S-400, Russia, Turkey and USA

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S-400, Russia, Turkey and USA
« on: August 27, 2019, 07:46:13 AM »
As you all probably already know, United Sates denounced Turkey for buying Russian's S-400 missile/radar system. This system has a range of about 400 kilometers on the global earth. The question is, how much range would this system have on the flat earth?

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Re: S-400, Russia, Turkey and USA
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2019, 11:14:55 PM »
7,659,388.90 miles. (+/- 78%)

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Re: S-400, Russia, Turkey and USA
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2019, 12:04:42 AM »
The agenda here is su35 or su57 which we want to buy.

USA gave  weapons to pkk terror organization free of charge. we wanted to get the patriot by paying money, but they didn't sell it to us. we also got the s400 by paying. trump said that obama was wrong. Trump now, it did not appeal the decisionof congress and pulled the turkey out of the F35 program. and even we were paid the cost of f35 too. Now we are negotiating to get su35 or su57 from Russia. Soon trump will say "Let's sell you the F35". No, you're wrong again. So, Mr. Trump, how are you different from Obama?
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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2019, 12:12:06 AM »
The agenda here is su35 or su57 which we want to buy.

USA gave  weapons to pkk terror organization free of charge. we wanted to get the patriot by paying money, but they didn't sell it to us. we also got the s400 by paying. trump said that obama was wrong. Trump now, it did not appeal the decisionof congress and pulled the turkey out of the F35 program. and even we were paid the cost of f35 too. Now we are negotiating to get su35 or su57 from Russia. Soon trump will say "Let's sell you the F35". No, you're wrong again. So, Mr. Trump, how are you different from Obama?

About that terror organization. The reason why USA might be mad at Turkey is because if the ISIS or whatever name they go by now were to get their hands on the S-400 system then the entire truth of how the earth is shaped could spread around the world. See, if the S-400 system can detect airplanes as far as 1,000 miles away then that means the earth is flat.
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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2019, 12:22:43 AM »
The agenda here is su35 or su57 which we want to buy.

USA gave  weapons to pkk terror organization free of charge. we wanted to get the patriot by paying money, but they didn't sell it to us. we also got the s400 by paying. trump said that obama was wrong. Trump now, it did not appeal the decisionof congress and pulled the turkey out of the F35 program. and even we were paid the cost of f35 too. Now we are negotiating to get su35 or su57 from Russia. Soon trump will say "Let's sell you the F35". No, you're wrong again. So, Mr. Trump, how are you different from Obama?

About that terror organization. The reason why USA might be mad at Turkey is because if the ISIS or whatever name they go by now were to get their hands on the S-400 system then the entire truth of how the earth is shaped could spread around the world. See, if the S-400 system can detect airplanes as far as 1,000 miles away then that means the earth is flat.

1.000 kms (not 1000 miles) affective distance is enough to proving flat earth according to my calculations. After 1000 kms, radar can see objects over 40kms highness, can not see objects below 40kms. But affective altitude of Russian systems are about 30kms highness at most.

So Russia, the accomplice of the US in International space station hoax, does not have the same sensitivities and concerns as the United States has about the acquisition of this critical information.
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2019, 12:30:20 AM »
The agenda here is su35 or su57 which we want to buy.

USA gave  weapons to pkk terror organization free of charge. we wanted to get the patriot by paying money, but they didn't sell it to us. we also got the s400 by paying. trump said that obama was wrong. Trump now, it did not appeal the decisionof congress and pulled the turkey out of the F35 program. and even we were paid the cost of f35 too. Now we are negotiating to get su35 or su57 from Russia. Soon trump will say "Let's sell you the F35". No, you're wrong again. So, Mr. Trump, how are you different from Obama?

Build your own weapons.




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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2019, 12:38:16 AM »
The agenda here is su35 or su57 which we want to buy.

USA gave  weapons to pkk terror organization free of charge. we wanted to get the patriot by paying money, but they didn't sell it to us. we also got the s400 by paying. trump said that obama was wrong. Trump now, it did not appeal the decisionof congress and pulled the turkey out of the F35 program. and even we were paid the cost of f35 too. Now we are negotiating to get su35 or su57 from Russia. Soon trump will say "Let's sell you the F35". No, you're wrong again. So, Mr. Trump, how are you different from Obama?

Build your own weapons.

Buying it from Russia or China is cheaper. USA does not allow us build our own weapon. We should get rid of NATO before do it. It is not as easy as you saying it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2019, 01:12:26 AM »

USA does not allow us build our own weapon.

Your country accepts CASH MONEY to agree to terms.
Don't like it? STOP CASHING THE FUCKING CHECKS.

Your country is not being forced to be subjugated.
Pay your own rent.

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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2019, 01:30:14 AM »

USA does not allow us build our own weapon.

Your country accepts CASH MONEY to agree to terms.
Don't like it? STOP CASHING THE FUCKING CHECKS.

Your country is not being forced to be subjugated.
Pay your own rent.

money doesn't matter. There is no value for money. capitalism is a completely wrong system and I have the technical knowledge to destroy it whenever I want. accepting the money of a country is the same as giving the money equal to the money you use in your country. in other words, when a country receives money from another, it is actually lending to itself. turkey, russia and china are looking for a currency other than dollars to solve this problem. crypto money is also used somewhere for this purpose. I prepared a project to overthrow capitalism, but I haven't published it yet. I actually published it, then I gave up. Stop provoking me about cash systems.
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Re: S-400, Russia, Turkey and USA
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2019, 02:21:48 AM »

USA does not allow us build our own weapon.

Your country accepts CASH MONEY to agree to terms.
Don't like it? STOP CASHING THE FUCKING CHECKS.

Your country is not being forced to be subjugated.
Pay your own rent.

money doesn't matter. There is no value for money. capitalism is a completely wrong system and I have the technical knowledge to destroy it whenever I want. accepting the money of a country is the same as giving the money equal to the money you use in your country. in other words, when a country receives money from another, it is actually lending to itself. turkey, russia and china are looking for a currency other than dollars to solve this problem. crypto money is also used somewhere for this purpose. I prepared a project to overthrow capitalism, but I haven't published it yet. I actually published it, then I gave up. Stop provoking me about cash systems.





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I prepared a project to overthrow capitalism, but I haven't published it yet. I actually published it,

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Re: S-400, Russia, Turkey and USA
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2019, 04:51:47 AM »

USA does not allow us build our own weapon.

Your country accepts CASH MONEY to agree to terms.
Don't like it? STOP CASHING THE FUCKING CHECKS.

Your country is not being forced to be subjugated.
Pay your own rent.

money doesn't matter. There is no value for money. capitalism is a completely wrong system and I have the technical knowledge to destroy it whenever I want. accepting the money of a country is the same as giving the money equal to the money you use in your country. in other words, when a country receives money from another, it is actually lending to itself. turkey, russia and china are looking for a currency other than dollars to solve this problem. crypto money is also used somewhere for this purpose. I prepared a project to overthrow capitalism, but I haven't published it yet. I actually published it, then I gave up. Stop provoking me about cash systems.

Double You Oh Double You  (WOW)  !!!!!    :o

I prepared a project to overthrow capitalism, but I haven't published it yet. I actually published it,

idiot

Publishing and taking it back includes both meanings published and not published. And I've explained it by this way. Your being retard isn't my problem. There is nothing wrong here.
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Re: S-400, Russia, Turkey and USA
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2019, 07:28:33 AM »
I don't know about the s-400, but Russians military experts are now claiming that earth's curvature is hiding Israeli aircraft from the S-300 air defense systems used in Syria.

It looks like war equipment  has no  understanding for flat earth.
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2019, 09:12:32 AM »
capitalism is a completely wrong system and I have the technical knowledge to destroy it whenever I want. [...] I prepared a project to overthrow capitalism, but I haven't published it yet.

Please elaborate.  Please.

Alternatively:
1) Short the market, then
2) Destroy the market, and finally
3) Use funds from short to reveal the truth about flat earth.

Please.


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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2019, 09:18:11 AM »
capitalism is a completely wrong system and I have the technical knowledge to destroy it whenever I want. [...] I prepared a project to overthrow capitalism, but I haven't published it yet.

Please elaborate.  Please.

Alternatively:
1) Short the market, then
2) Destroy the market, and finally
3) Use funds from short to reveal the truth about flat earth.

Please.

I've made it detailed here:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66236.msg2198767#new

Actually I was doing it in past year, I've suggested a flat city project. Actually its hidden aim was approve this anti capitalist project. But I did not take enough support. Actually, I did not take any support. Anyways. Now I have some projects may be useful, at least in my mind.

I've preferred to teach this system to everybody. This sounds like simple. Yes, simple but affective. Now the countries will be destroy systems of each other, we no more need to destroy them.
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Re: S-400, Russia, Turkey and USA
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2019, 09:22:15 AM »
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66236.msg2198767#new

"capitalist system is based on money. this money must have an equivalent, [...] This equivalent may be immovable or gold or other moneys."

oh dear
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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2019, 05:22:26 PM »
Your soul is empty.
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Re: S-400, Russia, Turkey and USA
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2019, 06:35:43 PM »

USA does not allow us build our own weapon.

Your country accepts CASH MONEY to agree to terms.
Don't like it? STOP CASHING THE FUCKING CHECKS.

Your country is not being forced to be subjugated.
Pay your own rent.

money doesn't matter. There is no value for money. capitalism is a completely wrong system and I have the technical knowledge to destroy it whenever I want.
What a joke!
You don't have the technical knowledge to know the true shape of the earth, the distance to the moon or to the sun.

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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2019, 10:34:27 PM »
To claim one can single-handedly destroy capitalism at their whim is quite rich. Even in this environment.

Wise, why don稚 you pull the trigger? If you have the means to crush the snake?

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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2019, 12:10:41 AM »
Why would I get risk burning my hand when I have tong? I explained it. and from now on, some of the smaller countries will do so. countries that have no money will produce money and try it. There will be chaos. in this way, the flat world community will have many good opportunities to gain its freedom. truth will come out of chaos. I don't want to be in this because it's safer to stay here, behind the curtain. I had something to say, I said, and it's over. it's not my business anymore. No need to become a target by system defenders. I do it, but my flat city project needs to be approved by management. then I can achieve this by staying safe in our own city. otherwise I can't, because I don't really trust anyone other than real flat earthers. Unfortunately, our controlled opposition management team did not allow my project, they have just said "go wise, get do it, we are watching you". It was literally not the support I expected.

I trust only a few of flat earthers. not puppets such as john davis and eric dubay.
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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2019, 05:20:46 AM »
Bro, you know that modern economic systems are not based on gold, right?  Or any other particular material.  Buying up all the gold in the world will not crash the world economy.  I mean, not to mention that your small country money would not have enough value to do so, but let's take this one problem at a time.

Anyway, I'm glad you feel safe behind a capitalist system.  God knows the alternatives don't retain that feature.
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2019, 06:13:13 AM »
I'm definitely not feeling safe myself behind capitalisy system, but just behind the curtain. I don't believe modern capitalist system, it has been remained from thousands years ago; ps; if history is exist. Hence, it is easy to destroy it. You are far to get me; but even so I'll write here some other methods allow my followers get more knowledge. I am searching for opportunities to publish those thoughts in a conference. Anyways.

INFINITY CONSTRUCTION METHOD

In this method, you make a mortgage on one of the immovables registered in the system and put the mortgage in the safe as money equivalent. you produce as much money as the amount of the mortgage. that is, the equivalent of the money you produce is a money that is present in your safe as a building. with this money you buy, or produce, a new building. you buy or produce the building again mortgage and mortgage document you put in the bank vault. and with this method you can build buildings at any height you want anywhere in the world. countries such as Dubai, Qatar and Hong Kong did not magically prosper. these methods are especially applied in qatar and dubaide. they did not because they were oil-rich, but because they discovered the weaknesses of the system.

from this method you can understand that: Actually, construction of buildings are free. When you build a building, you save it to the treasure. it remains on the treasury's immovable list as long as it is purchased by someone registered in your country, and therefore has the right to generate money equivalent to that building. in other words, the moment a contractor builds a building, he can get the money from the treasury exactly as much as the price of the building.

When banks provide loans, they mortgage the building. and the total value of the building from the central bank. because the central bank receives the right to print money as much as the building registered in the system. On the one hand, the bank receives the building money from the central bank for mortgage and on the other hand receives money from the customer. When the mortgage expires, the money has been used sufficiently and the building has begun to age, which will reduce the value of the building.

therefore, as long as the value of the mortgage in the central bank decreases, it receives it back from the bank. and during this time the customer continues to pay his money. When the customer finishes paying his money to the bank, the bank completes his payment to the central bank. the only bank making a profit here is the central bank. as long as the building is not sold to foreigners, or within the country, it earns as much as its current value.

This is the logic of the mortgage system. The only winner of the mortgage system is the central bank.

a real government does not receive interest from home citizens for a home loan, nor does it even take back the entire loan. half or less of it is enough.

for example;

A newly built house, worth $ 1,000,000. You used a $ 1,000,000 loan from the bank and your home was mortgaged. The bank receives the money from central bank you will pay to the seller from in return for the mortgage made and pays to the seller. the money spent by the bank is zero. It has took the money from central bank and payed the seller. The central bank produces and puts on the market $ 1,000,000 for the $ 1,000,000 mortgage that the bank has given to itself, and this is the money it gives to the bank. Central bank has no loss or earnings from this business. It took a paper has 1.000.000$ and created and payed the bank same cash.

you are the only person who is in loss from the moment you start paying the bank. in other words, even if you do not pay the bank at all, neither the bank from which you borrowed nor the central bank will suffer any damage.

Hence, you do not have to pay anything to bank at all infact.

I think everyone understood the issue.
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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2019, 06:54:29 AM »
No all central banks operate in the same way. I know European central bank best (ECB).

The ECB doesn't just give money away to commercial banks. The ECB lends money to commercial banks and commercial banks have to pay interests and later repay the money. The commercial bank must also provide a collateral to guarantee that the money will be paid back.

The commercial bank then  lends money to its clients at a higher interest rate. In this simplified example the difference in the interest rates would be the bank's profit.

In a mortgage the real state property is typically the guarantee for the loan. If the  borrower fails to pay the loan installments, the bank may execute the guarantee and keep the property, then sell it in order to recover the money. However this is not free of risk for the bank, as the property might lose value.
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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2019, 07:37:53 AM »
In this method, you make a mortgage on one of the immovables registered in the system and put the mortgage in the safe as money equivalent. you produce as much money as the amount of the mortgage. that is, the equivalent of the money you produce is a money that is present in your safe as a building. with this money you buy, or produce, a new building.
"you produce as much money as the amount of the mortgage."
How are you supposed to do that?  And if you can just generate hundreds of thousands of dollars, why bother with the mortgage game?  Just produce billions of dollars and throw your weight around in the system.

And what about interest and taxes and inflation and- ah forget it. one problem at a time. stay focused.
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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2019, 09:09:35 AM »
stay focused
Good luck with that.

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