behavior of gravity

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behavior of gravity
« on: September 07, 2019, 01:13:22 PM »
the behavior of gravity, is well-known from Newton.
The cause of gravity is still not quite understood, Einstein's relativity is as close as we've gotten so far.
That does not mean we can't use gravity, to explain what we observe, and how to use it?
We use it to put satellites in orbit, we use it to send, probes to orbit around Saturn,
we use it to put probes on Mars,
we use it to put probes eo do flybys of the outer planets.
We have used it to put man on the moon.
But enough of that.
The mass of the earth, has a gravitational pull to its center. It appears that you have no understanding of this.  As you deny it.
The earth rotates, making one rotation in 24 hours.( Exact numbers are not required for that understanding) this giving you a day night cycle.
The earth orbits the sun in 365 days, you ask how we know this, it is the change of the constellations in the night sky. In every four years, we make an adjustment of a day to have the right consolation facing us again.( Leap year ).
We now get more complex, by adding the moon, to this model.
It is said the moon orbits the earth, this is not quite true, as the earth moon pair, orbit their common gravitational  center point. But the moon being smaller of the pair, is the one considered to be orbiting, and approximately in 29 days. The center point, is also within the surface of the earth, and moves in line with the, orbit of the moon, and is the cause of lunar tides. These are the observation of the earth moon orbiting the sun.
I do not know how to explain it to you, any better that I just have.

The the universe has no obligation to makes sense to you.
The earth is a globe.

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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2019, 08:31:23 PM »
What about this phenomenon in tides? Is it real?

« Last Edit: September 07, 2019, 08:34:41 PM by Danang »
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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2019, 08:55:14 PM »
What about this phenomenon in tides? Is it real?


That's nothing to do with tides! It just proves you are clumsy.

But gravitation, both that of the moon and sun, is the prime cause of tides though there are many other factors.

Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2019, 08:56:53 PM »
What about this phenomenon in tides? Is it real?


Cool freeze shot; but a tide no.
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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2019, 10:20:44 PM »
So... gravity doesn't exist.
Case closed 8)
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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2019, 10:34:19 PM »
So... gravity doesn't exist.
Case closed 8)
Case reopened :)

Where you drag that from? Gravity causes an acceleration but doesn't make anything instantly drop.
If you caught it in 1/100 of a second of the peak it could have fallen more than 0.5 mm and
if you caught it in 1/1000 of a second of the peak it could have fallen more than 0.005 mm.

And either of those are quite possible with electronic timing.

Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2019, 08:45:58 PM »
So... gravity doesn't exist.
Case closed 8)
No: there would be no falling  cup without gravity.
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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2019, 08:48:32 PM »
So... gravity doesn't exist.
Case closed 8)
No: there would be no falling  cup without gravity.
No "real" response to your "behavior of gravity"? I wonder why?

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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2019, 09:03:12 PM »
So... gravity doesn't exist.
Case closed 8)
No: there would be no falling  cup without gravity.
No "real" response to your "behavior of gravity"? I wonder why?

Gravity is not the ultimate reason the cup falls.

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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2019, 10:09:25 PM »
So... gravity doesn't exist.
Case closed 8)
No: there would be no falling  cup without gravity.
No "real" response to your "behavior of gravity"? I wonder why?

Gravity is not the ultimate reason the cup falls.
Aren't you going to enlighten us poor ignorant souls :P?

Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2019, 10:14:58 PM »
So... gravity doesn't exist.
Case closed 8)
No: there would be no falling  cup without gravity.
No "real" response to your "behavior of gravity"? I wonder why?

Gravity is not the ultimate reason the cup falls.
There was something supporting the cup, that's something stopped supporting the cup, therefore the cup falls.
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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2019, 03:20:56 PM »
Misunderstood picture...

I'd better put this: "coffee tides"~



How come moon's gravity (if it existed) is, besides stronger than earth's gravity, also discriminates coffee drink?
If moon's gravity existed there would be coffee tides.~
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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2019, 03:24:19 PM »
"Because coffee drink's mass is too small"

"No gibberish argument please"~
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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2019, 04:03:48 PM »
How come moon's gravity (if it existed) is, besides stronger than earth's gravity, also discriminates coffee drink?
If moon's gravity existed there would be coffee tides.~
The moon's gravity is not stronger than Earth's.
The reason you don't see any noticeable tidal effects on coffee is because it is too small. It isn't the mass, it is the size.
This is based upon the tidal force. Earth is large, so the tidal force on it from the moon can be significant.
A coffee is tiny and thus the tidal force is insignificant.

If you dislike gibberish arguments so much all you need to do is stop making them.

If you want to claim there should be tides in coffee, you will need far more than a baseless assertion.

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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2019, 04:36:25 PM »
Misunderstood picture...

I'd better put this: "coffee tides"~



How come moon's gravity (if it existed) is, besides stronger than earth's gravity, also discriminates coffee drink?
If moon's gravity existed there would be coffee tides.~

tides are caused by the difference the force of gravity from the Moon on the near side of Earth and the far side. The moon pulls slightly more on the closest water than it does on the Earth and the water on the other side of the planet. Your cup of coffee is too small to have a measurable difference from side to side.
https://www.livescience.com/29621-what-causes-the-tides.html

Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2019, 05:07:39 PM »
Misunderstood picture...

I'd better put this: "coffee tides"~



How come moon's gravity (if it existed) is, besides stronger than earth's gravity, also discriminates coffee drink?
If moon's gravity existed there would be coffee tides.~
One more CGI or Photoshop creation, why should I bother responding.
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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2019, 01:58:36 PM »
"Finally, to return to the titular problem, how else would you define gravity or your density-attraction mess?"

>> Too bad you didn't know that there is Universal Acceleration approach as an alternative of gravity.

Phew has renamed it with Downwards Universal DeAcceleration.

TRY: Phew = 3.17157 (for C) and (Curved Grided) South Pole Centered FE Map AKA Phew FE Map and Downwards Universal Deceleration.

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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2019, 12:44:08 PM »
I cleared most of the garbage out of this thread.

Danang, stop spamming your phew stuff everywhere. If you want to debate phew start a new thread, or go back to one of the other endless arguments about it.

I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2019, 02:34:30 PM »
"Finally, to return to the titular problem, how else would you define gravity or your density-attraction mess?"

>> Too bad you didn't know that there is Universal Acceleration approach as an alternative of gravity.

Phew has renamed it with Downwards Universal DeAcceleration.
Universal acceleration, does not explain the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does.
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The earth is a globe.

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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2019, 05:07:25 PM »
"Finally, to return to the titular problem, how else would you define gravity or your density-attraction mess?"

>> Too bad you didn't know that there is Universal Acceleration approach as an alternative of gravity.

Phew has renamed it with Downwards Universal DeAcceleration.
Universal acceleration, does not explain the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does.

There is no indication of gravity at all in reality.

DUDEA (downwards Universal DeAcceleration) gives emphirical explatations, e.g. no magnet effect or sticky on the ground, the direction of free fall objects. No gravity no density. It's DUDEA.

Moon and sun have their own tracks on which they revolve with a perfect machinery mechanism. That's why the time goes with perfect precisions in every year.

If gravity existed earth and moon had experienced fast changing distances and had been collided.
TRY: Phew = 3.17157 (for C) and (Curved Grided) South Pole Centered FE Map AKA Phew FE Map and Downwards Universal Deceleration.

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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2019, 05:17:09 PM »
"Finally, to return to the titular problem, how else would you define gravity or your density-attraction mess?"

>> Too bad you didn't know that there is Universal Acceleration approach as an alternative of gravity.

Phew has renamed it with Downwards Universal DeAcceleration.
Universal acceleration, does not explain the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does.

There is no indication of gravity at all in reality.
Incorrect! Gravitation has been directly measured hundreds if times.

Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2019, 05:49:02 PM »
"Finally, to return to the titular problem, how else would you define gravity or your density-attraction mess?"

>> Too bad you didn't know that there is Universal Acceleration approach as an alternative of gravity.

Phew has renamed it with Downwards Universal DeAcceleration.
Universal acceleration, does not explain the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does.

There is no indication of gravity at all in reality.

DUDEA (downwards Universal DeAcceleration) gives emphirical explatations, e.g. no magnet effect or sticky on the ground, the direction of free fall objects. No gravity no density. It's DUDEA.

Moon and sun have their own tracks on which they revolve with a perfect machinery mechanism. That's why the time goes with perfect precisions in every year.

If gravity existed earth and moon had experienced fast changing distances and had been collided.
The current theory is that colliding is what created the moon. 
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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2019, 11:51:39 PM »
"Finally, to return to the titular problem, how else would you define gravity or your density-attraction mess?"

>> Too bad you didn't know that there is Universal Acceleration approach as an alternative of gravity.

Phew has renamed it with Downwards Universal DeAcceleration.
Universal acceleration, does not explain the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does.

There is no indication of gravity at all in reality.
Incorrect! Gravitation has been directly measured hundreds if times.

Too bad RErs confuse between Free Fall Object and Gravity as if there were no other theory describing such phenomenon with better sense.
TRY: Phew = 3.17157 (for C) and (Curved Grided) South Pole Centered FE Map AKA Phew FE Map and Downwards Universal Deceleration.

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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2019, 11:53:22 PM »
"Finally, to return to the titular problem, how else would you define gravity or your density-attraction mess?"

>> Too bad you didn't know that there is Universal Acceleration approach as an alternative of gravity.

Phew has renamed it with Downwards Universal DeAcceleration.
Universal acceleration, does not explain the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does.

There is no indication of gravity at all in reality.

DUDEA (downwards Universal DeAcceleration) gives emphirical explatations, e.g. no magnet effect or sticky on the ground, the direction of free fall objects. No gravity no density. It's DUDEA.

Moon and sun have their own tracks on which they revolve with a perfect machinery mechanism. That's why the time goes with perfect precisions in every year.

If gravity existed earth and moon had experienced fast changing distances and had been collided.
The current theory is that colliding is what created the moon.

That even makes the explanation more absurd. Why the moon not gets closer anymore for a long time?
TRY: Phew = 3.17157 (for C) and (Curved Grided) South Pole Centered FE Map AKA Phew FE Map and Downwards Universal Deceleration.

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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2019, 12:16:36 AM »
"Finally, to return to the titular problem, how else would you define gravity or your density-attraction mess?"

>> Too bad you didn't know that there is Universal Acceleration approach as an alternative of gravity.

Phew has renamed it with Downwards Universal DeAcceleration.
Universal acceleration, does not explain the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does.

There is no indication of gravity at all in reality.
Incorrect! Gravitation has been directly measured hundreds if times.

Too bad RErs confuse between Free Fall Object and Gravity as if there were no other theory describing such phenomenon with better sense.
Too bad that "Universal acceleration" or "Downwards Universal DeAcceleration ::)", if you prefer, "does not explain the orbit of the ISS, the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does."

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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2019, 09:24:08 AM »
"Finally, to return to the titular problem, how else would you define gravity or your density-attraction mess?"

>> Too bad you didn't know that there is Universal Acceleration approach as an alternative of gravity.

Phew has renamed it with Downwards Universal DeAcceleration.
Universal acceleration, does not explain the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does.

There is no indication of gravity at all in reality.
Incorrect! Gravitation has been directly measured hundreds if times.

Too bad RErs confuse between Free Fall Object and Gravity as if there were no other theory describing such phenomenon with better sense.
Too bad that "Universal acceleration" or "Downwards Universal DeAcceleration ::)", if you prefer, "does not explain the orbit of the ISS, the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does."

What happens when the number of bodies in a simulation is more than two?
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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2019, 09:38:51 AM »
What happens when the number of bodies in a simulation is more than two?
Then you can use an N-body simulation.
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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2019, 01:44:38 PM »
"Finally, to return to the titular problem, how else would you define gravity or your density-attraction mess?"

>> Too bad you didn't know that there is Universal Acceleration approach as an alternative of gravity.

Phew has renamed it with Downwards Universal DeAcceleration.
Universal acceleration, does not explain the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does.

There is no indication of gravity at all in reality.
Incorrect! Gravitation has been directly measured hundreds if times.

Too bad RErs confuse between Free Fall Object and Gravity as if there were no other theory describing such phenomenon with better sense.
Too bad that "Universal acceleration" or "Downwards Universal DeAcceleration ::)", if you prefer, "does not explain the orbit of the ISS, the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does."

What happens when the number of bodies in a simulation is more than two?

the math become very difficult to calculate.
what happens when the calculation is kind of complex but we still know the thing exists?

Are you saying double pendulums don't exist becuase we can't calculate them?


are you saying dry spaghetti doesn't shatter into a million pieces?
oh wait, someone did figure this one out eventually.
https://www.outerplaces.com/science/item/18755-spaghetti-feynman-two-pieces


Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2019, 01:45:44 PM »
What happens when the number of bodies in a simulation is more than two?
As has already been addressed the last time you brought it up, there is no longer a simple elegant solution and instead it is solved step-wise.
However in some cases when the masses of some bodies are insignificant you can ignore them when dealing with the other bodies and get a fairly accurate result.

It becoming far more complex doesn't magically mean it isn't real.
There not being a simple elegant solution, doesn't mean that it can't happen.

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Re: behavior of gravity
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2019, 05:41:22 PM »
"Finally, to return to the titular problem, how else would you define gravity or your density-attraction mess?"

>> Too bad you didn't know that there is Universal Acceleration approach as an alternative of gravity.

Phew has renamed it with Downwards Universal DeAcceleration.
Universal acceleration, does not explain the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does.

There is no indication of gravity at all in reality.
Incorrect! Gravitation has been directly measured hundreds if times.

Too bad RErs confuse between Free Fall Object and Gravity as if there were no other theory describing such phenomenon with better sense.
Too bad that "Universal acceleration" or "Downwards Universal DeAcceleration ::)", if you prefer, "does not explain the orbit of the ISS, the orbit of the Moon, or the orbit of the earth around the sun, gravity does."

ISS? What do you mean?

The orbits of celestial bodies follow the tracks above the dome like a perfect clock mechanism.
That's why time never fails along the day and night.
I cannot imagine such case could apply on celestial bodies with independent positions and orbits and frictions under 'gravity' which never been kissed, I meant, ;D never been proven ✌
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