Sunrives in Daily Occurrence

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2019, 05:53:04 PM »
As I said before, within the cloud there is a glass like body.

This glaas is the cause of such shadow. The sun itself is consistently Higher than the clouds.

What happens to the glass-like body when planes fly through clouds?

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2019, 07:46:41 PM »
As I said before, within the cloud there is a glass like body.

We are talking about reality, not about your imagination.

If there was "glass-like body" in cloud, then airplanes would crash every time trying to fly through it.
In reality they never do.
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2019, 11:13:30 PM »
"We aren't discussing rare phenomenon here. We are discussing an almost daily occurance for SOME PEOPLE"

THEREFORE IT'S RARE, IT'S EXCEPTION 👌
No, therefore it is quite common. It happens every day.

If Earth was flat, this would never happen.

Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2019, 05:53:19 AM »
As I said before, within the cloud there is a glass like body.

OK, I'll bite.  How come planes  don't hit these?
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2019, 09:34:40 AM »
As I said before, within the cloud there is a glass like body.

We are talking about reality, not about your imagination.

If there was "glass-like body" in cloud, then airplanes would crash every time trying to fly through it.
In reality they never do.
Actually, there are countless "glass-like bodies" in clouds.  They're tiny water droplets.  When a plane flies through a cloud, these tiny, glass-like bits of water get the plane wet.
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2019, 01:13:55 AM »


How come the water falls only from some part of the cloud? You can't explain by textbook. 8)

As to the airplane, since training time, the pilots are STRICTLY prohibited to penetrate the cloud. Maybe sometimes they fly at the sides of the cloud, but NEVER penetrate the cloud.


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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2019, 09:55:49 AM »
I'm having trouble picturing this.  Could you draw a diagram of the light rays such that the sun is higher than the clouds, but a shadow is cast from a mountain onto the clouds?
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2019, 01:33:09 AM »
As to the airplane, since training time, the pilots are STRICTLY prohibited to penetrate the cloud. Maybe sometimes they fly at the sides of the cloud, but NEVER penetrate the cloud.
Have you never flown before?

Or have you only been on a plane on perfectly clear days?
If you move fast enough, everything appears flat

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2019, 05:25:33 PM »
Aircraft fly in, and through clouds ALL THE TIME!!!
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2019, 05:56:48 AM »

As to the airplane, since training time, the pilots are STRICTLY prohibited to penetrate the cloud. Maybe sometimes they fly at the sides of the cloud, but NEVER penetrate the cloud.
I take it you have never been on an aircraft?   As this has happened on every flight I have been on.
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2019, 09:45:44 AM »
"Only drunk pilots let the plane go through dark clouds" -- Alexander the Great :o
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2019, 09:53:12 AM »
By the way my flight with longest distance so far is Saudi Arabia.

Now I'm exercising my muscles with jogging, scot jump etc. Hopefully next time I can reach Paris. 👌
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2019, 09:56:25 AM »
I'm having trouble picturing this.  Could you draw a diagram of the light rays such that the sun is higher than the clouds, but a shadow is cast from a mountain onto the clouds?

It's as easy as you imagine a sunray reflection through a mirror. The sunray shape is like the letter "V".
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2019, 11:34:19 AM »
It's as easy as you imagine a sunray reflection through a mirror. The sunray shape is like the letter "V".
You're saying that light reflects off the ground like a mirror?  That hasn't been my experience, but maybe the ground is shinier where you come from.
But why does the light bounce off the ground to illuminate the underside of clouds only during sunrise and sunset?  And why doesn't the light from the sun supposedly always overhead drown out the sun's reflection off the ground?
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2019, 01:03:27 PM »
It's as easy as you imagine a sunray reflection through a mirror. The sunray shape is like the letter "V".
If that was the case then you would still have the clouds illuminated from above and the shadow would be much weaker. But more importantly, this would happen at all times of day, not just before sunrise and just after sunset.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2019, 07:29:04 PM »
It's as easy as you imagine a sunray reflection through a mirror. The sunray shape is like the letter "V".
You're saying that light reflects off the ground like a mirror?  That hasn't been my experience, but maybe the ground is shinier where you come from.
But why does the light bounce off the ground to illuminate the underside of clouds only during sunrise and sunset?  And why doesn't the light from the sun supposedly always overhead drown out the sun's reflection off the ground?

>> The ground of the flying glass within the cloud. It reflects the sunray with significant amount.
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2019, 07:31:03 PM »
It's as easy as you imagine a sunray reflection through a mirror. The sunray shape is like the letter "V".
If that was the case then you would still have the clouds illuminated from above and the shadow would be much weaker. But more importantly, this would happen at all times of day, not just before sunrise and just after sunset.

If the glass stays on the dark substance, it will reflect the sunray stronger.
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2019, 08:14:36 PM »
The ground of the flying glass within the cloud....  the ground ... flying glass ...  ....  LOL WAT

sorry, I really need you to sketch this out
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2019, 08:21:52 PM »
It's as easy as you imagine a sunray reflection through a mirror. The sunray shape is like the letter "V".
If that was the case then you would still have the clouds illuminated from above and the shadow would be much weaker. But more importantly, this would happen at all times of day, not just before sunrise and just after sunset.

If the glass stays on the dark substance, it will reflect the sunray stronger.
Care to even attempt to address what I said?

Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2019, 08:40:25 AM »

sorry, I really need you to sketch this out
Do you though?  Do you?
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2019, 09:31:45 AM »
sorry, I really need you to sketch this out
Dyo you though?  Do you?
I asked the Make-a-Wish foundation for the sketch, but they said I aged out.  They also seemed miffed when I explained to them that I wasn't dying of anything in particular, just dying in general.  As we all are.  Breathe in, breathe out.  That's one less breath before the end.  At my current rate I only have a handful of decades left.  My life's only desire is to learn.  Are you so cold-hearted that you won't spare a dying man this simple request? 
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #51 on: December 11, 2019, 12:53:49 AM »
I apologize of delayed sketch. (Everyone has their own problem)



This is a rare occurrence for a cloud, when the upperneath is disclosed and its glasslike body can reflect the sunray stronger.
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2019, 01:07:50 AM »
It is simply earthshine as the sunlight approaches from an oblique angle. What is so confounding about this?

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2019, 01:21:48 AM »
I apologize of delayed sketch. (Everyone has their own problem)


The clouds are above the mountain, and being illuminated from below, with a shadow cast upwards from the mountain.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2019, 01:54:08 AM »
It is simply earthshine as the sunlight approaches from an oblique angle. What is so confounding about this?
And is this upward slanting shadow caused due to "simply earthshine as the sunlight approaches from an oblique angle"?

So, enough of the excuses and deflection.
Explain how that upward slanting shadow could be be produced on your flat earth with the sun circling some 3000 miles above.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2019, 02:51:38 AM »
This is fake.

The shadow is wrong. It shoud be some distance from the mountain.

By the way is there video version? Please give us a link.
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2019, 02:56:48 AM »
Globe can't answer why the initial view shows the underneath of clouds are DARK. 👌
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2019, 03:15:40 AM »
The shadow is wrong. It shoud be some distance from the mountain.
Why?
It depends entirely upon the height of the clouds relative to the mountain.
If the clouds are quite close in height to the mountain then there will not be a significant gap.

Globe can't answer why the initial view shows the underneath of clouds are DARK. 👌
Do you mean in your photo in the OP?
If so that isn't an "initial view". That is significantly after sunrise or before sunset.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2019, 04:29:15 AM »
Globe can't answer why the initial view shows the underneath of clouds are DARK. 👌

Bottom of the clouds is not a flat surface, like waves on the sea light and shadow are dictated by the amplitude of that uneven surface.

You have to learn to reply without quoting a long previous answer.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2019, 05:00:11 AM »
This is fake.

The shadow is wrong. It shoud be some distance from the mountain.
Tough, it's a real photo so how can it be wrong! Here are some more: