Iran general killed that ordered by Trump

Don’t be stupid. America did not shoot the plane down.

Don’t be stupid. America did not shoot the plane down.

No, she did. Trump has already said him going to target the civilians. Is here a stupid thing here other than your thought?

Don’t be stupid. America did not shoot the plane down.

You sound like a shill. How are you so sure of their innocence? You could not possibly be. You are shilling for a corrupt and contemptible government thus being complicit in the murder of 176 innocent people.

Quote from: sokarul on January 08, 2020, 04:40:43 AM

Don’t be stupid. America did not shoot the plane down.

You sound like a shill. How are you so sure of their innocence? You could not possibly be. You are shilling for a corrupt and contemptible government thus being complicit in the murder of 176 innocent people.

They are corrupt and contemptible.  There is no evidence they shot this plane down.

Why do you think Iran is saying it was an accident?  Don't you think if America had committed mass murder on their soil they might want to tell everyone?

Quote from: Shifter on January 08, 2020, 04:46:10 AM

Quote from: sokarul on January 08, 2020, 04:40:43 AM

Don’t be stupid. America did not shoot the plane down.

You sound like a shill. How are you so sure of their innocence? You could not possibly be. You are shilling for a corrupt and contemptible government thus being complicit in the murder of 176 innocent people.

They are corrupt and contemptible.  There is no evidence they shot this plane down.

Why do you think Iran is saying it was an accident?  Don't you think if America had committed mass murder on their soil they might want to tell everyone?

Do you think Iran want a WW3, or just want to a strong response to USA?

Yeah.  Trump would have tweeted it and Iran would have confirmed it.

Your evidence is timing and unconfirmed casualties that Iran can't really know.  And if 80 did die, Trump would be chest thumping while praising those dead and vowing revenge.


Also, how did Trump get missiles and radar targeting so far into Iran airspace without Iran knowing?

The last plane to be shot down was by the Russians.

There was no evidence it was even shot down.  The pilot steered it away from residential areas and crashed it on a football pitch.

If America had committed this atrocity, Iran would be going mental by now.

Iran is already gone to mental. This is their mental behave gone after their general killed. They're attacking American bases. what else do you expect them; is it  to drop American civilian aircrafts or attack Washington with civilian aircrafts? Are they Al Qaeda and / or USA? Only USA and their created terrorists can kill civils or own people under the name of terror groups.

Iran is already gone to mental. This is their mental behave gone after their general killed. They're attacking American bases. what else do you expect them; is it  to drop American civilian aircrafts or attack Washington with civilian aircrafts? Are they Al Qaeda and / or USA? Only USA and their created terrorists can kill civils or own people under the name of terror groups.

Soo.... Iran's mental behavior is to attack US airbases as revenge but lie when America shoots down a civillian aircraft?  Where is the logic?

Nah I think the plane is either an accident or on Iran. It's either a mechanical failure or someone fucked up and accidentally fired a missile into the plane or the plane crashed into a drone. I don't think it would make much sense for either the US or Iran to intentionally take down that airplane. Or someone else shot it down.

Quote from: wise on January 08, 2020, 02:10:10 AM

(Iran claims they have killed at least 80 American soldiers)

Very, very unlikely, but that's what they can report at home and save some face.

This was a measured response on hardened targets which they knew wouldn't cause mass death of US citizens.  As that would have given Trump an excuse to rain down more missiles on Iranian assets.

A measured response!!!  Do you have any idea how much it'll cost to buff out those scratches!

An attack on the paint job of a military base is an attack on all of us!

I can't figure out if anyone died in the military base or not. Trump tweeted that all's fine. Iran said they killed at least 80. Has there been anything newer?

Quote from: wise on January 08, 2020, 05:21:39 AM

Iran is already gone to mental. This is their mental behave gone after their general killed. They're attacking American bases. what else do you expect them; is it  to drop American civilian aircrafts or attack Washington with civilian aircrafts? Are they Al Qaeda and / or USA? Only USA and their created terrorists can kill civils or own people under the name of terror groups.

Soo.... Iran's mental behavior is to attack US airbases as revenge but lie when America shoots down a civillian aircraft?  Where is the logic?

To keep expectation of public low. otherwise, the people will force them to do more. they cannot afford it, which means they will have failed. they also need to examine the plane recorder to make sure of it. Murdering the general is enough motivation, they don't need more. They are a smart society, they have been here for  thousands of years. they may think more than you think.

I can't figure out if anyone died in the military base or not. Trump tweeted that all's fine. Iran said they killed at least 80. Has there been anything newer?

Not on our side.  If there were any casualties I believe our press would be treating this a lot differently.  Iran is reporting deaths but it's easy to see why they would be lying about that.

Quote from: Lorddave on January 08, 2020, 05:30:21 AM

Quote from: wise on January 08, 2020, 05:21:39 AM

Iran is already gone to mental. This is their mental behave gone after their general killed. They're attacking American bases. what else do you expect them; is it  to drop American civilian aircrafts or attack Washington with civilian aircrafts? Are they Al Qaeda and / or USA? Only USA and their created terrorists can kill civils or own people under the name of terror groups.

Soo.... Iran's mental behavior is to attack US airbases as revenge but lie when America shoots down a civillian aircraft?  Where is the logic?

To keep expectation of public low. otherwise, the people will force them to do more. they cannot afford it, which means they will have failed. they also need to examine the plane recorder to make sure of it. Murdering the general is enough motivation, they don't need more. They are a smart society, they have been here for  thousands of years. they may think more than you think.

Then maybe you should wait until they are sure of it before you cast blame.

I’ll act like a little kid and throw out shit claims.
Iran is refusing to hand over flight data. Iran took down the plane to appease Russia. Russia will now attack the US is the US attacks Iran.

Quote from: Lorddave on January 08, 2020, 05:30:21 AM

Quote from: wise on January 08, 2020, 05:21:39 AM

Iran is already gone to mental. This is their mental behave gone after their general killed. They're attacking American bases. what else do you expect them; is it  to drop American civilian aircrafts or attack Washington with civilian aircrafts? Are they Al Qaeda and / or USA? Only USA and their created terrorists can kill civils or own people under the name of terror groups.

Soo.... Iran's mental behavior is to attack US airbases as revenge but lie when America shoots down a civillian aircraft?  Where is the logic?

To keep expectation of public low. otherwise, the people will force them to do more. they cannot afford it, which means they will have failed. they also need to examine the plane recorder to make sure of it. Murdering the general is enough motivation, they don't need more. They are a smart society, they have been here for  thousands of years. they may think more than you think.

It doesn't make any sense.  If America just mass murdered a bunch of civilians (including 60 Canadians) they could get the whole world on their side.

And let's be honest.  These Boeings sure do go down easy. 

And let's be honest.  These Boeings sure do go down easy.

[insert mom joke here]

Your mom is so easy she goes down like a Boeing.


? ? ?

In actual news.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/iran-plane-crash-missile-strike-ukraine-engine-cause-boeing-a9274721.html

If they've blown their own plane up they'll have some spinning to do.

If they've blown their own plane up they'll have some spinning to do.

Yep.

Quote from: wise on January 08, 2020, 06:03:01 AM

Quote from: Lorddave on January 08, 2020, 05:30:21 AM

Quote from: wise on January 08, 2020, 05:21:39 AM

Iran is already gone to mental. This is their mental behave gone after their general killed. They're attacking American bases. what else do you expect them; is it  to drop American civilian aircrafts or attack Washington with civilian aircrafts? Are they Al Qaeda and / or USA? Only USA and their created terrorists can kill civils or own people under the name of terror groups.

Soo.... Iran's mental behavior is to attack US airbases as revenge but lie when America shoots down a civillian aircraft?  Where is the logic?

To keep expectation of public low. otherwise, the people will force them to do more. they cannot afford it, which means they will have failed. they also need to examine the plane recorder to make sure of it. Murdering the general is enough motivation, they don't need more. They are a smart society, they have been here for  thousands of years. they may think more than you think.

Then maybe you should wait until they are sure of it before you cast blame.

Maybe or maybe not. I am not Iran. They'll learn that already I know.

Quote from: wise on January 08, 2020, 06:03:01 AM

Quote from: Lorddave on January 08, 2020, 05:30:21 AM

Quote from: wise on January 08, 2020, 05:21:39 AM

Iran is already gone to mental. This is their mental behave gone after their general killed. They're attacking American bases. what else do you expect them; is it  to drop American civilian aircrafts or attack Washington with civilian aircrafts? Are they Al Qaeda and / or USA? Only USA and their created terrorists can kill civils or own people under the name of terror groups.

Soo.... Iran's mental behavior is to attack US airbases as revenge but lie when America shoots down a civillian aircraft?  Where is the logic?

To keep expectation of public low. otherwise, the people will force them to do more. they cannot afford it, which means they will have failed. they also need to examine the plane recorder to make sure of it. Murdering the general is enough motivation, they don't need more. They are a smart society, they have been here for  thousands of years. they may think more than you think.

It doesn't make any sense.  If America just mass murdered a bunch of civilians (including 60 Canadians) they could get the whole world on their side.

Result does not change.

I'm listening to Trump's address this morning.  He sounds like he's had a mild stroke.

Oh, he expects Russia and China to help him against Iran. I strongly believe Putin and Jinping are laughing on this offer.

I'm listening to Trump's address this morning.  He sounds like he's had a mild stroke.

He started it really late and did not look good.  Reading slowly from the teleprompter and eyes shifting one way then the next.  Seemed to wearing even more make up than usual.

Then again, he's been like this before then when he's back to carnival barking in front of his fans he's all fired up again.

Seriously though, if he's reelected can you imagine what he might be like in 5 years?

He could have been awake most of the night.

Overall I liked what he said.