Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist

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Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« on: December 12, 2019, 12:07:45 AM »
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Just interested in people's opinions on Kevin O'Leary's opinions here. I am a monster fan of "Mr. Wonderful", excluding the fact he loves money so much. I would listen to him read me the alphabet.

The two main points of this clip.

Trump economy- Kevin says the main way Trump has helped is through deregulation and he gave an example in his own business portfolio. I don't know on this yet, though I am in the process of opening a new location, so I may have more of an opinion later. However, at this point I see no difference.

Young socialist/anti capitalism/anti conservative- People grow out of socialism when they get older and experience real life. I agree with this excluding supporting some socialized services.
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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2019, 12:46:13 AM »
The deregulation I don't know. I'm open to the possibility. I have no doubt that we have a lot of regulations that aren't well made and just get in the way. If trump made it a point to create task forces that carefully considered which regulations can be discarded and which ones are important then it would be a good thing.

That's really not the impression that I get from him the way he talks. I feel that he believes that all regulations are bad and just in the way of making a profit. And therefore all regulations should be done away with.
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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2019, 01:16:07 AM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/sharktank/comments/e8lcxz/mr_wonderful_predicts_2020_election_winner_will_be/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=tp_title

Just interested in people's opinions on Kevin O'Leary's opinions here. I am a monster fan of "Mr. Wonderful", excluding the fact he loves money so much. I would listen to him read me the alphabet.

The two main points of this clip.

Trump economy- Kevin says the main way Trump has helped is through deregulation and he gave an example in his own business portfolio. I don't know on this yet, though I am in the process of opening a new location, so I may have more of an opinion later. However, at this point I see no difference.

Young socialist/anti capitalism/anti conservative- People grow out of socialism when they get older and experience real life. I agree with this excluding supporting some socialized services.

As the small to medium sized business owner that you are and perhaps your biz is regulated more than most I can see the appeal. And I'm all for deregulation just as much as regulation. There's just the 'baby out with the bathwater' thing that has to be examined.
He talks about how hard it was to get a wine tasting bar into a stripmall in CA due to some 'frosted glass' regs or some such. Yeah, that's insane. Examine and dispense forthwith. When we run into problems is when we go wholesale; 'Frack Montana by all means necessary'. It's never black and white, so much gray area. And case by case.

Deregulating is 'chipping' not 'driving'.

As for the second bit, yeah, I've found both; the older we get the more conservative and the older we get the more liberal. My experience with people is split down the middle. So I think it's garbage to really state one way or the other is defacto.

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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2019, 01:29:27 AM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/sharktank/comments/e8lcxz/mr_wonderful_predicts_2020_election_winner_will_be/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=tp_title

Just interested in people's opinions on Kevin O'Leary's opinions here. I am a monster fan of "Mr. Wonderful", excluding the fact he loves money so much. I would listen to him read me the alphabet.

The two main points of this clip.

Trump economy- Kevin says the main way Trump has helped is through deregulation and he gave an example in his own business portfolio. I don't know on this yet, though I am in the process of opening a new location, so I may have more of an opinion later. However, at this point I see no difference.

Young socialist/anti capitalism/anti conservative- People grow out of socialism when they get older and experience real life. I agree with this excluding supporting some socialized services.

As the small to medium sized business owner that you are and perhaps your biz is regulated more than most I can see the appeal. And I'm all for deregulation just as much as regulation. There's just the 'baby out with the bathwater' thing that has to be examined.
He talks about how hard it was to get a wine tasting bar into a stripmall in CA due to some 'frosted glass' regs or some such. Yeah, that's insane. Examine and dispense forthwith. When we run into problems is when we go wholesale; 'Frack Montana by all means necessary'. It's never black and white, so much gray area. And case by case.

Deregulating is 'chipping' not 'driving'.

As for the second bit, yeah, I've found both; the older we get the more conservative and the older we get the more liberal. My experience with people is split down the middle. So I think it's garbage to really state one way or the other is defacto.

Regulation is good but shouldn't be over the top. If you allow corporations free reign, they will do as they please, cut corners and perhaps engage in unethical practices in the everlasting pursuit of profit. There is no oversight or accountability until shit royally hits the fan.

Trump is just making populous statements. No one in a business likes the 'regulation' so I'm sure they love what Trump says. I bet there is a huge and pointless amount of red tape that could be done away with but on the whole, industries are better off regulated. It keeps their standards high and people safe

Imagine what would happen (for instance) if public transportation like taxi's was deregulated. Or childcare/schools etc. Or banks?


Me personally, I am probably getting a little more liberal as I get older believe it or not  8) I'm sure having kids has helped push me in that direction
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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2019, 01:42:39 AM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/sharktank/comments/e8lcxz/mr_wonderful_predicts_2020_election_winner_will_be/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=tp_title

Just interested in people's opinions on Kevin O'Leary's opinions here. I am a monster fan of "Mr. Wonderful", excluding the fact he loves money so much. I would listen to him read me the alphabet.

The two main points of this clip.

Trump economy- Kevin says the main way Trump has helped is through deregulation and he gave an example in his own business portfolio. I don't know on this yet, though I am in the process of opening a new location, so I may have more of an opinion later. However, at this point I see no difference.

Young socialist/anti capitalism/anti conservative- People grow out of socialism when they get older and experience real life. I agree with this excluding supporting some socialized services.

He seems reasonable.  His opinion that Trump is like Alexander the Great is a bit off the wall.   

The sad thing is that, Trump could have been a great President if he wasn't corrupt to the core and owned by Putin.   

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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2019, 02:51:59 AM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/sharktank/comments/e8lcxz/mr_wonderful_predicts_2020_election_winner_will_be/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=tp_title

Just interested in people's opinions on Kevin O'Leary's opinions here. I am a monster fan of "Mr. Wonderful", excluding the fact he loves money so much. I would listen to him read me the alphabet.

The two main points of this clip.

Trump economy- Kevin says the main way Trump has helped is through deregulation and he gave an example in his own business portfolio. I don't know on this yet, though I am in the process of opening a new location, so I may have more of an opinion later. However, at this point I see no difference.

Young socialist/anti capitalism/anti conservative- People grow out of socialism when they get older and experience real life. I agree with this excluding supporting some socialized services.

He seems reasonable.  His opinion that Trump is like Alexander the Great is a bit off the wall.   

The sad thing is that, Trump could have been a great President if he wasn't corrupt to the core and owned by Putin.

Worst of all, he believes in gods.

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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2019, 05:14:31 AM »

He seems reasonable.  His opinion that Trump is like Alexander the Great is a bit off the wall.   

The sad thing is that, Trump could have been a great President if he wasn't corrupt to the core and owned by Putin.

I think he more meant an entertainer as Alexander the great... I find that pretty accurate, that is how he won and how he drew more attendees of his rallies than any other candidate by multiples of 10.
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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2019, 05:25:51 AM »


As the small to medium sized business owner that you are and perhaps your biz is regulated more than most I can see the appeal. And I'm all for deregulation just as much as regulation. There's just the 'baby out with the bathwater' thing that has to be examined.
He talks about how hard it was to get a wine tasting bar into a stripmall in CA due to some 'frosted glass' regs or some such. Yeah, that's insane. Examine and dispense forthwith. When we run into problems is when we go wholesale; 'Frack Montana by all means necessary'. It's never black and white, so much gray area. And case by case.

Deregulating is 'chipping' not 'driving'.

As for the second bit, yeah, I've found both; the older we get the more conservative and the older we get the more liberal. My experience with people is split down the middle. So I think it's garbage to really state one way or the other is defacto.

I haven't seen any difference so far, we shall see with the new location in process.

As for age and socialism/left... I dunno, seems pretty accurate from what I have seen of people and myself. I was pretty left in my teens, then moved right pretty quick after being exposed to the real world. Now after success, find myself moving more left again, though not for my own benefit as it was in my early years. But for others, seeing the giant gap forming.

However, still pretty anti government since they waste most of the money they take anyways. Would rather deal with charities and be on the board so at least you can make sure the money is going where it needs. So I dunno.



Imagine what would happen (for instance) if public transportation like taxi's was deregulated.


There was a time it was and it was terrible and dangerous. Just watch Uber as it continues to become shittier and shittier, it's fate has already been sealed, just watch the show. Only reason it is still alive is dumb ass investors pumping billions in it...a model that has never turned a profit and never will...the early NYC cab model before regulation is all we need to see the end of the story.

Idiots


Worst of all, he believes in gods.

What are you even on about?
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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2019, 05:33:30 AM »

Worst of all, he believes in gods.

What are you even on about?

Just jumping on the hate bandwagon.

Everyone has some personal reason to hate Trump.
Are you denying me my right to hate?

Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2019, 05:46:40 AM »
The sad thing is that, Trump could have been a great President if he wasn't corrupt to the core and owned by Putin.
That's like saying my dog could have been a great surgeon, if only he had opposable fingers and thumbs, the ability to talk and much higher intelligence.
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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2019, 05:54:39 AM »
I think he more meant an entertainer as Alexander the great...
He's the Alexander the Great of entertainers?   :o

Not sure what that even means.  If he wants to be Alexander he needs to take his daddy's army and invade Persia.  He did take his daddy's property portfolio and he still might invade Persia, so nearly.  Maybe. Sorta.

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I find that pretty accurate, that is how he won and how he drew more attendees of his rallies than any other candidate by multiples of 10.
He's a classic carnival barker, that's why. 



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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2019, 02:12:38 PM »
The sad thing is that, Trump could have been a great President if he wasn't corrupt to the core and owned by Putin.
That's like saying my dog could have been a great surgeon, if only he had opposable fingers and thumbs, the ability to talk and much higher intelligence.

Bingo!
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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2019, 03:27:06 AM »
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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2019, 08:49:35 AM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/sharktank/comments/e8lcxz/mr_wonderful_predicts_2020_election_winner_will_be/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=tp_title

Just interested in people's opinions on Kevin O'Leary's opinions here. I am a monster fan of "Mr. Wonderful", excluding the fact he loves money so much. I would listen to him read me the alphabet.

The two main points of this clip.

Trump economy- Kevin says the main way Trump has helped is through deregulation and he gave an example in his own business portfolio. I don't know on this yet, though I am in the process of opening a new location, so I may have more of an opinion later. However, at this point I see no difference.

Young socialist/anti capitalism/anti conservative- People grow out of socialism when they get older and experience real life. I agree with this excluding supporting some socialized services.

He seems reasonable.  His opinion that Trump is like Alexander the Great is a bit off the wall.   

The sad thing is that, Trump could have been a great President if he wasn't corrupt to the core and owned by Putin.

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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2019, 08:51:03 AM »
The deregulation I don't know. I'm open to the possibility. I have no doubt that we have a lot of regulations that aren't well made and just get in the way. If trump made it a point to create task forces that carefully considered which regulations can be discarded and which ones are important then it would be a good thing.

That's really not the impression that I get from him the way he talks. I feel that he believes that all regulations are bad and just in the way of making a profit. And therefore all regulations should be done away with.
Well of course that's his opinion. It helped his business portfolio lol.
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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2019, 04:40:20 AM »
If trump made it a point to create task forces that carefully considered which regulations can be discarded and which ones are important then it would be a good thing.

Who would assemble that task force?  The President?
Who ultimately decides which regulations can be discarded
and which ones are important?  The President?

As Barack Obama said . . . Elections have Consequences.


Donald Trump has done exactly what he promised he would do
and I will vote for him again.



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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2019, 05:28:21 AM »
Donald Trump has done exactly what he promised he would do
and I will vote for him again.

I have to agree with Bullwinkle on this. I can't think of any president that literally did every single thing he said he would do.

Build a wall (do all he can go build it and some portions are going up)
Tariff China
Remove regulations
Tax cuts
Replace obamacare (tried to multiple times)
Send more money to border patrol
Start bringing troops back home
Full scale attack isis
build a strong economy
Etc etc

I could actually keep going surprisingly... actually I can't think of anything he didn't do. Even did a Muslim ban lol.

If he didn't have a Twitter and a little self control I would say he wouldn't look half bad
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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2019, 06:02:19 AM »

If he didn't have a Twitter and a little self control I would say he wouldn't look half bad

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« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2019, 06:15:25 AM »
Donald Trump has done exactly what he promised he would do
and I will vote for him again.

I have to agree with Bullwinkle on this. I can't think of any president that literally did every single thing he said he would do.

Build a wall (do all he can go build it and some portions are going up)
Tariff China
Remove regulations
Tax cuts
Replace obamacare (tried to multiple times)
Send more money to border patrol
Start bringing troops back home
Full scale attack isis
build a strong economy
Etc etc

I could actually keep going surprisingly... actually I can't think of anything he didn't do. Even did a Muslim ban lol.

If he didn't have a Twitter and a little self control I would say he wouldn't look half bad

There's a flip side to a lot of these.

This wall was supposed to be funded by Mexico.  Instead he just stole the money from the tax payers under the guise of an emergency order.  On top of that, no new wall has actually been built.  Some upgrades to existing barriers has been done.  Also, I feel the need to reiterate, what Trump is building is a fence.

He tariffs China but to what end?  No one seems to know.

95% of these tax cuts go to the super rich.  And their cuts are permanent.  The crumbs we get expire in a few years.

He's tried to repeal obamacare not replace it.  Huge difference.  He has no plan about what to do after it's repealed. 

We actually have more troops in the middle east, not less.  https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2019/oct/22/brett-mcgurk/mcgurk-right-trump-has-sent-14000-troops-middle-ea/

We have a strong economy for the rich.  It's ok for everyone else.  On top of that our debt is rising faster than it did during ww2.

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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2019, 06:17:11 AM »
Then you should vote for Pocahontas.

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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2019, 06:20:21 AM »
Don't forget that Trump also drained the DC swamp and locked Hillary up just like he promised.
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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2019, 06:30:58 AM »
Don't forget that Trump also drained the DC swamp and locked Hillary up just like he promised.

Technically Trump did do a lot of swamp draining.  A lot of his staff are in fired, in prison, completely disgraced and discredited.  I mean he does replace the swamp but he then drains it again shortly thereafter.
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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2019, 08:45:57 AM »
He made an awful lot of promises, so you can cherry pick a bunch that he did do and ignore all the ones he didn't.

No idea how accurate it is, but the Trump tracker is quite cool

https://trumptracker.github.io/

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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2019, 10:35:46 AM »
Shitty promises kept are still shitty, such as a Muslim ban. He also had full control of the entire government for 2 years and couldn't get shit done on healthcare. His wall was also supposed to be paid for by Mexico.  It's kind of remarkable how people think he has kept his promises, and even more so that it's a good thing.
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Re: Mr. Wonderful on Trump and young socialist
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2019, 12:37:25 AM »
Then you should vote for Pocahontas.

Yep,  I'd probably vote for her.   But don't discount Klobuchar.   This race has a lot of twists and turns ahead.

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« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2019, 12:18:36 AM »
This race has a lot of twists and turns ahead.


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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2019, 03:02:53 AM »
This race has a lot of twists and turns ahead.



Wrong drain,  circling the toilet would be more appropriate.   

I just want Trump gone,   I don't much care if its Bernie or Biden.

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