You ask, "Re: When will RE Community Accept Defeat?" And the answer is obviously "NEVER" unless you come up with some answers quick-smart.
Venus is not at same altitude as the Sun. There is no fog bank it was just a thought illustration. You should know the difference.
You said "fog bank". But if it's not a "fog bank" exactly what is hiding the sun right where we see Venus rising just a little earlier?
Your concern is the atmosphere bank that blocks the Suns light beyond the horizon.
I've no concern about any "atmosphere bank that blocks the Suns light beyond the horizon". That's your problem.
I hope you realise that in many places there are other people living "beyond the horizon".
Why don't they see your magic "atmosphere bank that blocks the Suns light beyond the horizon"?
Venus is no issue. It's just a wondering wandering star that passes into our circle of view.
Really? What do you know about the
the planets Venus and Mercury that are sometimes closer to the sun than we are are and sometimes further away.
Have a look
Mercury transit incoming 11th Nov 2019, Started by kopfverderber . Mercury will pass between the earth and the sun.
Whether you like it or not the rising of the moon, planets and stars is simply more evidence against your flat earth with its "The sun, moon, and stars are all rotating around a central point over the North Pole."
But they are defecting all around the world.
Really? Who's defecting?
Defecting from the Globe or getting kicked out of flat earth groups like
Bob Knodell was for supposedly proving the earth rotates etc.
And while Eric Dubay hasn't "defected" he has totally "lost his cool" and completely "spat the dummy" with his rants against many of the "top flat earthers".
It's been quite hilarious to watch!
Why do you think I am here? I was defeated.
How would I know why you are here?
Since you've been you've done little more than post "smart aleck memes" that do no more than show your own ignorance of how the Globe works.
Lately you've tried to explain a few things about "your flat earth".
But none of those seem plausible to anyone that has observed how things really are.
BTW that's a priceless answer. "Who said that they do?" That's an answer I would expect from someone who's ID.
So answer the question "Who said that 'surface mirages apply to boats thought to be going over an alleged curved' ?"