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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #240 on: February 21, 2020, 06:52:52 AM »
If Pi is right by maths, but wrong by experiment, the problem will be the maths... which is wrong



As discussed - your method of experiment is wrong.

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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #241 on: February 21, 2020, 07:35:06 AM »
@Yes

I meant
1. I don't have measurement tape, moreover it's not transparent. There is covering at the number zero



2. Rulers don't necessarily tell the right size. But that doesn't matter to measure C/D.


here is my track:

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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #242 on: February 21, 2020, 07:45:52 AM »
If Pi is right by maths, but wrong by experiment, the problem will be the maths... which is wrong



As discussed - your method of experiment is wrong.

Wrong?? At which part?

Experiments will dismiss any wrong written calculation. 8)
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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #243 on: February 21, 2020, 08:02:57 AM »
@Yes

I meant

1. I don't have measurement tape, moreover it's not transparent. There is covering at the number zero
<snip>
And, if you actually watched my video I covered that problem and cut that end giving me a 2cm offset.  Problem solved and accuracy increased.
2. Rulers don't necessarily tell the right size. But that doesn't matter to measure C/D.

here is my track:
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What you don’t understand is that it really doesn’t matter if a give ruler or measuring tape gives the correct size.  We’re calculating a ratio of circumference over diameter.  If you use the same measuring tape for all the measurements the ratio will be correct.  You can make up your own system of units and as long as you use the same units the ratio of circumference over diameter will ALWAYS be right.

I made sure I discussed all of this in my video.  I used the same tape measure on all the disks so the ratio of circumference over diameter was correct.  And, the all were about the same value.

Fact 1: All the ratios came out to 3.14
Fact 2: I did your “6 radian experiment” and it proved that 3.17157 is WRONG!
Fact 3: My video destroyed phew on every single measurement.

You are doing everything to avoid admitting 3.17157 doesn’t pass any direct measurement.

Mike
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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #244 on: February 21, 2020, 08:46:03 AM »
If Pi is right by maths, but wrong by experiment, the problem will be the maths... which is wrong



As discussed - your method of experiment is wrong.

Wrong?? At which part?

Experiments will dismiss any wrong written calculation. 8)

Use a ruler with higher resolution - curiouser used an electronic caliper

Use a cylinder, not a conical cup.

Theres nothing magical about straight up measuring.
2000years and billions of people use and get pi.

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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #245 on: February 21, 2020, 09:56:51 AM »
here is my track:


Thank you for sharing.



Ya know, I think I'm done with this thread.
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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #246 on: February 21, 2020, 12:39:40 PM »
If Pi is right by maths, but wrong by experiment
And that is a massive IF, because you are yet to demonstrate that pi is wrong by experiment.
So far all experiments confirm pi.

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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #247 on: February 21, 2020, 11:34:28 PM »
~ RIP Pythagorean Theorem means RIP Trigonometry ~

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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #248 on: February 21, 2020, 11:46:47 PM »
~ RIP Trigonometry means RIP Pi ~

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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #249 on: February 21, 2020, 11:49:42 PM »
If Pi is right by maths, but wrong by experiment
And that is a massive IF, because you are yet to demonstrate that pi is wrong by experiment.
So far all experiments confirm pi.

Dare to show your experiment?
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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #250 on: February 21, 2020, 11:57:44 PM »
If Pi is right by maths, but wrong by experiment, the problem will be the maths... which is wrong





As discussed - your method of experiment is wrong.

Wrong?? At which part?

Experiments will dismiss any wrong written calculation. 8)

Use a ruler with higher resolution - curiouser used an electronic caliper

Use a cylinder, not a conical cup.

Theres nothing magical about straight up measuring.
2000years and billions of people use and get pi.

Curiouser's caliper was starving. Its angle was a bit more than 90 degrees. Why not before using the caliper, feed it first. 8)

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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #251 on: February 21, 2020, 11:59:34 PM »
here is my track:


Thank you for sharing.



Ya know, I think I'm done with this thread.

You're welcome
Thank you and happy phew 8)
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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #252 on: February 22, 2020, 12:05:02 AM »
@Yes

I meant

1. I don't have measurement tape, moreover it's not transparent. There is covering at the number zero
<snip>
And, if you actually watched my video I covered that problem and cut that end giving me a 2cm offset.  Problem solved and accuracy increased.
2. Rulers don't necessarily tell the right size. But that doesn't matter to measure C/D.

here is my track:
<snip>
What you don’t understand is that it really doesn’t matter if a give ruler or measuring tape gives the correct size.  We’re calculating a ratio of circumference over diameter.  If you use the same measuring tape for all the measurements the ratio will be correct.  You can make up your own system of units and as long as you use the same units the ratio of circumference over diameter will ALWAYS be right.

I made sure I discussed all of this in my video.  I used the same tape measure on all the disks so the ratio of circumference over diameter was correct.  And, the all were about the same value.

Fact 1: All the ratios came out to 3.14
Fact 2: I did your “6 radian experiment” and it proved that 3.17157 is WRONG!
Fact 3: My video destroyed phew on every single measurement.

You are doing everything to avoid admitting 3.17157 doesn’t pass any direct measurement.

Mike

Pi will show up if the tape gets stretched as you did. Take it easy man...
Pi Tape is an international non verbal announcement about insufficiency of pi.
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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #253 on: February 22, 2020, 12:37:53 AM »
Dare to show your experiment?
There has already been plenty shown in this thread. All have been consistent with pi (at least when you consider the uncertainty).
But plenty have refuted your phew BS.

At the far more fundamental level, your phew BS relies upon a shorter path magically being longer. Going to explain how that is the case yet?

Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #254 on: February 22, 2020, 05:25:24 AM »
Pi will show up if the tape gets stretched as you did. Take it easy man...
Pi Tape is an international non verbal announcement about insufficiency of pi.
You didn’t actually watch the video, did you?  Your replies are things I discuss in the video.  I used a fiberglass tape measure which doesn’t stretch.  I made sure it was flat, not twisted, and in contact with the disk over the entire circumference. 

Your comment shows just how amazingly desperate you are.  I deliberately used disk sizes that would have large enough difference between the predicted circumferences making it easy see and beyond how far a fiberglass tape can stretch.  Even if you tried to force it that far you’d break the tape before it stretched far enough.  The disks were made out of foam board so even if I tried to stretch the tape that far it would crush the foam.

It’s clear you didn’t watch or at least didn’t pay attention because I knew what most of the replies you would use to dismiss my measurements.  So, I made sure I picked materials, tools, and sizes to crush your inevitable replies. 

You keep going on about pi tape...if you had watched the video, you’d know that’s not what I used so just let it go already.


If Pi is right by maths, but wrong by experiment
And that is a massive IF, because you are yet to demonstrate that pi is wrong by experiment.
So far all experiments confirm pi.

Dare to show your experiment?
~ (As a scientist, not pi salesman) ~
I showed all of measurements so π is confirmed and phew fails. 

Mike
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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #255 on: February 23, 2020, 10:33:47 AM »
How come you claim this and that while its cores are drunk? :o

Pythagorean theorem fails, so trigonometry fails too, accordingly Pi rests in peace ;D 8)
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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #256 on: February 23, 2020, 12:26:59 PM »
Pythagorean theorem fails, so trigonometry fails too, accordingly Pi rests in peace ;D 8)
Since when does it fail?
It has so many different proofs it isn't funny.

My favourite is a square tilted in a square.

So no, none of it fails.
The only failure here is you and your phew BS.

Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #257 on: February 23, 2020, 12:35:50 PM »
How come you claim this and that while its cores are drunk? :o

Pythagorean theorem fails, so trigonometry fails too, accordingly Pi rests in peace ;D 8)
What is your evidence that Pythagorean theorem fails?

Mike
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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #258 on: February 23, 2020, 01:02:35 PM »
Hohoho ;D

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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #259 on: February 23, 2020, 01:04:25 PM »
"Reading Trig Table without Verifying" :o ;D
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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #260 on: February 23, 2020, 01:36:04 PM »
Hohoho ;D


That's not evidence of anything.  Please provide your evidence that the Pythagorean theorem fails.

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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #261 on: February 23, 2020, 01:43:15 PM »
Hohoho ;D

All that shows is that his "machine" in inaccurately made like all your measurements have been!
Hmmmmm :o

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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #262 on: February 23, 2020, 01:53:20 PM »
3^2 + 4^2 gives hypotenuse 5^2 + something tiny

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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #263 on: February 23, 2020, 04:21:51 PM »
Another video with a bit variation: the water is substracted to approach the hipotenuse.

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Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #264 on: February 24, 2020, 12:04:21 AM »
Hohoho ;D
So no evidence then?

All that is needed to prove it is a square inside a square.

The outer square has side lengths of a+b
The inner square has side lengths of c.
It touches the outer square such that it divides the edge of the outer square into a length of a and a length of b.
This produces 4 right angle triangles with side lengths a, b and c.

The area of the inner square is c^2. The area of a single triangle is a*b/2, so the are of the 4 triangles is 2*a*b.
The are of the outer square must be the sum of those areas, i.e. c^2+2*a*b. Its area is also (a+b)^2=a^2+b^2+2*a*b.

That means a^2+b^2+2*a*b = c^2+2*a*b
And thus a^2+b^2 = c^2.

There is no way out of this and no experimental error as it is pure math.

Any experiment you try and do which produces just a little bit more or less requires you to determine the experimental accuracy and if that little bit more or less is just due to experimental error.

Re: Pi is For Circular Area, 2Phew for Circumference
« Reply #265 on: February 28, 2020, 02:27:33 AM »
How come you claim this and that while its cores are drunk? :o

Pythagorean theorem fails, so trigonometry fails too, accordingly Pi rests in peace ;D 8)
Still haven't refuted my video I see.  ;D

Mike
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Re: RIP Pythagorean Theorem, RIP Trigonometry, RIP Pi=3.14159 ^_^
« Reply #266 on: February 28, 2020, 09:49:06 PM »
Pi Tape fails... the expanation was only short 👉 "dimension" :o

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