Sunrives in Daily Occurrence

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Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« on: November 17, 2019, 08:18:23 PM »
It's SUNRIVES >> "Sun Arrives", not "Sunrise".

The sun's position is higher than the clouds whose underneath look dark. 8)

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2019, 09:02:36 PM »
It's SUNRIVES >> "Sun Arrives", not "Sunrise".

The sun's position is higher than the clouds whose underneath look dark. 8)



Looks like those folks are standing above the clouds. Are people generally higher than the clouds at sunrive?
No. That sudden lurch forwards is the atmospheric slosh effect.

Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2019, 01:15:05 AM »
If you ever witness sunrise from near the top of a mountain for example it is quite easy to be above the cloud level.   Astronomers located at the La Palma or Mauna Kea observatories for example will bear witness to sunrises and sunsets above the clouds regularly for example. Depends on the height of the clouds obviously as your photo so eloquently shows.

One for my bucket list definitely!

http://www.astro-travels.com/pictures/La-Palma-SARM-2014/Astro-nights/SARM2014-La-Palma-ORM-sunset.jpg

Lovely video here of the Sun setting over Hawaii.  Note the shadow of nearby Mauna Loa.



« Last Edit: November 18, 2019, 01:23:57 AM by Nucleosynthesis »

Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2019, 03:05:17 AM »
It's SUNRIVES >> "Sun Arrives", not "Sunrise".

The sun's position is higher than the clouds whose underneath look dark. 8)

As you already probably know, they are stood on top of a volcano at over 3000m.

https://www.viator.com/en-MY/tours/Maui/Spectacular-Haleakala-Maui-Sunrise-Tour/d671-2360MAUI3
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2019, 03:20:11 AM »
It's SUNRIVES >> "Sun Arrives", not "Sunrise".

The sun's position is higher than the clouds whose underneath look dark. 8)


And in this one the sun's position is lower than the clouds so their underneath looks a beautiful golden colour :).

However does that 5000 km high sun get to be well below Haleakala’s 3,048-meter summit? Funny that!

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2019, 04:15:35 PM »
You guys can see that the bright side initially occures on the upper part of the clouds.
The clouds have layers. If the morning is getting later, there are dark parts of the cloud's underneaths that become brighter and brighter due to the sunray reflection whose intencity is getting stronger and stronger.

But the main point is the occurrence at the beginning of the sunrives, when all clouds have bright side at the upper part, and dark side at their underneaths.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2019, 04:17:32 PM »
"Funny that!"

>> Try again 8)
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2019, 11:20:31 PM »
It's SUNRIVES >> "Sun Arrives", not "Sunrise".
The picture is obviously fake, CGI.

Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2019, 01:12:49 AM »
Do you mean you think all photos of people watching a sunrise/sunset above cloud level is fake or just this one?

Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2019, 02:00:53 AM »
You guys can see that the bright side initially occures on the upper part of the clouds
No, we can't.
Instead pretty much all videos of sunrise where you would be able to tell has the bottom of the clouds illuminated first.

But the main point is the occurrence at the beginning of the sunrives, when all clouds have bright side at the upper part, and dark side at their underneaths.
So you are saying after sunrise we have sunrives?

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2019, 10:21:59 AM »
I'm saying RIP Globe 8)
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2019, 10:24:54 AM »
One picture equals a thousand words

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2019, 11:42:30 AM »
One picture equals a thousand words
Yes, it does. But a picture after sunrise doesn't show what happens at sunrise.



These clouds are clearly illuminated from below.

Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2019, 11:58:06 AM »
One picture equals a thousand words



Danang is lost in translation.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2019, 03:32:51 PM »
One picture equals a thousand words
Yes, it does. But a picture after sunrise doesn't show what happens at sunrise.



These clouds are clearly illuminated from below.

What matters most is the first stage, when the underneath of clouds look dark.
The following occurrence will be either explained differently or just dismished due to photoshop crime  :o

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2019, 03:34:27 PM »
One picture equals a thousand words



Danang is lost in translation.

But it's not worse than Lost in Love 8)
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2019, 05:56:49 PM »
What matters most is the first stage, when the underneath of clouds look dark.
No, what matters most is the first stage of sunrise and the last of sunset, where the light from the sun is shining upwards.
That is something you can never explain.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2019, 05:57:17 PM »
This pic means "the sun lies some distance on the earth's surface next to the mountain"

NO! IT'S PHOTOSHOPED ^_^

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2019, 08:09:47 PM »
This pic means "the sun lies some distance on the earth's surface next to the mountain"

NO! IT'S PHOTOSHOPED ^_^



How so?
No. That sudden lurch forwards is the atmospheric slosh effect.

Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2019, 12:33:22 AM »
NO! IT'S PHOTOSHOPED
Then go take one yourself.
Better yet, go take a video.

Rejecting reality by pretending the images are photoshopped doesn't help your case.
There are plenty of such photos, and it is quite easy to verify by going out and taking such a photo yourself.
Better yet, go to a tall mountain and observe a sunrise or sunset without clouds and see which way the sun comes from and casts a shadow.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2019, 10:17:44 PM »
Photoshop is the best thing that has ever happened to the Flat Earth Society.

I actually wonder if it was not for Photoshop and CGI if the Flat Earth Society would have any traction.

Imagine if we kept up the progress with technology, but somehow still never managed to invent any methods to manipulate images. The flat earth societies number 1 excuse would be gone.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2019, 08:26:24 PM »
This pic means "the sun lies some distance on the earth's surface next to the mountain"

NO! IT'S PHOTOSHOPED ^_^



How so?

The shadow doesn't make sense. It's close to the mountain.

The distance between 'the imaginary sun' and the mountain is supposed to be near. The actual sun stays up the sky, not on the land.
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2019, 08:28:17 PM »
Time is phew.
Phew wins again.
Case closed.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2019, 11:34:50 PM »
This pic means "the sun lies some distance on the earth's surface next to the mountain"

NO! IT'S PHOTOSHOPED ^_^



How so?

The shadow doesn't make sense. It's close to the mountain.

The distance between 'the imaginary sun' and the mountain is supposed to be near. The actual sun stays up the sky, not on the land.

Thats the point. On a globe earth, the sun is setting behind the mountain meaning it's going below the horizon. As it nears the horizon its rays will cast a shadow of the mountain upward, hence the image. On a globe, the shadow makes perfect sense. On a flat earth, it does not.
No. That sudden lurch forwards is the atmospheric slosh effect.

Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2019, 01:31:38 AM »
The shadow doesn't make sense.
No it makes perfect sense.
It showing you are wrong doesn't mean it doesn't make sense, that just means you are wrong.

There is no sane reason at all to think it is photoshopped and as I said, you can verify it by observing such phenomenon yourself.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2019, 06:05:39 PM »
Such rare phenomenon has an explanation. (If not photoshoped)

But daily phenomenon is definite: before the sun shows up, the cloud's underneath looks dark.
The sun is already higher than the cloud since the very beginning. 👌
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2019, 06:31:53 PM »
Such rare phenomenon has an explanation. (If not photoshoped)

But daily phenomenon is definite: before the sun shows up, the cloud's underneath looks dark.
The sun is already higher than the cloud since the very beginning. 👌

Doesn't seem so rare:

No. That sudden lurch forwards is the atmospheric slosh effect.

Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2019, 09:54:00 PM »
Such rare phenomenon has an explanation.
We aren't discussing rare phenomenon here. We are discussing an almost daily occurance for some people, and this does have a very simple explantion, Earth is round.

But daily phenomenon is definite: before the sun shows up, the cloud's underneath looks dark.
And then just before the sun shows up, the bottom of the clouds are illuminated from below, then the sun rises.

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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2019, 04:38:52 PM »
"We aren't discussing rare phenomenon here. We are discussing an almost daily occurance for SOME PEOPLE"

THEREFORE IT'S RARE, IT'S EXCEPTION 👌
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Re: Sunrives in Daily Occurrence
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2019, 04:44:43 PM »
As I said before, within the cloud there is a glass like body.

This glaas is the cause of such shadow. The sun itself is consistently Higher than the clouds.
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