Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #510 on: February 26, 2021, 09:15:36 AM »
I love this covid-19 hoax. Some Chinese found a virus 2019 that nobody had heard of and, instead of killing it on the spot, spilled it in the toilet, so it - the covid virus - could kill us all a few days later. And then 10 different medical (LOL) companies in record time developed a vaxxine that would protect idiots from getting killed, unless they paid being injected by this secret vaxxine to survive. >500 000 Americans have been killed by the covid virus all the fault of D. Trump sleeping in the White House. They didn't vaxxine themselves.

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« Reply #511 on: February 26, 2021, 10:21:25 AM »
I love this covid-19 hoax. Some Chinese found a virus 2019 that nobody had heard of and, instead of killing it on the spot, spilled it in the toilet, so it - the covid virus - could kill us all a few days later. And then 10 different medical (LOL) companies in record time developed a vaxxine that would protect idiots from getting killed, unless they paid being injected by this secret vaxxine to survive. >500 000 Americans have been killed by the covid virus all the fault of D. Trump sleeping in the White House. They didn't vaxxine themselves.

I don't even again.

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« Reply #512 on: February 26, 2021, 11:13:47 PM »
These charts should make the RE very happy:



This is in contrast to the BofA simulation:



"Well, not any more.

According to BofA chief credit strategist, the latest update to University of Washington’s IHME Covid-19 model shows a dramatic improvement in the trajectory for the US Covid-19 situation between now and the summer."



"In short: even with new mutant versions, thanks to vaccinations and the ascent of herd immunity, Covid may be a distant memory by the summer. "

So, everything is fine now.

Right?

How long do you think it took BioNTech to design the mRNA vaccine? Perhaps 7-10 years? No.

Surely they devoted a whole year to study the effects of this new vaccine. No. Not even one month, or a few weeks. Not even a single day.

The vaccine was designed in a couple of hours:

https://greatgameindia.com/covid-19-vaccine-ugur-sahin/

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« Reply #513 on: February 27, 2021, 04:53:29 AM »
How long do you think it took BioNTech to design the mRNA vaccine? Perhaps 7-10 years? No.

Surely they devoted a whole year to study the effects of this new vaccine. No. Not even one month, or a few weeks. Not even a single day.

The vaccine was designed in a couple of hours:

https://greatgameindia.com/covid-19-vaccine-ugur-sahin/

Yes, isn't science and technology amazing? We work hard for years and years to develop new techniques that let us do things faster and better once we perfect them.

It used to take a long time to make a car by hand, then Ford introduced the assembly line. This is how technological advancement works.

From your article...

Even, Moderna’s coronavirus vaccine also took just two days to design.

The reason both vaccines were designed so quickly was because of the technology they rely on: messenger RNA, or mRNA.

The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) had never approved an mRNA-based vaccine or treatment before. But now the agency has granted authorization to Pfizer’s and BioNTech’s mRNA based vaccines designed in a day for the first time.

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« Reply #514 on: February 27, 2021, 08:42:29 AM »
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Worst case scenario[/b]: we find ourselves at the end of a world age, and more dangerous pathogens are coming down from the atmosphere (comet Encke); these pathogenic agents will use the HeLa cells in the vaccinated people as beacons to close in and come to the help of M. avium, and to spread everywhere else afterwards; it is even possible that M. africanum is receiving the S.O.S. signal emitted by M. avium and it will cross its natural boundary and come to its aid.

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« Reply #515 on: February 27, 2021, 06:23:44 PM »
You haven't done your homework.

Bacteria communicate through radio waves:

https://www.technologyreview.com/2011/04/25/119002/how-bacteria-could-generate-radio-waves/

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1104.3113.pdf
Radio waves are not quantum entanglement. Furthermore the source states they don't know if information it being transmitted. Plus it doen't claim "E coli wirelessly contacts other bacteria to attack a host".
I don't know why you make such outlandish claims. 

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What are the quanta of radio waves? That's right, photons. Quantum level particles.

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/84198-bacteria-might-communicate-using-radio-waves
I have been trying to teach you about photons for years. You suddenly can't just believe in them. You have to except colors exist as well as the atom model that goes along with photons. 

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None other than Nobel prize winner, L. Montagnier, is telling you that you have no idea what you are talking about:

http://sphq.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/etudes_Montagnier_Electro-signals-produced-by-aqueous-DNA.pdf
This article i seven less on your side. You clearly cant understand scientific papers. That one is talking about EM transmission in the same way florescence works. Energy is first put in before energy comes out.

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HeLa cells communicate through radio waves.
Still no.

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But HeLa cells also are quantum entangled through brownian motion:

HeLa cell lines brownian motion:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/249997455_Intracellular_viscoelasticity_of_HeLa_cells_during_cell_division_studied_by_video_particle-tracking_microrheology

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006349514008947

And just like that you jump to more outlandish conclusions. Brownian moton effects all things. The samller the particle is the more it plays a part. From your link:
"The Brownian motion of the intracellular nanoprobes was analyzed to compute the viscoelasticity of HeLa cells in terms of the elastic modulus and viscous modulus as a function of frequency." Translation. The nanoprobes move around due to Brownian motion so they can see them move. What you claim is absolute trash.



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Brownian entanglement

https://cds.cern.ch/record/811651/files/0412132.pdf

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41534-020-0243-y

Cool. Has nothing to do with your incorrect use of Brownian motion.


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Now, the mycobacterium have a high speed wireless internet connection to communicate with each other.
No.

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Every statement I have made is true.

Mycobacterium are now communicating with their more powerful relatives: B. anthracis and M. africanum.
Once again the stupidest argument made this year.

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In some 12 months these pathogenic agents will come to the aid of M. avium. This is what operation warp speed has done. Not to mention the fact that all of the new powerful strains have been caused by the vaccination program. How do you explain the presence of B.1.1.7 in Eastern Europe? All over the place? That's right, M. avium are using the HeLa cells network to mutate continuously.
Vaccines didn't cause the worrisome strains we see today.

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If nothing else, read Montagnier's paper. You might learn something.

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A novel property of DNA is described: the capacity of some bacterial DNA sequences to induce electromagnetic waves at high aqueous dilutions. It appears to be a resonance phenomenon triggered by the ambient electromagnetic background of very low frequency waves. The genomic DNA of most pathogenic bacteria contains sequences which are able to generate such signals. This opens the way to the development of highly sensitive detection system for chronic bacterial infections in human and animal diseases.
Yes, equal to florescence. Nothing to do with communication to other batira for information transmission.


STOP JUMPING TO SUCH OUTLANDISH CONCLUSIONS. This is the story of your life.
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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #516 on: February 27, 2021, 10:06:14 PM »
A Nobel prize winner are telling you that you are wrong.

Montagnier's experiment can be summarised as follows:

A known water sample with 2 ng/ml of 104 bases DNA from an HIV infected patient is diluted by 10 into water and agitated for 15 seconds. After filtration to remove the DNA, the dilution and agitation steps are repeated 10 times, reaching high dilution levels of 10^−10.

The highly diluted sample emits electromagnetic signals (EMS) of low frequencies.

This EMS is recorded by a microphone coil and saved as a 6-second WAV file at the lab in Paris.

The WAV file is emailed to a partner team at the university of Benevento in Italy.

The Italian team emits with a coil for 1 hour the EMS of the WAV file on a sample of distilled water in a sealed metal tube.

The water sample is then placed in a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) machine.

The PCR machine in Italy produces DNA, 98% identical to the initial DNA in Paris.


The experiment was first made in July 2005, and was repeated and filmed for a TV documentary in 2013, released on the French channel France 5 on 5 July 2014.


https://arxiv.org/abs/1501.01620

Transduction of DNA information through water and electromagnetic waves

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1501.01620.pdf

The quantum field theoretical analysis of the phenomenon points to the crucial role played by coherent molecular dynamics.


The problem has been that Montagnier showed that when compared to pure water, samples chockfull of bacteria, emitted more radio waves, and no one could explain why.

Researchers have known for years that some bacteria do communicate via nanowires, which led Widom and his team to conclude that it wasn’t so farfetched to believe more highly developed bacteria, such as E. coli or Mycoplasma pirum, might instead communicate via wireless medium.

It’s likely these new findings will incite others to look a little deeper, however, as the main argument for rejecting Montagnier’s findings back in 2009, was that bacteria lacked a means for generating radio signals; an assertion that has now been overthrown.


More importantly, though, if simple organisms can communicate using radio waves — and have been communicating using radio waves for billions of years — it would shake the entire bedrock of modern science. Montagnier’s work suggests that cells can send electromagnetic imprints of itself to other, remote cells, but why stop there? If human cells also communicate using radio waves, we might be able to create a digital, silicon-based interface for ‘hacking’ our physiological infrastructure.


Montagnier’s work suggests that cells can send electromagnetic imprints of itself to other, remote cells.


The principle is similar to Benveniste's experiment from 1997[12] where EMS was recorded from ovalbumine at the Northwestern University Medical School of Chicago, and transmitted through email to Benveniste's Digital Biology Laboratory in Clamart, France.

After emitting the signal on pure water for 20 minutes, the water could cause an allergic shock on an isolated Guinea-pig heart allergic to ovalbumine. In both experiments the EMS reproduces the properties of the original molecules in their absence.

https://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(97)81064-0/pdf (pg 75 of the pdf document, item 705)


Vaccinations do cause strains.

https://www.francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/covid-19-questions-sur-les-vaccins

Mais patatras, voilà que l’Académie de médecine s’y met, et maladroitement, car son explication pour ne pas différer la seconde injection, remet dans le circuit le risque de mutations dues aux vaccins. Outre le fait que « le retard peut faire en sorte que des anticorps facilitants créés pourrait exacerber la Covid-19 », le communiqué indique aussi que « le faible niveau d’immunité (après la primo-vaccination) constituera un terrain favorable pour sélectionner l’émergence d’un ou de plusieurs variants échappant à l’immunité induite par la vaccination ». Cela a été répété par Yves Buisson rapporteur, sur France Info.

Seconde question : y a-t-il un lien entre vaccins et derniers mutants ? Le communiqué de l’Académie de médecine dit que c’est possible, et des faits me troublent.

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/maladie/coronavirus/vaccin/vaccins-contre-le-covid-19-en-espacant-les-deux-doses-de-vaccin-on-risque-d-avoir-des-mutations-du-virus-alerte-un-professeur-de-medecine_4255067.html

By spacing the two doses of vaccine, "we risk having mutations" of the virus, alerted Tuesday, January 12 on franceinfo, Professor Yves Buisson of the National Academy of Medicine, president of the Covid-19 cell .

In addition to the fact that "the delay may ensure that facilitating antibodies created could exacerbate Covid-19", the press release also indicates that "the low level of immunity (after the primary vaccination) will constitute a favorable ground for selecting the 'emergence of one or more variants escaping immunity induced by vaccination'.

Second question: is there a link between vaccines and the latest mutants? The press release from the Academy of Medicine says it is possible, and I am troubled by the facts.


So I am correct on all counts.


Now listen to this.

"New Jersey-based Merck, one of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies, has just abandoned its two experimental COVID vaccine projects after early data showed they generated little, if any, immune response in patients."

"After evaluating the data, Merck's leadership team decided to scrap the vax effort and focus resources on COVID treatments instead."

Why would they be focusing on treatments when the vaccine will make them unnecessary?

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #517 on: February 28, 2021, 05:00:26 AM »
So I am correct on all counts.

Out of your entire rant there, this was the craziest, and more incorrect thing you said.

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #518 on: February 28, 2021, 08:10:16 AM »
Question: why are the new covid cases crashing?


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« Reply #519 on: February 28, 2021, 08:22:09 AM »
Question: why are the new covid cases crashing?

That would be due to responsible people taking it seriously, using science to make decisions and following the advice of doctors.

You can thank everyone else for keeping you safe. You're welcome.

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #520 on: February 28, 2021, 08:46:50 AM »
It can't be due to the positive impact of the vaccination program (the percentage of the population which did get the vaccine is too small; again, something to think about, if they had wanted a much higher percentage to participate, there would have been no negative publicity about the vaccines allowed to be published). The decline started in mid-January, moreover not every country is vaccinating at the same rate.

It can't be due to any change of the ct threshold for the PCR test.

It can't be due to wearing masks; had masks worked there would have been close to zero cases starting in May of last year. What the masks and social distancing did is to almost eliminate the flu cases.

It can't be due to any lockdowns, countries which did not lockdown also had their cases drop in numbers (the percentage is smaller).

What could it be then? The answer is much more ominous than you might think.


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« Reply #521 on: February 28, 2021, 08:56:53 AM »
What could it be then? The answer is much more ominous than you might think.

The only ominous thing here is your behavior, showing that even during a global threat, there will always be people who refuse to do the right thing and put everyone else in danger due to either being selfish, ignorant or just plain nuts. Or all of the above.

It shows that if humanity ever does have to face an immediate and dire threat, we will likely fail because of idiots.

But everyone has the right to exist, even idiots. So we will all go down together.  Enjoy the ride.

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #522 on: February 28, 2021, 09:00:13 AM »
It can't be due to the positive impact of the vaccination program (the percentage of the population which did get the vaccine is too small; again, something to think about, if they had wanted a much higher percentage to participate, there would have been no negative publicity about the vaccines allowed to be published). The decline started in mid-January, moreover not every country is vaccinating at the same rate.

It can't be due to any change of the ct threshold for the PCR test.

It can't be due to wearing masks; had masks worked there would have been close to zero cases starting in May of last year. What the masks and social distancing did is to almost eliminate the flu cases.

It can't be due to any lockdowns, countries which did not lockdown also had their cases drop in numbers (the percentage is smaller).

What could it be then? The answer is much more ominous than you might think.

US spike up in January was due to the holidays, e.g.,social gatherings, travel, idiots not following protocols. US vaccinations started in earnest late December.



The graph makes sense. You do not.

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #523 on: February 28, 2021, 09:22:24 AM »
It shows that if humanity ever does have to face an immediate and dire threat, we will likely fail because of idiots.


Did you get the Pfizer vaccine?


US spike up in January was due to the holidays, e.g.,social gatherings, travel, idiots not following protocols.

Ain't nothing to do with holidays, gatherings, protocols. Surely you cannot be fooled by such gibberish.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/coronavirus-why-cold-winter-weather-makes-it-harder-to-fight-respiratory-infections

Winter surge = very low temperatures, not enough exposure to sunlight

Something else is going on.

Have any of you here heard of the new strain B.1.258? If not, look it up.

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« Reply #524 on: February 28, 2021, 09:47:04 AM »
It shows that if humanity ever does have to face an immediate and dire threat, we will likely fail because of idiots.

Did you get the Pfizer vaccine?

I got the vaccine, so you don't have to hide under your bed all scared of the evil microchips or suffocating you with CO2 or whatever else you think getting a shot and wearing a mask does to you.  Let the adults take it and protect you so you can continue to spread your lies and conspiracy theories and be selfish and not care about anyone else.

You're welcome. 

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #525 on: February 28, 2021, 10:00:56 AM »
There is no turning back now for you. You are of the opinion that covid-19 is over, the new strains will wither/fade away, no reassortment viruses will emerge, this spring is the last we hear of the coronavirus. A robust recovery, then, will be possible.

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« Reply #526 on: February 28, 2021, 10:50:17 AM »
There is no turning back now for you. You are of the opinion that covid-19 is over, the new strains will wither/fade away, no reassortment viruses will emerge, this spring is the last we hear of the coronavirus. A robust recovery, then, will be possible.

Who said that?

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« Reply #527 on: February 28, 2021, 11:43:07 AM »
There is no turning back now for you. You are of the opinion that covid-19 is over, the new strains will wither/fade away, no reassortment viruses will emerge, this spring is the last we hear of the coronavirus. A robust recovery, then, will be possible.

Are you hearing voices again?  I certainly didn't say anything like that.

It's certain that it's going to linger, due to people like you.

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #528 on: February 28, 2021, 12:17:35 PM »
I certainly didn't say anything like that.

You can't have it both ways.

It's certain that it's going to linger

A perfect vaccine provides long lasting immunity and blocks infection and transmission.

A leaky/imperfect vaccine will help the virus to become uniquely virulent.

The new strains come from the vaccinated people (direct correlation with the strength of their immune system; a stronger immune system = lower possibility of developing a new strain).


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« Reply #529 on: February 28, 2021, 12:54:49 PM »
I certainly didn't say anything like that.

You can't have it both ways.

You are making up what people say, just like your making up your crazy virus garbage.

If you don't want to take it that's your dumb selfish ignorant choice.  Still makes you one of the people helping the virus spread, and not one of us helping to stop it.

You are the problem here.  Luckily there are more of us than there are you, and we will get through it. Despite your efforts.

Sadly people like you are still causing more people to die than are needed, and even more sad, I'm sure you don't have the self awareness to feel guilty about it.

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« Reply #530 on: February 28, 2021, 01:02:38 PM »
I certainly didn't say anything like that.

You can't have it both ways.

It's certain that it's going to linger

A perfect vaccine provides long lasting immunity and blocks infection and transmission.

A leaky/imperfect vaccine will help the virus to become uniquely virulent.

What's a perfect vaccine? And what's an example of one?

The new strains come from the vaccinated people (direct correlation with the strength of their immune system; a stronger immune system = lower possibility of developing a new strain).

Source?

Are you saying vaccinated people have a weaker immune system against the thing they were vaccinated for? How does that make sense?

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« Reply #531 on: February 28, 2021, 01:13:31 PM »
Still makes you one of the people helping the virus spread, and not one of us helping to stop it.

Covid-19 was over in December. The new strains come from the people who got vaccinated. Those who got vaccinated can still transmit the M. avium/passenger virus. Imagine this, a vaccination program started for a virus which no longer posed a problem, as of December 2020. Where do you think the new powerful strains came from? Exactly, from the people who underwent the trial vaccines program.

What's a perfect vaccine? And what's an example of one?

A much better choice would have been the BCG: it has bacteriophages which do not allow the M. avium to communicate through radio waves. It would have provided lasting immunity against mycobacterium.

Are you saying vaccinated people have a weaker immune system against the thing they were vaccinated for? How does that make sense?

The folks who got the vaccine, and had a weak immune system to start with, are the ones who of course have developed the new strains.

The vaccine is useless: it deals with the passenger virus, not with the real pathogenic agent.

Source?

Is this a joke on your part? Just take a look at the data coming from Israel, as an example.

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« Reply #532 on: February 28, 2021, 01:17:48 PM »
Still makes you one of the people helping the virus spread, and not one of us helping to stop it.

Covid-19 was over in December.

The hundreds of thousands of deaths since then kind of prove you wrong.  You're massive ignorance really knows no bounds.  Why don't you learn something instead of spreading your lies, disinformation and idiotic conspiracy theories.

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« Reply #533 on: February 28, 2021, 02:18:55 PM »
Still makes you one of the people helping the virus spread, and not one of us helping to stop it.

Covid-19 was over in December. The new strains come from the people who got vaccinated.

Nope, wrong again. At least as far as the US goes, we started to spike right after Thanksgiving. And there was no vaccine yet. So you're wrong.



What's a perfect vaccine? And what's an example of one?

A much better choice would have been the BCG: it has bacteriophages which do not allow the M. avium to communicate through radio waves. It would have provided lasting immunity against mycobacterium.

Call the CDC, WHO, Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, etc., and let them know you have a much better vaccine solution via an AM radio.

The stats prove you wrong. And you still dodged the question, what's an example of a perfect vaccine? Not your silly delusions, one that exists.

Are you saying vaccinated people have a weaker immune system against the thing they were vaccinated for? How does that make sense?

The folks who got the vaccine, and had a weak immune system to start with, are the ones who of course have developed the new strains.

The vaccine is useless: it deals with the passenger virus, not with the real pathogenic agent.

I'm glad you have nothing to do with the medical field.

Source?

Is this a joke on your part? Just take a look at the data coming from Israel, as an example.

Yes, your source. What about Israel?


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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #534 on: February 28, 2021, 08:22:18 PM »
Two Nobel prize winners are telling you that you are wrong.

Montagnier's experiment can be summarised as follows:

A known water sample with 2 ng/ml of 104 bases DNA from an HIV infected patient is diluted by 10 into water and agitated for 15 seconds. After filtration to remove the DNA, the dilution and agitation steps are repeated 10 times, reaching high dilution levels of 10^−10.

The highly diluted sample emits electromagnetic signals (EMS) of low frequencies.

This EMS is recorded by a microphone coil and saved as a 6-second WAV file at the lab in Paris.

The WAV file is emailed to a partner team at the university of Benevento in Italy.

The Italian team emits with a coil for 1 hour the EMS of the WAV file on a sample of distilled water in a sealed metal tube.

The water sample is then placed in a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) machine.

The PCR machine in Italy produces DNA, 98% identical to the initial DNA in Paris.


The experiment was first made in July 2005, and was repeated and filmed for a TV documentary in 2013, released on the French channel France 5 on 5 July 2014.


https://arxiv.org/abs/1501.01620

Transduction of DNA information through water and electromagnetic waves

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1501.01620.pdf

The quantum field theoretical analysis of the phenomenon points to the crucial role played by coherent molecular dynamics.


The problem has been that Montagnier showed that when compared to pure water, samples chockfull of bacteria, emitted more radio waves, and no one could explain why.

Researchers have known for years that some bacteria do communicate via nanowires, which led Widom and his team to conclude that it wasn’t so farfetched to believe more highly developed bacteria, such as E. coli or Mycoplasma pirum, might instead communicate via wireless medium.

It’s likely these new findings will incite others to look a little deeper, however, as the main argument for rejecting Montagnier’s findings back in 2009, was that bacteria lacked a means for generating radio signals; an assertion that has now been overthrown.


More importantly, though, if simple organisms can communicate using radio waves — and have been communicating using radio waves for billions of years — it would shake the entire bedrock of modern science. Montagnier’s work suggests that cells can send electromagnetic imprints of itself to other, remote cells, but why stop there? If human cells also communicate using radio waves, we might be able to create a digital, silicon-based interface for ‘hacking’ our physiological infrastructure.


Montagnier’s work suggests that cells can send electromagnetic imprints of itself to other, remote cells.


The principle is similar to Benveniste's experiment from 1997[12] where EMS was recorded from ovalbumine at the Northwestern University Medical School of Chicago, and transmitted through email to Benveniste's Digital Biology Laboratory in Clamart, France.

After emitting the signal on pure water for 20 minutes, the water could cause an allergic shock on an isolated Guinea-pig heart allergic to ovalbumine. In both experiments the EMS reproduces the properties of the original molecules in their absence.

It was for this research that Benveniste received his second Nobel Prize in 1998.

https://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(97)81064-0/pdf (pg 75 of the pdf document, item 705)


Vaccinations do cause strains.

https://www.francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/covid-19-questions-sur-les-vaccins

Mais patatras, voilà que l’Académie de médecine s’y met, et maladroitement, car son explication pour ne pas différer la seconde injection, remet dans le circuit le risque de mutations dues aux vaccins. Outre le fait que « le retard peut faire en sorte que des anticorps facilitants créés pourrait exacerber la Covid-19 », le communiqué indique aussi que « le faible niveau d’immunité (après la primo-vaccination) constituera un terrain favorable pour sélectionner l’émergence d’un ou de plusieurs variants échappant à l’immunité induite par la vaccination ». Cela a été répété par Yves Buisson rapporteur, sur France Info.

Seconde question : y a-t-il un lien entre vaccins et derniers mutants ? Le communiqué de l’Académie de médecine dit que c’est possible, et des faits me troublent.

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/maladie/coronavirus/vaccin/vaccins-contre-le-covid-19-en-espacant-les-deux-doses-de-vaccin-on-risque-d-avoir-des-mutations-du-virus-alerte-un-professeur-de-medecine_4255067.html

By spacing the two doses of vaccine, "we risk having mutations" of the virus, alerted Tuesday, January 12 on franceinfo, Professor Yves Buisson of the National Academy of Medicine, president of the Covid-19 cell .

In addition to the fact that "the delay may ensure that facilitating antibodies created could exacerbate Covid-19", the press release also indicates that "the low level of immunity (after the primary vaccination) will constitute a favorable ground for selecting the 'emergence of one or more variants escaping immunity induced by vaccination'.

Second question: is there a link between vaccines and the latest mutants? The press release from the Academy of Medicine says it is possible, and I am troubled by the facts.


So I am correct on all counts.


Now listen to this.

"New Jersey-based Merck, one of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies, has just abandoned its two experimental COVID vaccine projects after early data showed they generated little, if any, immune response in patients."

"After evaluating the data, Merck's leadership team decided to scrap the vax effort and focus resources on COVID treatments instead."

Why would they be focusing on treatments when the vaccine will make them unnecessary?

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A novel property of DNA is described: the capacity of some bacterial DNA sequences to induce electromagnetic waves at high aqueous dilutions. It appears to be a resonance phenomenon triggered by the ambient electromagnetic background of very low frequency waves. The genomic DNA of most pathogenic bacteria contains sequences which are able to generate such signals. This opens the way to the development of highly sensitive detection system for chronic bacterial infections in human and animal diseases."

Equal to florescence. No transmission of information. You already had to back track on the quantum entanglement because you were wrong. The rest was wrong as well. You lack of understanding of science leads you to your outlandish conclusions. Not to mention you keep using science you don't believe in.

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #535 on: February 28, 2021, 10:23:24 PM »
 No transmission of information.

You are useless here. Can't you even read proper English?

Montagnier's experiment can be summarised as follows:

A known water sample with 2 ng/ml of 104 bases DNA from an HIV infected patient is diluted by 10 into water and agitated for 15 seconds. After filtration to remove the DNA, the dilution and agitation steps are repeated 10 times, reaching high dilution levels of 10^−10.

The highly diluted sample emits electromagnetic signals (EMS) of low frequencies.

This EMS is recorded by a microphone coil and saved as a 6-second WAV file at the lab in Paris.

The WAV file is emailed to a partner team at the university of Benevento in Italy.

The Italian team emits with a coil for 1 hour the EMS of the WAV file on a sample of distilled water in a sealed metal tube.

The water sample is then placed in a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) machine.

The PCR machine in Italy produces DNA, 98% identical to the initial DNA in Paris.


Certainly information was transmitted over a distance of thousands of kilometers.


The problem has been that Montagnier showed that when compared to pure water, samples chockfull of bacteria, emitted more radio waves, and no one could explain why.

Researchers have known for years that some bacteria do communicate via nanowires, which led Widom and his team to conclude that it wasn’t so farfetched to believe more highly developed bacteria, such as E. coli or Mycoplasma pirum, might instead communicate via wireless medium.

It’s likely these new findings will incite others to look a little deeper, however, as the main argument for rejecting Montagnier’s findings back in 2009, was that bacteria lacked a means for generating radio signals; an assertion that has now been overthrown.


More importantly, though, if simple organisms can communicate using radio waves — and have been communicating using radio waves for billions of years — it would shake the entire bedrock of modern science. Montagnier’s work suggests that cells can send electromagnetic imprints of itself to other, remote cells, but why stop there? If human cells also communicate using radio waves, we might be able to create a digital, silicon-based interface for ‘hacking’ our physiological infrastructure.


Montagnier’s work suggests that cells can send electromagnetic imprints of itself to other, remote cells.


The principle is similar to Benveniste's experiment from 1997[12] where EMS was recorded from ovalbumine at the Northwestern University Medical School of Chicago, and transmitted through email to Benveniste's Digital Biology Laboratory in Clamart, France.

After emitting the signal on pure water for 20 minutes, the water could cause an allergic shock on an isolated Guinea-pig heart allergic to ovalbumine. In both experiments the EMS reproduces the properties of the original molecules in their absence.



Contrary to your assertion, information was sent from the emitter to the receiver. This is what you do not understand. A Nobel prize winner is telling you that you are wrong.


Question: what is it that M. avium is mutating into? What is the final target of this mutation?


At least as far as the US goes, we started to spike right after Thanksgiving. And there was no vaccine yet.

The trial vaccines were administered as far back as March 2020! That is where the mutations came from.

The hundreds of thousands of deaths since then kind of prove you wrong. 

Yes, that is the effect of the new strains, not the original covid-19 pandemic. There are few labs in each country which can differentiate between the B.1.1.7 strain (as an example) and the other sequences. They cannot tell the difference between the B.1.128 strain and the B.1.1.7 UK strain.

Covid-19 was over in November-December. However, the people who got the trial vaccines already had started to develop the new powerful strains (B.1.1.7, B.1.429, B.1.525, B.1.351, B.1.1.28), it is these new strains which have caused the infections during the winter surge period.

Now, there are many more cases than before, however they go undetected since the labs cannot pick up the presence of the new strains. The very few labs which are specialized in each country to analyze such sequences, are detecting only a few cases at a time; the new strains have already spread all over Europe, USA, UK, South America, Asia.

And you still dodged the question, what's an example of a perfect vaccine?

The BCG comes as close as possible to a perfect vaccine. If the scientists realized that the epidemic is caused by mycobacterium, the BCG could be improved even further, to become a perfect vaccine.

Yes, your source. What about Israel?

Conclusions of the researchers who analyzed the data (translated from Hebrew):

"The evidence collected in Israel points at a close correlation between mass vaccination and cases. This correlation points at the possibility that it is the vaccinated who actually spread the virus or even a range of mutants that are responsible for the radical shift in symptoms above.

The results of this Pfizer-Israeli experiment aren’t necessarily encouraging. Though it may be possible, as some studies suggest, that most vaccinated people have at least short-term protection from Covid-19, no one can deny the astonishing fact that in just 8 weeks of mass vaccination the total number of Covid-19 deaths in the Jewish State almost doubled from the number accumulated in the prior ten months.

The following collection graphs point at the undeniable correlation between mass vaccination and an exponential surge in Covid-19 cases and deaths. The spike in cases is often detected just 2-3 days after the launch of the mass vaccination campaign."
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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #536 on: February 28, 2021, 10:40:04 PM »
I'm glad you have nothing to do with the medical field.

Had I been in charge of the response to the epidemic, I would have proceeded as follows.

Identify immediately the pathogenic agent as M. avium. The treatment for M. avium is 12-24 months on antibiotics (a careful monitorization of each pacient, as some antibiotics can actually worsen the condition). No masks, lockdowns. Launch a world wide BCG vaccination program. Prepare immediately for the next pathogenic agent which comes from comet Encke. Right now, no one is preparing for the next pandemic, they do not even have any idea what that might be.

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« Reply #537 on: March 01, 2021, 12:44:17 AM »
Covid-19 (SARS-Cov-2 - Mycobacterium avium) is connected to the 2016 Mercury solar transit/comet Encke periodic encounters in my opinion, as it takes a couple of years for the bacteria to reach the surface of the Earth from the stratosphere. The 2019 Mercury solar transit/comet Encke meteor showers relation to a future pandemic outbreak is yet to be determined.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/mercury-gets-meteoroid-shower-from-comet-encke

The strength of the Earth's magnetic field is diminishing. The cosmic shield protects Earth from solar winds, cosmic rays, and harmful radiation.

“From what we know about field strength through time, over the last hundred thousand years,” agrees James Channell, a geologist at the University of Florida, “there does appear to be a linkage between extinctions and low geomagnetic field strength.”

"The weakening of its magnetic field can mean more space weather – like solar flares and galactic cosmic rays – could head Earth’s way."

The transit of Mercury (2016) is what caused the cometary dust to reach the Earth's atmosphere in huge quantities. However, at that time, the geomagnetic field did provide at least some protection against the dust from comet Encke. Right now, the cometary dust is heading our way from the atmosphere, the cause being the transit of Mercury (2019). In the past, during similar situations, Earth was hit by M. avium and B. anthracis from the atmosphere.


"Magnetic Reversal Due? Yes, says Dr Alan Thomson of the British Geological Survey in Edinburgh.

The strength of Earth’s magnetic field, the force that protects us from deadly radiation from outer space, has been weakening dramatically. Although scientists have been tracking this decline for more than100 years, they’ve disagreed about what it means. Some say it’s a precursor to reversal, others argue that it’s a temporary phenomenon.

But Gauthier Hulot of the Paris Geophysical Institute has discovered Earth’s magnetic field seems to be disappearing most alarmingly near the poles, a clear sign that a flip may soon take place."

Those who launched Operation Warp Speed have no idea what is happening.


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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #538 on: March 01, 2021, 12:45:43 AM »
I'm glad you have nothing to do with the medical field.

Had I been in charge of the response to the epidemic, I would have proceeded as follows.

Identify immediately the pathogenic agent as M. avium. The treatment for M. avium is 12-24 months on antibiotics (a careful monitorization of each pacient, as some antibiotics can actually worsen the condition). No masks, lockdowns. Launch a world wide BCG vaccination program. Prepare immediately for the next pathogenic agent which comes from comet Encke. Right now, no one is preparing for the next pandemic, they do not even have any idea what that might be.

Your delusions of grandeur are quite impressive. You should really do something with your self-proclaimed expertise in all things pathogens, like alert the authorities as to how they should stop what they are doing around the world and follow your sage advice. I don't know why you are posting your discoveries and conclusions here and not alerting the proper folks. At this point publishing your solutions only here is almost negligent. The world needs you.

Btw, the last time comet Encke came around, 2017, how come there was no pandemic?

And I'll be sure not to open any .wav files emailed to me as they may contain a new strain of Covid. Thanks for the pro-tip.

On behalf of all of humanity, I'm now doubly glad you have nothing to do with medicine.

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Re: Is COVID-19 Caused by a Virus or a Mycobacterium?
« Reply #539 on: March 01, 2021, 12:58:05 AM »
It takes a couple of years for the cometary dust to reach the atmosphere and then the surface of the Earth.

Researchers at Harvard have been studying the link between B. anthracis and SARS for many years now.

M. avium is nontuberculous mycobacteria. M. africanum is galloping tuberculosis.

Operation warp speed was launched at the worst possible time in human history: a weakening geomagnetic field accompanied by the cosmic showers from comet Encke and the solar transit of Mercury.
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