nCoV public service announcement. (IMPORTANT)

Quote from: Definitely Not Swedish on September 18, 2021, 07:32:08 AM

I wasnt here in a while, and immediately I notice two things
1) the forum is dead, but not as dead as expected
2) shittler is still the same old retard. He even seems a bit similar to d1 now!

d1 is a gun loving, anti vaxxer, racist, Neo Nazi, xenophobic, misogynistic, Cucker Tarlson obsessed freak. In what way do you think I am similar?

Highlighted the similar stuff!

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Initial viral loading may contribute as to how ill you get.

Now you're just making shit up.  That child would have caught the virus at some stage and would be fantastically unlucky to suffer any symptoms, let alone die.

That’s not shit, viral load makes a big difference.  Also I’m not sure what your argument is supposed to mean?  Sure the kid could be exposed anyway, and would be unlucky to get serious symptoms.  Are you suggesting that odds of survival are the same regardless of circumstances?  Because I don’t think that’s true.

I’m not with Shifter on condemning the mother though.  She got sucked into antivaxer bullshit, and paid the worst imaginable price.  It’s the people who peddle this crap that deserve all the anger.  Hopefully her story will help discourage others from listening to sociopathic charlatans.

trolling

Ahh, so you have no idea what you're talking about as usual. Just the same verbal diarrhea as always. Do continue your trolling

My sister's 10th day of isolation is today, so we're washing all the blankets and whatever else.  I hope all the corone is dead because I want to sleep in my own bed. I decided not to wait the extra three days.

Good luck!

Before I start each shift at work I spend about 15 minutes to spray and wipe anything the other person may have touched. Even though they (and now me) is fully vaxxed lol.

The new variants are highly transmissible and are much more lethal.

Completely wrong.

When virii increase in contagiousness, they necessarily decrease in fatality at the same time.  This is virology 101.

Increased death toll figures are probably to do with far more people getting infected at the same time with delta, and having health care resources under more strain

It also seems worse because the people dying are younger because they may not have been vaccinated yet

Quote from: JJA on July 08, 2021, 05:44:44 AM

The new variants are highly transmissible and are much more lethal.

Completely wrong.

When virii increase in contagiousness, they necessarily decrease in fatality at the same time.  This is virology 101.

I have no idea if this is true or not. Do you have any evidence to back this up?

Fatality I'm unsure of, but apparently some studies have shown that Delta has led to more hospitalizations than Alpha. Meaning a possible severity increase with Delta which I presume could lead to being deadlier.

"Some data suggest the Delta variant might cause more severe illness than previous variants in unvaccinated people. In two different studies from Canada and Scotland, patients infected with the Delta variant were more likely to be hospitalized than patients infected with Alpha or the original virus that causes COVID-19."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html

The Scotland study:

"In summary, we show that the Delta VOC in Scotland was found mainly in younger, more affluent groups. Risk of COVID-19 hospital admission was approximately doubled in those with the Delta VOC when compared to the Alpha VOC, with risk of admission particularly increased in those with five or more relevant comorbidities."
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01358-1/fulltext

When virii increase in contagiousness, they necessarily decrease in fatality at the same time.  This is virology 101.

What if covid didn't take virology 101?

Hope herpes never finds out that killing people was part of the job.

Sums up the crux of the problems with anti vaxxers quite well

Repugnicans too

Quote from: jack44556677 on September 18, 2021, 02:15:01 PM

Quote from: JJA on July 08, 2021, 05:44:44 AM

The new variants are highly transmissible and are much more lethal.

Completely wrong.

When virii increase in contagiousness, they necessarily decrease in fatality at the same time.  This is virology 101.

I have no idea if this is true or not. Do you have any evidence to back this up?

It’s not. 

There can be some correlation, because a virus that kills it’s host before it gets a chance to spread will not be very successful,  but that tends to be the case if death or serious illness happens quite quickly.

For instance, Ebola is incredibly deadly and has a low R number. As  I understand it, people with Ebola are only contagious after they are symptomatic, and by that point they are very very sick, so they aren’t just carrying on their day to day lives spreading it about.

The nightmare scenario would be a disease with a high mortality rate, and a long period of time where people are highly infectious and asymptomatic.  Perhaps the chances of these factors stacking up that way are quite low, but there’s no fundamental reason why they couldn’t.

Of course, there’s also diseases carried by mosquitoes, rats or whatever that complicate this further.

Yes Shitler, we know you never miss an opportunity to call a woman a bitch.

You mean like this bitch?

Laura Loomer - now begging for people to pray for her HAHAHAHAHA

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/post/laura-loomer-28-mar-a-lago-ish-fl-hate-speech-artist-has-covid-is-death-looming



https://www.wptv.com/coronavirus/anti-vaccine-conservative-laura-loomer-in-so-much-pain-after-contracting-covid-19

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — A former Republican candidate for Congress in Palm Beach County, who has been passionate against mask mandates and the COVID-19 vaccine, announced she is enduring a painful bout with the virus.

Conservative Laura Loomer wrote on the messaging app Telegram on Thursday that she had a fever, chills and severe body aches, describing it like getting "hit by a bus."

Loomer, an anti-Muslim conspiracy theorist who has been banned by Facebook and Twitter, said she later tested positive for COVID-19.

Despite contracting the virus, Loomer said she remains committed against getting the shot.

"I have not taken the COVID-19 vaccine, and I don't plan on ever taking it because it is unsafe and ineffective," Loomer wrote on Telegram.

Loomer said she is currently taking a cocktail of medications that include the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, which health experts have advised against using because of adverse health effects.

"I wanted to get ivermectin but I couldn't get it. Doctors are really weird about prescribing it, which pisses me off," she wrote.

Ivermectin, which is used to treat parasitic worms, has not been authorized or approved by the FDA for use in preventing or treating COVID-19 in humans.

The right-wing activist later praised Gov. Ron DeSantis for Florida's monoclonal antibody treatment centers and said she had received a location for those approved treatments.

Despite the treatment, Loomer asked her followers to "pray for me please" during her battle for the virus.

"Can't even begin to explain how brutal the body aches and nausea that come with covid are. I am in so much pain. This is honestly the worst part about it," she wrote.

Loomer sought to unseat incumbent Democratic Lois Frankel for the District 21 seat last year but was soundly defeated last November.

Will never get a vaccine against covid. I'm sure the full blown covid infection is far safer And if she survives this bout of covid unlike a lot of other high profile repugs, I hope she gets hit again next variant. And again and again. She's a net negative and beyond saving. Just hope she doesn't take down innocents with her. We know how little repugnicans actually value the sanctity of life

Have to say though and someone also mentioned it in the comments on sorryantivaxxer. Does Laura shave off her nose hair? Her pics look super weird. Nose hair is important part of your bodies defence and works as a filter. I guess for vanity she shaved it off lol?

In the interests of equality here is the demise of a dickhead

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/post/jacob-zimmerman-41-dayton-oh-realtor-thought-vaxx-was-mark-of-the-beast-dead-from-covid


The vaccine is the mark of the best? LOL. Well the idiot is now dead. Leaves behind a toddler who will have no memory of him. Way to stick it to the libs man! What a dickhead

That whole page is full of dickheads to LOL at. Sorry, but after all their BS tough talk and daring to get infected, I'll happily laugh at their comeuppance. The Darwin awards competition has never been so fierce!!

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on September 16, 2021, 03:18:16 PM

Yes Shitler, we know you never miss an opportunity to call a woman a bitch.

You mean like this bitch?

Laura Loomer - now begging for people to pray for her HAHAHAHAHA

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/post/laura-loomer-28-mar-a-lago-ish-fl-hate-speech-artist-has-covid-is-death-looming



https://www.wptv.com/coronavirus/anti-vaccine-conservative-laura-loomer-in-so-much-pain-after-contracting-covid-19

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WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — A former Republican candidate for Congress in Palm Beach County, who has been passionate against mask mandates and the COVID-19 vaccine, announced she is enduring a painful bout with the virus.

Conservative Laura Loomer wrote on the messaging app Telegram on Thursday that she had a fever, chills and severe body aches, describing it like getting "hit by a bus."

Loomer, an anti-Muslim conspiracy theorist who has been banned by Facebook and Twitter, said she later tested positive for COVID-19.

Despite contracting the virus, Loomer said she remains committed against getting the shot.

"I have not taken the COVID-19 vaccine, and I don't plan on ever taking it because it is unsafe and ineffective," Loomer wrote on Telegram.

Loomer said she is currently taking a cocktail of medications that include the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine, which health experts have advised against using because of adverse health effects.

"I wanted to get ivermectin but I couldn't get it. Doctors are really weird about prescribing it, which pisses me off," she wrote.

Ivermectin, which is used to treat parasitic worms, has not been authorized or approved by the FDA for use in preventing or treating COVID-19 in humans.

The right-wing activist later praised Gov. Ron DeSantis for Florida's monoclonal antibody treatment centers and said she had received a location for those approved treatments.

Despite the treatment, Loomer asked her followers to "pray for me please" during her battle for the virus.

"Can't even begin to explain how brutal the body aches and nausea that come with covid are. I am in so much pain. This is honestly the worst part about it," she wrote.

Loomer sought to unseat incumbent Democratic Lois Frankel for the District 21 seat last year but was soundly defeated last November.

Will never get a vaccine against covid. I'm sure the full blown covid infection is far safer And if she survives this bout of covid unlike a lot of other high profile repugs, I hope she gets hit again next variant. And again and again. She's a net negative and beyond saving. Just hope she doesn't take down innocents with her. We know how little repugnicans actually value the sanctity of life

Have to say though and someone also mentioned it in the comments on sorryantivaxxer. Does Laura shave off her nose hair? Her pics look super weird. Nose hair is important part of your bodies defence and works as a filter. I guess for vanity she shaved it off lol?

In the interests of equality here is the demise of a dickhead

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/post/jacob-zimmerman-41-dayton-oh-realtor-thought-vaxx-was-mark-of-the-beast-dead-from-covid


The vaccine is the mark of the best? LOL. Well the idiot is now dead. Leaves behind a toddler who will have no memory of him. Way to stick it to the libs man! What a dickhead

That whole page is full of dickheads to LOL at. Sorry, but after all their BS tough talk and daring to get infected, I'll happily laugh at their comeuppance. The Darwin awards competition has never been so fierce!!

I pray for her fajita cooking skills.  Mine have never killed anyone.  Maybe God should intervene?

It's amazing that Ivermectin is getting such a great rap from 'anti vaxxers' who hate and mistrust 'big pharma'

I wonder who made Ivermectin

Oh. It's Merck!! The same company that made Vioxx which has murdered potentially hundreds of thousands of people and injured many more.

Another weird thing... Joseph Mercola for example is well known for his hatred of 'Big Pharma' and has written many things against the likes of Merck and Vioxx. Yet he's plugging Ivermectin as a cure for covid lol

Anything to stick it to the libs I guess. It does make you wonder who really are the sheep though lol



Anyway, here is what Merck has to say about Ivermectin and its use to treat covid. From the guys that stand to profit the most....

KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

    No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
    No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
    A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.

In fairness to their narrative, Ivermectin is very cheap and easily available.  Although their regard for these drugs doesn't make a lot of sense.

Vaccines.  Used by 2 billion people.  Cleared by the FDA.  Cheap.  Highly effective.  Bad.

Ivermectin.  Widespread use for many years.  Cheap.  Not cleared by the FDA for covid.  No reason to think it's effective.  Good.

Regeneron.  Some use, hard to come by.  Cleared for emergency use.  Studies that show its effective.  Somewhere around $2500 per infusion.  Good?

What is their criteria?  None of this follows any logic or consistency.

Rebecca Watson does a shallow dive into Ivermectin - Worth a watch:

The problem for anyone who does take the ones intended for use on animals is even if the active ingredient is the same, the products intended for use in animals may have different inactive ingredients that have not been tested for safety in humans.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

I have a friend on medication and usually when you get a script you get a choice between the 'brand' version (more expensive) or generic version (cheaper). I cant remember which version he has to take but he will go into anaphylactic shock if he takes the 'wrong' one. Between the brand name and generic they have different inactive ingredients.

In Australia, Ivermectin is only available on prescription although with the new 'telehealth appointments' you can probably rattle off some symptoms of scabies and get a script written for you lol

Although anecdotally it looks like there are enough people buying the ones intended for farm animals as farmers find the supply increasingly scarce
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/20/ivermectin-shortage-horse-owners-covid

People tried to do some life hack with aquarium cleaner to get some Hydroxychloroquine so yeah, I can imagine there are some people that think they are geniuses by ingesting horse deworming paste

I mean, sure, in a test tube against the corone, Ivermectin works great. So does bleach. A shot of tequila probably eats covid alive. Or maybe even dish soap. It doesn't mean you ingest these things (well maybe the tequila). In vitro vs in vivo - at the moment Ivermectin is only a guess. You need proper, randomised, clinically controlled studies and you need to work out an effective and safe dosage. The regular dose to treat worms may not be sufficient to treat covid. And maybe the dose that treats covid is toxic. That is what studies have to find out

Ivermectin is not without it's side effects. And you chance those effects with every dose. Which is daily. As opposed to a vaccine which might be annually

the tests show only 30-40%.
Far from the effectiveness of vax.

Glyphosate can kill covid

OK all you antivaxxers and repugnicans I bring to you something you can buy in your supermarket (so no need for doctors or prescriptions). 'Roundup' or its active ingredient Glyphosate.

Dont buy the pre mixed stuff. Get the concentrate. I'm pretty certain if you test in a test tube pouring Glyphosate over covid, that it kills it on the spot. Just like magic, it'll go away!

So grab your bottle of Glyphosate and stick it to the libs!!!



It's a 'shame' I dont have the star power of Elon Musk or Trump. I shit you not, if they tweeted the above, you would have a lot of muppets buying it up and ingesting it.

I have it on good authority that alcohol can kill covid.  I believe in vitro tests bear that out.  Seems to me that the dosage is the only thing that needs to be worked out.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/09/18/covid-hospital-bills-insurance-deductible/

I wonder if this will make a difference in vaccination rates.  I didn't even know this entire time that they were just covering the cost of treatment for covid.

In Australia, if I had private health insurance, and I go to hospital and they ask the question 'do you have private health insurance?' Saying 'YES!' would entail a lot of out of pocket expenses. Saying 'NO!' would mean all costs associated with the care are FREE! (under medicare)

In fairness to their narrative, Ivermectin is very cheap and easily available.  Although their regard for these drugs doesn't make a lot of sense.

Vaccines.  Used by 2 billion people.  Cleared by the FDA.  Cheap.  Highly effective.  Bad.

Ivermectin.  Widespread use for many years.  Cheap.  Not cleared by the FDA for covid.  No reason to think it's effective.  Good.

Regeneron.  Some use, hard to come by.  Cleared for emergency use.  Studies that show its effective.  Somewhere around $2500 per infusion.  Good?

What is their criteria?  None of this follows any logic or consistency.

You would think that the cost/benefit ratio of prevention to cure should be part of the criteria.  Then again, cure seems to be much more profitable than prevention, so...

If the maga qanons picked up on the fact and combined their energy with the "radical left" you couldve seen major reform against the min wage and monopolies and predatory rent.

Instead the alt right think tanks needed a separate "enemy" hence the repub leadership pressing the faux talking points.

The billionaires are having enough teouble snuffing unions amd convincing people back to work below living wage.

Why else would repub brass be spouting this nonsense?
They risk their base dying just to maintain eomplyer-employee dominance.

THATS the grift.

Well
That and someof them are invested in those other cures.

R1 out of kentuckty
Theg beat florida and texas to mutation.

The llamas are going to save us https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58628689

The llamas are going to save us https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58628689

The Alabama Pickers could have used a bit of llama magic...  https://www.al.com/news/2021/09/alabama-pickers-couple-known-for-reselling-and-vaccine-opposition-both-dead-of-covid.html

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on September 24, 2021, 11:35:26 AM

The llamas are going to save us https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58628689

The Alabama Pickers could have used a bit of llama magic...  https://www.al.com/news/2021/09/alabama-pickers-couple-known-for-reselling-and-vaccine-opposition-both-dead-of-covid.html

Saw that dumbarse on sorryantivaxxer.com. Also saw the video later deleted of him in the ICU struggling to breathe and talk discussing his wifes death. Woke up next to her and rigor mortis already set in on her.  I can see why the Youtube channel was deleted. Everyone was roasting the morons for being stupid antivaxxers. What a waste of a channel. Waste of young lives

This was from an article in LA Times. Covid seems like a real prick of a way to die. At this point, in countries where you have access to a vaccine but you think 'it wont happen to me' or are an antivax moron and refuse to protect yourself an others, you're a net negative and your end is deserved

FROM THE FRONT LINES: 7 STAGES OF SEVERE COVID-19
A respiratory therapist's view of how the worst cases fare. They rarely end well.
By Karen Gallardo

I'm a respiratory therapist. With the highly contagious Delta variant, the trajectory of the patient, when they're vaccinated, most likely ends after STAGE 1. 

Get vaccinated. If you choose not to here's what to expect:

STAGE 1. You've had debilitating symptoms for a few days, but now it's so hard to breath you come to the emergency room. Your oxygen saturation levels tell us you need a supplemental flow of 1 to 4 liters of 02 per minute. We start you on antivirals, steroids, anticoagulants or monoclonal antibodies. You're run down for several days, but if we can wean you off 02 you get discharged. You'll survive

STAGE 2. It becomes ever harder for you to breathe. "Like drowning" patients describe. Your 02 requirements increase from 4 liters to 15 liters to 40 liters per minute. Sitting up or going to the bathroom is impossible because of your need for 02. You are transferred to intensive care.

STAGE 3. You are exhausted from hyperventilating to supply your body with air. We put you on "positive pressure" ventilation, a big bulky mask velcro'd tightly to your face so the machine can pop open your lungs.

STAGE 4. You are severely fatigued from trying to breathe. A blood sample tells us your 02 levels are critically low. We prepare to intubate you. We suggest you call your loved ones if you are able and if there's time. It may be the last time they hear your voice.
We connect you to a ventilator. You are sedated and paralyzed, fed through a tube, hooked to a Foley catheter and a rectal tube. We turn your limp body regularly so you don't develop bed sores. We bathe you. We flip you on your stomach to allow for better oxygenation. We will try experimental therapeutics.

STAGE 5. Some survive stage 4. Unfortunately you have not improved after several days on the ventilator.  Your infested lungs need assistance and time to heal, something that an ECMO machine, which bypasses your lungs and oxygenates your blood can do. But alas, our community hospital doesn't have one. If you are stable enough you will get transferred to another hospital for that.

STAGE 6. The pressure on your lungs is so high that air can leak into your chest cavity. We insert tubes to clear it out. Your kidneys fail to filter the byproducts of the drugs we give you. Despite diuretics, your entire body swells from fluid retention. You require dialysis to help with renal function.  You are susceptible to infections. a chest x-ray shows fluid in your lungs. A blood clot may show up. We can't prevent these at this point. We can only treat them.  If your blood pressure drops, we will administer vasopressors to bring it up, but your heart may stop anyway. After several rounds of CPR we get a pulse. but soon, your family will have to make a tough decision.

STAGE 7. After several meetings your family decides to withdraw care. We extubate you, turn off the breathing machinery. We set up a final face-time call with your loved ones. As we work we hear crying and loving good-byes.  We cry too, and we hold your hand until your last natural breath.

The end.

To think in just about every case of covid happening around America and other developed countries where vaccines are plentiful, all of that misery could have been avoided

Almost all 'breakthrough' cases where the vaccine failed happen to be to people who have co-morbidies. Such as being very old and/or having a suppressed immune system (eg through medication) such that the vaccine dose failed to solicit an immune response in the first place.

I'm almost 40. Those 7 stages of covid could have been my fate soon enough had I not got vaccinated because like the 'Cold' it's only a matter of time before anyone of us gets infected with it. Plenty of people younger and fitter than me have paid the ultimate price already.

Quote from: Rayzor on September 25, 2021, 05:44:04 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on September 24, 2021, 11:35:26 AM

The llamas are going to save us https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58628689

The Alabama Pickers could have used a bit of llama magic...  https://www.al.com/news/2021/09/alabama-pickers-couple-known-for-reselling-and-vaccine-opposition-both-dead-of-covid.html

Saw that dumbarse on sorryantivaxxer.com. Also saw the video later deleted of him in the ICU struggling to breathe and talk discussing his wifes death. Woke up next to her and rigor mortis already set in on her.  I can see why the Youtube channel was deleted. Everyone was roasting the morons for being stupid antivaxxers. What a waste of a channel. Waste of young lives

This was from an article in LA Times. Covid seems like a real prick of a way to die. At this point, in countries where you have access to a vaccine but you think 'it wont happen to me' or are an antivax moron and refuse to protect yourself an others, you're a net negative and your end is deserved

FROM THE FRONT LINES: 7 STAGES OF SEVERE COVID-19
A respiratory therapist's view of how the worst cases fare. They rarely end well.
By Karen Gallardo

I'm a respiratory therapist. With the highly contagious Delta variant, the trajectory of the patient, when they're vaccinated, most likely ends after STAGE 1. 

Get vaccinated. If you choose not to here's what to expect:

STAGE 1. You've had debilitating symptoms for a few days, but now it's so hard to breath you come to the emergency room. Your oxygen saturation levels tell us you need a supplemental flow of 1 to 4 liters of 02 per minute. We start you on antivirals, steroids, anticoagulants or monoclonal antibodies. You're run down for several days, but if we can wean you off 02 you get discharged. You'll survive

STAGE 2. It becomes ever harder for you to breathe. "Like drowning" patients describe. Your 02 requirements increase from 4 liters to 15 liters to 40 liters per minute. Sitting up or going to the bathroom is impossible because of your need for 02. You are transferred to intensive care.

STAGE 3. You are exhausted from hyperventilating to supply your body with air. We put you on "positive pressure" ventilation, a big bulky mask velcro'd tightly to your face so the machine can pop open your lungs.

STAGE 4. You are severely fatigued from trying to breathe. A blood sample tells us your 02 levels are critically low. We prepare to intubate you. We suggest you call your loved ones if you are able and if there's time. It may be the last time they hear your voice.
We connect you to a ventilator. You are sedated and paralyzed, fed through a tube, hooked to a Foley catheter and a rectal tube. We turn your limp body regularly so you don't develop bed sores. We bathe you. We flip you on your stomach to allow for better oxygenation. We will try experimental therapeutics.

STAGE 5. Some survive stage 4. Unfortunately you have not improved after several days on the ventilator.  Your infested lungs need assistance and time to heal, something that an ECMO machine, which bypasses your lungs and oxygenates your blood can do. But alas, our community hospital doesn't have one. If you are stable enough you will get transferred to another hospital for that.

STAGE 6. The pressure on your lungs is so high that air can leak into your chest cavity. We insert tubes to clear it out. Your kidneys fail to filter the byproducts of the drugs we give you. Despite diuretics, your entire body swells from fluid retention. You require dialysis to help with renal function.  You are susceptible to infections. a chest x-ray shows fluid in your lungs. A blood clot may show up. We can't prevent these at this point. We can only treat them.  If your blood pressure drops, we will administer vasopressors to bring it up, but your heart may stop anyway. After several rounds of CPR we get a pulse. but soon, your family will have to make a tough decision.

STAGE 7. After several meetings your family decides to withdraw care. We extubate you, turn off the breathing machinery. We set up a final face-time call with your loved ones. As we work we hear crying and loving good-byes.  We cry too, and we hold your hand until your last natural breath.

The end.

To think in just about every case of covid happening around America and other developed countries where vaccines are plentiful, all of that misery could have been avoided

Almost all 'breakthrough' cases where the vaccine failed happen to be to people who have co-morbidies. Such as being very old and/or having a suppressed immune system (eg through medication) such that the vaccine dose failed to solicit an immune response in the first place.

I'm almost 40. Those 7 stages of covid could have been my fate soon enough had I not got vaccinated because like the 'Cold' it's only a matter of time before anyone of us gets infected with it. Plenty of people younger and fitter than me have paid the ultimate price already.

This sort of reminds me a lecture I was giving my son about industrial safety.  I was using draino and a few other things in the garage to clear the drain.  My son wanted to watch me so I told him he has to wear safety glasses.

He asks me why he has to wear them.

I tell him that these drains can do anything while I'm clearing them.  It's entirely possible we get a pop and specs of draino fly everywhere.  I tell him the skin contact isn't a big deal.  Might itch.  Might be painful but you'll get over it.  The eyes though are a different story.  If this shit touches your eyes it's going to be a pain you've never felt before.  I'm going to hold you down and force your eyelids open and use a hose to run water over your eyes for 15 minutes.  Then I'm going to drive you to the hospital.  Hopefully you won't be blind.

Or you can wear safety glasses.