When will RE Community Accept Defeat?

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1350 on: August 29, 2019, 04:08:19 PM »

Why donít you write NASA and ask them why is the form and shape of Earthís circumference never the same in the ISS selfies?  In some photos it continues to warp and never appears to be the same continues curve from one side (from center) to the other and from one picture to the other. And why is Earth larger in some pics than others even though the picture is taken from the same altitude as the ISS?

Ask them why, Earthís shape is never uniform in these photos. Why? These are logical questions the Globe community must address and get an answer from NASA.


So you're completely ignorant of camera lenses too. You would only have a point IF all of those photos were taken with the same lens from the same distance. Since they were not, then you have again failed.

Thanks for the humor!

I have yet to write about all the satellite selfies.
So you admit you have another gish gallop planned? More fails from Plat Terra!

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1351 on: August 29, 2019, 04:08:40 PM »

That's how photography works.

Next.

It's not working well with NASA's pictures.
It works perfectly "well with NASA's pictures"! What isn't working well is what is inside YOU head or the lack of anything inside YOU head!

Go learn something from:
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You're not very good at this are you, Mr Plat Terra?

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1352 on: August 29, 2019, 04:09:35 PM »

so we can add orbital mechanics to the vast list of subjects that Plat is ignorant of. Pic likely taken by another spacecraft before or after docking.

Where is the docking station in relation to the ISS?

Not the same photo, but to get such a shot, you just have to be on your way to the ISS or on your way back from it. Here's the caption for the following similar image:

"The crew of Soyuz MS-08 spacecraft took this image of the International Space Station in October 2018. Russian space agency Roscosmos released the photo to celebrate the space station's 20th anniversary."



Next.

Next?  OK,
Why donít you write NASA and ask them why is the form and shape of Earthís circumference never the same in the ISS selfies?  In some photos it continues to warp and never appears to be the same continues curve from one side (from center) to the other and from one picture to the other. And why is Earth larger in some pics than others even though the picture is taken from the same altitude as the ISS?

Ask them why, Earthís shape is never uniform in these photos. Why? These are logical questions the Globe community must address and get an answer from NASA.



I don't have to ask them they tell us when you look up the details of a given, official image. It comes down to camera and lenses. Quite simple really. For instance, a 43 mm lens on a full frame camera is roughly equivalent to the human eye. Here's a shot from NASA, ISS040-E-068656, captioned:
"(16 July 2014) --- The Orbital Sciencesí Cygnus cargo craft (bottom center) is photographed by an Expedition 40 crew member on the International Space Station during rendezvous and capture operations."

https://www.nasa.gov/content/cygnus-approaches-station-for-robotic-grapple

When you look at the same NASA image on their flicker account you get more camera detail as well as the EXIF file if you want it:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/14493038209/

Notice the 34 mm focal length referenced. That can give you an idea as to how much distortion is in the image, not much in this case.

That's how photography works.

Next.

It's not working well with NASA's pictures.

Ok we'll just add to the list of your ignorance: Photography

You apparently have never used anything other than a phone to take a picture.

Next.

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1353 on: August 29, 2019, 04:24:00 PM »


The following Gleason map will let you know were the Sun is any time of the day.




You should read what is in your images before you post them.

Do you know what a projection is?

It clearly states the Gleason Map is a projection.
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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1354 on: August 29, 2019, 04:31:07 PM »
Ask them why, Earthís shape is never uniform. Why?
We don't have to "Ask them why Earthís shape is never uniform" because the Earthís shape is quite uniform!

Quote from: Plat Terra

All that silly meme proves is your abject ignorance of photography!

The curve of the horizon depends on the field-of-view.
Sometimes might be distorted by the barrel distortion common on very wide-angle lenses or severely distorted by 180į fish-eye lenses!

Read this!
It is about the photographic equipment used on the ISS but since YOU do not publish the SOURCE of YOUR photos YOU can research what cameras and lenses were used!
Quote from: John Aldred
This is the camera gear that NASA use on the International Space Station


Recently, in a Space Station Live stream, American astronaut Jeff Williams received the question again and went into some detail on the equipment they use on the ISS.


Space Station Live: Williams Talks Candidly about Cameras

Known for the high level of detail they can capture, wide dynamic range, and high ISO performance, NASAís weapon of choice today is the Nikon D4, of which the ISS houses several, along with a wide selection of Nikon lenses, including the Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8E ED VR shown in this image.



NASA range of lenses includes everything from super wide angle, to ďseveralĒ of the massive Nikon 800mm f/5.6E FL ED VR, which becomes 1120mm equivalent when used with the Nikon AF-S FX TC-14E III 1.4x Teleconverter.



<< See the rest at the link. >>

So you still have nothing!
And the so-called "RE Community" will NEVER "Accept Defeat" for the obvious and simple reason that the earth really is a rotating Globe, get used to it!

Where YOU like it or not or whether YOU accept it or not the earth rotates, look at a nice sped up image of the earth rotating and the far side of the moon:
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NASA SCIENCE, SOLAR SYSTEM EXPLORATION: Face of Earth

Source: NASA/NOAA
Published: January 30, 2018
Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) satellite's EPIC maintains a constant view of the fully illuminated Earth as it rotates,
providing scientific observations of ozone, vegetation, cloud height and aerosols in the atmosphere.

About twice a year the camera captures the Moon and Earth together as the orbit of DSCOVR crosses the orbital plane of the Moon.

These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT showing the moon moving over the Pacific Ocean near North America.
The North Pole is in the upper left corner of the image. It is in the original orientation as taken by the spacecraft.

            This image from the Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) satellite captured
            a unique view of the Moon as it moved in front of the sunlit side of Earth in 2015.
            It shows a view of the farside of the Moon, which faces the Sun,
            that is never directly visible to us here on Earth.
            I found this perspective profoundly moving and
            only through our satellite views could this have been shared.
                                               - Michael Freilich, Director NASA Earth Science Division
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Have fun! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Rab, thanks for posting another fake time-laps photo from NASA.

The Clouds don't move.

The back side of the moon is dark but should be lit up like a full moon.

The Moon is keeping up with Earth's rotation. This is not possible with the mechanics of your Globe.

 It's all fake, Rab.

This is what a Full Moon looks like and should look the same in NASA'S time-laps, but it doesn't . Why not Rab?
« Last Edit: August 29, 2019, 04:49:20 PM by Plat Terra »
The Globe community is incapable of verifying Earth has the curvature calculated through experiment or claimed by anyone. They can measure a band of helium but they canít actually measure and verify the dictated curvature of any landmass or canal. Why not?

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1355 on: August 29, 2019, 04:52:31 PM »
Rab, thanks for posting another fake time-laps photo from NASA.

The Clouds don't move.

Yes they do. How much do you expect them to move?

The back side of the moon is dark but should be lit up like a full moon.

The backside (to us) is lit up. That's the whole point of the image.

The Moon is keeping up with Earth's rotation. This is not possible with the mechanics of your Globe.

Please explain how it should look with your depth of knowledge regarding globe mechanics.

Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1356 on: August 29, 2019, 05:04:35 PM »
It's all about "Orientation". Face south lean back and look at the Moon and Stars and you can see the same face and the same rotation of the Stars as those in the North.



So why doesn't the moon change size from being over head to lower in the sky on the FE model? Like if you had a man laying between the other two people, should see is at least 20% larger than them.
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Plat Terra

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1357 on: August 29, 2019, 05:23:52 PM »
Rab, thanks for posting another fake time-laps photo from NASA.

The Clouds don't move.

Yes they do. How much do you expect them to move?

The back side of the moon is dark but should be lit up like a full moon.

The backside (to us) is lit up. That's the whole point of the image.

The Moon is keeping up with Earth's rotation. This is not possible with the mechanics of your Globe.

Please explain how it should look with your depth of knowledge regarding globe mechanics.

We will start with this. Which Moon is real? You can ignore my thoughts.

Fake Moon with fake moon light.


Real Moon with real moon light.

« Last Edit: August 29, 2019, 05:31:53 PM by Plat Terra »
The Globe community is incapable of verifying Earth has the curvature calculated through experiment or claimed by anyone. They can measure a band of helium but they canít actually measure and verify the dictated curvature of any landmass or canal. Why not?

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Plat Terra

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1358 on: August 29, 2019, 05:31:13 PM »
It's all about "Orientation". Face south lean back and look at the Moon and Stars and you can see the same face and the same rotation of the Stars as those in the North.



So why doesn't the moon change size from being over head to lower in the sky on the FE model? Like if you had a man laying between the other two people, should see is at least 20% larger than them.

The moon applies the same as with the Sun.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82582.msg2194479#msg2194479
The Globe community is incapable of verifying Earth has the curvature calculated through experiment or claimed by anyone. They can measure a band of helium but they canít actually measure and verify the dictated curvature of any landmass or canal. Why not?

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1359 on: August 29, 2019, 05:41:07 PM »
We will start with this. Which Moon is real? You can ignore my thoughts.

Fake Moon with fake moon light.
I suppose that it's no surprise that you don't recognize the far side of the moon because it's never seen from the earth.
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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1360 on: August 29, 2019, 05:49:16 PM »
It's all about "Orientation". Face south lean back and look at the Moon and Stars and you can see the same face and the same rotation of the Stars as those in the North.



So why doesn't the moon change size from being over head to lower in the sky on the FE model? Like if you had a man laying between the other two people, should see is at least 20% larger than them.

The moon applies the same as with the Sun.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82582.msg2194479#msg2194479

Why would someone south of the equator decide to lie on their back, facing away, and look at the moon upside down?

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1361 on: August 29, 2019, 05:56:02 PM »
Can anyone here tell me what else is wrong with this NASA official imagery Rab posted?  It's more than just a fake moon, clouds that donít move and the speed of the Moon in relation to Earthís rotation.

What more is there?  Have a close look.

These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT showing the moon moving over the Pacific Ocean near North America.

NASA SCIENCE, SOLAR SYSTEM EXPLORATION: Face of Earth

Source: NASA/NOAA
Published: January 30, 2018
Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) satellite's EPIC maintains a constant view of the fully illuminated Earth as it rotates,
providing scientific observations of ozone, vegetation, cloud height and aerosols in the atmosphere.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2019, 06:08:47 PM by Plat Terra »
The Globe community is incapable of verifying Earth has the curvature calculated through experiment or claimed by anyone. They can measure a band of helium but they canít actually measure and verify the dictated curvature of any landmass or canal. Why not?

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1362 on: August 29, 2019, 05:59:34 PM »
Rab, thanks for posting another fake time-laps photo from NASA.

The Clouds don't move.

Yes they do. How much do you expect them to move?

The back side of the moon is dark but should be lit up like a full moon.

The backside (to us) is lit up. That's the whole point of the image.

The Moon is keeping up with Earth's rotation. This is not possible with the mechanics of your Globe.

Please explain how it should look with your depth of knowledge regarding globe mechanics.

We will start with this. Which Moon is real? You can ignore my thoughts.

Fake Moon with fake moon light.


Real Moon with real moon light.



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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1363 on: August 29, 2019, 07:08:41 PM »

We will start with this. Which Moon is real? You can ignore my thoughts.

Fake Moon with fake moon light.


Real Moon with real moon light.

the first is as exposed with the much brighter Earth. The second appears brighter because it is from our night sky. More ignorance about photography from Plat.

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1364 on: August 29, 2019, 07:12:59 PM »
Can anyone here tell me what else is wrong with this NASA official imagery Rab posted?  It's more than just a fake moon, clouds that donít move and the speed of the Moon in relation to Earthís rotation.

What more is there?  Have a close look.

These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT showing the moon moving over the Pacific Ocean near North America.

NASA SCIENCE, SOLAR SYSTEM EXPLORATION: Face of Earth

Source: NASA/NOAA
Published: January 30, 2018
Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) satellite's EPIC maintains a constant view of the fully illuminated Earth as it rotates,
providing scientific observations of ozone, vegetation, cloud height and aerosols in the atmosphere.
the clouds do move. Not much as they are large systems and the entire time lapse is only about 5 hours IIRC correctly but there are changes.
the Moon looks correct as it is the far side of the Moon and appears darker as it is exposed with the much brighter Earth.
The movement is correct given the distance and zoom level. The Earth rotates as it should for the approximately 5 hours of the time lapse. The Moon moves as much as it should in its orbit for the same amount of time. You are forgetting the far larger orbit of the Moon likely because of the zoom from the camera.
The relative sizes are correct given the distance and zoom level.

Do you need a reminder that different lenses can make objects appear different relative to each other?
https://i.imgur.com/8Tg5bP3.gifv


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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1365 on: August 29, 2019, 07:28:08 PM »

Rab, thanks for posting another fake time-laps photo from NASA.

The Clouds don't move.
Do the sums - if you are able ;D!

How much should the clouds move in the hour between each frame? Maybe all of 20 km ;D ;D?
How far is is 20 km one that video? Maybe ONE PIXEL! Get real ::)!

Quote from: Plat Terra
The back side of the moon is dark but should be lit up like a full moon.

It is lit up exactly as it would be on a full moon! Do the sums - if you are able ;D!

From this photo:

epic_1b_20160705052503_01
The average brightness of the earth (on a scale of 0 to 255) is about 106 and the moon is about 45.
So the earth is about 2.4 times as bright as the moon
The quoted albedo's for the earth and moon are 30% and 12% so the earth's reflectivity is about 2.5 times that of the moon.

That's close enough for me!

Quote from: Plat Terra
The Moon is keeping up with Earth's rotation. This is not possible with the mechanics of your Globe.
And why shouldn't the moon move faster in it's orbit than the surface of the earth moves?  Do the sums - if you are able ;D!

The earth's surface moves its circumference in 24 hours and 40,075 km in 24 hours or 464 metres per second.
The moon moves the circumference of its orbit in 29.53 days and 2 x π x 384,400 km in 29.53 x 24 hours is 947 metres per second.

There is a little more to it than that because the moon is closer to the camera - I'll let you work that out!

So, of course, the moon "The Moon is" more that "keeping up with Earth's rotation" only someone ignorant of "the mechanics of your Globe" would claim otherwise.

Quote from: Plat Terra
It'a all fake, Rab.

See, Mr Plat Terra, the only fake here is YOU!


Quote from: Plat Terra
Full Moon

You are simply showing you total utter ignorance over and over in EVERY post!
In the EPIC photo, the far-side of the moon is photographed against the far brighter fully lit earth! The comparative brightness is quite correct.
At night you see the full near-side of the full moon against the night sky - but you can't understand such simple logic.

And obviously Cannot do the sums ;D!

Take some sound advice! Quit now before you make a far bigger fool of yourself!

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1366 on: August 29, 2019, 07:30:37 PM »
Can anyone here tell me what else is wrong with this NASA official imagery Rab posted? 

The only thing wrong with this entire thread is your inability to acknowledge your own ignorance.
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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1367 on: August 29, 2019, 07:45:28 PM »
Can anyone here tell me what else is wrong with this NASA official imagery Rab posted? 

The only thing wrong with this entire thread is your inability to acknowledge your own ignorance.
Is it time to say, "Let me counts the ways . . . . " I'll leave the rest out ::)!

When is Plat Terra going to realise that he's making flat-earthers look totally ignorant of how the Globe works.

Maybe he's a NASA shill (undercover agent) ;D?

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1368 on: August 29, 2019, 08:32:50 PM »
Can anyone here tell me what else is wrong with this NASA official imagery Rab posted?  It's more than just a fake moon, clouds that donít move and the speed of the Moon in relation to Earthís rotation.

What more is there?  Have a close look.

These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT showing the moon moving over the Pacific Ocean near North America.

NASA SCIENCE, SOLAR SYSTEM EXPLORATION: Face of Earth

Source: NASA/NOAA
Published: January 30, 2018
Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) satellite's EPIC maintains a constant view of the fully illuminated Earth as it rotates,
providing scientific observations of ozone, vegetation, cloud height and aerosols in the atmosphere.
the clouds do move. Not much as they are large systems and the entire time lapse is only about 5 hours IIRC correctly but there are changes.
the Moon looks correct as it is the far side of the Moon and appears darker as it is exposed with the much brighter Earth.
The movement is correct given the distance and zoom level. The Earth rotates as it should for the approximately 5 hours of the time lapse. The Moon moves as much as it should in its orbit for the same amount of time. You are forgetting the far larger orbit of the Moon likely because of the zoom from the camera.
The relative sizes are correct given the distance and zoom level.

Do you need a reminder that different lenses can make objects appear different relative to each other?
https://i.imgur.com/8Tg5bP3.gifv

Please continue.....

These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT showing the moon moving over the Pacific Ocean near North America.
The Globe community is incapable of verifying Earth has the curvature calculated through experiment or claimed by anyone. They can measure a band of helium but they canít actually measure and verify the dictated curvature of any landmass or canal. Why not?

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1369 on: August 29, 2019, 08:33:55 PM »
Can anyone here tell me what else is wrong with this NASA official imagery Rab posted? 

The only thing wrong with this entire thread is your inability to acknowledge your own ignorance.
Is it time to say, "Let me counts the ways . . . . " I'll leave the rest out ::)!

When is Plat Terra going to realise that he's making flat-earthers look totally ignorant of how the Globe works.

Maybe he's a NASA shill (undercover agent) ;D?

You don't know the date of the video, right? NASA does not want you to know, right? And we know why!
« Last Edit: August 29, 2019, 08:43:56 PM by Plat Terra »
The Globe community is incapable of verifying Earth has the curvature calculated through experiment or claimed by anyone. They can measure a band of helium but they canít actually measure and verify the dictated curvature of any landmass or canal. Why not?

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1370 on: August 29, 2019, 08:34:38 PM »
Can anyone here tell me what else is wrong with this NASA official imagery Rab posted? 

The only thing wrong with this entire thread is your inability to acknowledge your own ignorance.
Is it time to say, "Let me counts the ways . . . . " I'll leave the rest out ::)!

When is Plat Terra going to realise that he's making flat-earthers look totally ignorant of how the Globe works.

Maybe he's a NASA shill (undercover agent) ;D?

You don't know the date of the video, right?

You do understand the phases of the moon, right?
Quote from: Carl Sagan
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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1371 on: August 29, 2019, 08:46:34 PM »
Can anyone here tell me what else is wrong with this NASA official imagery Rab posted? 

The only thing wrong with this entire thread is your inability to acknowledge your own ignorance.
Is it time to say, "Let me counts the ways . . . . " I'll leave the rest out ::)!

When is Plat Terra going to realise that he's making flat-earthers look totally ignorant of how the Globe works.

Maybe he's a NASA shill (undercover agent) ;D?

You don't know the date of the video, right?

You do understand the phases of the moon, right?

I know how they would work on a Globe Earth better than you! What do you think got me wondering "Something is not right"? It began many years ago and long before I believed in a Plane Earth.
The Globe community is incapable of verifying Earth has the curvature calculated through experiment or claimed by anyone. They can measure a band of helium but they canít actually measure and verify the dictated curvature of any landmass or canal. Why not?

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1372 on: August 29, 2019, 09:02:38 PM »
I know how they would work on a Globe Earth better than you! What do you think got me wondering "Something is not right"? It began many years ago and long before I believed in a Plane Earth.

Do you really.  Plat Terra, you are either a troll (which would be funny, I would appreciate the humor in that) or tragically dense.  Through the course of this thread the only thing you've done consistently is validate how fractured this worldview is.  Everyone, minus you, that has responded to your imbecilic posts has done so with the effort to educate, point out logical inconsistencies, and provide supports that indicate a world that is, at the very least, not flat. 

You've responded with nonsensical retorts that have me wondering if you aren't some comical chatbot that James Davis coded for entertainment.  You literally asked me is the Southern Cross to the south, and is it visible to people looking south.  I can't even comprehend what educational deficit exists inbetween your ears. 
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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1373 on: August 29, 2019, 09:58:01 PM »
I know how they would work on a Globe Earth better than you! What do you think got me wondering "Something is not right"? It began many years ago and long before I believed in a Plane Earth.

 You literally asked me is the Southern Cross to the south, and is it visible to people looking south. 

Quote me and don't leave out any context.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2019, 10:01:05 PM by Plat Terra »
The Globe community is incapable of verifying Earth has the curvature calculated through experiment or claimed by anyone. They can measure a band of helium but they canít actually measure and verify the dictated curvature of any landmass or canal. Why not?

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1374 on: August 29, 2019, 10:01:16 PM »

Is it time to say, "Let me counts the ways . . . . " I'll leave the rest out ::)!

When is Plat Terra going to realise that he's making flat-earthers look totally ignorant of how the Globe works.

Maybe he's a NASA shill (undercover agent) ;D?

You don't know the date of the video, right? NASA does not want you to know, right? And we know why!
You mean that, YOU don't know the date of the video, right?  If NASA does not want us to know why would they tell us?
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NASA Goddard, Aug. 6, 2015, From a Million Miles Away, NASA Camera Shows Moon Crossing Face of Earth
A NASA camera aboard the Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) satellite captured a unique view of the moon as it moved in front of the sunlit side of Earth last month. The series of test images shows the fully illuminated ďdark sideĒ of the moon that is never visible from Earth.

The images were captured by NASAís Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera (EPIC), a four megapixel CCD camera and telescope on the DSCOVR satellite orbiting 1 million miles from Earth. From its position between the sun and Earth, DSCOVR conducts its primary mission of real-time solar wind monitoring for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).


This animation features actual satellite images of the far side of the moon, illuminated by the sun,
as it crosses between the DSCOVR spacecraft's Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera (EPIC)
and telescope, and the Earth - one million miles away.
Credits: NASA/NOAA
Watch on YouTube
Download as MOV video
Download additional video formats from NASA Goddard's Scientific Visualization Studio

EPIC maintains a constant view of the fully illuminated Earth as it rotates, providing scientific observations of ozone, vegetation, cloud height and aerosols in the atmosphere. Once EPIC begins regular observations next month, the camera will provide a series of Earth images allowing study of daily variations over the entire globe. About twice a year the camera will capture the moon and Earth together as the orbit of DSCOVR crosses the orbital plane of the moon.

These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT on July 16, showing the moon moving over the Pacific Ocean near North America. The North Pole is in the upper left corner of the image. It is in the original orientation as taken by the spacecraft.
The individual photos of another lunar transit are in DSCOVR: EPIC, GALLERY: LUNAR TRANSIT 2016 Here's a nice sharp one just for you!


Now, how about you explain just what problems there are with these photos?

Have fun!

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kopfverderber

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1375 on: August 29, 2019, 10:09:16 PM »
Can anyone here tell me what else is wrong with this NASA official imagery Rab posted? 

The only thing wrong with this entire thread is your inability to acknowledge your own ignorance.
Is it time to say, "Let me counts the ways . . . . " I'll leave the rest out ::)!

When is Plat Terra going to realise that he's making flat-earthers look totally ignorant of how the Globe works.

Maybe he's a NASA shill (undercover agent) ;D?

You don't know the date of the video, right?

You do understand the phases of the moon, right?

I know how they would work on a Globe Earth better than you! What do you think got me wondering "Something is not right"? It began many years ago and long before I believed in a Plane Earth.

Good job at demonstrating the logical fallacy "argument of incredulity":

Concluding that because you can't or refuse to believe something, it must not be true, improbable, or the argument must be flawed. This is a specific form of the argument from ignorance.

You havent shown anything wrong with the space photos or videos, just your own ignorance. You have even been caught using falsified pictures.

Jumping to some more NASA pictures is just your way avoid discussing the things that FE cant explain, such simple stuff as sunset, sunrise, moon phases and the night sky in the south, not to mention the utter lack of evidence for an 100.000 km plus long antarctic wall and all your other absurd claims.
You must gather your party before venturing forth

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Plat Terra

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1376 on: August 29, 2019, 10:41:25 PM »

Is it time to say, "Let me counts the ways . . . . " I'll leave the rest out ::)!

When is Plat Terra going to realise that he's making flat-earthers look totally ignorant of how the Globe works.

Maybe he's a NASA shill (undercover agent) ;D?

You don't know the date of the video, right? NASA does not want you to know, right? And we know why!
You mean that, YOU don't know the date of the video, right?  If NASA does not want us to know why would they tell us?
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NASA Goddard, Aug. 6, 2015, From a Million Miles Away, NASA Camera Shows Moon Crossing Face of Earth
A NASA camera aboard the Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) satellite captured a unique view of the moon as it moved in front of the sunlit side of Earth last month. The series of test images shows the fully illuminated ďdark sideĒ of the moon that is never visible from Earth.

The images were captured by NASAís Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera (EPIC), a four megapixel CCD camera and telescope on the DSCOVR satellite orbiting 1 million miles from Earth. From its position between the sun and Earth, DSCOVR conducts its primary mission of real-time solar wind monitoring for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).


This animation features actual satellite images of the far side of the moon, illuminated by the sun,
as it crosses between the DSCOVR spacecraft's Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera (EPIC)
and telescope, and the Earth - one million miles away.
Credits: NASA/NOAA
Watch on YouTube
Download as MOV video
Download additional video formats from NASA Goddard's Scientific Visualization Studio

EPIC maintains a constant view of the fully illuminated Earth as it rotates, providing scientific observations of ozone, vegetation, cloud height and aerosols in the atmosphere. Once EPIC begins regular observations next month, the camera will provide a series of Earth images allowing study of daily variations over the entire globe. About twice a year the camera will capture the moon and Earth together as the orbit of DSCOVR crosses the orbital plane of the moon.

These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT on July 16, showing the moon moving over the Pacific Ocean near North America. The North Pole is in the upper left corner of the image. It is in the original orientation as taken by the spacecraft.
The individual photos of another lunar transit are in DSCOVR: EPIC, GALLERY: LUNAR TRANSIT 2016 Here's a nice sharp one just for you!


Now, how about you explain just what problems there are with these photos?

Have fun!

Thank you. I did not know. It was not in the first link you posted. Well, July 16. Imagine that. That's even a greater problem for NASA.

Are you sure you would not want to apologize for posting such a fake video first or continue as if it were real?

And are you willing to be questioned in detail about the video? After all you posted it as if was truth.
The Globe community is incapable of verifying Earth has the curvature calculated through experiment or claimed by anyone. They can measure a band of helium but they canít actually measure and verify the dictated curvature of any landmass or canal. Why not?

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rabinoz

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1377 on: August 29, 2019, 11:53:42 PM »

Thank you. I did not know. It was not in the first link you posted. Well, July 16. Imagine that. That's even a greater problem for NASA.
And why might that be a problem for NASA? Nothing you've posted so far casts the slightest doubt on anything NASA's done!

Quote from: Plat Terra
Are you sure you would not want to apologize for posting such a fake video first or continue as if it were real?
Why would I want to apologise?

I've never knowingly posted a fake photo or video without explaining why I did and it's source if possible.
It's not a "video" as such but a "motion gif" animation made from photos taken an hour apart by the EPICamera on the DSCOVR satellite

And you've never apologised for the dozens of deceptive and simply incorrect memes ant posts you have made even after the facts were pointed out.

For instance the meme in this post is totally incorrect and borders on outright lying on you part,  Flat Earth Society Memes ę Reply #283 Ľ.
Enough was posted in the following for you to see your mistake, Flat Earth Society Memes ę Reply #284 Ľ.
But I've seen no retraction nor apology!

Again you made these quite incorrect claims:
The Clouds don't move.

The back side of the moon is dark but should be lit up like a full moon.

The Moon is keeping up with Earth's rotation. This is not possible with the mechanics of your Globe.
I answered each of your claims quite carefully in this post, When will RE Community Accept Defeat? ę Reply #1365 on: Today at 12:28:08 PM Ľ.

I've seen no apology for your ludicrous ignorant claims,  not even a sensible reply!

Give me one good reason why I should apologise to YOU!

You're all bluster with nothing to back it up!

Quote from: Plat Terra
And are you willing to be questioned in detail about the video? After all you posted it as if was truth.
I posted an animation of known provenance,  NASA! I'll answer what I can but I didn't make it.

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rabinoz

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1378 on: August 30, 2019, 12:12:06 AM »
By the way, a little word of advice. Your topic is, "When will RE Community Accept Defeat?"

So just get it into your head that YOU are trying to show why we should admit defeat.

You need to convince us that the Heliocentric Globe is wrong.

Simply saying a photo is fake with no solid proof is useless.
If your think a photo, animation or video is a fake you must give better reasons than you have so far.
They just prove that you don't know what you are talking about.

I, for one, take no notice of empty words no matter how times you repeat them.

And the Heliocentric Globe doesn't depend on NASA anyway, not in the slightest!

In other words everything you've posted has been a total waste of time as far achieving your goal is concerned.

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frenat

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Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?
« Reply #1379 on: August 30, 2019, 05:04:16 AM »
Can anyone here tell me what else is wrong with this NASA official imagery Rab posted?  It's more than just a fake moon, clouds that donít move and the speed of the Moon in relation to Earthís rotation.

What more is there?  Have a close look.

These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT showing the moon moving over the Pacific Ocean near North America.

NASA SCIENCE, SOLAR SYSTEM EXPLORATION: Face of Earth

Source: NASA/NOAA
Published: January 30, 2018
Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) satellite's EPIC maintains a constant view of the fully illuminated Earth as it rotates,
providing scientific observations of ozone, vegetation, cloud height and aerosols in the atmosphere.
the clouds do move. Not much as they are large systems and the entire time lapse is only about 5 hours IIRC correctly but there are changes.
the Moon looks correct as it is the far side of the Moon and appears darker as it is exposed with the much brighter Earth.
The movement is correct given the distance and zoom level. The Earth rotates as it should for the approximately 5 hours of the time lapse. The Moon moves as much as it should in its orbit for the same amount of time. You are forgetting the far larger orbit of the Moon likely because of the zoom from the camera.
The relative sizes are correct given the distance and zoom level.

Do you need a reminder that different lenses can make objects appear different relative to each other?
https://i.imgur.com/8Tg5bP3.gifv

Please continue.....

These images were taken between 3:50 p.m. and 8:45 p.m. EDT showing the moon moving over the Pacific Ocean near North America.
nothing to continue with. YOU are wrong AGAIN. If you think you still have a point then say it and stop playing games, if you can.