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« Reply #5190 on: February 09, 2022, 01:33:08 PM »
haha who would i fantasize of kicking out of hospital?
these yahoos're hurting my quality of life and millions of other peoples quality of life by actively being an irritating WSHTOLACKLESS.
they represent <25% (half the repubs) of the population and are causing 80% of the covid hospitalizations.
insanity.
USA 65% total pop
Canada 80% total pop

i actually want people in the hospital.
there are 500,000 back logged surgeries in canada.
that is waaay more than the hospitalizations for covid at 65,000 since 2yrs ago.
that is waaay more than the domestic abuse and fentayl OD (~2,000?).




https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-toxic-drugs-oct-2021-1.6279018

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« Reply #5191 on: February 09, 2022, 01:35:47 PM »



If I have to choose between a cancer patient and someone who refused the vax and went to a covid party, I know who I'd pick.


i understand why they question the motives and ethicacy.
it's the whole two patients get wheeled into ER, one is the robber, other is the cop who was shot by robber.
who does ER dr save first?


but it's odd the Mods don't understand the triage is happening right now in favour of the stupids.

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« Reply #5192 on: February 09, 2022, 01:37:42 PM »
Because things are already getting better.
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« Reply #5193 on: February 09, 2022, 01:38:36 PM »
oh
covid caused him to get pneumonia and pneumonia killed him.
aaah
not the covid.

if i cut the brakes to your car and it smashed into a wall.
it was the wall that killed you, not me.
Nope. COVID is a kind of pneumonia. Just check and see if pneumonia is equally concerning as Covid. To me, it seems it is.

Before covid you never really heard of people with pneumonia going on to develop pulmonary fibrosis.

Now many people have ended up with it. You don't get better from pulmonary fibrosis. Lungs filled with scarred, dead tissue where no gas exchange takes place. Permanently

Covid is far more than 'a type of pneumonia'. Last I checked, pneumonia isn't able to cause dick shrinkage. Covid fucks you up all over. Lungs, heart, brain and anything your blood makes contact with. Including your dick.
All kinds of pneumonia causes damage to other organs when it becomes serious. Pneumonia did kill 4 million people a year and it was ok and now suddenly it becomes not ok? If you are dead who cares about your dick? And if you are weak enough to be seriously affected by Covid you probably won’t be using your dick anyway.
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« Reply #5194 on: February 09, 2022, 01:39:04 PM »
haha who would i fantasize of kicking out of hospital?
these yahoos're hurting my quality of life and millions of other peoples quality of life by actively being an irritating WSHTOLACKLESS.
they represent <25% (half the repubs) of the population and are causing 80% of the covid hospitalizations.
insanity.
USA 65% total pop
Canada 80% total pop

i actually want people in the hospital.
there are 500,000 back logged surgeries in canada.
that is waaay more than the hospitalizations for covid at 65,000 since 2yrs ago.
that is waaay more than the domestic abuse and fentayl OD (~2,000?).




https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-toxic-drugs-oct-2021-1.6279018

Republicans are causing 80% of the hospitalizations in Canada? Wow.
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« Reply #5195 on: February 09, 2022, 01:39:16 PM »
jsut stop admitting them for covid - only regular hospital issues and vaccinated covid care and vax adverse covid care.
the everyday regular antivasker freedom fighter can stay at home.

How do antivaxxers both think COVID is a lie but also get upset about being banned from the hospital if they catch it?
How do lefties
Because they are not actually of the left.  They just self-identify as such.
That's what I'm seeing here unfortunately :(

Are you normally this binary?

You think everything can boil down to a single issue?

So someone who believes in science vaccines, climate change, women's rights to have abortions, gay rights, isn't a religious zealot, loathes guns is some far right wing nut job because he would triage some selfish anti vaxxer moron to the bottom of the queue in a highly burdeoned and stressed hospital environment

Nice trolling ::)

Just let anyone take a hospital bed then because they're scared they tested positive and feel like crap. Execellent use of facilities there. Who gives a shit for triage. First come, first serve
Look who's trolling. That's not at all what I said. I literally said YOU FUCKING TRIAGE PATIENTS, as opposed to locking your doors to The Stupids™ like you guys keep suggesting. If there's not enough beds, and someone needs one that has a better prognosis than a person that's already in a bed, guess what? The person with the worse prognosis loses that ICU bed and gets moved to palliative care or wherever makes more sense.

History won't look kindly on anyone championing closing hospitals off to sick and dying people just because the masses think they have some moral high ground. You lost that high ground when you decided you wanted to actually entertain banning sick people from getting healthcare.


Yes, I read your word play, and I have said many times anti vaxxers who run afoul of their own selfishness that they can end up on the bottom of triage. So what? In an overlly burdened hospital system that may mean more than a few are sent home and will probably die. Given their calamity is entirely preventable and they have been told thousands of times to get vaccinated and they have the same access to good information as everyone else, their situation and crisis is no one's fault but their own. Your attempts to pin it on people who do the right thing doesn't fly.

America is no stranger to turning people away without insurance. You yanks hardly have a moral highground when it comes to health care.

Antivaxxers are 'sovereign' citizens. They have no concept of civil freedoms or running by the social contract we all entered on birth. If they wish to leave or do things their own way, that, and the consequences, are on them.

If our hospitals were running peachy, no problems, help the sick and needy, no matter how many screws loose they have. But if we are closing elective surgeries, shitting down 'non essential' screening and testing, have a quarter of the work force off sick or forced to isolate, running low on ventilators and beds, having vulnerable people forced to be exposed to the corona virus because of the level of contamination and unable to isolate covid patients from the rest of the wards, then yes. Triage them

Not feeling much compassion for anti vaxxers in a deadly pandemic doesn't make people far right nut jobs.

In my eyes, they are indiscriminate manslaughterers. They are selfish and dangerous and I don't give a fuck if they fall victim to themselves

If a serial killer got himself killed by falling on his own knife - would you think 'that poor bloke' or 'deserved'

Maybe the difference between you and I is the culpability we apply to anti vaxxers for the level of death, illness and economic damage we see today. I absolutely place a large part of the continued problem square on those who snub and/or spread misinformation encouraging others to avoid sound health advice.

One of my friends from years ago fell down the rabbit hole of bullshit and is full on antivaxxer now. He's made his choice. He's happy to take every benefit and assistance from society but when asked to give back to ensure the safety of the collective he refuses. He's pissed to be told if he needs to go to hospital, unless it's a life/death emergency, he won't be allowed in due to refusing the vaccine without any good reason. I have zero sympathy

Give and take. We can't all be selfish sovereign dickheads looking out only for number 1
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« Reply #5196 on: February 09, 2022, 01:41:04 PM »
That's an incredible demonstration of failing to identify hypocrisy.
I didn't fail to identify it, I'm just pissed.

This isn't much different then the assholes who protested seatbelt mandates back in the 60s.

I do not know why you all think hospitals in the US are overwhelmed with covid patients right now.

Or why kabool thinks we're still turning cancer patients away.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/hospital-icu-stress-level-tracker-n1287375

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“The surge is real,” Havican said in an email. “What’s also causing our volume to increase so dramatically is that during the first wave, people with other medical conditions were not going to hospitals for treatment due to the pandemic. Now, all those patients who stayed away the first time, are coming in for treatment — as they should.”

ICU stress is a companion to the IHME’s hospital stress level metric, which measures the total number of beds in use by Covid patients. These patients, regardless of whether they were admitted for the disease or contracted the disease while hospitalized, require more resources to care for, said Dr. Ali Mokdad, a professor at the institute.


I think one of main issues in US hospitals are staffing shortages. Same with nursing homes. People are burnt out.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/944379919/new-data-reveal-which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours
This is why.
When your hospital has 20% of its beds being taken by covid patients... that's an issue.  Especially since its not like the beds were empty without covid.  Not like every hospital was nearly empty before the pandemic or even during.
Even 10% of beds being occupied by a single illness is pretty bad.  Go search your county, see what it says your local hospital is at.

Lets take an extreme example: Orlando Health-health Central Hospital (Ocoee, FL)

Adult inpatient beds occupied by Covid patients: 41%
Total beds occupied:97% (So they're kinda full with other stuff)
Total Adult ICU Beds occupeid by covid patients:38%
Total Adult ICU beds used: 53%
Average Covid patient number(7 day average): 77

Don't look so good.  But its probably a small hospital...
Adventhealth Orlando (Orlando, FL)    
Adult inpatient beds occupied by Covid patients: 17%
Total beds occupied: 97%    
Total Adult ICU Beds occupeid by covid patients: 22%
Total Adult ICU beds used: 99%    
Average Covid patient number(7 day average): 410

A much bigger hospital and still, pretty damn full.  Most of those covid patients wouldn't be there if they got the vaccine as most people in the ICU now are unvaxxed.  But they didn't so now 22% of ICU beds are occupied by a preventable illness and its clear that they don't have spare beds but probably have people who need them for non-covid related stuff.
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« Reply #5197 on: February 09, 2022, 01:41:11 PM »
Okay nerds, does this mean covid is from Antarctica? I KNEW IT WAS THE PENGUINS https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1491297779855278082.html
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« Reply #5198 on: February 09, 2022, 01:44:46 PM »
There are 18 covid patients in my local hospital, and 41 at the bigger hospital 20 miles from here.  Wow, bursting at the seams. It doesn't say they're in ICU, though.
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« Reply #5199 on: February 09, 2022, 01:46:00 PM »
Because things are already getting better.

You're betting on covid unable to reinfect people. 'it just goes away' Trump said lol

Naturally or vaccine acquired immunity is only temporary and omicron apparantly has a few tricks up its sleeve to avoid immune detection

Sure, your prognosis from having a previous infection or vaccine in the past betters your odds, but given how infectious it is, (you guys were getting nearly 1 million infections a day), even a small percent needing medical intervention is huge in number

And something like covid - will always be a concern for older people or people with medical conditions. Things might look better for you, but not for them.


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« Reply #5200 on: February 09, 2022, 01:48:07 PM »
There are 18 covid patients in my local hospital, and 41 at the bigger hospital 20 miles from here.  Wow, bursting at the seams. It doesn't say they're in ICU, though.

I don't know why you're so dead set on claiming COVID isn't a big deal or that hospitals are doing just fine.

It's weird.

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« Reply #5201 on: February 09, 2022, 01:57:40 PM »
oh
covid caused him to get pneumonia and pneumonia killed him.
aaah
not the covid.

if i cut the brakes to your car and it smashed into a wall.
it was the wall that killed you, not me.
Nope. COVID is a kind of pneumonia. Just check and see if pneumonia is equally concerning as Covid. To me, it seems it is.

Before covid you never really heard of people with pneumonia going on to develop pulmonary fibrosis.

Now many people have ended up with it. You don't get better from pulmonary fibrosis. Lungs filled with scarred, dead tissue where no gas exchange takes place. Permanently

Covid is far more than 'a type of pneumonia'. Last I checked, pneumonia isn't able to cause dick shrinkage. Covid fucks you up all over. Lungs, heart, brain and anything your blood makes contact with. Including your dick.
All kinds of pneumonia causes damage to other organs when it becomes serious. Pneumonia did kill 4 million people a year and it was ok and now suddenly it becomes not ok? If you are dead who cares about your dick? And if you are weak enough to be seriously affected by Covid you probably won’t be using your dick anyway.

You going to back up your 4 million dead from pneumonia or do we just take some randoms word for it.

And is that figure from developed countries with health care? Or is the bulk coming from countries with little to no healthcare

During one of Americas worst years for influenza, which can lead to pneumonia (2018)
https://www.cdc.gov/dotw/pneumonia/index.html

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In the United States, 1.5 million people were diagnosed with pneumonia in an emergency department during 2018. Unfortunately, more than 40,000 people died from the disease that year in the United States. Most of the people affected by pneumonia in the United States are adults.

Vaccines and appropriate treatment (like antibiotics and antivirals) could prevent many of these deaths—globally and in the United States.


40K dead. Look at the number of infections and dead in 2 years with covid

A lot of people will never make a full recovery, like many do with influenza

Next time you want to lie, make it a little harder, disputeone


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« Reply #5202 on: February 09, 2022, 01:59:17 PM »
There are 18 covid patients in my local hospital, and 41 at the bigger hospital 20 miles from here.  Wow, bursting at the seams. It doesn't say they're in ICU, though.

I don't know why you're so dead set on claiming COVID isn't a big deal or that hospitals are doing just fine.

It's weird.

If hospitals have to put a freeze on elective surgeries and other screening diagnosis - they are NOT doing fine

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« Reply #5203 on: February 09, 2022, 01:59:27 PM »
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« Reply #5204 on: February 09, 2022, 02:01:51 PM »
There are 18 covid patients in my local hospital, and 41 at the bigger hospital 20 miles from here.  Wow, bursting at the seams. It doesn't say they're in ICU, though.

I don't know why you're so dead set on claiming COVID isn't a big deal or that hospitals are doing just fine.

It's weird.

If hospitals have to put a freeze on elective surgeries and other screening diagnosis - they are NOT doing fine

JJA, we talked about your strawmen before. I never said covid wasn't a big deal.

The hospitals aren't putting a freeze on elective surgeries or other screening diagnoses here. Maybe in places that are still surging, or haven't quite started to come back down yet.
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« Reply #5205 on: February 09, 2022, 02:09:46 PM »
There are 18 covid patients in my local hospital, and 41 at the bigger hospital 20 miles from here.  Wow, bursting at the seams. It doesn't say they're in ICU, though.

I don't know why you're so dead set on claiming COVID isn't a big deal or that hospitals are doing just fine.

It's weird.

If hospitals have to put a freeze on elective surgeries and other screening diagnosis - they are NOT doing fine

JJA, we talked about your strawmen before. I never said covid wasn't a big deal.

The hospitals aren't putting a freeze on elective surgeries or other screening diagnoses here. Maybe in places that are still surging, or haven't quite started to come back down yet.

The names Masalang 8)

I qualified my statement with 'IF'. It's okay. I know literacy is not big in America. Many places around the world are doing this though. There is a wide word outside of your country.

Some might be doing it out of precaution, others out of necessity. Either way, health care around the world is facing its biggest taxing in modern history and a lot of the problem is preventable

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« Reply #5206 on: February 09, 2022, 02:14:26 PM »
There are 18 covid patients in my local hospital, and 41 at the bigger hospital 20 miles from here.  Wow, bursting at the seams. It doesn't say they're in ICU, though.

I don't know why you're so dead set on claiming COVID isn't a big deal or that hospitals are doing just fine.

It's weird.

If hospitals have to put a freeze on elective surgeries and other screening diagnosis - they are NOT doing fine

JJA, we talked about your strawmen before. I never said covid wasn't a big deal.

The hospitals aren't putting a freeze on elective surgeries or other screening diagnoses here. Maybe in places that are still surging, or haven't quite started to come back down yet.

We've talked about your overuse of calling things a strawman before.

You certainly seem to be downplaying how badly hospitals are being hit. Ridiculing people who mention cancer patients are not getting treatments. Responding sarcastically to articles about how bad it is by saying your local hospital is doing fine (Is 40 a lot? Out of how many beds? ICU?) and MAYBE some other places might have issues but it will get better.

It's weird.

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« Reply #5207 on: February 09, 2022, 02:16:54 PM »
oh
covid caused him to get pneumonia and pneumonia killed him.
aaah
not the covid.

if i cut the brakes to your car and it smashed into a wall.
it was the wall that killed you, not me.
Nope. COVID is a kind of pneumonia. Just check and see if pneumonia is equally concerning as Covid. To me, it seems it is.

Before covid you never really heard of people with pneumonia going on to develop pulmonary fibrosis.

Now many people have ended up with it. You don't get better from pulmonary fibrosis. Lungs filled with scarred, dead tissue where no gas exchange takes place. Permanently

Covid is far more than 'a type of pneumonia'. Last I checked, pneumonia isn't able to cause dick shrinkage. Covid fucks you up all over. Lungs, heart, brain and anything your blood makes contact with. Including your dick.
All kinds of pneumonia causes damage to other organs when it becomes serious. Pneumonia did kill 4 million people a year and it was ok and now suddenly it becomes not ok? If you are dead who cares about your dick? And if you are weak enough to be seriously affected by Covid you probably won’t be using your dick anyway.

You going to back up your 4 million dead from pneumonia or do we just take some randoms word for it.

And is that figure from developed countries with health care? Or is the bulk coming from countries with little to no healthcare

During one of Americas worst years for influenza, which can lead to pneumonia (2018)
https://www.cdc.gov/dotw/pneumonia/index.html

Quote
In the United States, 1.5 million people were diagnosed with pneumonia in an emergency department during 2018. Unfortunately, more than 40,000 people died from the disease that year in the United States. Most of the people affected by pneumonia in the United States are adults.

Vaccines and appropriate treatment (like antibiotics and antivirals) could prevent many of these deaths—globally and in the United States.


40K dead. Look at the number of infections and dead in 2 years with covid

A lot of people will never make a full recovery, like many do with influenza

Next time you want to lie, make it a little harder, disputeone
Sources have shown that many people dying because of pneumonia are not registered as dying because of pneumonia because doctors tend to think their pre existing conditions is the underlying cause of their death. Hence this number is grossly underestimated. Check data in Singapore. Try looking for number of people whose death is “ contributed to” but not “ caused by” pneumonia.
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« Reply #5208 on: February 09, 2022, 02:20:51 PM »
There are 18 covid patients in my local hospital, and 41 at the bigger hospital 20 miles from here.  Wow, bursting at the seams. It doesn't say they're in ICU, though.

I don't know why you're so dead set on claiming COVID isn't a big deal or that hospitals are doing just fine.

It's weird.

If hospitals have to put a freeze on elective surgeries and other screening diagnosis - they are NOT doing fine

JJA, we talked about your strawmen before. I never said covid wasn't a big deal.

The hospitals aren't putting a freeze on elective surgeries or other screening diagnoses here. Maybe in places that are still surging, or haven't quite started to come back down yet.

We've talked about your overuse of calling things a strawman before.

You certainly seem to be downplaying how badly hospitals are being hit. Ridiculing people who mention cancer patients are not getting treatments. Responding sarcastically to articles about how bad it is by saying your local hospital is doing fine (Is 40 a lot? Out of how many beds? ICU?) and MAYBE some other places might have issues but it will get better.

It's weird.

Canberra, population of 430K. ~99% vaccinated. 2 people currently in ICU because of Covid. 1 on a ventilator (they don't tell us the vaccination status)

I'd say our hospitals would be smashed if we had a shitty vaccination uptake. Good thing we got a smart population here

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« Reply #5209 on: February 09, 2022, 02:24:34 PM »
Canberra, population of 430K. ~99% vaccinated. 2 people currently in ICU because of Covid. 1 on a ventilator (they don't tell us the vaccination status)

I'd say our hospitals would be smashed if we had a shitty vaccination uptake. Good thing we got a smart population here

Makes me want to move there but I can't because you guys won't let us in.   :(

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« Reply #5210 on: February 09, 2022, 02:26:44 PM »
oh
covid caused him to get pneumonia and pneumonia killed him.
aaah
not the covid.

if i cut the brakes to your car and it smashed into a wall.
it was the wall that killed you, not me.
Nope. COVID is a kind of pneumonia. Just check and see if pneumonia is equally concerning as Covid. To me, it seems it is.

Before covid you never really heard of people with pneumonia going on to develop pulmonary fibrosis.

Now many people have ended up with it. You don't get better from pulmonary fibrosis. Lungs filled with scarred, dead tissue where no gas exchange takes place. Permanently

Covid is far more than 'a type of pneumonia'. Last I checked, pneumonia isn't able to cause dick shrinkage. Covid fucks you up all over. Lungs, heart, brain and anything your blood makes contact with. Including your dick.
All kinds of pneumonia causes damage to other organs when it becomes serious. Pneumonia did kill 4 million people a year and it was ok and now suddenly it becomes not ok? If you are dead who cares about your dick? And if you are weak enough to be seriously affected by Covid you probably won’t be using your dick anyway.

You going to back up your 4 million dead from pneumonia or do we just take some randoms word for it.

And is that figure from developed countries with health care? Or is the bulk coming from countries with little to no healthcare

During one of Americas worst years for influenza, which can lead to pneumonia (2018)
https://www.cdc.gov/dotw/pneumonia/index.html

Quote
In the United States, 1.5 million people were diagnosed with pneumonia in an emergency department during 2018. Unfortunately, more than 40,000 people died from the disease that year in the United States. Most of the people affected by pneumonia in the United States are adults.

Vaccines and appropriate treatment (like antibiotics and antivirals) could prevent many of these deaths—globally and in the United States.


40K dead. Look at the number of infections and dead in 2 years with covid

A lot of people will never make a full recovery, like many do with influenza

Next time you want to lie, make it a little harder, disputeone
Sources have shown that many people dying because of pneumonia are not registered as dying because of pneumonia because doctors tend to think their pre existing conditions is the underlying cause of their death. Hence this number is grossly underestimated. Check data in Singapore. Try looking for number of people whose death is “ contributed to” but not “ caused by” pneumonia.

Or you could just post and link the data yourself. You know, like most people do when they make a claim. Anyway I showed you data from America. Compare that data with how many people died due to covid vs the entirety of those who died each year from influenza before covid existed

I'm disappointed in you D1. Thought maybe just once you could be a man of your word. Can't say I'm surprised anyway. Oh well
« Last Edit: February 09, 2022, 02:34:58 PM by Masalang the Torpedo »

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« Reply #5211 on: February 09, 2022, 02:27:46 PM »
Out of interest, does Australia have a strong sociopolitical divide as the UK and US do?
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« Reply #5212 on: February 09, 2022, 02:29:59 PM »
Canberra, population of 430K. ~99% vaccinated. 2 people currently in ICU because of Covid. 1 on a ventilator (they don't tell us the vaccination status)

I'd say our hospitals would be smashed if we had a shitty vaccination uptake. Good thing we got a smart population here

Makes me want to move there but I can't because you guys won't let us in.   :(

We are opening up again in a few weeks to international travellers who have been vaccinated 8)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-07/international-covid-borders-to-reopen-scott-morrison/100810580

Unfortunately for WISHTOLAUGH, he is not welcome on account of being an non vaccinated dumbarse so his plans to cough on us down under can't happen

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« Reply #5213 on: February 09, 2022, 02:33:28 PM »
Out of interest, does Australia have a strong sociopolitical divide as the UK and US do?

Yes and no I'd say

We have our opinions, we have some 'freedumb' protestors and we exchange a few harsh words but generally we are apathetic in regards to politics.

However, if the protestors with 'Rambo Trump' flags are an indication, we are sliding to being bitterly polarised

The joy of social media.... I blame that for fucking with democratic cohesion

Also, just to add, as voting is compulsory in Australia, it's much easier to accept the result is the will of the public.
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« Reply #5214 on: February 09, 2022, 02:35:08 PM »
Unfortunately for WISHTOLAUGH, he is not welcome on account of being an non vaccinated dumbarse so his plans to cough on us down under can't happen

That would require him to find Australia on a map.  I think you're safe.

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« Reply #5215 on: February 09, 2022, 03:31:39 PM »
There are 18 covid patients in my local hospital, and 41 at the bigger hospital 20 miles from here.  Wow, bursting at the seams. It doesn't say they're in ICU, though.

I don't know why you're so dead set on claiming COVID isn't a big deal or that hospitals are doing just fine.

It's weird.

If hospitals have to put a freeze on elective surgeries and other screening diagnosis - they are NOT doing fine

JJA, we talked about your strawmen before. I never said covid wasn't a big deal.

The hospitals aren't putting a freeze on elective surgeries or other screening diagnoses here. Maybe in places that are still surging, or haven't quite started to come back down yet.

We've talked about your overuse of calling things a strawman before.

You certainly seem to be downplaying how badly hospitals are being hit. Ridiculing people who mention cancer patients are not getting treatments. Responding sarcastically to articles about how bad it is by saying your local hospital is doing fine (Is 40 a lot? Out of how many beds? ICU?) and MAYBE some other places might have issues but it will get better.

It's weird.

If you'd stop building those strawmen, I'd stop mentioning it.

Who did I ridicule? Do you want me to pretend that 18 people in the hospital with covid is some kind of nightmare that I am panicking about? I don't even know if those people are in the hospital because they have covid, or if it's incidental, it also didn't show that any of them are in ICU.  It is true that some places still have issues, and it will get better. It's already getting better! Case numbers are falling dramatically. We went from 500,000 new cases on Jan 6th to 120,000 new cases on Feb 6th.

What's weird is fantasizing about kicking people out of the hospital. 
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #5216 on: February 09, 2022, 04:05:18 PM »



If I have to choose between a cancer patient and someone who refused the vax and went to a covid party, I know who I'd pick.


i understand why they question the motives and ethicacy.
it's the whole two patients get wheeled into ER, one is the robber, other is the cop who was shot by robber.
who does ER dr save first?


but it's odd the Mods don't understand the triage is happening right now in favour of the stupids.
No. What's odd is how many of the SJW-types are calling to outright ban anyone without a vaccine from getting medical attention. That's insanely fucked up and it should give folks pause. You're turning into the very monsters you want to rid the world of.

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« Reply #5217 on: February 09, 2022, 04:14:30 PM »
Some hospitals might be at capacity but you have to look at the daily admissions.  Without a bunch of covid everywhere they're not creating a lot of patients.  The hospital situation will improve over the next few weeks regardless of what sort of countermeasures we use against covid.

Things are actually going pretty well if you pay attention to the numbers and not the headlines.
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« Reply #5218 on: February 09, 2022, 04:18:11 PM »
Some hospitals might be at capacity but you have to look at the daily admissions.  Without a bunch of covid everywhere they're not creating a lot of patients.  The hospital situation will improve over the next few weeks regardless of what sort of countermeasures we use against covid.

Things are actually going pretty well if you pay attention to the numbers and not the headlines.

That's what I thought. I know we had an enormous amount of cases in January, and hospitalizations were really bad for about 2 weeks, but the numbers are falling rapidly.
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« Reply #5219 on: February 09, 2022, 04:44:05 PM »
If you'd stop building those strawmen, I'd stop mentioning it.

Who did I ridicule?

This snarky comment, in response to his completely valid point that cancer victims are going without treatment because of anti-vax COVID victims filling the hospitals.

I do not know why you all think hospitals in the US are overwhelmed with covid patients right now.

Or why kabool thinks we're still turning cancer patients away.

Do you want me to pretend that 18 people in the hospital with covid is some kind of nightmare that I am panicking about? I don't even know if those people are in the hospital because they have covid, or if it's incidental, it also didn't show that any of them are in ICU.  It is true that some places still have issues, and it will get better. It's already getting better! Case numbers are falling dramatically. We went from 500,000 new cases on Jan 6th to 120,000 new cases on Feb 6th.

You were presented with articles showing that yes, cancer patients were being denied treatment and your response was to ignore them and trot out a comment about how only 18 people in your local hospital had covid.

Do you want me to pretend you mentioning "only 18 people" with no real idea if that is a lot or a little of if they are serious or ok was anything but trying to make everything seem fine and dandy?  Responding to a factual article with "but look over here" is just trying to distract and deflect.

"Everything is fine because 18 is a low number" is what it sounded like to me.  It sounded to me like a pretty transparent attempt to minimize the problem using incomplete anecdotal evidence. 

You are saying it will get better but you don't know that, nobody does. I hope it does but I thought that before omnicron, and delta before that. I keep thinking it's getting better, until it's not. I really hope it's over this time, I really do. But wishing it's not a problem doesn't make it so.

I don't know why you are trying to downplay the severe problems due to overworked nurses and doctors that are due to the unvaccinated getting sick.

It's weird.

What's weird is fantasizing about kicking people out of the hospital.

What's weird about debating how to triage patients?  I think anti-vaxers should have less priority than cancer patients.  I never said I wanted to kick them out of bed, or fantasize about it. Isn't strawmanning frowned upon here? Could have sworn I heard that somewhere.