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« Reply #3360 on: May 30, 2021, 06:21:27 PM »
These people that insist on wearing masks still, I wonder if they're aware that N95 masks are actually available again.
Ae you complaing or not?
Cause if you are then i have something to say.
The vaccine only protects around 94-95% so you can still get corona.

Complain? Not really. It just seems odd that more people that are afraid of the virus for whatever reason don't use them.

That 95% is only part of the story. The other is how effective it is against severity.
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« Reply #3361 on: May 30, 2021, 06:25:06 PM »
These people that insist on wearing masks still, I wonder if they're aware that N95 masks are actually available again.
Ae you complaing or not?
Cause if you are then i have something to say.
The vaccine only protects around 94-95% so you can still get corona.

Complain? Not really. It just seems odd that more people that are afraid of the virus for whatever reason don't use them.

That 95% is only part of the story. The other is how effective it is against severity.
What you mean by "severity"?
If you get corona then you get no symtoms,0.0001% of dieing(I think, i dont remember)
No symtoms mean that you can spread it without knowing right?
Also why aren't they using masks if they are scared?
They stupid me thinks.

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« Reply #3362 on: May 30, 2021, 06:34:47 PM »
These people that insist on wearing masks still, I wonder if they're aware that N95 masks are actually available again.
Ae you complaing or not?
Cause if you are then i have something to say.
The vaccine only protects around 94-95% so you can still get corona.

Complain? Not really. It just seems odd that more people that are afraid of the virus for whatever reason don't use them.

That 95% is only part of the story. The other is how effective it is against severity.
What you mean by "severity"?
If you get corona then you get no symtoms,0.0001% of dieing(I think, i dont remember)
No symtoms mean that you can spread it without knowing right?
Also why aren't they using masks if they are scared?
They stupid me thinks.

By severity I mean the likelyhood of someone going to the hospital from it is quote a bit lower if you're vaccinated.

As far as spreading it I recall fauci saying in an interview that the data suggests that those vaccinated people who get Covid are also a lot less contagious.
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« Reply #3363 on: May 30, 2021, 06:37:06 PM »
These people that insist on wearing masks still, I wonder if they're aware that N95 masks are actually available again.
Ae you complaing or not?
Cause if you are then i have something to say.
The vaccine only protects around 94-95% so you can still get corona.

Complain? Not really. It just seems odd that more people that are afraid of the virus for whatever reason don't use them.

That 95% is only part of the story. The other is how effective it is against severity.
What you mean by "severity"?
If you get corona then you get no symtoms,0.0001% of dieing(I think, i dont remember)
No symtoms mean that you can spread it without knowing right?
Also why aren't they using masks if they are scared?
They stupid me thinks.

By severity I mean the likelyhood of someone going to the hospital from it is quote a bit lower if you're vaccinated.

As far as spreading it I recall fauci saying in an interview that the data suggests that those vaccinated people who get Covid are also a lot less contagious.
The key words being "a lot less contagious"
You can still spread it.
Because you said "a lot less contagious" instead of saying not contagious.

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« Reply #3364 on: May 30, 2021, 11:07:20 PM »
Body is always playing catch up with a virus.

When unvaxed or first time affected, the virus is infecting cells and multiolying while going undetected.
Once detected the body rssponse goes overdrive to kill.
and is playing catch up because viruses are exponentially exploding out of cells.


But
After vaxing the body "knows" and detects faster omce virus starts mutliplying.
It is caught.much earlier and snuffed out.
So even if a few cells release virus, its a way lot less and for a lot less time too.
However during that little time possible could be expelling virus externally.
Small chance.

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« Reply #3365 on: May 31, 2021, 04:32:31 AM »
Suegical masks really suck at preventing airborne viruses tho. Its not what they are made for.

Better than being naked though. They are brilliant for stopping peoples spittle hitting your lips. That's always a plus
I agree 100%.
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« Reply #3366 on: May 31, 2021, 04:33:25 AM »
Suegical masks really suck at preventing airborne viruses tho. Its not what they are made for.

Surgical masks were made to prevent the wearer from spraying their spit all over their patients open wounds and infecting them. So yes, they actually do work very well at preventing the wearer from spreading viruses. They even work well for normal people who don't want to splatter droplets of spit all over their friends faces when they talk to them.
Do you even read my posts? Because you should, you could learn a lot.
What you wrote has nothing to do with what I wrote.
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« Reply #3367 on: May 31, 2021, 04:35:11 AM »
Suegical masks really suck at preventing airborne viruses tho. Its not what they are made for.

Surgical masks were made to prevent the wearer from spraying their spit all over their patients open wounds and infecting them. So yes, they actually do work very well at preventing the wearer from spreading viruses. They even work well for normal people who don't want to splatter droplets of spit all over their friends faces when they talk to them.
Do you even read my posts? Because you should, you could learn a lot.
What you wrote has nothing to do with what I wrote.

I read you saying surgical masks suck at preventing airborne viruses, when in fact they do protect against them very well, wearing one prevents much of the virus from being exhaled all over peoples faces.

They are made for exactly that, to protect others from any viruses the wearer may have.

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« Reply #3368 on: May 31, 2021, 04:35:33 AM »
These people that insist on wearing masks still, I wonder if they're aware that N95 masks are actually available again.
Ae you complaing or not?
Cause if you are then i have something to say.
The vaccine only protects around 94-95% so you can still get corona.
Yeah but if you get it, it's VERY unlikey to hit you hard; thus even a normal flue is more dangerous than covid IF you are vaccinated. And at some point we have to keep it real; if you get covid but it's less bad than a normal influenza virus, it shouldn't be the reason to wear mask everywhere and close restaurants etc.
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« Reply #3369 on: May 31, 2021, 04:39:31 AM »
Suegical masks really suck at preventing airborne viruses tho. Its not what they are made for.

Surgical masks were made to prevent the wearer from spraying their spit all over their patients open wounds and infecting them. So yes, they actually do work very well at preventing the wearer from spreading viruses. They even work well for normal people who don't want to splatter droplets of spit all over their friends faces when they talk to them.
Do you even read my posts? Because you should, you could learn a lot.
What you wrote has nothing to do with what I wrote.

I read you saying surgical masks suck at preventing airborne viruses, when in fact they do protect against them very well, wearing one prevents much of the virus from being exhaled all over peoples faces.

They are made for exactly that, to protect others from any viruses the wearer may have.

Are you aware why there are ffp2 and ffp3 masks? I can tell you - becaues these are producing a decent seal between the mask and your face and have smaller 'pores', thus are suitable to protect you from airborne viruses that are transmitted via aerosol. Surgical mask do not have those characteristics, thus they suck at prevent you from airborne viruses. They are great for e.g. covid, because its mostly infection by droplets.
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« Reply #3370 on: May 31, 2021, 04:39:38 AM »
Suegical masks really suck at preventing airborne viruses tho. Its not what they are made for.

Surgical masks were made to prevent the wearer from spraying their spit all over their patients open wounds and infecting them. So yes, they actually do work very well at preventing the wearer from spreading viruses. They even work well for normal people who don't want to splatter droplets of spit all over their friends faces when they talk to them.
Do you even read my posts? Because you should, you could learn a lot.
What you wrote has nothing to do with what I wrote.

I read you saying surgical masks suck at preventing airborne viruses, when in fact they do protect against them very well, wearing one prevents much of the virus from being exhaled all over peoples faces.

They are made for exactly that, to protect others from any viruses the wearer may have.

I think the point he was trying to make is that they were not designed to stop airborne viruses. Like if you were working in a lab dealing with smallpox or another highly infectious/deadly airborne virus, you wouldn't want to wear the surgical mask.

He didn't say you should not bother wearing them

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« Reply #3371 on: May 31, 2021, 04:52:42 AM »
Suegical masks really suck at preventing airborne viruses tho. Its not what they are made for.

Surgical masks were made to prevent the wearer from spraying their spit all over their patients open wounds and infecting them. So yes, they actually do work very well at preventing the wearer from spreading viruses. They even work well for normal people who don't want to splatter droplets of spit all over their friends faces when they talk to them.
Do you even read my posts? Because you should, you could learn a lot.
What you wrote has nothing to do with what I wrote.

I read you saying surgical masks suck at preventing airborne viruses, when in fact they do protect against them very well, wearing one prevents much of the virus from being exhaled all over peoples faces.

They are made for exactly that, to protect others from any viruses the wearer may have.

Are you aware why there are ffp2 and ffp3 masks? I can tell you - becaues these are producing a decent seal between the mask and your face and have smaller 'pores', thus are suitable to protect you from airborne viruses that are transmitted via aerosol. Surgical mask do not have those characteristics, thus they suck at prevent you from airborne viruses. They are great for e.g. covid, because its mostly infection by droplets.

Yes I am aware that better masks are better.

Surgical masks are meant to reduce the spread of infections, and they work. That's why surgeons wear them in the operating room, it's why people visiting hospitals wear them, it's why people who are sick should wear them. They are effective in preventing the spread of diseases, bacteria or viruses.

Surgical masks protect OTHER people, they do not protect the wearer, and are not meant to.

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« Reply #3372 on: May 31, 2021, 05:09:47 AM »
Suegical masks really suck at preventing airborne viruses tho. Its not what they are made for.

Surgical masks were made to prevent the wearer from spraying their spit all over their patients open wounds and infecting them. So yes, they actually do work very well at preventing the wearer from spreading viruses. They even work well for normal people who don't want to splatter droplets of spit all over their friends faces when they talk to them.
Do you even read my posts? Because you should, you could learn a lot.
What you wrote has nothing to do with what I wrote.

I read you saying surgical masks suck at preventing airborne viruses, when in fact they do protect against them very well, wearing one prevents much of the virus from being exhaled all over peoples faces.

They are made for exactly that, to protect others from any viruses the wearer may have.

Are you aware why there are ffp2 and ffp3 masks? I can tell you - becaues these are producing a decent seal between the mask and your face and have smaller 'pores', thus are suitable to protect you from airborne viruses that are transmitted via aerosol. Surgical mask do not have those characteristics, thus they suck at prevent you from airborne viruses. They are great for e.g. covid, because its mostly infection by droplets.

Yes I am aware that better masks are better.

Surgical masks are meant to reduce the spread of infections, and they work. That's why surgeons wear them in the operating room, it's why people visiting hospitals wear them, it's why people who are sick should wear them. They are effective in preventing the spread of diseases, bacteria or viruses.

Surgical masks protect OTHER people, they do not protect the wearer, and are not meant to.

Wrong. Very wrong.
Surgical masks are made to protect the wearer and mostly the patient from infection through droplets. They are NOT designed to prevent infection through aerosole. That's why in every hospital you have different degrees of isolation; if a virus is airborne you'll need to wear at least a ffp2 mask when interacting with the patient.

Of course (as usual) the world isn't black and white, so you cannot always clearly tell whether or not (or to which degree) a virus is airborne. With the corone, the general consensus would be that infections happen mostly through droplets (which doesn't mean there is no airborne/aerosol component to it). That's why surgical masks are suitable for the most part.

If newer variants (e.g. the indian one) now prove to be airborne in a way they can infect other people in seconds, without even being in the same room, that'd be a whole different level than what the corone used to be one year ago. It'd also mean that surgical masks are becoming kind of useless as prevention of the corone and we'd have to switch to ffp2/3 masks.
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« Reply #3373 on: May 31, 2021, 05:16:45 AM »
Surgical masks protect OTHER people, they do not protect the wearer, and are not meant to.

That is not the message going around

Surgical masks give me some protection from infection through a reduction of the chance of coming into contact with droplets.

This is why despite the masks we still lock down, social distance and minimize the excuses for ever going out. They are a tool in an arsenal of measures

Wearing the masks designed to near eliminate the risk is not feasible for every day use. I wear one when I go up into my roof and 10 minutes of that on and its far from pleasant. Like, in a lab doing lab things where you aren't moving around much and just wearing them in front a fumehood etc, not really a problem. Or if you're working with a lot of dust its clearly better and you can work for longer because your not coughing and choking on the dust. But if you were to try and drive, go shopping, run errands, exercise etc, you couldn't do it.  You can wear a surgical mask all day though no problem. All the Karens and Tuckers in the world (I say Tucker should be the male equivalent of Karen) are just full of shit

So yes, I will get some protection from a surgical mask but to get the maximum benefit of that protection I'd need an infected SOB to be wearing theirs. No way I'd chance going anywhere near a covid SOB if they weren't wearing a mask even If I were wearing a mask and a face shield. God bless those front line health care workers

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« Reply #3374 on: May 31, 2021, 05:35:55 AM »
Surgical masks protect OTHER people, they do not protect the wearer, and are not meant to.

Wrong. Very wrong.
Surgical masks are made to protect the wearer and mostly the patient from infection through droplets.
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I don't even know what we are arguing here, we're saying the same thing.  Surgical masks protect others, they do a small amount to protect the wearer but are designed to reduce the chance of you infecting someone else. They are not as good as full blown gas masks. They do what they are designed to do.

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« Reply #3375 on: May 31, 2021, 05:57:33 AM »
Surgical masks protect OTHER people, they do not protect the wearer, and are not meant to.

Wrong. Very wrong.
Surgical masks are made to protect the wearer and mostly the patient from infection through droplets.

I don't even know what we are arguing here, we're saying the same thing.  Surgical masks protect others, they do a small amount to protect the wearer but are designed to reduce the chance of you infecting someone else. They are not as good as full blown gas masks. They do what they are designed to do.

That bolded part of you comment flies in the face of your previous comment in this thread

Surgical masks protect OTHER people, they do not protect the wearer, and are not meant to.

I notice you contradict yourself a lot.

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« Reply #3376 on: May 31, 2021, 11:04:38 AM »
Surgical masks protect OTHER people, they do not protect the wearer, and are not meant to.

Wrong. Very wrong.
Surgical masks are made to protect the wearer and mostly the patient from infection through droplets.

I don't even know what we are arguing here, we're saying the same thing.  Surgical masks protect others, they do a small amount to protect the wearer but are designed to reduce the chance of you infecting someone else. They are not as good as full blown gas masks. They do what they are designed to do.

That bolded part of you comment flies in the face of your previous comment in this thread

Surgical masks protect OTHER people, they do not protect the wearer, and are not meant to.

I notice you contradict yourself a lot.

It's a matter of degree.  A single thread held in front of your face will protect you from viruses even if 1 virus particle is deflected or trapped by it.  Do you say it's no protection or only a small amount?  Most will say no protection.

Same with surgical masks. They provide a tiny amount of protection for the wearer, little enough that it might as well not be there, but you can't say zero.

Either way you go, someone will whine about it.  So yeah, I said they don't protect the wearer because for all practical purposes they don't but because that protection is not zero, I have to point THAT out too.

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« Reply #3377 on: May 31, 2021, 11:08:46 AM »
Surgical masks protect OTHER people, they do not protect the wearer, and are not meant to.

Wrong. Very wrong.
Surgical masks are made to protect the wearer and mostly the patient from infection through droplets.

I don't even know what we are arguing here, we're saying the same thing.  Surgical masks protect others, they do a small amount to protect the wearer but are designed to reduce the chance of you infecting someone else. They are not as good as full blown gas masks. They do what they are designed to do.

That bolded part of you comment flies in the face of your previous comment in this thread

Surgical masks protect OTHER people, they do not protect the wearer, and are not meant to.

I notice you contradict yourself a lot.

It's a matter of degree.  A single thread held in front of your face will protect you from viruses even if 1 virus particle is deflected or trapped by it.  Do you say it's no protection or only a small amount?  Most will say no protection.

Same with surgical masks. They provide a tiny amount of protection for the wearer, little enough that it might as well not be there, but you can't say zero.

Either way you go, someone will whine about it.  So yeah, I said they don't protect the wearer because for all practical purposes they don't but because that protection is not zero, I have to point THAT out too.

Oh, now its a tiny amount ::)

We go from NO protection to small protection and now tiny (in your context, near insignificant as if the mask is only as good as a single thread in front of your face)

God man, just pick a position and stick to it

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« Reply #3378 on: May 31, 2021, 02:03:09 PM »
JJA, pls just deal with reality: Surgical masks are good for preventing the spread through droplets. They are very bad at preventing spreading of an mainly airborne disease.
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« Reply #3379 on: May 31, 2021, 02:04:34 PM »
JJA, pls just deal with reality: Surgical masks are good for preventing the spread through droplets. They are very bad at preventing spreading of an mainly airborne disease.
YEah JJA.
Without mask you can get corona virus.
If you are vaxxed you still get it but chances are 5%.

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« Reply #3380 on: May 31, 2021, 03:21:32 PM »
Tsunami, when they say vaccines are 95% effective, they do not mean you have a 5% chance of catching COVID. It means 5% of the people in the study (who were given the vaccine and not the placebo) got COVID, and 95% did not.

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« Reply #3381 on: May 31, 2021, 03:34:58 PM »
JJA, pls just deal with reality: Surgical masks are good for preventing the spread through droplets. They are very bad at preventing spreading of an mainly airborne disease.

You need to deal with reality. See below.

Wrong. Very wrong.
Surgical masks are made to protect the wearer and mostly the patient from infection through droplets. They are NOT designed to prevent infection through aerosole.

They are not? Well they seem to be extremely effective for something not at all designed or meant to prevent infection through aerosol.

Here, we measured outward emissions of micron-scale aerosol particles by healthy humans performing various expiratory activities while wearing different types of medical-grade or homemade masks. Both surgical masks and unvented KN95 respirators, even without fit-testing, reduce the outward particle emission rates by 90% and 74% on average during speaking and coughing, respectively, compared to wearing no mask, corroborating their effectiveness at reducing outward emission.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7

Wearing the masks designed to near eliminate the risk is not feasible for every day use. I wear one when I go up into my roof and 10 minutes of that on and its far from pleasant.

God forbid you do something that's not pleasant during a pandemic. Nobody says masks are fun or comfortable. I don't like wearing one either. So what?


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« Reply #3382 on: May 31, 2021, 03:51:19 PM »
JJA flip flops again. First they offer no protection to the person wearing one. Then a small one. Then an insignificantly tiny one and now back again to offering protection. Sorry, I can't keep up

Just state your rock solid unchanging thoughts on surgical grade masks. For both healthy non covid people wearing them and gross covid breath people wearing them.

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« Reply #3383 on: May 31, 2021, 09:58:13 PM »
Tsunami, when they say vaccines are 95% effective, they do not mean you have a 5% chance of catching COVID. It means 5% of the people in the study (who were given the vaccine and not the placebo) got COVID, and 95% did not.
Not that's just plain wrong.

When they talk about 95% protection it means this:
If you have one group that is vaccinated and one group that is unvaccinated, then in the vaccinated group there will be 95% LESS cases than in the vaccinated group. E.g. if in the unvaccinated group 200 people get it, then in the vaccinated one only 10 will get it.
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« Reply #3384 on: May 31, 2021, 10:05:56 PM »
They are not? Well they seem to be extremely effective for something not at all designed or meant to prevent infection through aerosol.

Here, we measured outward emissions of micron-scale aerosol particles by healthy humans performing various expiratory activities while wearing different types of medical-grade or homemade masks. Both surgical masks and unvented KN95 respirators, even without fit-testing, reduce the outward particle emission rates by 90% and 74% on average during speaking and coughing, respectively, compared to wearing no mask, corroborating their effectiveness at reducing outward emission.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7
So according to your study, surgical masks reduce aerosol by 90% and N95 masks by 74%? Makes sense, sure is a great study!
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« Reply #3385 on: May 31, 2021, 10:08:30 PM »
They are not? Well they seem to be extremely effective for something not at all designed or meant to prevent infection through aerosol.

Here, we measured outward emissions of micron-scale aerosol particles by healthy humans performing various expiratory activities while wearing different types of medical-grade or homemade masks. Both surgical masks and unvented KN95 respirators, even without fit-testing, reduce the outward particle emission rates by 90% and 74% on average during speaking and coughing, respectively, compared to wearing no mask, corroborating their effectiveness at reducing outward emission.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7
So according to your study, surgical masks reduce aerosol by 90% and N95 masks by 74%? Makes sense, sure is a great study!
I'd rather wear a military reperator than debate about masks.
Gas masks dont work,any mask with a filter sucks.
It just filters air,doesn't protect you well from corona.
Tsunami, when they say vaccines are 95% effective, they do not mean you have a 5% chance of catching COVID. It means 5% of the people in the study (who were given the vaccine and not the placebo) got COVID, and 95% did not.
Not that's just plain wrong.

When they talk about 95% protection it means this:
If you have one group that is vaccinated and one group that is unvaccinated, then in the vaccinated group there will be 95% LESS cases than in the vaccinated group. E.g. if in the unvaccinated group 200 people get it, then in the vaccinated one only 10 will get it.
I dont know what to believe anymore.


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« Reply #3386 on: June 01, 2021, 02:48:14 AM »
You should believe me because I know many things, if not all.
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Re: nCoV public service announcement. (IMPORTANT)
« Reply #3387 on: June 01, 2021, 04:24:15 AM »
They are not? Well they seem to be extremely effective for something not at all designed or meant to prevent infection through aerosol.

Here, we measured outward emissions of micron-scale aerosol particles by healthy humans performing various expiratory activities while wearing different types of medical-grade or homemade masks. Both surgical masks and unvented KN95 respirators, even without fit-testing, reduce the outward particle emission rates by 90% and 74% on average during speaking and coughing, respectively, compared to wearing no mask, corroborating their effectiveness at reducing outward emission.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7
So according to your study, surgical masks reduce aerosol by 90% and N95 masks by 74%? Makes sense, sure is a great study!

Yes, that is correct, it makes sense and is a great study.  What this demonstrates is you don't understand how these masks work. No wonder you guys are so confused.

Let me clear it up for you.

N95 masks have a flap that opens up when you exhale that allows droplets and aerosols to come out. Because they are primarily designed to protect the wearer.



So yes, N95 masks are worse that surgical masks at preventing the wearer from spreading aerosol viruses.

The study isn't wrong, you are. Got it? 

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Re: nCoV public service announcement. (IMPORTANT)
« Reply #3388 on: June 01, 2021, 04:30:00 AM »
They are not? Well they seem to be extremely effective for something not at all designed or meant to prevent infection through aerosol.

Here, we measured outward emissions of micron-scale aerosol particles by healthy humans performing various expiratory activities while wearing different types of medical-grade or homemade masks. Both surgical masks and unvented KN95 respirators, even without fit-testing, reduce the outward particle emission rates by 90% and 74% on average during speaking and coughing, respectively, compared to wearing no mask, corroborating their effectiveness at reducing outward emission.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72798-7
So according to your study, surgical masks reduce aerosol by 90% and N95 masks by 74%? Makes sense, sure is a great study!

Yes, that is correct, it makes sense and is a great study.  What this demonstrates is you don't understand how these masks work. No wonder you guys are so confused.

Let me clear it up for you.

N95 masks have a flap that opens up when you exhale that allows droplets and aerosols to come out. Because they are primarily designed to protect the wearer.



So yes, N95 masks are worse that surgical masks at preventing the wearer from spreading aerosol viruses.

The study isn't wrong, you are. Got it?

Not every N95 mask has that feature though and during a mask wearing rule, these are actually meant to be forbidden

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Re: nCoV public service announcement. (IMPORTANT)
« Reply #3389 on: June 01, 2021, 07:17:11 AM »
You should believe me because I know many things, if not all.

You appear to be ignorant of the law of Jante.   

Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.