Atmoplanar lensing

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Atmoplanar lensing
« on: August 21, 2019, 07:50:37 AM »
Hello

It has been brought up that the sun and moon change shape and size due to atmoplanar lensing effects.

So the sun and moon are outside the atmoplane.

Is the atmoplane a hard shelled item or is it a bubble of air boundarying against nothingness?

Thanks

Re: Atmoplanar lensing
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2019, 08:15:13 AM »
Hello

It has been brought up that the sun and moon change shape and size due to atmoplanar lensing effects.

So the sun and moon are outside the atmoplane.

Is the atmoplane a hard shelled item or is it a bubble of air boundarying against nothingness?

Thanks

"Lensing effects" (magnification changes and anamorphic magnification changes) can occur when an object is inside a refractive medium. "So the sun and moon are outside the atmoplane," is not a valid conclusion.

Re: Atmoplanar lensing
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2019, 09:40:54 AM »
Doesnt light refract and change angle when passing through different medium densities?

Yes within the atmoplane, the air can change giving off mirages and such.

But im asking, when we have sun "set/ far", the sun is expected to shrink due to perspective.
But visually it looks the same size.
The reason given was the lensing.
For a consistent shrink-grow, the weather dependent mirages cant factor.
So left with the sun and moon being outside.
No?

And my actual question is -
Then if outside, what is the boundary between outside and air.
Is it hard dome or not?

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Re: Atmoplanar lensing
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2019, 05:21:48 AM »

And my actual question is -
Then if outside, what is the boundary between outside and air.
Is it hard dome or not?

Do you really expect anyone to know something before it has been discovered?

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Re: Atmoplanar lensing
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2019, 06:27:52 AM »
And my actual question is -
Then if outside, what is the boundary between outside and air.
Is it hard dome or not?

After recent studies, we think that it is an ether-derived substance that is not liquid but has a liquid-gase character. Morely gase, but stands together and resists well to objects push it like a liquid. because of the oxygen in the ether, we observe it as blue. You may see the lens effect according to the sun and observer's position, or you may not see it. when the sun and the moon are close to each other, you see them of the same magnitude because they are under the same lens effect. but when they move away, they appear in different sizes. The visible size of the sun and moon changes constantly, but you won't notice it. The lens effect in general makes them look greater when sun set. they also shrink because they are going further . Although both variables are not the same, you may not feel the change in size because they are close to each other and have opposite effects. however, if you are on the route of the sun, you may notice this change more easily.



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Re: Atmoplanar lensing
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2019, 08:40:00 PM »
I think our eyes maybe made to see the sun and moon as a particular size.
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Re: Atmoplanar lensing
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2019, 08:40:29 PM »
To OP: neither 'hard shelled' or 'bubble air'.

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Re: Atmoplanar lensing
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2019, 10:31:24 PM »
To OP: neither 'hard shelled' or 'bubble air'.

The way that can be named, is not the way.

so what then?
continuum transfunctioner?

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Re: Atmoplanar lensing
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2019, 06:11:16 AM »
I think our eyes maybe made to see the sun and moon as a particular size.

Great. We see the properties objects with our brain, not with our eyes. if the sun and moon are defined as the same size in our brain system, we see them constantly in the same size.



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Re: Atmoplanar lensing
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2019, 01:33:36 AM »
Hello

It has been brought up that the sun and moon change shape and size due to atmoplanar lensing effects.

So the sun and moon are outside the atmoplane.

Is the atmoplane a hard shelled item or is it a bubble of air boundarying against nothingness?

Thanks


Non sequitor. You assume facts not in evidence.
The sun and moon may very well be within the "atmoplane", and exhibit observed attributes.

Nice try, sweetie pie.




Re: Atmoplanar lensing
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2019, 04:36:50 AM »
The model was brought up by the fe to explain sunsets and why the sun wouldnt appear smaller as it got farther away.
I didnt assume anything - fe did.