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Novak? You mean novax?!

hahahaha I like it! 

Quote from: Lorddave on January 08, 2022, 11:21:17 PM

Quote from: Shifter on January 08, 2022, 06:47:15 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 08, 2022, 06:27:35 PM

Shitler, read what I posted.

I did. I'm still dumbfounded you think 'no point' ranting about the unvaccinated anymore'

You think their shitty lifestyle choices will only impact themselves or something?

If only......

More like
Your ranting is only going to make them dig their heels in more.

These people are so far down the rabbit hole no amount of logic or reason (or ranting) will pull them out. I won't disavow the opportunity to hang shit on them when karma bites them in the arse. The sorts of people who refuse vaccines and especially the sort who get on a platform and spread misinformation, conspiracies and bullshit should absolutely be called out on their lies or at least corrected for future posterity.

Should despicable grifters like Cucker Tarlson (for example) not be called out? Just because his brain dead fans will entrench their BS antivaxxer ideologies 'even more'?

To hell with that. To stay silent may as well be collaborating with those arseholes. You're here on a flat earth forum. Like other globe earthers, why? Do you think your facts, logic and reasoning will break through and get even the most staunch (non troll) flat earther to realise they are wrong? Or do you enjoy trolling and ranting at them?

When anti vaxxer morons like most of those you see on sorryantivaxxer and the reddit Herman Cain award threads turn into worm food - they don't deserve anyone's sympathy. People can celebrate because those fools can no longer damage and weaken the society in which they live. Frankly, that is a cause to be happy.

Look at trump
He limped out 1.5yrs later to push vax.
Too late.
The golem has rejected him.

Quote from: Shifter on January 08, 2022, 06:47:15 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 08, 2022, 06:27:35 PM

Shitler, read what I posted.

I did. I'm still dumbfounded you think 'no point' ranting about the unvaccinated anymore'

You think their shitty lifestyle choices will only impact themselves or something?

If only......

More like
Your ranting is only going to make them dig their heels in more.

That's not really it, either.

Kabool was wishing for the hospitals to get back to normal so people with cancer (for example) could get their treatments. The hospitals aren't going to get back to normal for awhile because even the maximally vaccinated people are catching the corone. They are going to the hospital for other things, and being found to have the corone. This still endangers the cancer patients.

Shitler's favorite pastime is ranting about the unvaccinated, and cheering their deaths. He can't even follow a conversation without a little bit of foam coming out of his mouth. There is absolutely no point in ranting about vaccines in regards to the conversation I was having with Kabool. 

Quote from: Lorddave on January 08, 2022, 11:21:17 PM

Quote from: Shifter on January 08, 2022, 06:47:15 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 08, 2022, 06:27:35 PM

Shitler, read what I posted.

I did. I'm still dumbfounded you think 'no point' ranting about the unvaccinated anymore'

You think their shitty lifestyle choices will only impact themselves or something?

If only......

More like
Your ranting is only going to make them dig their heels in more.

That's not really it, either.

Kabool was wishing for the hospitals to get back to normal so people with cancer (for example) could get their treatments. The hospitals aren't going to get back to normal for awhile because even the maximally vaccinated people are catching the corone. They are going to the hospital for other things, and being found to have the corone. This still endangers the cancer patients.

Shitler's favorite pastime is ranting about the unvaccinated, and cheering their deaths. He can't even follow a conversation without a little bit of foam coming out of his mouth. There is absolutely no point in ranting about vaccines in regards to the conversation I was having with Kabool.

Make some sense. Why would I be cheering but then foam coming out of my mouth?

Also, Australia doesn't have rabies like America so you wont find people foaming at the mouth here in any event

Given the omicron variant there is a point to getting a vaccine to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed. It has orders of magnitude faster spread and unvaccinated people are still far more likely to end up in hospital than vaccinated ones. So with large swathes of the population becoming infected in such a short time, for them not to be vaccinated would cripple your health system

In Australia the vast bulk of vaccinated people in hospital are only there for monitoring. Almost all of them do not require anything more than meds you get over the counter and despite Canberra now getting 1000+ cases per day (~6000 active cases and that's only the ones that bothered to get tested) we only have 27 people in hospital and 4 people in ICU.

It doesn't take a genius to work out that if nobody here was vaccinated those figures would be far more devastating

Try rereading what I posted. I said nothing about ending up in the hospital because of covid. It's about going to the hospital for other things, and being found to have covid. Not because of covid. If you go to the hospital for anything, you are tested for covid. If you test positive, and are asymptomatic, the possibility that you are contagious exists. This will still put the cancer patients (for example) at risk. The conversation I was having with Kabool was about hospitals getting back to normal, so the immunocompromised can get their treatments for other things. As long as the vaccinated (and the unvaccinated) can spread covid, the hospitals won't be able to get back to normal. This isn't a conversation about overwhelming the hospitals, it's about normalcy and safety. Even if everyone who can be vaccinated gets vaccinated, it would still take awhile for us to get back to normal.

Now back to your rantings. 

Try rereading what I posted. I said nothing about ending up in the hospital because of covid. It's about going to the hospital for other things, and being found to have covid. Not because of covid. If you go to the hospital for anything, you are tested for covid. If you test positive, and are asymptomatic, the possibility that you are contagious exists. This will still put the cancer patients (for example) at risk. The conversation I was having with Kabool was about hospitals getting back to normal, so the immunocompromised can get their treatments for other things. As long as the vaccinated (and the unvaccinated) can spread covid, the hospitals won't be able to get back to normal. This isn't a conversation about overwhelming the hospitals, it's about normalcy and safety. Even if everyone who can be vaccinated gets vaccinated, it would still take awhile for us to get back to normal.

Now back to your rantings.

Your logic still doesn't quite fly. Because unvaccinated people will be crippling the hospitals ability to treat people for the sheer bulk of bodies that NEED urgent medical care to simply live beyond the next week

Yes, vaccinated people are still contagious and still pose a risk especially to vulnerable people but that hardly requires one simply throw their hands in the air and give up on vaccination efforts as you seem to be espousing.

Hospitals here in Canberra can manage and aren't crippled because our population (barring 0-11 year olds) is ~99% vaccinated. Which means our hospitals can implement plans to deliver the care to vulnerable people inside populations with as little risk as possible. There is no such thing as no risk. But if we had vaccination rates like some parts of America as well as your populations 'I dont give a fuck about masks or lockdown rules', instead of 27 people in hospital with 4 in ICU right now, we could have into the thousands in hospital by the end of the month with hundreds in ICU. There are only 2 public hospitals here for a city of nearly 450K people. The biggest hospital having 672 beds. How do you think that would manage?

But according to your arguments because vaccinated people can still spread the virus the impact on hospitals or their efficiency would not be much different?? What else is there to get from that when you say nonsense like "There's really no point ranting about the unvaccinated anymore."

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/post/some-of-the-anti-vaxxer-freaks-from-europe-who-recently-died-from-covid
Look at these fuckwits, didn't know the vaccine could of saved them.

But according to your arguments because vaccinated people can still spread the virus the impact on hospitals or their efficiency would not be much different?? What else is there to get from that when you say nonsense like "There's really no point ranting about the unvaccinated anymore."

At no point in this discussion have I argued - "because vaccinated people can still spread the virus the impact on hospitals or their efficiency would not be much different??" You made that up, JJA.  You could try reading the conversation all over again, but you're so blinded by your outrage that you can't comprehend what was actually posted.  I actually said that since the vaccinated can still spread covid, it will take awhile for hospitals to get back to normal. What is so difficult to understand about that? Why do you need to build a strawman? Are you just too far into it now, and you can't give up?

You haven't demonstrated what the point is of ranting about the unvaccinated. I know it makes you feel better, and that's okay, but you're not convincing anyone to get vaccinated by doing it. If there is a valid point, that somehow justifies your inability to follow a conversation, I would love to read it.

Don't worry, you are not alone in your covid induced mental state.  Just today CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said "The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least 4 comorbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with and yes, really encouraging news in the context of Omicron." And people have lost their marbles and are accusing her of eugenics. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/1/8/2073538/--Encouraging-eugenics-news-from-CDC-Most-COVID-deaths-are-people-who-were-unwell-to-begin-with

I think it would be beneficial to tone down the hyperbole a bit.

Try rereading what I posted. I said nothing about ending up in the hospital because of covid. It's about going to the hospital for other things, and being found to have covid. Not because of covid. If you go to the hospital for anything, you are tested for covid. If you test positive, and are asymptomatic, the possibility that you are contagious exists. This will still put the cancer patients (for example) at risk. The conversation I was having with Kabool was about hospitals getting back to normal, so the immunocompromised can get their treatments for other things. As long as the vaccinated (and the unvaccinated) can spread covid, the hospitals won't be able to get back to normal. This isn't a conversation about overwhelming the hospitals, it's about normalcy and safety. Even if everyone who can be vaccinated gets vaccinated, it would still take awhile for us to get back to normal.

Now back to your rantings.

Im specifically talking about treatment of the unvax for their covid needs.
Hosptals have special rooms for the immunocompromised to rscover in.
ICU.
In the general population f theyre able the imunocomprimised can wear ppe just like the doctors.
Or they can open specific hospitals for them.

Shoudlve done same with the schools.
Those antimaskers really want they can go there.
Why fight them.
Theyve brought their guns.

Theres no reasoning anymore.

Should be fine.

Don't worry, you are not alone in your covid induced mental state.  Just today CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said "The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least 4 comorbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with and yes, really encouraging news in the context of Omicron." And people have lost their marbles and are accusing her of eugenics. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/1/8/2073538/--Encouraging-eugenics-news-from-CDC-Most-COVID-deaths-are-people-who-were-unwell-to-begin-with

I think it would be beneficial to tone down the hyperbole a bit.

Shifter is jja?
NE was looking fir jja.


Comorbidities doesnt mean tuat a person was set to die.
It was that covid pushed them over the edge.
Unwell is different from manageable.

Saying covid moainly kills the fat and jnjealthy is a talking point of the antivaskers to justify that the deaths are not excess deaths and covid is not a big deal.

Quote from: Shifter on January 09, 2022, 08:01:31 AM

But according to your arguments because vaccinated people can still spread the virus the impact on hospitals or their efficiency would not be much different?? What else is there to get from that when you say nonsense like "There's really no point ranting about the unvaccinated anymore."

At no point in this discussion have I argued - "because vaccinated people can still spread the virus the impact on hospitals or their efficiency would not be much different??" You made that up, JJA.

You said "There's really no point ranting about the unvaccinated anymore."
You tell me then what would happen to hospitals if no one bothered to get vaccinated. I would think people who want their hospitals to run efficiently should be able to 'rant' about the selfishness and stupidity of anti vaxxer morons.

You could try reading the conversation all over again, but you're so blinded by your outrage

Where honestly is my 'outrage'. Please link to something I said that makes you think my blood is boiling. In my city, 99% of us have done the right and smart thing and got vaccinated. Life is pretty much normal even with covid abound. Geez, before we got vaccinated with the original strain of covid we had a total of 103 infections. 3 died and more than a few of the others were in hospital. Now that we are vaccinated I would guess the real figure of covid infections would be over 10,000. ZERO deaths and less than 100 over the course of 2021 in hospital

I'm resigned that someday - probably next month actually, I'll be infected as I and my wife contribute to society by working and having kids at school etc. I'm cool with it because we got vaccinated and have faith in it

America can collapse in a heap for all I really care. Honestly you guys overestimate just how much of a fuck people care about you. We only ask you dont take the rest of the world down with you lol

I actually said that since the vaccinated can still spread covid, it will take awhile for hospitals to get back to normal. What is so difficult to understand about that? Why do you need to build a strawman? Are you just too far into it now, and you can't give up?

What's the strawman? That having more bodies requiring ICU then there are even beds in the local hospital will have a very bad outcome on your health care services?

You haven't demonstrated what the point is of ranting about the unvaccinated. I know it makes you feel better, and that's okay, but you're not convincing anyone to get vaccinated by doing it. If there is a valid point, that somehow justifies your inability to follow a conversation, I would love to read it.

And you accuse me of not reading posts? Geez

'ranting' about the unvaccinated because they needlessly burden the hospitals, taking up bed space and resources. And in a variant like omicron with an r0 value of 10, if a large chunk of the populous is not vaccinated, you can end up with more people requiring ICU then there are beds in the hospital. Because tax payers are paying astronomical amounts of money to pay for the care that could have been prevented with a vaccine that would only have cost a few dollars instead. Or people watch as their loved ones glue themselves to despicable characters like Cucker and lose them down the rabbit hole of bullshit. But as you say 'no point about anyone 'ranting' about that now lol

Don't worry, you are not alone in your covid induced mental state.  Just today CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said "The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least 4 comorbidities. So really these are people who were unwell to begin with and yes, really encouraging news in the context of Omicron." And people have lost their marbles and are accusing her of eugenics. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/1/8/2073538/--Encouraging-eugenics-news-from-CDC-Most-COVID-deaths-are-people-who-were-unwell-to-begin-with

I think it would be beneficial to tone down the hyperbole a bit.

Obesity is a comorbidity. So is high blood pressure. And high cholesterol. And diabetes. And cancer. And anyone who has ever had an organ transplant. Anyone that is on immune suppressing drugs. Pregnancy etc

Obesity alone is like 2/3rds of Americans lol

And she is only using death as a metric. Covid damage can have life long damage including a vastly increased risk of future cancer, heart attacks or stroke. 'Long covid' will have economic impacts to society for far beyond their recovery not to mention affecting the quality of that persons life - maybe for the rest of it.

So much death and misery could be avoided with a simple vaccine but there seems to be a lot of Americans too stupid to understand. Not my problem anyway lol. But I'll happily enjoy the show as you yanks literally kill each other for a Darwin award.


 

How does ranting about the unvaccinated change any of the things you mentioned? You only do it to make yourself feel better.

Anyway, it is completely beside the point I was making - Since the vaccinated are getting covid, and going to the hospital for other things, it will take awhile for hospitals to get back to normal, because even if you're vaccinated, if you have covid you can spread covid. That's it, for some reason you think I'm saying something else.  Then you flip out and rant about the hospitals being overburdened, which is a separate thing from what I am talking about. 

It is not a seperate thing

You cherry pick one tidbit about vaccinated people still being able to spread the virus. But in the real world, that factoid doesn't operate in isolation. The synergy of more bodies than the hospital can handle because the muppets believed wrongly that covid was harmless or that vaccines represented a greater risk to their health than the actual disease comes to play - destroying the hospitals ability to treat non covid patients, vulnerable people or otherwise.

And while vaccinated people still spread the virus they generally don't cough and splutter and what they have, they shake it off much quicker than a unvaxxed covidiot. On a social science level, vaccinated people are generally more responsible and less selfish so they know to isolate themselves unlike that Tennis dipshit Novax, posing with young kids a day after getting a positive PCR test result. What a wanker

Your argument doesn't make sense because it's not how it works in the real world

In Canberra with a ~99% vaxxed rate (of those eligible), our hospitals can manage. Cancer patients and vulnerable people can be treated at low risk from the wider public. If you're in hospital, the chance of an outbreak is low. Maybe 10K in the public infected but only 27 are in hospital with 4 in ICU. If our vaxxed rate was like Florida, well we'd be in deep shit.

You can take your debate point and isolate it for your argument all you like. The real world simply doesn't operate the way your thinking. Thus, 'ranting' about anti vaxxers and their impact on the health care system is perfectly valid

I didn't cherry pick anything! Do you disagree that even with 100% vaccine compliance that it will take awhile for hospitals to get back to normal?  I have no idea (other than you being Shitler) why you are even blowing that mild observation up into a weird argument.

Me: It will take awhile for hospitals to get back to normal.
You: WHAT ABOUT THE OVERBURDENED HOSPITALS?? FUCK AMERICA!!

There's a more nuanced point to be made about the hospitals being overcrowded due to the unvaccinnated taking up space that they more than likely otherwise wouldn't be taking up had they been vaccinated. In that unrealized version of our world, yes there would still be concerns with people spreading COVID while in the hospital for other normal issues people go to the hospital for, and that might very well cause hospitals to adopt an extra cautious approach to keep immunocompromised and otherwise at-risk patients away from the people that were carrying COVID and didn't even know it. But, it would also mean that there were more open beds to put patients that aren't super at-risk.

Shitler won't try and make a nuanced point, he needs to go all-in on rhetoric because it's his way. The hospitals could absolutely be less crowded right now and health outcomes for more patients would improve because of it. We should want to live in that world. And it's unfortunate that we don't.

I didn't cherry pick anything! Do you disagree that even with 100% vaccine compliance that it will take awhile for hospitals to get back to normal?  I have no idea (other than you being Shitler) why you are even blowing that mild observation up into a weird argument.

Me: It will take awhile for hospitals to get back to normal.
You: WHAT ABOUT THE OVERBURDENED HOSPITALS?? FUCK AMERICA!!

Canberra has as close to 100% vaccine compliance as you can get and is in the midst of an omicron wave. Our hospitals are managing fine. They are still operating normally albeit just more careful or restrictions with visitors but patients are not impacted.

If hospital aren't, it's less to do with the fact that covid is in the community and more to do with protocols that were written with an unvaccinated population in mind

So yeah, I disagree with you as real world experience shows you up

The hospitals could absolutely be less crowded right now and health outcomes for more patients would improve because of it. We should want to live in that world. And it's unfortunate that we don't.

That is what I've said. And my own cities experience, I do live 'in that world'. ~99% eligible population vaccinated, massive omicron wave and hospitals are coping just fine. For the very few covid patients and every non covid related issue

I think then the question is will hospitals general population manage with covid blooms or will blooms cause more need for icu?

We can argue the ethicnisness of evicting unvax from the icu for specific covid treatmentuntil the cows come home.

Is it even a problem for the general hospital?
Say appendecitus?
Tonsilitis?
Colonoscopy?
Heartatacks?
Dialisis?

If being vax and catching it at the hospital while getting service going to put you in icu?

 - Bed capacity is the concern.

Govt is happy enough for xyz thousand to die so long as hospital and economy can continue.

Given omicron persei 8 isnt that bad (tbd fingers crossed) should we start moving in this direction?

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 09, 2022, 01:26:38 PM

I didn't cherry pick anything! Do you disagree that even with 100% vaccine compliance that it will take awhile for hospitals to get back to normal?  I have no idea (other than you being Shitler) why you are even blowing that mild observation up into a weird argument.

Me: It will take awhile for hospitals to get back to normal.
You: WHAT ABOUT THE OVERBURDENED HOSPITALS?? FUCK AMERICA!!

Canberra has as close to 100% vaccine compliance as you can get and is in the midst of an omicron wave. Our hospitals are managing fine. They are still operating normally albeit just more careful or restrictions with visitors but patients are not impacted.

If hospital aren't, it's less to do with the fact that covid is in the community and more to do with protocols that were written with an unvaccinated population in mind

So yeah, I disagree with you as real world experience shows you up

More careful, and restrictions. OK.  Way to show me up.

I hope you will forgive me, i don't know which Aussie news sources are legit, but apparently at one hosp in Cranberra they are postponing some surgeries for 8 weeks.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/act-covid-restrictions-dancing-banned-elective-surgeries-paused/100744842

ACT Health Minister Rachel Stephen-Smith said non-urgent elective surgeries — known as category 2 and category 3 — would also be ceased at Calvary Public Hospital for up to eight weeks.

And you have to sit down to drink! lol

The CDC tweeted this a couple days ago, and I only just now started reading about it. 


https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1479528331825582081?s=20

New @CDCMMWR finds children and teens 18 years & younger who have had #COVID19 are up to 2.5 times more likely to have a #diabetes diagnosis after infection. Prevent COVID-19 by using tools like masks and #vaccines for those eligible. Learn more: http://bit.ly/MMWR7102e2.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7102e2.htm

The media ran with this, but medical twitter thinks it's bogus, and is the CDC linking correlation to causation https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/does-covid19-cause-diabetes-in-kids

It does seem like a bullshit study.

The CDC tweeted this a couple days ago, and I only just now started reading about it. 


https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1479528331825582081?s=20

Quote

New @CDCMMWR finds children and teens 18 years & younger who have had #COVID19 are up to 2.5 times more likely to have a #diabetes diagnosis after infection. Prevent COVID-19 by using tools like masks and #vaccines for those eligible. Learn more: http://bit.ly/MMWR7102e2.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7102e2.htm

The media ran with this, but medical twitter thinks it's bogus, and is the CDC linking correlation to causation https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/does-covid19-cause-diabetes-in-kids

It does seem like a bullshit study.

Agreed, correlation =/= causation.     So why does the CDC buy into that crap?  Simple,  it's an attempt to panic people into getting their kids vaxxed. 

Cdc has very poor msging practice.

Good thing we all get our selective news from our trusted internet personalities!

Inseet italics where meeded.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 09, 2022, 03:25:46 PM

The CDC tweeted this a couple days ago, and I only just now started reading about it. 


https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1479528331825582081?s=20

Quote

New @CDCMMWR finds children and teens 18 years & younger who have had #COVID19 are up to 2.5 times more likely to have a #diabetes diagnosis after infection. Prevent COVID-19 by using tools like masks and #vaccines for those eligible. Learn more: http://bit.ly/MMWR7102e2.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7102e2.htm

The media ran with this, but medical twitter thinks it's bogus, and is the CDC linking correlation to causation https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/does-covid19-cause-diabetes-in-kids

It does seem like a bullshit study.

Agreed, correlation =/= causation.     So why does the CDC buy into that crap?  Simple,  it's an attempt to panic people into getting their kids vaxxed.

Sounds like they are following the D.A.R.E. playbook, which wasn't exactly a giant success.

Quote from: Shifter on January 09, 2022, 01:43:41 PM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 09, 2022, 01:26:38 PM

I didn't cherry pick anything! Do you disagree that even with 100% vaccine compliance that it will take awhile for hospitals to get back to normal?  I have no idea (other than you being Shitler) why you are even blowing that mild observation up into a weird argument.

Me: It will take awhile for hospitals to get back to normal.
You: WHAT ABOUT THE OVERBURDENED HOSPITALS?? FUCK AMERICA!!

Canberra has as close to 100% vaccine compliance as you can get and is in the midst of an omicron wave. Our hospitals are managing fine. They are still operating normally albeit just more careful or restrictions with visitors but patients are not impacted.

If hospital aren't, it's less to do with the fact that covid is in the community and more to do with protocols that were written with an unvaccinated population in mind

So yeah, I disagree with you as real world experience shows you up

More careful, and restrictions. OK.  Way to show me up.

I hope you will forgive me, i don't know which Aussie news sources are legit, but apparently at one hosp in Cranberra they are postponing some surgeries for 8 weeks.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-07/act-covid-restrictions-dancing-banned-elective-surgeries-paused/100744842

Quote

ACT Health Minister Rachel Stephen-Smith said non-urgent elective surgeries — known as category 2 and category 3 — would also be ceased at Calvary Public Hospital for up to eight weeks.

And you have to sit down to drink! lol

Hmmm. You conveniently left out:

Ms Stephen-Smith said the move allowed health staff to be redeployed to respond to the COVID-19 outbreak.

She said there were currently no changes to elective surgeries at Canberra Hospital or in the ACT's private hospitals.

The reintroduction of COVID-19 restrictions in the ACT align with many of those also reintroduced across the border in New South Wales.

Calvery hospital is a much smaller hospital and is a mix between public/private

And for the category meaning

Category 2 – Needing treatment within 90 days. Their condition causes pain, dysfunction or disability. Unlikely to deteriorate quickly and unlikely to become an emergency. Category 3 – Needing treatment at some point in the next year.

If you are in hospital managing cancer or treatment or you break a bone and require surgery - not a problem

If you have a dodgy tooth that you want removed for free and are on a waiting list, you can wait until omicron reaches its peak. If you are going through the smaller hospital. The main hospital and all private hospitals are moving along

Sitting down to drink simply manages the number of people inside an establishment at any time and have people mingle in their own groups. Instead of getting your drink while people are chatting at the bar then walking through crowds of people chatting and breathing in their spittle as you take them to your table. I know Ameritard doesn't care about letting corona rip through a population. Even unvaxxed ones. You're from Florida. Look at your death toll per capita vs Canberra and you're hanging shit on how Canberra does things? Typical

The government isn't always going to get it right. Some measures will be overly cautious, maybe bordering on pointless, others not enough sometimes.

When it comes to health care and hospital readiness and effectiveness, I sure as hell glad I'm living in a city where the population is as vaccinated as you can get. And if I were like my friend with a medically suppressed immune system, I'd feel pretty safe going to hospital for scheduled medication and treatments.

My bloke tested negative, no covid here, hooray for vaccination working well! The Glorious Leader gets her first jab on Wednesday

Hospitals are struggling here too, its worrying, but hopefully once the children are vaccinated it'll spread a bit less.

My bloke tested negative, no covid here, hooray for vaccination working well! The Glorious Leader gets her first jab on Wednesday

Hospitals are struggling here too, its worrying, but hopefully once the children are vaccinated it'll spread a bit less.

Vaccinations are great. Omicron has let rip in Canberra but I'm not too worried. I predict when my kids go back to school in February, there is no escaping it for me. Oh well, I'll be boosted next Friday and when I do get the omicron strain a month later it can be my unofficial booster that is omicron variant tailored. I haven't had a day off sick from work in several years too. So getting covid will give me a chance to catch up on some xbox games and watch some movies.

Do I want covid, of course not. But I accept the reality that as sure as I get the common cold from time to time, I'll get the corona virus too. Being vaccinated means covid can kiss my arse 

Quote from: Colonel Gaydafi on January 10, 2022, 02:02:08 AM

My bloke tested negative, no covid here, hooray for vaccination working well! The Glorious Leader gets her first jab on Wednesday

Hospitals are struggling here too, its worrying, but hopefully once the children are vaccinated it'll spread a bit less.

Vaccinations are great. Omicron has let rip in Canberra but I'm not too worried. I predict when my kids go back to school in February, there is no escaping it for me. Oh well, I'll be boosted next Friday and when I do get the omicron strain a month later it can be my unofficial booster that is omicron variant tailored. I haven't had a day off sick from work in several years too. So getting covid will give me a chance to catch up on some xbox games and watch some movies.

Do I want covid, of course not. But I accept the reality that as sure as I get the common cold from time to time, I'll get the corona virus too. Being vaccinated means covid can kiss my arse 

I still really hope I avoid it, 50% of hospitalised covid patients have been left with some degree of Long Covid apparently, and sure I'd most likely avoid being hospitalised but being in a risk group makes it, erm, well, slightly riskier.

Can't wait until I get my booster.

I still really hope I avoid it, 50% of hospitalised covid patients have been left with some degree of Long Covid apparently, and sure I'd most likely avoid being hospitalised but being in a risk group makes it, erm, well, slightly riskier.

Can't wait until I get my booster.

A lot of people only use death as a metric to judge covid forgetting that many survivors will be left with lasting damage.

To anyone that thinks natural immunity is longer lasting than vaccine immunity they are taking a huge gamble (and it's not actually even true in any event).

What good is having a so called 'better immune memory' if covid ravished your lungs with scarring so bad that even a common cold will knock you down hard. Not to mention maybe end up with lung cancer from the internal scarring.

And lets not forget all the coronary damage or brain damage. Quality of life damage.

All that risk is largely eliminated with the vaccines. Only a fool would scoff at them

A lot of those idiots think natural immunity but also took MAb whoch is a cheat and doesnt give natural immunity.

Artificially boosted immune through injected antibodies developed in a rats spleen.


So dumb

A lot of those idiots think natural immunity but also took MAb whoch is a cheat and doesnt give natural immunity.

Artificially boosted immune through injected antibodies developed in a rats spleen.


So dumb

So rather than have their own body produce the antibodies before an infection, they wait until they are nearly at deaths door from the full blown disease and spend thousands of dollars (if they can afford it) getting the same thing and hope it's not too late. Just it's made from some lab rats spleen instead. The logic fail