Can you design a compass for a spherical world?

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So, now we know how a compass would work on a Globe Earth if it had a magnetic attraction which the theory lacks.

You have been shown that this is incorrect. The Earth magnetic field doesn't work that way. See above diagram.


You may as well move on to the next crazy YouTube flattard tidbit.

Globe Earth has a magnetic field? Since when?

Troll: confirmed

There's no way you can possibly be that retarted.

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

and being measured every day. More trolling from plat

Quote from: Crutchwater on August 24, 2019, 04:17:40 PM

Troll: confirmed

There's no way you can possibly be that retarted.

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

Why design one? I have one like this, an old Silva TYPE 1, and it works quite well:

I've used this for decades.

By the way it is important to get a compass suitable for your hemisphere.

What is Orienteering? Compass types
Assuming that the compass is held flat, the red end points to north, and the white end to south.

An interesting detail is that there are northern- and southern-hemisphere compasses. This has to do with the fact that the magnetic field lines, to which a compass needle aligns, point into the earth at the north and south magnetic poles. In the northern hemisphere the north end of the needle is pulled downwards, and the south end is counterweighted to balance the needle. When you use a northern hemisphere compass in, say, Australia, the south end of the magnet is pulled downwards by the magnetic field, and is also heavier than the north end - resulting in a needle that catches and drags on the bottom of the compass housing when the compass is held horizontal. 

I liked that Insane Clown Posse was finally brought in!

So, now we know how a compass would work on a Globe Earth if it had a magnetic attraction which the theory lacks.

Nice straight lines.
Youve been told the lines arent straight.
Are you saying very easily verifiable magnetic rings dont exist?

https://images.app.goo.gl/fLEfPZW2gdzte3wH6

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

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Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

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If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

What maps do you use with your compass?

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Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

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If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

What maps do you use with your compass?

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field.

So, what anchors are used to hold sphere Earth in place while sphere Earth’s flowing liquid metal in the outer core of the planet generates electric currents for a magnetic field?

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Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

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If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

What maps do you use with your compass?

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field.

So, what anchors are used to hold sphere Earth in place while sphere Earth’s flowing liquid metal in the outer core of the planet generates electric currents for a magnetic field?

What maps do you use with your compass again?

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 25, 2019, 10:17:54 AM

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Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

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If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

What maps do you use with your compass?

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field.

So, what anchors are used to hold sphere Earth in place while sphere Earth’s flowing liquid metal in the outer core of the planet generates electric currents for a magnetic field?

What maps do you use with your compass again?

The magnetic field has failed the Globe Community. How can they navagate without one?

National Geographic reports that the temperature of the Earth’s outer core is estimated to be between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field. And don't let it get too hot or it will fail you!

What needs to be anchored?

Quote from: Stash on August 25, 2019, 11:35:33 AM

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Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

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If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

What maps do you use with your compass?

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field.

So, what anchors are used to hold sphere Earth in place while sphere Earth’s flowing liquid metal in the outer core of the planet generates electric currents for a magnetic field?

What maps do you use with your compass again?

The magnetic field has failed the Globe Community. How can they navagate without one?

National Geographic reports that the temperature of the Earth’s outer core is estimated to be between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field. And don't let it get too hot or it will fail you!

If the magnetic field fails you for some reason, you can always trust a gyrocompass to point at the true north, all thanks to earth's rotation.

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Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

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If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

What maps do you use with your compass?

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field.

So, what anchors are used to hold sphere Earth in place while sphere Earth’s flowing liquid metal in the outer core of the planet generates electric currents for a magnetic field?

What maps do you use with your compass again?

The magnetic field has failed the Globe Community. How can they navagate without one?

National Geographic reports that the temperature of the Earth’s outer core is estimated to be between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field. And don't let it get too hot or it will fail you!

What map do you use with your compass?

And again you propose an argument which would also refute a FE.
These magnetic compasses work at any altitude.
For that to work with a FE you will need a literal pole extending from the north pole up into space for the compass needle to be attracted to.
If you went for the far more reasonable, something below the surface of Earth generating a magnetic field then you have the same non-problem. You have the direction to magnetic north going down.

But as already pointed out, they don't magically point to magnetic north. They align with the magnetic field.
There are 2 significantly different instruments for determining the direction. One is a compass. This is designed such that the torque from misalignment in the horizontal direction will turn the needle to align it. Meanwhile the torque from misalignment in the vertical direction is prevented from turning the compass due to its construction.
Then there is a dip circle, which has the opposite, where the vertical torque can turn the needle.

And of course, this instrument exists, and has already been used with the inclination of Earth's magnetic field measured.

So yet another non-argument from you.

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Quote from: rabinoz on August 24, 2019, 08:19:24 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

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If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

What maps do you use with your compass?

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field.

So, what anchors are used to hold sphere Earth in place while sphere Earth’s flowing liquid metal in the outer core of the planet generates electric currents for a magnetic field?

What maps do you use with your compass again?

The magnetic field has failed the Globe Community. How can they navagate without one?

National Geographic reports that the temperature of the Earth’s outer core is estimated to be between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field. And don't let it get too hot or it will fail you!

so says Plat Terra who's already proven to be ignorant on every other subject he brought up.

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Quote from: rabinoz on August 24, 2019, 08:19:24 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

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If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

What maps do you use with your compass?

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field.

So, what anchors are used to hold sphere Earth in place while sphere Earth’s flowing liquid metal in the outer core of the planet generates electric currents for a magnetic field?

What maps do you use with your compass again?

The magnetic field has failed the Globe Community. How can they navagate without one?

National Geographic reports that the temperature of the Earth’s outer core is estimated to be between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field. And don't let it get too hot or it will fail you!

so says Plat Terra who's already proven to be ignorant on every other subject he brought up.

Remove anchors from this generator, start the engine, and let me know what kind of magnetic field you have. 

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Quote from: Plat Terra on August 25, 2019, 08:26:28 AM

Quote from: rabinoz on August 24, 2019, 08:19:24 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

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If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

What maps do you use with your compass?

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field.

So, what anchors are used to hold sphere Earth in place while sphere Earth’s flowing liquid metal in the outer core of the planet generates electric currents for a magnetic field?

What maps do you use with your compass again?

The magnetic field has failed the Globe Community. How can they navagate without one?

National Geographic reports that the temperature of the Earth’s outer core is estimated to be between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field. And don't let it get too hot or it will fail you!

so says Plat Terra who's already proven to be ignorant on every other subject he brought up.

Remove and anchors from this generator, start the engine, and let me know what kind of magnetic field you have. 

Looks like the kind of magnetic field you have would be of the hillbilly variety. I think you might be able to run the heater for a moonshine still with that thing, but not generate an earth encompassing magnetic field. But fire her up and let us know how your compass works nearby.

Speaking of compasses, what maps do you use with your compass?

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Quote from: rabinoz on August 24, 2019, 08:19:24 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

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If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

What maps do you use with your compass?

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field.

So, what anchors are used to hold sphere Earth in place while sphere Earth’s flowing liquid metal in the outer core of the planet generates electric currents for a magnetic field?

What maps do you use with your compass again?

The magnetic field has failed the Globe Community. How can they navagate without one?

National Geographic reports that the temperature of the Earth’s outer core is estimated to be between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field. And don't let it get too hot or it will fail you!

so says Plat Terra who's already proven to be ignorant on every other subject he brought up.

Remove and anchors from this generator, start the engine, and let me know what kind of magnetic field you have. 

Looks like the kind of magnetic field you have would be of the hillbilly variety. I think you might be able to run the heater for a moonshine still with that thing, but not generate an earth encompassing magnetic field. But fire her up and let us know how your compass works nearby.

Speaking of compasses, what maps do you use with your compass?

I am amazed. Points of a hillbilly generator destroys the Globe Earth magnetic field and Stash is at a loss for words and yields with ridicule hoping the revealed truth just melts away.   

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Quote from: Plat Terra on August 25, 2019, 08:26:28 AM

Quote from: rabinoz on August 24, 2019, 08:19:24 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

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If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

What maps do you use with your compass?

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field.

So, what anchors are used to hold sphere Earth in place while sphere Earth’s flowing liquid metal in the outer core of the planet generates electric currents for a magnetic field?

What maps do you use with your compass again?

The magnetic field has failed the Globe Community. How can they navagate without one?

National Geographic reports that the temperature of the Earth’s outer core is estimated to be between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field. And don't let it get too hot or it will fail you!

so says Plat Terra who's already proven to be ignorant on every other subject he brought up.

Remove and anchors from this generator, start the engine, and let me know what kind of magnetic field you have. 

Looks like the kind of magnetic field you have would be of the hillbilly variety. I think you might be able to run the heater for a moonshine still with that thing, but not generate an earth encompassing magnetic field. But fire her up and let us know how your compass works nearby.

Speaking of compasses, what maps do you use with your compass?

I am amazed. Points of a hillbilly generator destroys the Globe Earth magnetic field and Stash is at a loss for words and yields with ridicule hoping the revealed truth just melts away.

No, I'm just guessing that the hillbilly genny you keep posting is what your backwoods education thinks is causing the magnetic field on your flat earth.

I think a magnatic compass would work fine on FE or RE, maybe even bi-polar. Think of setting a phonograph record with a rod magnet poking through the hole. Magnetic compass does not prove FE/RE.

There are two questions above that do matter. One is how does a gyrocompass work on FE, a question I have asked with zero FE answers.

The other is the question of what map you will use your FE compass with.

Apparently you missed the questions, I am reminding you and looking forward to the gyrocompass explanation and the flat map. You wouldn't igmnore these questions because they have no good answer on FE, would you?

The magnetic field has failed the Globe Community.

Nope! The Globe has a very well mapped magnetic field, thank you. It looks roughly like this:

And there are maps available showing the magnetic declination, see Find the magnetic declination at your location.
Here are the results for Brisbane, near here:


Now you show me how you find the magnetic declination on your flat earth.

How can they navagate without one?

Before GNS Systems I used the same magnetic compass I showed in an earlier post.

National Geographic reports that the temperature of the Earth’s outer core is estimated to be between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

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Had you looked a bit further you might have found this!

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[bSEG Wiki: ]Layers of the Earth[/b][/url]
Outer Core
The outer core is composed mostly of iron and nickel, with these metals found in liquid form. The outer core reaches between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit (4,000 and 5,000 degrees Celsius) and is estimated to be 1,430 miles (2,300 km) thick. It is the movement of the liquid within the outer core that generates Earth’s magnetic field.

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field. And don't let it get too hot or it will fail you!

Why is there a problem? The temperature gradients in the molten part of the core cause convection currents in the molten nickel-iron.
Then the earth's rotation results in the Coriolis effect to cause the moving conductors resulting in circulating current generating the magnetic field, similar to a self-excited dynamo.

You might learn more from What creates Earth's magnetic field? The Earth's core works like a giant bicycle dynamo in reverse.

Now, Mr Plat Terra, what is the cause of the magnetic field on your flat earth? Remember that you must explain those"wandering magnetic poles".

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Quote from: Plat Terra on August 24, 2019, 04:23:20 PM

There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory other than claiming there is.

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If "There is no magnetic field in the Globe theory" please explain why the red end of my compass needle insists on pointing close to 11° east of true north.

The compass pointing north is not evidence of your Globe theory.  How could it be?  In your theory, why would it?

What maps do you use with your compass?

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field.

So, what anchors are used to hold sphere Earth in place while sphere Earth’s flowing liquid metal in the outer core of the planet generates electric currents for a magnetic field?

What maps do you use with your compass again?

The magnetic field has failed the Globe Community. How can they navagate without one?

National Geographic reports that the temperature of the Earth’s outer core is estimated to be between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field. And don't let it get too hot or it will fail you!

so says Plat Terra who's already proven to be ignorant on every other subject he brought up.

Remove anchors from this generator, start the engine, and let me know what kind of magnetic field you have. 

comparing a small combustion engine to the core of a planet. You're just trolling, right? You're just here to provide humor?

What needs to be anchored to what and why?

Why do hills need to be flat on sphere but rolling on a flat plane?

Plat, have you discussed the compass issue with your friends? What did they think, what were their thoughts?

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 25, 2019, 11:55:12 AM

The magnetic field has failed the Globe Community.

Nope! The Globe has a very well mapped magnetic field, thank you. It looks roughly like this:

And there are maps available showing the magnetic declination, see Find the magnetic declination at your location.
Here are the results for Brisbane, near here:


Now you show me how you find the magnetic declination on your flat earth.

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How can they navagate without one?

Before GNS Systems I used the same magnetic compass I showed in an earlier post.

Quote from: Plat Terra

National Geographic reports that the temperature of the Earth’s outer core is estimated to be between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

Quote from: Plat Terra

Had you looked a bit further you might have found this!

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[bSEG Wiki: ]Layers of the Earth[/b][/url]
Outer Core
The outer core is composed mostly of iron and nickel, with these metals found in liquid form. The outer core reaches between 7,200 and 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit (4,000 and 5,000 degrees Celsius) and is estimated to be 1,430 miles (2,300 km) thick. It is the movement of the liquid within the outer core that generates Earth’s magnetic field.

You need to anchor the housing of a generator to achieve RPM needed to generate a magnetic field. And don't let it get too hot or it will fail you!

Why is there a problem? The temperature gradients in the molten part of the core cause convection currents in the molten nickel-iron.
Then the earth's rotation results in the Coriolis effect to cause the moving conductors resulting in circulating current generating the magnetic field, similar to a self-excited dynamo.

You might learn more from What creates Earth's magnetic field? The Earth's core works like a giant bicycle dynamo in reverse.

Now, Mr Plat Terra, what is the cause of the magnetic field on your flat earth? Remember that you must explain those"wandering magnetic poles".

The dynamo has to be anchored and your outer core is too hot to create a magneting field. You're theory is toast.

Why is it too hot?

Friction, most likely!

Why does it have to be anchored?

Yes its too hot and it has to be achored or whatever. My nephew's girlfriend best friend's cousin saw it on youtube so it must be true. I cant give any more details because its secret knowdlege and globers wouldnt understand it.

BTW, you would have to be a genius to create a magnetic field with just one rotation per day.  That idea should be patentable if you could prove it.

BTW, you would have to be a genius to create a magnetic field with just one rotation per day.  That idea should be patentable if you could prove it.

But isn't the fake ball whirling at 1000 mph careening through space at impossible speeds??

What is a day?