White Helmets founder James Le Mesurier found dead in Turkey!

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White Helmets founder James Le Mesurier found dead in Turkey!
« on: November 11, 2019, 05:08:29 AM »


I remember this man, but I don't remember where I remember him. I think it was another news about how white helmets manipulate events in Syria.

The Turkish security source told MEE (middle east eye) that the former British army officer was found dead outside his home on Monday morning.
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“He appeared to have fallen from a height. Current information suggests he had committed suicide,” the source said on condition of anonymity.

source: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/major-white-helmets-backer-found-dead-istanbul

You know, people who have doubts about here always commit suicide. Either they fall from a height, or left-handed people commit suicide by firing the gun with their right hand, or newlyweds commit suicide. Our country is the center of strange suicides.

Rest in helmets.


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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2019, 09:56:21 AM »
Russians have been spreading rumours about him being MI6 for last few years.

If he committed suicide I would hazard a guess it was using the same method Epstein did, just swap out Clintons for Putins
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Re: White Helmets founder James Le Mesurier found dead in Turkey!
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2019, 10:55:31 AM »
Russians have been spreading rumours about him being MI6 for last few years.

If he committed suicide I would hazard a guess it was using the same method Epstein did, just swap out Clintons for Putins

Such things always happen in Turkey. Someone commits suicide suspiciously, although no one believes it really happened so but the case closes.


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Re: White Helmets founder James Le Mesurier found dead in Turkey!
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2019, 11:11:30 AM »
Russians have been spreading rumours about him being MI6 for last few years.

If he committed suicide I would hazard a guess it was using the same method Epstein did, just swap out Clintons for Putins

Such things always happen in Turkey. Someone commits suicide suspiciously, although no one believes it really happened so but the case closes.
Hmm...  If only you had that same skepticism with Turkey's treatment of the Kurds in Syria.
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Re: White Helmets founder James Le Mesurier found dead in Turkey!
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2019, 11:31:02 AM »
Russians have been spreading rumours about him being MI6 for last few years.

If he committed suicide I would hazard a guess it was using the same method Epstein did, just swap out Clintons for Putins

Such things always happen in Turkey. Someone commits suicide suspiciously, although no one believes it really happened so but the case closes.
Hmm...  If only you had that same skepticism with Turkey's treatment of the Kurds in Syria.

There are Kurds who have strapped bombs to themselves to blow up in front of kids. As a government, how do you respond to that?  :(

Murderous Kurdish scum who burn in hell for not only the murder but the act of suicide.

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Re: White Helmets founder James Le Mesurier found dead in Turkey!
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2019, 11:37:09 AM »
I found where I mentioned him. Here it is.

I'll quote an article has large information about the real face of white helmets.

People are not aware of their real face but they are preparing a chemical attack and kill hundreds of Syrians again. If we can not disclosure them, so they will do that with no mercy.

I have checked the following knowledges with my knowledge and thoughts. I can clearly say that this is a fair article in my mind, shows the real face of white helmets (killer mercenaries)

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https://www.mintpressnews.com/james-le-mesurier-british-ex-military-mercenary-founded-white-helmets/230320/


British ex-mercenary, and founder of the White Helmets, James Le Mesurier, pictured in Istanbul, Turkey. (Photo: Twitter/James Le Mesurier)

Over the past two years, enlightening information has been revealed that thoroughly and unequivocally debunks the “humanitarianism” of the White Helmets in Syria, sometimes referred to as the Syrian Civil Defense.

Since they were founded in 2013, much of Western media has sought to elevate the White Helmets as the “bravest” and most heroic of Syrians. They have been the subject of a Netflix documentary, which won an Oscar, and has consistently been plastered across TV screens in surprisingly well-produced videos showing them removing children from rubble in war-torn areas claimed by Syria’s “rebels.”

However, missing from this unambiguously positive coverage has been the group’s ties to terrorist groups like al-Qaeda, their doctoring of footage, their role in executing civilians and their use of children – both dead and alive – as props for producing pro-intervention propaganda. Also absent is how the White Helmets have received over $123 million from 2013 to 2016 from the U.S. and UK governments, as well as Western NGOs and Gulf state monarchies.



While numerous articles have been devoted to dispelling the propaganda that surrounds the group and detailing their shady ties to known terrorist organizations like Syria’s al-Qaeda branch Al-Nusra Front, significantly less attention has been focused on how the group was created, particularly on the man who founded them – James Le Mesurier, a British private security specialist, and former British military intelligence officer.

Related | How The Syria’s White Helmets Became The Latest Neocon Tool For Regime Change

Le Mesurier’s role in founding the White Helmets and propagating its mythology to a Western audience was exposed in 2015 thanks to the work of independent journalist Vanessa Beeley.

Beeley, who spoke to MintPress News at length for this report, notes that it was Le Mesurier’s “‘realization that humanitarian aid was more effective at maintaining war than an army” that spurred his creation of the organization in order “to maintain public support for another costly war in a country that is, in reality, posing little to no threat to mainland America” or its allies.

James Le Mesurier: from mercenary to “humanitarian”

Though mainstream narratives have suggested that the White Helmets were trained by the Red Cross, the White Helmets were actually founded in March 2013 by Le Mesurier. He, like many officers in the British military, attended the Royal Military Academy, where he graduated at the top of his class, receiving the Queen’s Medal.

He later served in the British Army and operated in a variety of theaters. Most notably, Le Mesurier served as intelligence coordinator for Pristina City in Kosovo soon after the NATO intervention that led to NATO being accused of war crimes for its targeting of thousands of civilians and media.


Having served the governments of the UK, US, UN and Gulf States, James Le Mesurier was able to very quickly garner financial support from fervent supporters of Syrian regime change. (Sofie Gran/Aspunvik)

By 2000, Le Mesurier left the army and went to work for the United Nations as he had “realized humanitarian aid was more effective” than an army in theaters of war during his time with the British military. He, again, served in a variety of locations, focusing on “delivering stabilization activities through security sector and democratization programs.” According to Le Mesurier, “stabilization activities” refers to the “framework for engagement in ‘fragile’ states” or, in other words, destabilized nations.

Prior to his founding of the White Helmets, Le Mesurier served as Vice President for Special Projects at the Olive Group, a private mercenary organization that has since merged with Blackwater-Academi into what is now known as Constellis Holdings. Then, in 2008, Le Mesurier left the Olive Group after he was appointed to the position of Principal at Good Harbor Consulting, chaired by Richard A. Clarke – a veteran of the U.S. national security establishment and the counter-terrorism “czar” under the Bush and Clinton administrations.

Related | John Pilger: The White Helmets Are A “Complete Propaganda Construct”


After joining Good Harbor, Le Mesurier became based in Abu Dhabi, where he specialized in risk management, emergency planning, and critical infrastructure protection. He trained a UAE gas field protection force and “ensured the safety” of the 2010 Gulf Cup in Yemen, a regional soccer tournament. But following this work, Le Mesurier claims to have become dissatisfied, wanting to have a more direct impact on the communities he worked in.

He told Men’s Journal in 2014 that it was the idea of using his military training to benefit civilians that truly enthused him: “the idea of being a civilian carrying a weapon and guiding a convoy in a conflict zone — that leaves me cold.”

White Helmets founded through Western funding

When it came to time to found the White Helmets in March 2013, Le Mesurier seemed to have simply been in the right place at the right time. According to his own account, he founded the group in Turkey after being “compelled” by Syrians’ wartime stories.

James Le Mesurier: The British Ex-Military Mercenary Who Founded The White Helmets
James Le Mesurier poses on a ferry dock in Istanbul, Turkey. (Photo: Twitter/James Le Mesurier)

Despite founding the White Helmets in Turkey, he raised $300,000 in seed funding provided by the UK, the U.S. and Japan, which Le Mesurier apparently had no trouble scrounging up. The $123 million dollars that was funneled soon after to the organization by the U.S. and UK governments, along with Western NGOs and Qatar, dispels all notion of the organization’s alleged “impartiality” and “non-partisan” stance on the Syrian conflict stated on their website.

He then used it to train 25 “vetted” Syrians “to deal with the chaos erupting around them.” By September of that year, more than 700 “vetted” individuals were believed to have undergone training under Le Mesurier’s supervision.

However, Le Mesurier’s ties to British military intelligence, mercenary groups and involvement in “stabilization activities” and “democratization programs” suggest that his convenient appearance in Istanbul, Turkey is perhaps not too coincidental. As Beeley noted in an interview with MintPress: “there are very few coincidences in the multi-spectrum, hybrid war that has been waged against Syria by the U.S. coalition since 2011.”

Indeed, the White Helmets were founded when the West was losing on both the propaganda and military front regarding the push for regime change and foreign intervention in Syria. More specifically, as Beeley told MintPress, the group’s founding took place just after “the Syrian government had raised concerns about a terrorist chemical weapon attack in Khan Al Asal against the SAA [Syrian Arab Army].”

It should come as no surprise then that, since their founding, the White Helmets have been instrumental in blaming the Syrian government for any and all subsequent chemical weapons attacks in Syria, acting as both witnesses and responders to events that were later proven to be the work of the armed opposition in Syria or staged. As a result, Beeley argued that it’s well within reason to speculate that the White Helmets were explicitly founded with this purpose in mind.


James Le Mesurier, pictured in Istanbul, Karaköy dock. Photo:His twitter

However, it is Le Mesurier himself who shed light on why the White Helmets were formed at such a crucial point for the foreign-funded opposition. As Le Mesurier noted in a speech delivered on June 2015, in “fragile” (i.e. destabilized) states, security actors – such as mercenaries or foreign armies – have the lowest level of public trust. However, Le Mesurier states that in contrast, those professions with the highest level of public trust in such situations are firefighters, paramedics, rescue workers and other similar types of first responders.



Le Mesurier, however, is not the only figure linked to the British military to take such a perspective. UK Admiral Sir Philip Jones, Chief of Naval Staff, stated last year that “the hard punch of military power is often delivered inside the kid glove of humanitarian relief.” It is for this reason that military actions sponsored by the United States and its allies for the past few decades have often been framed as “humanitarian interventions.”

Thus, the White Helmets were seen as a chance to reclaim the trust that the Syrian opposition fighters had lost, as news of their affiliation with terrorist groups began to spread.

In reclaiming that trust in Western audiences, the White Helmets have done nothing to ease the burden of war in Syria, but have fomented it by underpinning the very propaganda that has kept the conflict raging on for over six years, as well as undermined the ability of the Syrian and Russian governments to secure diplomatic alternatives to continued fighting.

Indeed, despite their claim of “impartiality,” the White Helmets were instrumental in Western attempts to bolster international support for Western intervention and a “no-fly zone” in Syria. However, such intervention will bring much more devastation to Syria, something the White Helmets profess to want to end.


Read Saleh left, the head of the civil defense units in the northern city of Idlib, and Farouk al-Habib, right, a media campaigner for the White Helmets, sit on a panel to draw attention to their work in Syria in midtown New York, September, 2014.

Training the White Helmets

While the White Helmets have successfully been framed as a professionally-trained first responder group active in Syria, there is plenty of evidence suggesting that their training was entirely different. First responders and doctors in other countries have been skeptical about the “aid” the White Helmets have delivered.

For instance, Dr. Leif Elinder, a Swedish pediatrician, told the Indicter that “after examination of the video material [of the White Helmets], I found that the measures inflicted upon those children, some of them lifeless, are bizarre, non-medical, non-lifesaving, and even counterproductive in terms of life-saving purposes of children.”

Other medical doctors have stated that other procedures conducted by the White Helmets as seen in the previously mentioned Netflix documentary were performed so poorly they would have killed the children, who were already deceased when the footage was taken.

In addition, first responder groups have also found flaws with the White Helmet’s trained rescues. Questions have been raised such as: how did the White Helmets know the bodies would be exactly where they found them?; Why are no attacks heard or seen in White Helmet videos – only the “aftermath”?; and why have the White Helmets chosen to “recycle” footage of the people they are allegedly helping?

White Helmets Fake Resques / Fakery





Thus, if the White Helmets were not actually trained in first aid – as the above suggests – what did Le Mesurier and his team actually train them to do?

According to Beeley, Le Mesurier trained the White Helmets as a military group, as they have been found “working side by side with the Nusra Front and other extremist groups such as Nour Al Din Zinki in East Aleppo, where their ‘humanitarian’ centers were invariably alongside Nusra Front or even in the same building.”

Noting the White Helmet’s lack of paramedic expertise and the numerous photographs showing them carrying weapons, she added that this “confirms that their role has been as military and logistical support for their Nusra Front colleagues.”

However, the training received by the White Helmets likely did not stop there.

Beeley strongly believes that they were given extensive training in the production of propaganda – specifically, trained in camerawork and video production in order to produce videos for the media. She noted that “the sheer number of cameras on site at any one of their rescue productions demonstrates that they are well versed in publicity craft.”

Furthermore, Beeley suggested that the White Helmet’s footage used in their documentary also proves this point:

“The Oscar-winning Netflix documentary that recorded their exploits was based entirely on footage taken by the White Helmets themselves and supplied to the producers of the movie who did not leave Turkey and were therefore unable to verify the authenticity of the footage. The quality of video supplied suggests that the White Helmets were using sophisticated equipment and had been well trained in its use.

Thus, this training has enabled the White Helmets to accomplish two major goals for the governments and organizations that have orchestrated its rise to prominence.

First, as Beeley pointed out, it has facilitated “further proxy military intervention and to incite pseudo-humanitarian outrage from the International community and western public.”

Second, it has allowed the atrocities of the extremist factions that work with the White Helmets to be camouflaged by the “humanitarianism” of the group, which has been instrumental in allowing foreign governments to continue arming and funding these extremist, terrorist organizations with complete impunity.

Le Mesurier, for his part, has apparently become tired of the limelight – perhaps as a result of the thorough debunking of the terrorist-linked organization he fostered. Though still listed as an employee of Good Harbor, Le Mesurier has removed himself from the site of MayDay Rescue, a White Helmets-linked organization he founded, and all mention of him has been erased from the White Helmets website.

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Re: White Helmets founder James Le Mesurier found dead in Turkey!
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2019, 11:38:02 AM »
Russians have been spreading rumours about him being MI6 for last few years.

If he committed suicide I would hazard a guess it was using the same method Epstein did, just swap out Clintons for Putins

Such things always happen in Turkey. Someone commits suicide suspiciously, although no one believes it really happened so but the case closes.
Hmm...  If only you had that same skepticism with Turkey's treatment of the Kurds in Syria.

There are Kurds who have strapped bombs to themselves to blow up in front of kids. As a government, how do you respond to that?  :(

Murderous Kurdish scum who burn in hell for not only the murder but the act of suicide.
Well, you could always try to figure out the root cause that's driving them to murder/suicide and see if that's something that you can resolve.

There are far more Kurds who simply wish to live in peace.  As a government, how do you respond to that?
« Last Edit: November 11, 2019, 11:40:48 AM by markjo »
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Re: White Helmets founder James Le Mesurier found dead in Turkey!
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2019, 11:40:51 AM »
This is not a kurdish related issue. This is a jihadist related issue.

I guess this is about the so called death of Baghdadi. Of course I don't believe he was killed, but some jihadist people who believe that he really is dead may have done it for revenge.

Because there were some jihadists related Le Mesurier have high sympathy to Baghdadi. At least, theorically they have to be. I mean, I guess.


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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2019, 03:05:57 PM »
This is not a kurdish related issue.
It's a question of when do you trust or not trust what the government tells you.
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Re: White Helmets founder James Le Mesurier found dead in Turkey!
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2019, 10:02:59 PM »
This is not a kurdish related issue.
It's a question of when do you trust or not trust what the government tells you.
It is not what government says. I did not say that I believe what the government says about the Kurds. I told them that my news sources are from Syria. that the government says the same things does not make a story wrong.


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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2019, 02:57:00 PM »
This is not a kurdish related issue.
It's a question of when do you trust or not trust what the government tells you.
It is not what government says. I did not say that I believe what the government says about the Kurds. I told them that my news sources are from Syria. that the government says the same things does not make a story wrong.
Do you think that the Syrian government doesn't control the Syrian news sources?
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2019, 10:29:55 PM »
This is not a kurdish related issue.
It's a question of when do you trust or not trust what the government tells you.
It is not what government says. I did not say that I believe what the government says about the Kurds. I told them that my news sources are from Syria. that the government says the same things does not make a story wrong.
Do you think that the Syrian government doesn't control the Syrian news sources?
Of course. Media is always in the hands of Robert Murdoch, wherever media exists.


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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2019, 06:39:00 AM »
This is not a kurdish related issue.
It's a question of when do you trust or not trust what the government tells you.
It is not what government says. I did not say that I believe what the government says about the Kurds. I told them that my news sources are from Syria. that the government says the same things does not make a story wrong.
Do you think that the Syrian government doesn't control the Syrian news sources?
Of course. Media is always in the hands of Robert Murdoch, wherever media exists.
Who is Robert Murdoch? ???  Is he the new president of Syria?
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2019, 08:28:10 AM »
This is not a kurdish related issue.
It's a question of when do you trust or not trust what the government tells you.
It is not what government says. I did not say that I believe what the government says about the Kurds. I told them that my news sources are from Syria. that the government says the same things does not make a story wrong.
Do you think that the Syrian government doesn't control the Syrian news sources?
Of course. Media is always in the hands of Robert Murdoch, wherever media exists.
Well, not in Turkey, where the government controls most of it.  Where they don't they just arrest journalists - they have jailed more journalists than any other country.

And obviously Murdoch doesn't control any media in Syria either.
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Re: White Helmets founder James Le Mesurier found dead in Turkey!
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2019, 09:49:34 AM »
This is not a kurdish related issue.
It's a question of when do you trust or not trust what the government tells you.
It is not what government says. I did not say that I believe what the government says about the Kurds. I told them that my news sources are from Syria. that the government says the same things does not make a story wrong.
Do you think that the Syrian government doesn't control the Syrian news sources?
Of course. Media is always in the hands of Robert Murdoch, wherever media exists.
Well, not in Turkey, where the government controls most of it.  Where they don't they just arrest journalists - they have jailed more journalists than any other country.

And obviously Murdoch doesn't control any media in Syria either.

no. When you convince murdoch and then whole media is defending a leader. When someone else convinces Murdoch, this time the entire media is writing against the leader he had previously defended. that's all. murdoch also decides which journalists should be imprisoned.


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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2019, 01:02:40 PM »
This is not a kurdish related issue.
It's a question of when do you trust or not trust what the government tells you.
It is not what government says. I did not say that I believe what the government says about the Kurds. I told them that my news sources are from Syria. that the government says the same things does not make a story wrong.
Do you think that the Syrian government doesn't control the Syrian news sources?
Of course. Media is always in the hands of Robert Murdoch, wherever media exists.
Well, not in Turkey, where the government controls most of it.  Where they don't they just arrest journalists - they have jailed more journalists than any other country.

And obviously Murdoch doesn't control any media in Syria either.

no. When you convince murdoch and then whole media is defending a leader. When someone else convinces Murdoch, this time the entire media is writing against the leader he had previously defended. that's all. murdoch also decides which journalists should be imprisoned.
Are you saying that Murdoch is more powerful than Erdogan and Assad put together?  :o
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2019, 01:19:55 PM »
murdoch also decides which journalists should be imprisoned.
So, how does that work then? 

And why does he tell Turkey to lock up so many Turkish journalists who write things critical of Erdogan or the Turkish government?

Or maybe you're talking shit again.

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Re: White Helmets founder James Le Mesurier found dead in Turkey!
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2019, 01:53:02 PM »
Prosecutors say the outcome of the autopsy process continues to be assessed.

Meantime, Le Mesurier's wife was prohibited from gone abroad.


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