% in the vaccine group and 9.2% in the placebo group (with a vaccine efficacy of 29%).

This is an implausible worst-case scenario. After all, it is unlikely all suspected cases were COVID-19, and equally unlikely 9% of placebo subjects contracted the disease in a period of two months. But the analysis raises a point: all suspected cases should have been tested for COVID-19. The language in the FDA document implies they were not. If ‘suspected but unconfirmed’ cases all had a negative test then the FDA document is written clumsily. No harm, no foul. However, some subjects were tested (8 in the vaccine group, for instance, and 162 in the placebo group, were found to be positive). The question is how many in each group were tested to find these positives, the study’s main result. If the trial was conducted properly an equal proportion of suspected cases were tested in each group. We hope and believe this was the case. But transparency on this issue is necessary—without it, sensitivity analyses like the one above will represent legitimate concerns.

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« Reply #767 on: March 10, 2021, 03:05:08 AM »
Do you have time to post those papers 10 more times?
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« Reply #768 on: March 10, 2021, 07:53:18 AM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/09/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

“ Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine may neutralize Brazil variant, lab study finds, as experts warn of rapid spread”
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« Reply #769 on: March 10, 2021, 08:06:25 AM »
Right now, the communication channel between M. avium in the people who got vaccinated and M. avium in the atmosphere is open one way. What is going to happen once a more powerful pathogenic agent shows up in the atmosphere from the cometary dust emitted by comet Encke and starts to send electromagnetic imprints of itself to M. avium on the ground?

Probably the same thing that will happen when baby dragons living in shoeboxes under my bed emerge to devour all our eyeballs.

Nothing.

Because that's what happens with made up fantasies.  Nothing.

Do you really worry about magic pixie space dust infecting people?  ::)

I'd be worried about all the permafrost in Siberia and Greenland melting from climate change leading to a release of exotic or prehistoric viruses myself

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170504-there-are-diseases-hidden-in-ice-and-they-are-waking-up


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« Reply #770 on: March 10, 2021, 10:17:27 AM »
Right now, the communication channel between M. avium in the people who got vaccinated and M. avium in the atmosphere is open one way. What is going to happen once a more powerful pathogenic agent shows up in the atmosphere from the cometary dust emitted by comet Encke and starts to send electromagnetic imprints of itself to M. avium on the ground?

Probably the same thing that will happen when baby dragons living in shoeboxes under my bed emerge to devour all our eyeballs.

Nothing.

Because that's what happens with made up fantasies.  Nothing.

Do you really worry about magic pixie space dust infecting people?  ::)

I'd be worried about all the permafrost in Siberia and Greenland melting from climate change leading to a release of exotic or prehistoric viruses myself

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170504-there-are-diseases-hidden-in-ice-and-they-are-waking-up

Great, now we're bookended by comet carrying disease and ancient buried pathogens. There's no winning.
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« Reply #771 on: March 10, 2021, 03:14:41 PM »
Right now, the communication channel between M. avium in the people who got vaccinated and M. avium in the atmosphere is open one way. What is going to happen once a more powerful pathogenic agent shows up in the atmosphere from the cometary dust emitted by comet Encke and starts to send electromagnetic imprints of itself to M. avium on the ground?

Probably the same thing that will happen when baby dragons living in shoeboxes under my bed emerge to devour all our eyeballs.

Nothing.

Because that's what happens with made up fantasies.  Nothing.

Do you really worry about magic pixie space dust infecting people?  ::)

I'd be worried about all the permafrost in Siberia and Greenland melting from climate change leading to a release of exotic or prehistoric viruses myself

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170504-there-are-diseases-hidden-in-ice-and-they-are-waking-up

I too worry about things that are real.  I don't worry about the imaginary stuff.

To be honest though, the dragons under my bed are starting to concern me.

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« Reply #773 on: March 11, 2021, 08:01:12 AM »
Yes. It would be better to do things correctly rather than incorrectly.
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« Reply #774 on: March 12, 2021, 11:09:38 AM »
I had a slight fever and a cold and my nose was wet while I was coughing. I also had a headache and a sore throat. And pain in the neck. And I felt weak. I called for an ambulance, which didn't come. Everyone was dead of Covid-19.

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« Reply #775 on: March 12, 2021, 01:07:22 PM »

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« Reply #776 on: March 13, 2021, 02:07:09 AM »
Masks are useful if and only if the pathogenic agent is spread through droplets (when a person sneezes, coughs). Masks did stop the seasonal flu. Certainly a live experiment should be carried out to see exactly if masks can stop particles which are very small; if not, masks should not be worn at all.

The principal mode of transmission for covid-19 (M. avium/sars-cov-x passenger virus) is through the atmosphere: an invisible rain of mycobacterium which cannot be stopped. In such a case masks are useless.

That is why, no matter how many people wear masks, the pandemic has increased exponentially: where there were 100 daily cases last year, now there are 5.000 daily cases reported (Eastern Europe). Masks cannot stop the mycobacterium from the atmosphere: they are useful only if the pathogenic agent is spread person to person (droplets).

No matter where and when the wearing of the masks program was implemented, the number of cases has increased exponentially. Yet, flu cases have almost disappeared. This means that masks had a significant impact in stopping the flu because indeed the mode of transmission is person to person. But the same masks cannot stop a pathogenic agent which pours down on everyone from the atmosphere.

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« Reply #777 on: March 13, 2021, 02:29:51 AM »
If the bacteria is in the atmosphere why has it not afflicted all countries equally? Australia stamps out the virus any time it pops up and masks being made mandatory along with people keeping their distance and hand hygiene etc have contributed to our almost elimination of it within the community

I'm out and about a lot. So is everyone else in my state. We don't even wear masks here because covid is not here (touch wood). But if you take a look at the countries who took the threat serious, such as those in South East Asia an Oceania, we mostly go about business as usual (and South Korea which is densely populated is VERY switched on when it comes to masks, hand sanitizer stations literally everywhere, QR code tracking etc and they aren't afflicted like the Americas or Europe

It seems the countries worst affected are ones that have allowed freedom of movement and lax about wearing masks. (eg if you enter Australia, quarantine was mandatory (and we saw a lot of overseas arrivals afflicted with covid that did not spread in our community - had we not quarantined arrivals, we would be dropping dead like Americans). So seems to me this is people to people transmission primarily. In which case, keeping away from people and their spittle seems like a pretty good idea to avoid covid

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sandokhan

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #778 on: March 13, 2021, 03:01:51 AM »
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

Same kind of graphic as for other countries.

Only some 80,000 Australians have received the vaccines so far. The vaccination program only started in late February 2021.

If the M. avium really do come from the atmosphere, Australia will see a dramatic increase in the number of cases as more and more people get vaccinated. The M. avium from the atmosphere is attracted by the HeLa cells in the persons who received the mRNA/adenovirus vaccinations.

Moreover, Australia had a huge bushfire season in 2020, and is happening again in 2021:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/here-we-go-again-australia-on-high-alert-as-fire-season-kicks-off-early/OJBVJ7RRLE5EM2LI6O27QBRANA/

I believe that these fires were a factor in repelling the M. avium from reaching the surface; we will see what happens with the vaccination program which just got underway.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/ (same problems as everyone else)

"It seems the countries worst affected are ones that have allowed freedom of movement and lax about wearing masks."

Not true. The Czechs obeyed the masks mandates, so did the French. It did not help them at all.



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sandokhan

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