Iran general killed that ordered by Trump

Shifter what do you think about Iran before 1979?

Here is a reminder.

https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-before-the-revolution-in-photos-2015-4

Or go to protests. Whopdy fucking do.

"Whopdy fucking do". "Whopdy fucking do". 

Do you have any clue how many things have been achieved by means of collective struggle, protests and general strikes? Do you have any clue how important these things have been to achieve even the bearest minimum of dignity for people? Do you have any clue how many people are doing it right now all over the world and winning? Imagine being so brainwashed.

It's not like you care either way, you just admitted you were "kinda sad" that Trump wants to commit war crimes, but eh, you don't really care all that much because they're scary muslims and it's their fault anyways. Brown people, amirite?

And with that I’m done with you. I didn’t waste all those weekends at CX debates to have you argue so fucking stupidly.

Quote from: The Real Celine Dion on January 06, 2020, 08:45:48 AM

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 06:32:22 AM

People are overlooking something significant here: this wasn't just about killing Soleimani, it's about terrorising rivals. The message this gives to opponents of the US is "no matter who you are and where you are, we don't give a fuck about repercussions and international law, we're just gonna kill you with a drone if you get too uppity".

Kind of like Obama did with all his drone strikes, which also killed countless civilians.

And if Obama had airstriked Soleimani that would have been at least one thing I agreed with him on.

All you're doing now is confirming that you'd like the drone strikes if Trump was doing them (which is true for most republican voters).

I have no problem droning the fuck out of some terrorists.

Shifter what do you think about Iran before 1979?

Here is a reminder.

https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-before-the-revolution-in-photos-2015-4

OMG  BEAUTIFUL ROYALTY!!! OMG THAT'S SO AWESOME OMG OMG OMG  !!! OH I LOVE BEAUTIFUL RICH KINGS!!! I DON'T EVEN CARE THEY HAD LIKE 100,000 POLITICAL PRISONERS EVERY YEAR, THE HIGHEST DEATH PENALTY RATES IN THE WORLD AND PRACTICALLY NO PROPERLY FUNCTIONING CIVILIAN COURTS, THAT'S HOW  BEAUTIFUL  THEY ARE!!! THEY EVEN MADE ME FORGET THAT THE UK AND US OVERTHREW THEIR PREVIOUS DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT AND INSTALLED THESE EXTREMELY GORGEOUS ROYALS IN 1953 BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT TRIED TO NATIONALIZE THE OIL INDUSTRY!!! I FORGOT ABOUT IT EVEN THOUGH IT'S LITERALLY MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLE I LINKED!!! BUT THEN THE NASTY ARABS OR WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HAD TO RUIN IT ALL  I HOPE THEY ALL DIE  I JUST WANT SOME HOT QUEEN TO STEP ON ME IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK??

CX debates

Oh my God you're even lamer than I thought.

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 11:48:22 AM

Quote from: The Real Celine Dion on January 06, 2020, 08:45:48 AM

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 06:32:22 AM

People are overlooking something significant here: this wasn't just about killing Soleimani, it's about terrorising rivals. The message this gives to opponents of the US is "no matter who you are and where you are, we don't give a fuck about repercussions and international law, we're just gonna kill you with a drone if you get too uppity".

Kind of like Obama did with all his drone strikes, which also killed countless civilians.

And if Obama had airstriked Soleimani that would have been at least one thing I agreed with him on.

All you're doing now is confirming that you'd like the drone strikes if Trump was doing them (which is true for most republican voters).

I have no problem droning the fuck out of some terrorists.

Me neither, but for some reason Trump is droning Iranians instead of the Pentagon.

Quote from: The Real Celine Dion on January 06, 2020, 01:58:05 PM

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 11:48:22 AM

Quote from: The Real Celine Dion on January 06, 2020, 08:45:48 AM

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 06:32:22 AM

People are overlooking something significant here: this wasn't just about killing Soleimani, it's about terrorising rivals. The message this gives to opponents of the US is "no matter who you are and where you are, we don't give a fuck about repercussions and international law, we're just gonna kill you with a drone if you get too uppity".

Kind of like Obama did with all his drone strikes, which also killed countless civilians.

And if Obama had airstriked Soleimani that would have been at least one thing I agreed with him on.

All you're doing now is confirming that you'd like the drone strikes if Trump was doing them (which is true for most republican voters).

I have no problem droning the fuck out of some terrorists.

Me neither, but for some reason Trump is droning Iranians instead of the Pentagon.

I'll call a drone strike to obliterate the shithole you call a country.

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 02:00:15 PM

Quote from: The Real Celine Dion on January 06, 2020, 01:58:05 PM

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 11:48:22 AM

Quote from: The Real Celine Dion on January 06, 2020, 08:45:48 AM

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 06:32:22 AM

People are overlooking something significant here: this wasn't just about killing Soleimani, it's about terrorising rivals. The message this gives to opponents of the US is "no matter who you are and where you are, we don't give a fuck about repercussions and international law, we're just gonna kill you with a drone if you get too uppity".

Kind of like Obama did with all his drone strikes, which also killed countless civilians.

And if Obama had airstriked Soleimani that would have been at least one thing I agreed with him on.

All you're doing now is confirming that you'd like the drone strikes if Trump was doing them (which is true for most republican voters).

I have no problem droning the fuck out of some terrorists.

Me neither, but for some reason Trump is droning Iranians instead of the Pentagon.

I'll call a drone strike to obliterate the shithole you call a country.

Most people call America a country, not just me.

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 03:41:46 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 05, 2020, 01:38:35 PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213919480574812160?s=20

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These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!

We're all gonna die.

At least Iran seems to be trying to not further escalate things so far. Which is understandable, a war would be terrible for them.

What the fuck is Iran going to do? attack America's war-machine with their F-4 Phantoms from 1970?

Worst case scenario, maybe send a drone fleet to sink and aircraft carrier.

Remember, Iran is not a country of cave dwelling camel jockeys.  They are much more formidable than Iraq ever was.

Quote from: Denspressure on January 06, 2020, 01:22:59 PM

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 03:41:46 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 05, 2020, 01:38:35 PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213919480574812160?s=20

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These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!

We're all gonna die.

At least Iran seems to be trying to not further escalate things so far. Which is understandable, a war would be terrible for them.

What the fuck is Iran going to do? attack America's war-machine with their F-4 Phantoms from 1970?

Worst case scenario, maybe send a drone fleet to sink and aircraft carrier.

Remember, Iran is not a country of cave dwelling camel jockeys.  They are much more formidable than Iraq ever was.

I don't remember the exact year, but in the early 2000s the US army ran a simulation about a hypothetical scenario where the US would attempt to invade a country which everyone knew was supposed to be Iran, and it went so badly for the US that they had to change the rules mid-simulation to make the US win, and the general handling fake Iran resigned because he didn't want to continue with rules like that.

Now the simulation did have some issues from what I understand but Iran isn't an easy target. It's a massive country that has been preparing for war for years, and it's a natural fortress. There's mountains all around the country. And they would have help from Russia.

A war would end terribly for Iran, but it wouldn't be easy for the US either. So I'm not sure things will go there for now. It's getting dangerous but the tension will hopefully fizzle out.

What an odd situation where Tucker Carlson is the lone voice in the MSM trying to steer us away from war.

I believe Tucker was also the one who convinced Trump to call off the airstrikes that were already in motion after Iran downed that drone several months ago.

Another violent terrorist act by Iran, downing that drone flying in their airspace without permission smh 

I follow some Iranian ex-Muslims on Twitter, they're saying that 4 people have been arrested for insulting Soleimani.

Quote from: Crouton on January 06, 2020, 02:17:39 PM

Quote from: Denspressure on January 06, 2020, 01:22:59 PM

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 03:41:46 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 05, 2020, 01:38:35 PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213919480574812160?s=20

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These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!

We're all gonna die.

At least Iran seems to be trying to not further escalate things so far. Which is understandable, a war would be terrible for them.

What the fuck is Iran going to do? attack America's war-machine with their F-4 Phantoms from 1970?

Worst case scenario, maybe send a drone fleet to sink and aircraft carrier.

Remember, Iran is not a country of cave dwelling camel jockeys.  They are much more formidable than Iraq ever was.

I don't remember the exact year, but in the early 2000s the US army ran a simulation about a hypothetical scenario where the US would attempt to invade a country which everyone knew was supposed to be Iran, and it went so badly for the US that they had to change the rules mid-simulation to make the US win, and the general handling fake Iran resigned because he didn't want to continue with rules like that.

Now the simulation did have some issues from what I understand but Iran isn't an easy target. It's a massive country that has been preparing for war for years, and it's a natural fortress. There's mountains all around the country. And they would have help from Russia.

A war would end terribly for Iran, but it wouldn't be easy for the US either. So I'm not sure things will go there for now. It's getting dangerous but the tension will hopefully fizzle out.

This would be what you're referring to.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

Sometimes I read up on the evolution of technology in war.  A recurring theme I see relying on machines that are stuck in the past and are defeated way easier than anyone imagines.

Belgium builds massive fortesses.  Germany sends in paratroopers.
England builds battleships.  Germany builds uboats.

Now we have carrier groups built with the Cold War in mind.  I'm very skeptical that a carrier group would do well against a drone swarm.

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 02:24:13 PM

Quote from: Crouton on January 06, 2020, 02:17:39 PM

Quote from: Denspressure on January 06, 2020, 01:22:59 PM

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 03:41:46 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 05, 2020, 01:38:35 PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213919480574812160?s=20

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These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!

We're all gonna die.

At least Iran seems to be trying to not further escalate things so far. Which is understandable, a war would be terrible for them.

What the fuck is Iran going to do? attack America's war-machine with their F-4 Phantoms from 1970?

Worst case scenario, maybe send a drone fleet to sink and aircraft carrier.

Remember, Iran is not a country of cave dwelling camel jockeys.  They are much more formidable than Iraq ever was.

I don't remember the exact year, but in the early 2000s the US army ran a simulation about a hypothetical scenario where the US would attempt to invade a country which everyone knew was supposed to be Iran, and it went so badly for the US that they had to change the rules mid-simulation to make the US win, and the general handling fake Iran resigned because he didn't want to continue with rules like that.

Now the simulation did have some issues from what I understand but Iran isn't an easy target. It's a massive country that has been preparing for war for years, and it's a natural fortress. There's mountains all around the country. And they would have help from Russia.

A war would end terribly for Iran, but it wouldn't be easy for the US either. So I'm not sure things will go there for now. It's getting dangerous but the tension will hopefully fizzle out.

This would be what you're referring to.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

Sometimes I read up on the evolution of technology in war.  A recurring theme I see relying on machines that are stuck in the past and are defeated way easier than anyone imagines.

Belgium builds massive fortesses.  Germany sends in paratroopers.
England builds battleships.  Germany builds uboats.

Now we have carrier groups built with the Cold War in mind.  I'm very skeptical that a carrier group would do well against a drone swarm.

I believe the way they won in the sim was kind of the opposite though, they utilised very old tech and asymmetric warfare. It's definitely true that there is a reliance on old outdated technology that will be easily defeated, but also asymmetric warfare has shown to be very effective against opponents such as the US, who utilise conventional methods while never being fully committed to a war, and expecting superior technology to do the job. It does the job for conventional warfare, but things get much harder when it comes to defeating guerrillas with IEDs and suicide vests. Iran is capable for both conventional and asymmetric warfare, although they will be definitely outmatched eventually in the first.

Hopefully things won't get there. I don't think Iran wants to go there because there will be massive casualties for them even if the US backs off eventually. I don't trust Trump but I don't think he can justify going to war with Iran right now, unless Iran escalates things enough to rile people up. Though it's pretty concerning how it seems like he's constantly been trying to escalate things for so long now.

Shifter what do you think about Iran before 1979?

Here is a reminder.

https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-before-the-revolution-in-photos-2015-4

Looks pretty nice. Progressive. But it's not up to me or any other country to dictate what direction another sovereign nation wants to take

How would we like it if another country tried to meddle with our internal affairs or values? Imposed sanctions for not wanting to toe their line and execute who they pleased with drones. It isn't right.


Now your President is essentially trying to call the shots in Iraq demanding American troops remain "or face sanctions like you've never faced before" WTF? Your President is all manner of fucked in the head. He violates Iraqs sovereignty and their not allowed to be pissed? You can't order another nation to welcome a military presence in their country if they don't want it.

Trump is the worst. Even Hillary looks awesome at this point now.

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 03:41:46 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 05, 2020, 01:38:35 PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213919480574812160?s=20

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These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!

We're all gonna die.

At least Iran seems to be trying to not further escalate things so far. Which is understandable, a war would be terrible for them.

What the fuck is Iran going to do? attack America's war-machine with their F-4 Phantoms from 1970?

After how many years of fighting the Taliban, ISIS, various other members of the terror group of the month club, you still don't understand the concept of asymmetrical warfare?

If Iran really wanted to retaliate where it hurts Trump most, just blow up Mar a Lago.  Even if it was empty, it would be a huge blow for him personally and send him on a rampage.

Of course, any attack at any time has a good change of killing Trump, given how often he's there.

Looks pretty nice. Progressive.

It's not very progressive to have 25-100 thousand political prisoners every year, practically arbitrary imprisonment, and the highest rate of death penalties in the world. That's what these terrible articles always omit, they show a bunch of pretty pictures and whitewash a brutal dictatorship because they want to make people think it's actually a really good idea for the US to invade and "liberate" them again, just like they liberated them from the democratic government they had in 1953.

Quote from: Shifter on January 06, 2020, 06:23:46 PM

Looks pretty nice. Progressive.

It's not very progressive to have 25-100 thousand political prisoners every year, practically arbitrary imprisonment, and the highest rate of death penalties in the world. That's what these terrible articles always omit, they show a bunch of pretty pictures and whitewash a brutal dictatorship because they want to make people think it's actually a really good idea for the US to invade and "liberate" them again, just like they liberated them from the democratic government they had in 1953.

I cant find much mention of what you say of the government prior to the Islamic revolution. Do you have a source I can read? I can only find that executions became common place and in public since the Islamic revolution in 1979

I find it strange though..... Some of the reasons for the revolution was "outrage against government extravagance, corruption, brutality, and the suppression of individual rights, before being taken over by Ayatollah Khomeini."

The very same reasons you could apply to Iran now but the caveat is that a lot of the problems within Iran could be eliminated if America didn't sanction the fuck out of it because America doesn't like/respect sovereignty existing in the Middle East

If Australia decided it no longer wanted American military presence in Australia anymore (eg Pine Gap), we should be allowed to tell them to leave. But I bet America would do everything it can to cripple us and forbid any other country including our allies from doing business with us until we relent and let them back in.

America hates the idea that Russia may have or did indeed meddle with their democracy and elections. So why cant the Middle East feel sore about Americas meddling? And its not just meddling with shitty Facebook memes. It's bombing and executions.

is it any wonder there is so much hatred towards America in the Middle East? Hate breeds more hate and eventually 'terrorism'. 9/11 probably would never have happened if America kept its nose in its own backyard. If the Middle East is a shithole destined to fight each other till the end of time, so be  it. America's 'help' isn't helping

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 07, 2020, 12:24:22 AM

Quote from: Shifter on January 06, 2020, 06:23:46 PM

Looks pretty nice. Progressive.

It's not very progressive to have 25-100 thousand political prisoners every year, practically arbitrary imprisonment, and the highest rate of death penalties in the world. That's what these terrible articles always omit, they show a bunch of pretty pictures and whitewash a brutal dictatorship because they want to make people think it's actually a really good idea for the US to invade and "liberate" them again, just like they liberated them from the democratic government they had in 1953.

I cant find much mention of what you say of the government prior to the Islamic revolution. Do you have a source I can read? I can only find that executions became common place and in public since the Islamic revolution in 1979

I find it strange though..... Some of the reasons for the revolution was "outrage against government extravagance, corruption, brutality, and the suppression of individual rights, before being taken over by Ayatollah Khomeini."

The very same reasons you could apply to Iran now but the caveat is that a lot of the problems within Iran could be eliminated if America didn't sanction the fuck out of it because America doesn't like/respect sovereignty existing in the Middle East

If Australia decided it no longer wanted American military presence in Australia anymore (eg Pine Gap), we should be allowed to tell them to leave. But I bet America would do everything it can to cripple us and forbid any other country including our allies from doing business with us until we relent and let them back in.

America hates the idea that Russia may have or did indeed meddle with their democracy and elections. So why cant the Middle East feel sore about Americas meddling? And its not just meddling with shitty Facebook memes. It's bombing and executions.

is it any wonder there is so much hatred towards America in the Middle East? Hate breeds more hate and eventually 'terrorism'. 9/11 probably would never have happened if America kept its nose in its own backyard. If the Middle East is a shithole destined to fight each other till the end of time, so be  it. America's 'help' isn't helping

Oil.
Literally Oil.  If Oil stopped being a thing people need or the ME ran out, no one would give a shit anymore.

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 07, 2020, 12:24:22 AM

Quote from: Shifter on January 06, 2020, 06:23:46 PM

Looks pretty nice. Progressive.

It's not very progressive to have 25-100 thousand political prisoners every year, practically arbitrary imprisonment, and the highest rate of death penalties in the world. That's what these terrible articles always omit, they show a bunch of pretty pictures and whitewash a brutal dictatorship because they want to make people think it's actually a really good idea for the US to invade and "liberate" them again, just like they liberated them from the democratic government they had in 1953.

I cant find much mention of what you say of the government prior to the Islamic revolution. Do you have a source I can read? I can only find that executions became common place and in public since the Islamic revolution in 1979

It comes from Amnesty international, you can see some stuff here:
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1976/10/28/terror-in-iran/
https://web.archive.org/web/20181122160811/https://www.amnesty.org/download/Documents/POL100011975ENGLISH.PDF

Wikipedia has a page which mentions some of the garbage things the shah did:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Imperial_State_of_Iran

Iran wouldn't be such a shithole now if 1) the sanctions and aggression were dropped and 2) the UK and US didn't help the shah topple their democratic government. All a war will do now is make sure even more innocent people suffer and die.

It's pretty mindblowing that America downed an Iranian passenger plane "by accident" killing 290 people and then refused to apologize anyways (even though it was a "mistake"), and for some reason some people still think Iran doesn't like America because they're all racist and evil, or that they will welcome the US army with open arms to liberate them.

Quote from: sokarul on January 06, 2020, 01:50:59 PM

Shifter what do you think about Iran before 1979?

Here is a reminder.

https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-before-the-revolution-in-photos-2015-4

Looks pretty nice. Progressive. But it's not up to me or any other country to dictate what direction another sovereign nation wants to take

How would we like it if another country tried to meddle with our internal affairs or values? Imposed sanctions for not wanting to toe their line and execute who they pleased with drones. It isn't right.


Now your President is essentially trying to call the shots in Iraq demanding American troops remain "or face sanctions like you've never faced before" WTF? Your President is all manner of fucked in the head. He violates Iraqs sovereignty and their not allowed to be pissed? You can't order another nation to welcome a military presence in their country if they don't want it.

Trump is the worst. Even Hillary looks awesome at this point now.

It’s what helps define a superpower. No one ever said a superpower is always good.

Quote from: Shifter on January 06, 2020, 06:23:46 PM

Quote from: sokarul on January 06, 2020, 01:50:59 PM

Shifter what do you think about Iran before 1979?

Here is a reminder.

https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-before-the-revolution-in-photos-2015-4

Looks pretty nice. Progressive. But it's not up to me or any other country to dictate what direction another sovereign nation wants to take

How would we like it if another country tried to meddle with our internal affairs or values? Imposed sanctions for not wanting to toe their line and execute who they pleased with drones. It isn't right.


Now your President is essentially trying to call the shots in Iraq demanding American troops remain "or face sanctions like you've never faced before" WTF? Your President is all manner of fucked in the head. He violates Iraqs sovereignty and their not allowed to be pissed? You can't order another nation to welcome a military presence in their country if they don't want it.

Trump is the worst. Even Hillary looks awesome at this point now.

It’s what helps define a superpower. No one ever said a superpower is always good.

America could still be a superpower while not being the pimple of the worlds arse

You should try being a benevolent superpower rather than a malevolent one

Quote from: Denspressure on January 06, 2020, 01:22:59 PM

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 03:41:46 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 05, 2020, 01:38:35 PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213919480574812160?s=20

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These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!

We're all gonna die.

At least Iran seems to be trying to not further escalate things so far. Which is understandable, a war would be terrible for them.

What the fuck is Iran going to do? attack America's war-machine with their F-4 Phantoms from 1970?

Worst case scenario, maybe send a drone fleet to sink and aircraft carrier.

Remember, Iran is not a country of cave dwelling camel jockeys.  They are much more formidable than Iraq ever was.

Oh yes...so much more formidable...that they lost to Iraq in the war...

Just another totally non-sensical comment...much like all of your comments.

Quote from: Crouton on January 06, 2020, 02:17:39 PM

Quote from: Denspressure on January 06, 2020, 01:22:59 PM

Quote from: Pezevenk on January 06, 2020, 03:41:46 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on January 05, 2020, 01:38:35 PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213919480574812160?s=20

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These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!

We're all gonna die.

At least Iran seems to be trying to not further escalate things so far. Which is understandable, a war would be terrible for them.

What the fuck is Iran going to do? attack America's war-machine with their F-4 Phantoms from 1970?

Worst case scenario, maybe send a drone fleet to sink and aircraft carrier.

Remember, Iran is not a country of cave dwelling camel jockeys.  They are much more formidable than Iraq ever was.

Oh yes...so much more formidable...that they lost to Iraq in the war...

Just another totally non-sensical comment...much like all of your comments.

You want to take on all if Irans much more formidable and capable friends too? A war with Iran, wont be limited to Iran alone. You can bet Russia will back them up. You want to go to war with Russia too?

  I'm very skeptical that a carrier group would do well against a drone swarm.

I am curious...

How often do you actually conduct military assessments?

This latest string of posts from you seems to indicate it is not very often...

You are ignoring this user. Show me the post.

Iran had Russian backing during their war with Iraq?