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Quote from: Definitely Not Swedish on August 17, 2020, 07:19:28 AM

Quote from: Shifter on August 16, 2020, 11:30:28 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Swedish on August 16, 2020, 11:04:12 PM

Quote from: Shifter on August 16, 2020, 11:01:39 PM

Proof that social distancing, hand hygiene and staying home if you're sick (all the measures used to combat the corone) work.

At the same time, despite those measures being taken hundreds of people are still getting knocked off by the corone and thousands more infected or hospitalised. A lot of those who recover come out with lingering damage too

How do people think it's all a hoax or just as Trump puts it 'a little flu'?

Fake news!
People didn't go to the doctor if they only had a mild-medium cold, thus less influenza tests, thus less lab confirmed influenza cases.

Quit shit posting in a thread like this. What happened to you?

Other metrics can also be used to determine the fact that less people got the flu overall by the fact there have been very few deaths caused by influenza

For example only 36 people have died from the actual flu this year in Australia compared to 430 same time last year

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-23/coronavirus-restrictions-cause-flu-cases-to-drop-australia/12480190

The data you posted wasnt proving what you claimed it proved. Deal with it.

Why dont you prove your claim?

While society has tried to crush the r0 value of the corona virus it has clearly subsequently crushed the r0 values of all the other viruses such as influenza and the common cold even. You disagree for.... reasons

(anecdotally I have not even had a single cold all year whereas I normally get them back to back through winter)

The other thing to note is not a single death of influenza has been recorded this Winter in Australia.

The graph I posted showed a sharp decline in recorded Influenza cases at the same time the country went into lockdown and did the whole social distancing and hygiene thing. There has been no other year like this.

So again, prove your counter point or quit the shit posting of your loony conspiritard theories

A noted shitposter believes the flu numbers would or could possibly vary that wildly from year to year.

Quote from: Shifter on August 17, 2020, 08:01:02 AM

Quote from: Definitely Not Swedish on August 17, 2020, 07:19:28 AM

Quote from: Shifter on August 16, 2020, 11:30:28 PM

Quote from: Definitely Not Swedish on August 16, 2020, 11:04:12 PM

Quote from: Shifter on August 16, 2020, 11:01:39 PM

Proof that social distancing, hand hygiene and staying home if you're sick (all the measures used to combat the corone) work.

At the same time, despite those measures being taken hundreds of people are still getting knocked off by the corone and thousands more infected or hospitalised. A lot of those who recover come out with lingering damage too

How do people think it's all a hoax or just as Trump puts it 'a little flu'?

Fake news!
People didn't go to the doctor if they only had a mild-medium cold, thus less influenza tests, thus less lab confirmed influenza cases.

Quit shit posting in a thread like this. What happened to you?

Other metrics can also be used to determine the fact that less people got the flu overall by the fact there have been very few deaths caused by influenza

For example only 36 people have died from the actual flu this year in Australia compared to 430 same time last year

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-23/coronavirus-restrictions-cause-flu-cases-to-drop-australia/12480190

The data you posted wasnt proving what you claimed it proved. Deal with it.

Why dont you prove your claim?

While society has tried to crush the r0 value of the corona virus it has clearly subsequently crushed the r0 values of all the other viruses such as influenza and the common cold even. You disagree for.... reasons

(anecdotally I have not even had a single cold all year whereas I normally get them back to back through winter)

The other thing to note is not a single death of influenza has been recorded this Winter in Australia.

The graph I posted showed a sharp decline in recorded Influenza cases at the same time the country went into lockdown and did the whole social distancing and hygiene thing. There has been no other year like this.

So again, prove your counter point or quit the shit posting of your loony conspiritard theories

A noted shitposter believes the flu numbers would or could possibly vary that wildly from year to year.

Do you have evidence to prove otherwise? Prove the above graph is BS then

Clearly if there are less people interacting with each other, practicing hygiene (those hand sanitizing stations outside every store, workplace and office), more people working from home, not going out as often and indeed wearing masks when they are out so not breathing or coughing on everything, you are going to get less transmission of viruses in the community.

Common sense stuff. Obviously beyond your comprehension though

Please provide data for how many flue tests have been conducted. If you do not, your data in the post I quoted is useless.

Please provide data for how many flue tests have been conducted. If you do not, your data in the post I quoted is useless.

You do realise that if less people are sick - you get less people testing. All reports are monitored and there has been a sharp drop in the amount of people reporting fever and coughing

Obviously there is going to be less tests conducted this year as opposed to last year. Less people are getting the flu to even get sick

Your reasoning and logic is flawed

What we can say for certain and is a good indicator as to how prevalent it is in the community is that only 36 people died from Influenza this year in Australia this year. 0 in Winter. As opposed to over 430 last year. When people die (especially of respiratory illness in this covid day/age) they are tested. Influenza or dying from its complications is also one that you can see coming - It's not a mystery

Anyway, here is the 2020 report
https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ozflu-surveil-no09-20.htm

    Activity – Following a high start to the 2020 interseasonal period, currently, influenza and influenza-like illness (ILI) activity are lower than average across all systems for this time of year. At the national level, notifications of laboratory-confirmed influenza have substantially decreased since mid-March and remain low.
    Impact – There is no indication of the potential impact on society of the 2020 season at this time.
    Severity – There is no indication of the potential severity of the 2020 season at this time. In the year to date, of the 21,005 notifications of laboratory confirmed influenza, 36 (0.17%) laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated deaths have been notified to the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System (NNDSS).
    Virology – In the year to date, the majority of nationally reported laboratory-confirmed influenza cases were influenza A (87.3%).
    Vaccine match and effectiveness – It is too early in the season to assess vaccine match and effectiveness.

You may also find this report VERY enlightening (PDF file). It has many graphs which you would be looking for (if you actually cared)
https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/FE46235FC23CBCD8CA25850200795C24/$File/Data-considerations-AISR-2020.pdf
(You need to copy and paste the full thing into your browser and not click on the half link)

Surely you understand logic DNS?

If you have less people grouping together. Hand sanitising everywhere. Masks. Lockdowns. Working from home. School closures etc. You are going to get less community transmissions of any virus including Infuenza

Are you really going to stand there and say that just as many people are still contracting Influenza this year as opposed to previous years? if so, why so few deaths this year?



A graph like this is not only relevant to the corona virus. Social distancing is reducing the chance of any virus being able to spread throughout the community. There is simply less people coming into contact

Your reasoning and logic is flawed

It's not.
You just suck at science.
But don't worry, you can learn it!

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Your reasoning and logic is flawed

It's not.
You just suck at science.
But don't worry, you can learn it!

If 100,000 people get infected with influenza - you are going to get more people report and get tested for being sick than if 10,000 people get sick

Your logic only holds if testing for the entire population has been mandatory all these years but in 2020 we didn't bother. But it still doesn't explain how so few people have died and none during the winter. That's a pretty good indicator in itself that Influenza isn't infecting as many people this year as last year

You cant bring it to yourself to admit that hygiene and social distancing measures works to reduce the r0 value of viruses and you want to talk about who sucks at science? ROFL

As for your 'I can learn it!', given wherever you learnt your BS from is from Sweden I think 'learning' anything from you would result in me actually dropping in intelligence. So I think I'll pass

Please provide data for how many flue tests have been conducted. If you do not, your data in the post I quoted is useless.

I test my flue every year to make sure I don't die of carbon monoxide poisoning.  But I don't keep detailed records, sorry.

A solution to the masking problem?

Quote from: Definitely Not Swedish on August 17, 2020, 09:37:13 AM

Please provide data for how many flue tests have been conducted. If you do not, your data in the post I quoted is useless.

I test my flue every year to make sure I don't die of carbon monoxide poisoning.  But I don't keep detailed records, sorry.

Anecdotal evidence? Cool story bro.

Oh Canada http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site/Documents/Language-guide.pdf

One of their guiding principles is "Plain language. Use simple language that is easy to understand." Then if you skip down to page 10 they want the language changed from easy to understand to the diversity equity and inclusion version of language. Patient becomes community member. Client becomes individual assessing services. Post modernizing language does not make it clearer.

Maybe it's their attempt at humor.

It sort of sounds like the jargon the police use in Idiocracy.

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Your reasoning and logic is flawed

It's not.
You just suck at science.
But don't worry, you can learn it!

I'm not sure what the issue is here. But simple logic applies like this:

- Let's say there is no Covid
- However, the world takes precautions as if there was, just like today
- One could assume that taking Covid like precautions in a normal Flu season would mean a ton less normal Flu cases
- So, hopefully, we have a ton less normal Flu cases because of the Covid precautions that have been taken

Am I missing something?

Am I missing something?

Yes.  Nobody shuts down their economy for flu season.

Quote from: Stash on August 17, 2020, 07:20:59 PM

Am I missing something?

Yes.  Nobody shuts down their economy for flu season.

Fair point. But if they did, we would logically have fewer Flu cases. In sacrifice to the economy. That's the point.

Quote from: JJA on August 17, 2020, 11:27:37 AM

Quote from: Definitely Not Swedish on August 17, 2020, 09:37:13 AM

Please provide data for how many flue tests have been conducted. If you do not, your data in the post I quoted is useless.

I test my flue every year to make sure I don't die of carbon monoxide poisoning.  But I don't keep detailed records, sorry.

Anecdotal evidence? Cool story bro.

LOL,  And,  this weeks language slight of the week award goes to JJA.   It's a shame DNS didn't get the joke. 

Would some kind soul explain to our swedish friend the difference between flu and flue.

Quote from: Definitely Not Swedish on August 17, 2020, 12:46:50 PM

Quote from: JJA on August 17, 2020, 11:27:37 AM

Quote from: Definitely Not Swedish on August 17, 2020, 09:37:13 AM

Please provide data for how many flue tests have been conducted. If you do not, your data in the post I quoted is useless.

I test my flue every year to make sure I don't die of carbon monoxide poisoning.  But I don't keep detailed records, sorry.

Anecdotal evidence? Cool story bro.

LOL,  And,  this weeks language slight of the week award goes to JJA.   It's a shame DNS didn't get the joke. 

Would some kind soul explain to our swedish friend the difference between flu and flue.

Lol I just googled it, I'll give that one to jja 
I was already wondering the fuck he's brabbling about co poisoning, but I just explained it with his general lack of knowledge.

Hahah    i read jjas post and was wondering why they talking about his flue stack.
Stupid me didnt catch on the inital typo and thought they purposefully talking about fluE.
Haha

Oh Canada http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site/Documents/Language-guide.pdf

One of their guiding principles is "Plain language. Use simple language that is easy to understand." Then if you skip down to page 10 they want the language changed from easy to understand to the diversity equity and inclusion version of language. Patient becomes community member. Client becomes individual assessing services. Post modernizing language does not make it clearer.

Oh Canada

Anecdotally I haven't been ill since lockdown started and now the schools are back me and the Glorious Leader are ill.
Flu and colds have been way down here too but now they're going up, everyone with symptoms has to get tested.

That sucks! Every time I sneeze I'm afraid I have the corone.

Looks like this might not be the best time to start that mink farm that you always wanted:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2020/08/17/coronavirus-mink-first-us-cases/

You honestly think that only dictatorships like North Korea or China bash protesters? Do you know that in America protest requires a permission from the city or state, How many of current protests are even legal? Let's be clear here; we don't have protests in America today, we have revolt and revolution against everything that is right and wholesome. Democrats are not supporting the just cause. No they are supporting hooligans, socialist mob of outlaws and criminals. They took away our constitutional rights under the pretense of fake Corona virus and now they will take law and order from us under the pretense of a protest.

Evidence for fake Corona virus? And what constitutional rights have been taken away from you? Be specific and clear, not your usual hyperbole. In other words, be an adult.

Quote from: New Earth on August 20, 2020, 12:17:40 AM

You honestly think that only dictatorships like North Korea or China bash protesters? Do you know that in America protest requires a permission from the city or state, How many of current protests are even legal? Let's be clear here; we don't have protests in America today, we have revolt and revolution against everything that is right and wholesome. Democrats are not supporting the just cause. No they are supporting hooligans, socialist mob of outlaws and criminals. They took away our constitutional rights under the pretense of fake Corona virus and now they will take law and order from us under the pretense of a protest.

Evidence for fake Corona virus? And what constitutional rights have been taken away from you? Be specific and clear, not your usual hyperbole. In other words, be an adult.

New Earth thinks that the entire world is pretending to die of corona virus just to make Trump look bad.

Quote from: New Earth on August 20, 2020, 12:17:40 AM

You honestly think that only dictatorships like North Korea or China bash protesters? Do you know that in America protest requires a permission from the city or state, How many of current protests are even legal? Let's be clear here; we don't have protests in America today, we have revolt and revolution against everything that is right and wholesome. Democrats are not supporting the just cause. No they are supporting hooligans, socialist mob of outlaws and criminals. They took away our constitutional rights under the pretense of fake Corona virus and now they will take law and order from us under the pretense of a protest.

Evidence for fake Corona virus? And what constitutional rights have been taken away from you? Be specific and clear, not your usual hyperbole. In other words, be an adult.

Evidence? OK by how much did Corona virus reduce world population? How many people are now in the world in comparison with before Corona? Why don't you give me evidence for Corona. and No I don't want conventional BS from illuminatti and deep state. Give me independent facts. I did my research to conclude Corona is fake, you on the other hand watched TV. Now what constitutional rights have been taken away? Freedom of Assembly (social distancing) Freedom of Religion (churches closed) Freedom of Expression (must wear mask) Basically an entire first amendment is gone.

Quote from: Stash on August 20, 2020, 12:24:43 AM

Quote from: New Earth on August 20, 2020, 12:17:40 AM

You honestly think that only dictatorships like North Korea or China bash protesters? Do you know that in America protest requires a permission from the city or state, How many of current protests are even legal? Let's be clear here; we don't have protests in America today, we have revolt and revolution against everything that is right and wholesome. Democrats are not supporting the just cause. No they are supporting hooligans, socialist mob of outlaws and criminals. They took away our constitutional rights under the pretense of fake Corona virus and now they will take law and order from us under the pretense of a protest.

Evidence for fake Corona virus? And what constitutional rights have been taken away from you? Be specific and clear, not your usual hyperbole. In other words, be an adult.

Evidence? OK by how much did Corona virus reduce world population? How many people are now in the world in comparison with before Corona? Why don't you give me evidence for Corona. and No I don't want conventional BS from illuminatti and deep state. Give me independent facts.

What do you mean by "independent facts"? You mean that the entire world has been in lockdown?

I did my research to conclude Corona is fake, you on the other hand watched TV.

What research might that have been?

Now what constitutional rights have been taken away? Freedom of Assembly (social distancing) Freedom of Religion (churches closed) Freedom of Expression (must wear mask) Basically an entire first amendment is gone.

Social distancing doesn't necessarily mean no assembly. Churches closed? Do you have to go to a church to worship your god? Freedom of expression is destroyed because you must wear a mask in public places? You also have to wear clothes in public places. Has that destroyed the first amendment as well?

Sometime in the future the Supreme Court will rule that masks are unconstitutional. Masks should be optional not enforced by government, that is pure tyranny. Please don't compare mask with wearing clothes. Since when a mask is part of our daily attire? Oh yes since democrats came up with a fake virus. Even if the virus is real it is unconstitutional to enforce masks. We had many epidemics of flue and all kinds of shit, we never had to wear damn masks, if you guys can't see that this is political I don't know how to help you.

Sometime in the future the Supreme Court will rule that masks are unconstitutional. Masks should be optional not enforced by government, that is pure tyranny. Please don't compare mask with wearing clothes. Since when a mask is part of our daily attire? Oh yes since democrats came up with a fake virus. Even if the virus is real it is unconstitutional to enforce masks. We had many epidemics of flue and all kinds of shit, we never had to wear damn masks, if you guys can't see that this is political I don't know how to help you.

It's just a mask.  Worn to protect other people.  Jesus Christ.  Refusing to deal with a minor inconvenience to save the lives of OTHER people is pretty much what you would expect from a Trump supporter.  Selfish, and such a crybaby they can't handle putting some cloth over their mouth. My God, a mask! It's not part of our daily attire! Let people die, I don't like masks! Whaaa. I dun wanna!

I can't imagine what these people would do if they had to suffer for real. Probably just curl up and die, if wearing a mask is so horrible that they can't handle it and have to protest and yell and howl the streets.

Man, what spoiled babies.  They can't even handle putting on a mask... weak and pitiful. Grow a backbone and for once, think of someone else.

I did my research to conclude Corona is fake, you on the other hand watched TV.

Have you ever talked with someone who had covid-19?  I have.  He said that he and some of the people that he works with had it and a few had a rough couple of days at the worst of it, but they were otherwise lucky enough to get through it without too much trouble.

Quote from: Stash on August 20, 2020, 12:24:43 AM

Quote from: New Earth on August 20, 2020, 12:17:40 AM

You honestly think that only dictatorships like North Korea or China bash protesters? Do you know that in America protest requires a permission from the city or state, How many of current protests are even legal? Let's be clear here; we don't have protests in America today, we have revolt and revolution against everything that is right and wholesome. Democrats are not supporting the just cause. No they are supporting hooligans, socialist mob of outlaws and criminals. They took away our constitutional rights under the pretense of fake Corona virus and now they will take law and order from us under the pretense of a protest.

Evidence for fake Corona virus? And what constitutional rights have been taken away from you? Be specific and clear, not your usual hyperbole. In other words, be an adult.

Evidence? OK by how much did Corona virus reduce world population? How many people are now in the world in comparison with before Corona? Why don't you give me evidence for Corona. and No I don't want conventional BS from illuminatti and deep state. Give me independent facts. I did my research to conclude Corona is fake, you on the other hand watched TV. Now what constitutional rights have been taken away? Freedom of Assembly (social distancing) Freedom of Religion (churches closed) Freedom of Expression (must wear mask) Basically an entire first amendment is gone.

You missed out the bit where the radical leftist marxists are going to take away you guns and enact forced abortions.    You are slipping.

We had many epidemics of flue and all kinds of shit, we never had to wear damn masks, if you guys can't see that this is political I don't know how to help you.

You are factually incorrect as per usual:

"In the 1918 flu pandemic, not wearing a mask was illegal in some parts of America."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/americas/flu-america-1918-masks-intl-hnk/index.html

There were anti maskers back then too. There seems to be muppets in every century