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Is the painting in the OP art?

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Is this art?
« on: September 16, 2019, 01:58:26 PM »
This is actually a strange political test, I will reveal after some answers (don't cheat and look it up on Google). Supposedly accurate, I guess we shall see. It was accurate on me. Post your answers in the thread and let's see.



The question, is this art?

Yes or no
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2019, 02:13:08 PM »
Ja.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2019, 03:06:08 PM »
What is art? How do you define art?
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2019, 04:12:18 PM »
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2019, 05:00:56 PM »
Oh good Lord, nevermind. This isn't the thread to have existential philosophical conversations about our existence.

Can't y'all just answer a damn simple question??

Ok, fuck it, the supposed thing with this is someone that supports Trump will say it isn't art. Someone that does not will think it's art.

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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2019, 05:22:34 PM »
Quote from: Bom Tishop on September 16, 2019, 01:58:26 PM
This is actually a strange political test, I will reveal after some answers (don't cheat and look it up on Google). Supposedly accurate, I guess we shall see. It was accurate on me. Post your answers in the thread and let's see.



The question, is this art?

Yes or no
No!

But if it was done by my youngest grandchild about 14 years ago I'd certainly encourage them to go further.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2019, 05:34:48 PM »
What your criterion for art is is a valid question.  My standards are pretty high.  I want to see a reasonably high level of skill and insight in something before I can call it art.

So by my standards, the answer is no.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2019, 06:34:04 PM »


Art



Not art.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2019, 06:52:04 PM »
Quote from: Crouton on September 16, 2019, 05:34:48 PM
What your criterion for art is is a valid question.  My standards are pretty high.  I want to see a reasonably high level of skill and insight in something before I can call it art.

So by my standards, the answer is no.
I agree
Now, while I don't "like" Salvador Dali's  surrealism, it does show "a reasonably high level of skill and insight" and I do class it as art.

Salvador Dali  The Persistence of Memory
And numerous more.

But so many modern artists seem to lazy to learn any art techniques.
They might find that their creativity would have been more effectively expressed had they done so.

But what would a Philistine like me know about such matters ????
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2019, 07:01:53 PM »
If you can ever go and see Salvador Dali's work in person, it is worth it. So many little details in every painting.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2019, 07:09:45 PM »
Art is anything created on purpose that serves absolutely no purpose.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2019, 08:01:37 PM »
Quote from: Bullwinkle on September 16, 2019, 07:09:45 PM
Art is anything created on purpose that serves absolutely no purpose.
Well, they're different ::)! Dalí i Domènech, Salvador: The Collection.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2019, 08:12:36 PM »
Art makes you think.
Good art makes you feel.
Great art makes you feel something that you've never felt before.

Or some crap like that.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2019, 08:47:14 PM »
Omg people....is no one able to read the OP? I am pretty sure it was in basic English, it was a simple yes or no.

Is it art?
Yes/no

I was trying to see if there was any accuracy to this article about the picture. Obviously there isn't, as people who have said it isn't art definitely are not Trump supporters.

I said it was art simply for the fact in the most general of terms it is "art". However, good art, or something I would pay over a penny for..... definitely not
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2019, 09:58:44 PM »
Quote from: Bom Tishop on September 16, 2019, 08:47:14 PM
Omg people....is no one able to read the OP? I am pretty sure it was in basic English, it was a simple yes or no.

Is it art?
Yes/no

I was trying to see if there was any accuracy to this article about the picture. Obviously there isn't, as people who have said it isn't art definitely are not Trump supporters.

I said it was art simply for the fact in the most general of terms it is "art". However, good art, or something I would pay over a penny for..... definitely not

Yes,  it's art.  That's coffee-thyme by the artist Sam Gilliam.

https://www.wikiart.org/en/sam-gilliam/coffee-thyme-1980

Not my taste,  but anything is art if you choose to call it that.

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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2019, 10:54:57 PM »
Quote from: Bom Tishop on September 16, 2019, 05:00:56 PM
Oh good Lord, nevermind. This isn't the thread to have existential philosophical conversations about our existence.

Can't y'all just answer a damn simple question??

Ok, fuck it, the supposed thing with this is someone that supports Trump will say it isn't art. Someone that does not will think it's art.

I've voted its being art. It is even a high quality art but retards can not get it. It is art, Trump retart.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2019, 02:23:29 AM »


I think it’s a piece of crap that I wouldn’t give house room, it might go on the fridge if my children had done it (at about 4-5yrs old), but not for long, which is why I’d make a terrible art critic and parent. I would however rather have that on my wall than piss on Trump if he was on fire, does that give you an answer?
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2019, 02:41:44 AM »
Quote from: Crouton on September 16, 2019, 06:34:04 PM


Not art.
Of course it is.  It's created by an artist, hangs in a gallery and serves no purpose beyond the asthetic.   You think it's bad art, but that doesn't stop it from being art.

Personally I prefer the Pollock to the Raft of Medusa - which I find gloomy, overwrought and not at all to my taste (can't say I like much from that period and style).  I can do this and still recognise that the Raft took far more technical skill to create.

Now here's a painting:


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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2019, 03:29:48 AM »
I think it's a bit weird that many people think something has to be good or hard to create to be art. Yes it's art. No it's not good.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2019, 03:37:47 AM »
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Omg people....is no one able to read the OP? I am pretty sure it was in basic English, it was a simple yes or no.

Is it art?
Yes/no

I was trying to see if there was any accuracy to this article about the picture. Obviously there isn't, as people who have said it isn't art definitely are not Trump supporters.

I said it was art simply for the fact in the most general of terms it is "art". However, good art, or something I would pay over a penny for..... definitely not

Yes,  it's art.  That's coffee-thyme by the artist Sam Gilliam.

https://www.wikiart.org/en/sam-gilliam/coffee-thyme-1980

Not my taste,  but anything is art if you choose to call it that.



Thanks had no idea where it came from. That is interesting.


As for everyone, I think they lost the point of the OP
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2019, 03:55:13 AM »
If you want a Yes or No, use a poll.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2019, 03:57:02 AM »
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Ok, fuck it, the supposed thing with this is someone that supports Trump will say it isn't art. Someone that does not will think it's art.

So your OP was that Trumpers are simplistic people with little education, and are proud of the fact?
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2019, 04:01:48 AM »
Quote from: Bom Tishop on September 16, 2019, 08:47:14 PM
Omg people....is no one able to read the OP? I am pretty sure it was in basic English, it was a simple yes or no.

Is it art?
Yes/no

I was trying to see if there was any accuracy to this article about the picture. Obviously there isn't, as people who have said it isn't art definitely are not Trump supporters.

I said it was art simply for the fact in the most general of terms it is "art". However, good art, or something I would pay over a penny for..... definitely not
I can't see the picture over which you posed the question.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2019, 04:02:22 AM »
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on September 17, 2019, 03:57:02 AM
Quote from: Bom Tishop on September 16, 2019, 05:00:56 PM


Ok, fuck it, the supposed thing with this is someone that supports Trump will say it isn't art. Someone that does not will think it's art.

So your OP was that Trumpers are simplistic people with little education, and are proud of the fact?

I was simply posting the picture with nothing else seeing if the article was correct. I suspected it was trying to say Trump supporters are dumb shits (as it was from a mainstream source, and they are a propaganda machines for the left and consider themselves better and more intelligent than the right), I just wanted to test it.

My suspicions was proven correct, the article was complete bullshit just like 95 percent of all mainstream slop.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on September 17, 2019, 03:55:13 AM
If you want a Yes or No, use a poll.

That would give me no information genius, since it would be anonymous. I need to see who voted what as I know who are Trump supporters and who are not on this site. That is why I asked to post in the thread
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2019, 01:02:35 AM »
I do not think it is art. There is no culture and it does not evoke any feeling. It also does not require any talent.

Here is another piece that makes a mockery of what constitutes art

In the London Gallery you could find this once upon a time:


A blank canvas. What a joke.

Or how about this selling for 44 million of dollars


https://nypost.com/2013/05/15/43-8-million-for-this/

Damn! Now why didn't I think of doing that!!  :( :(

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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2019, 02:32:28 AM »

We were invited to Lincoln Universities end of year exhibition of work a few years ago, rooms of work done by the various faculties of art, some of the sculptures were excellent and the jewellery was really good but the room with Art Installations was risible, a sizable work of hay bales arranged in a spiral and section of plaster-board with a hammer stuck in it with some hazard tape across it were memorable in a, you have got to be kidding kind of way.

We, (my partner and I) listened to some guy who was clearly one of the tutors, explaining conceptually why a frame made of plastic guttering with a photo of a river in it had exited him, my partner saw me glancing towards the hammer, took my hand and led me to the fire door where we stood discussing how its bold use of nature’s warning colour, belied the underlying comfort of its form in a dangerous situation, although we clashed on whether its opening redness in perilous circumstance was a yearning for a return to the womb.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2019, 05:46:58 AM »
Yeah but did you jump into the bay?
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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2019, 06:36:24 AM »
Quote from: Pezevenk on September 20, 2019, 05:46:58 AM
Yeah but did you jump into the bay?

Sorry, I feel I've missed a meme here.
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« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2019, 06:47:25 AM »
Adam Ruins the art world.
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Re: Is this art?
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2019, 06:57:16 AM »
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on September 20, 2019, 06:36:24 AM
Quote from: Pezevenk on September 20, 2019, 05:46:58 AM
Yeah but did you jump into the bay?

Sorry, I feel I've missed a meme here.
Meant to say hay.
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