When will RE Community Accept Defeat?

Quote from: kopfverderber on August 27, 2019, 12:48:48 AM

Quote from: Shifter on August 27, 2019, 12:42:21 AM

Quote from: kopfverderber on August 27, 2019, 12:28:41 AM

Quote from: Shifter on August 27, 2019, 12:16:30 AM

Quote from: Stash on August 26, 2019, 11:56:20 PM

Quote from: Shifter on August 26, 2019, 11:49:02 PM

Simple for you perhaps. But your missing so much data it looks ridiculous to have any confidence in your assertions

What data is missing for, let's say, a sunset?

More than you could fathom.....

You might not think physics beyond the Planck scale would make much difference. You might not think the web of what you call dark matter&energy make a difference because hey, you can't see it right? You might  think you know all there is to do about gravity but your wrong. It all matters

Why don't you just explain how sunset works with all that data you have?

No

So apart from abusing the missing data fallacy and using your crystal ball to see what Michio Kaku will do in the next ten years, you don't know what a sunset is?

I know all there is to know (almost)*

*added for appearance of modesty

Holy shit Shifter...if an outsider reads your bullshit, they would ask what happened to you when you were little (I am really sorry when I hit a nerve...if it is something too bad to talk about...). You don`t even try. But apparantly you are so woke...you sound like an existence above god *kneels before you*.

Back to topic: I think with Shifter as flat earther, it seems like RE doesn`t even need to proof anything anymore. I learned that I sometimes should let people with special needs win the game...so again, shouldn`t we accept our "defeat"? Saves time, money, idiocrazy...

Quote from: Apokalypt on August 27, 2019, 01:35:27 AM

Holy shit Shifter...if an outsider reads your bullshit, they would ask what happened to you when you were little (I am really sorry when I hit a nerve...if it is something too bad to talk about...). You don`t even try. But apparantly you are so woke...you sound like an existence above god *kneels before you*.

Back to topic: I think with Shifter as flat earther, it seems like RE doesn`t even need to proof anything anymore. I learned that I sometimes should let people with special needs win the game...so again, shouldn`t we accept our "defeat"? Saves time, money, idiocrazy...

I am not a flat earther and I am not a God

Quote from: Shifter on August 27, 2019, 01:52:41 AM

Quote from: Apokalypt on August 27, 2019, 01:35:27 AM

Holy shit Shifter...if an outsider reads your bullshit, they would ask what happened to you when you were little (I am really sorry when I hit a nerve...if it is something too bad to talk about...). You don`t even try. But apparantly you are so woke...you sound like an existence above god *kneels before you*.

Back to topic: I think with Shifter as flat earther, it seems like RE doesn`t even need to proof anything anymore. I learned that I sometimes should let people with special needs win the game...so again, shouldn`t we accept our "defeat"? Saves time, money, idiocrazy...

I am not a flat earther and I am not a God

Then I am confused. You sound like a flat earther (haven`t read all your posts of course) and also write as much bullshit as them, ignoring questions, avoiding stuff etc. So you believe in RE, so be a bit more clear.

Quote from: Shifter on August 27, 2019, 01:52:41 AM

Quote from: Apokalypt on August 27, 2019, 01:35:27 AM

Holy shit Shifter...if an outsider reads your bullshit, they would ask what happened to you when you were little (I am really sorry when I hit a nerve...if it is something too bad to talk about...). You don`t even try. But apparantly you are so woke...you sound like an existence above god *kneels before you*.

Back to topic: I think with Shifter as flat earther, it seems like RE doesn`t even need to proof anything anymore. I learned that I sometimes should let people with special needs win the game...so again, shouldn`t we accept our "defeat"? Saves time, money, idiocrazy...

I am not a flat earther and I am not a God

Then I am confused. You sound like a flat earther (haven`t read all your posts of course) and also write as much bullshit as them, ignoring questions, avoiding stuff etc. So you believe in RE, so be a bit more clear.

The universe is what it is.

Simple for you perhaps. But your missing so much data it looks ridiculous to have any confidence in your assertions

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean. 

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean. 

Why?

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 12:32:18 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean. 

Why?

Pour water on a curved surface and find out. Then encircle a retaining wall around a portion of the curved surface and make sure the wall is higher than the area you want to flood. Then pour water again. Then ask yourself  “why didn’t it flood without the retaining wall?"

gravity points south on ball hur dur

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:46:29 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 12:32:18 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean. 

Why?

Pour water on a curved surface and find out. Then encircle a retaining wall around a portion of the curved surface and make sure the wall is higher than the area you want to flood. Then pour water again. Then ask yourself  “why didn’t it flood without the retaining wall?"

I poured water on a flat surface. It ran off the sides. I then encircled an area of the flat surface with a retaining wall of sorts higher than the area I wanted to flood. Poured the water again. It didn't run off the sides. So I had to ask myself, “why didn’t the flat surface flood without the retaining wall?"

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 12:51:56 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:46:29 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 12:32:18 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean. 

Why?

Pour water on a curved surface and find out. Then encircle a retaining wall around a portion of the curved surface and make sure the wall is higher than the area you want to flood. Then pour water again. Then ask yourself  “why didn’t it flood without the retaining wall?"

I poured water on a flat surface. It ran off the sides. I then encircled an area of the flat surface with a retaining wall of sorts higher than the area I wanted to flood. Poured the water again. It didn't run off the sides. So I had to ask myself, “why didn’t the flat surface flood without the retaining wall?"

 

Now try it with your model.

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:01:56 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 12:51:56 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:46:29 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 12:32:18 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean. 

Why?

Pour water on a curved surface and find out. Then encircle a retaining wall around a portion of the curved surface and make sure the wall is higher than the area you want to flood. Then pour water again. Then ask yourself  “why didn’t it flood without the retaining wall?"

I poured water on a flat surface. It ran off the sides. I then encircled an area of the flat surface with a retaining wall of sorts higher than the area I wanted to flood. Poured the water again. It didn't run off the sides. So I had to ask myself, “why didn’t the flat surface flood without the retaining wall?"

 

Now try it with your model.

Just did, same thing. So in your mind the earth can't be round and it can't be flat either?

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean.  Our Earth’s surface lacks the curvature as taught. It’s time accept reality and common sense.

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 01:04:56 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:01:56 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 12:51:56 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:46:29 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 12:32:18 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean. 

Why?

Pour water on a curved surface and find out. Then encircle a retaining wall around a portion of the curved surface and make sure the wall is higher than the area you want to flood. Then pour water again. Then ask yourself  “why didn’t it flood without the retaining wall?"

I poured water on a flat surface. It ran off the sides. I then encircled an area of the flat surface with a retaining wall of sorts higher than the area I wanted to flood. Poured the water again. It didn't run off the sides. So I had to ask myself, “why didn’t the flat surface flood without the retaining wall?"

 

Now try it with your model.

Just did, same thing. So in your mind the earth can't be round and it can't be flat either?

No games for you.

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean.  Our Earth’s surface lacks the curvature as taught. It’s time accept reality and common sense.

What if the adjoining land is below sea level?  Or if the flood waters are coming from overflowing rivers upstream?  Have you ever heard of storm surge?

Quote from: markjo on August 27, 2019, 01:29:35 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean.  Our Earth’s surface lacks the curvature as taught. It’s time accept reality and common sense.

What if the adjoining land is below sea level?  Or if the flood waters are coming from overflowing rivers upstream?  Have you ever heard of storm surge?

Think sphere surface. Not flat or below sea curve. "Sphere Surface" adjoing a coast line.

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:34:50 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 27, 2019, 01:29:35 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean.  Our Earth’s surface lacks the curvature as taught. It’s time accept reality and common sense.

What if the adjoining land is below sea level?  Or if the flood waters are coming from overflowing rivers upstream?  Have you ever heard of storm surge?

Think sphere surface. Not flat or below sea curve. "Sphere Surface" adjoing a coast line.

How does a flat earth flood without a retaining wall holding the flood waters in? Your experiment showed that it wouldn't.

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 01:44:57 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:34:50 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 27, 2019, 01:29:35 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean.  Our Earth’s surface lacks the curvature as taught. It’s time accept reality and common sense.

What if the adjoining land is below sea level?  Or if the flood waters are coming from overflowing rivers upstream?  Have you ever heard of storm surge?

Think sphere surface. Not flat or below sea curve. "Sphere Surface" adjoing a coast line.

How does a flat earth flood without a retaining wall holding the flood waters in? Your experiment showed that it wouldn't.

Large surface areas of Earths landmass that are depressed (not curved) can easily flood. But these same large surface areas could not flood if the surface was curved. unless a retaining wall held back the water

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 01:44:57 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:34:50 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 27, 2019, 01:29:35 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean.  Our Earth’s surface lacks the curvature as taught. It’s time accept reality and common sense.

What if the adjoining land is below sea level?  Or if the flood waters are coming from overflowing rivers upstream?  Have you ever heard of storm surge?

Think sphere surface. Not flat or below sea curve. "Sphere Surface" adjoing a coast line.

How does a flat earth flood without a retaining wall holding the flood waters in? Your experiment showed that it wouldn't.

Large surface areas of Earths landmass that are depressed (not curved) can easily flood. But these same large surface areas could not flood if the surface was curved. unless a retaining wall held back the water

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:56:35 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 01:44:57 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:34:50 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 27, 2019, 01:29:35 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean.  Our Earth’s surface lacks the curvature as taught. It’s time accept reality and common sense.

What if the adjoining land is below sea level?  Or if the flood waters are coming from overflowing rivers upstream?  Have you ever heard of storm surge?

Think sphere surface. Not flat or below sea curve. "Sphere Surface" adjoing a coast line.

How does a flat earth flood without a retaining wall holding the flood waters in? Your experiment showed that it wouldn't.

Large surface areas of Earths landmass that are depressed (not curved) can easily flood. But these same large surface areas could not flood if the surface was curved. unless a retaining wall held back the water

I’m sorry but you really need to go and study geography/topography and other earth sciences to understand how and why flooding occurs. It has nothing to do with the earth being flat.

Quote from: Lonegranger on August 27, 2019, 02:05:57 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:56:35 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 01:44:57 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:34:50 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 27, 2019, 01:29:35 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean.  Our Earth’s surface lacks the curvature as taught. It’s time accept reality and common sense.

What if the adjoining land is below sea level?  Or if the flood waters are coming from overflowing rivers upstream?  Have you ever heard of storm surge?

Think sphere surface. Not flat or below sea curve. "Sphere Surface" adjoing a coast line.

How does a flat earth flood without a retaining wall holding the flood waters in? Your experiment showed that it wouldn't.

Large surface areas of Earths landmass that are depressed (not curved) can easily flood. But these same large surface areas could not flood if the surface was curved. unless a retaining wall held back the water

I’m sorry but you really need to go and study geography/topography and other earth sciences to understand how and why flooding occurs. It has nothing to do with the earth being flat.

Flooding has everything to do with large landmass that are depressed (not curved), and not a damn thing to do with a large curved landmass, unless a retaining wall held back the water.

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean.

Now try it with your model.

Large surface areas of Earths landmass that are depressed (not curved) can easily flood.

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean.

You have already had this brought up and had your ass handed to you.
Why bring it up again?

Again, you end up with the same non issue for the RE and a hypothetical FE.
All you need is more water coming in than will flow out.

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:01:56 PM

Now try it with your model.

The RE is not a tiny ball being held above a massive sphere.
As such, if you want to try it with our model, with a physical model you will need to be in free-fall outside the roche limit of any significant body.
Making up a strawman to try and refute the RE does not help your case.

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:56:35 PM

Large surface areas of Earths landmass that are depressed (not curved) can easily flood.

So all you are saying is that Earth isn't a perfect sphere?
If so, no one is suggesting it is.
Land which is depressed below sea level is still below sea level, even on a RE.

Again, it is the same non-issues for the RE and a hypothetical FE.

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:56:35 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 27, 2019, 01:44:57 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 01:34:50 PM

Quote from: markjo on August 27, 2019, 01:29:35 PM

Quote from: Plat Terra on August 27, 2019, 12:28:34 PM

Waters’ on a sphere Earth cannot backup up and flood a spherical surface, especially if the land adjoins an ocean.  Our Earth’s surface lacks the curvature as taught. It’s time accept reality and common sense.

What if the adjoining land is below sea level?  Or if the flood waters are coming from overflowing rivers upstream?  Have you ever heard of storm surge?

Think sphere surface. Not flat or below sea curve. "Sphere Surface" adjoing a coast line.

How does a flat earth flood without a retaining wall holding the flood waters in? Your experiment showed that it wouldn't.

Large surface areas of Earths landmass that are depressed (not curved) can easily flood. But these same large surface areas could not flood if the surface was curved. unless a retaining wall held back the water

On a flat plane the water would just run off the sides never getting a chance to flood anything. What's holding the water on to a flat earth?