Where has it all gone?

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Where has it all gone?
« on: July 21, 2019, 02:28:27 AM »
Itís an interesting fact on the flat earth Wiki that rather than using their own flat earth maps for presenting their flat earth arguments they instead use regular projections of the globe.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Gravimetry#Underground_Detection

In this case they are using maps to show the active earthquake zones that denote the various coming together of the tectonic plates that makeup the earthís surface. Plate tectonics, the moving around of the nine major plates and the ten or so minor plates is beyond dispute as their movements are being constantly monitored.

If you care to consider the mid Atlantic ridge which is forcing the plates that makeup the Americaís and Europe apart due to the formation of new rock, on a flat earth infinite or not, parts of continents would be being pushed over the rim as this new rock was being created.

At one time Scotland was connected to the North Eastern USA a time when there was no Atlantic Ocean, they are now over 3000 miles apart, is it the case that 3000 miles of continental crust have been pushed off the edge? If not a question to all flat earthers is where did all this crust go? If it was pushed off the edge it would have made a massive hole in the ice wall, resulting in all the oceans draining away.

So.....where is all the missing crust, given the age of the earth that would amount to a great deal of mantle, so where is it?

Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2019, 08:50:03 AM »
....Looks like no one has a clue.

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Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2019, 10:21:51 AM »
You could always address issues you have with the TFES.org wiki on the TFES.org website, unless they have banned you. Why should anyone here answer for their wiki?
Let me explain this in a way you can understand. What you just wrote sounds exactly like something that a gay rights Portuguese Samurai would write.

Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2019, 11:01:07 AM »
You could always address issues you have with the TFES.org wiki on the TFES.org website, unless they have banned you. Why should anyone here answer for their wiki?

If you care to read my post it's not really specifically aimed at 'the other lot' its more a general question for all flat earth believers. If the earth is indeed flat where has all the missing mantle gone? has it indeed been pushed off the edge, if not where is it?

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Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2019, 11:43:25 AM »
You could always address issues you have with the TFES.org wiki on the TFES.org website, unless they have banned you. Why should anyone here answer for their wiki?

If you care to read my post it's not really specifically aimed at 'the other lot' its more a general question for all flat earth believers. If the earth is indeed flat where has all the missing mantle gone? has it indeed been pushed off the edge, if not where is it?
Why wouldn't it recycle?
Let me explain this in a way you can understand. What you just wrote sounds exactly like something that a gay rights Portuguese Samurai would write.

Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2019, 03:40:21 PM »
You could always address issues you have with the TFES.org wiki on the TFES.org website, unless they have banned you. Why should anyone here answer for their wiki?

If you care to read my post it's not really specifically aimed at 'the other lot' its more a general question for all flat earth believers. If the earth is indeed flat where has all the missing mantle gone? has it indeed been pushed off the edge, if not where is it?
Why wouldn't it recycle?

Exactly.... How would this happen on a flat earth?
There is an excellent explanation of how this would work on a spherical body with floating plates and a molten interior but alas it does not hold for a flat body.
This is just one of the many problems with a flat world in that processes like subduction can't just be grafted onto a flat earth idea.
 

Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2019, 03:58:23 PM »
This would fundamentally depend on how the plates move (including relative to each other).
If they just move around the centre, then a similar process would occur with the plates colliding and one going under the other.
The part which results in a significant issue is a plate moving south off a finite FE.
If that happened then there would be no way for them to be recovered and they would just fall off Earth.

But all that is needed to prevent that is for Antarctica to be a giant ring plate which holds it all together.
Then as long as that plate never goes off it should be able to hold all the others in.

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Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2019, 03:41:24 PM »
I'd like to hear an answer to this as well.
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Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2019, 03:46:27 PM »
Could you provide your evidence for the edge of the Earth being so close to the tectonic plates?

Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2019, 05:26:47 AM »
Could you provide your evidence for the edge of the Earth being so close to the tectonic plates?
Ha! That's funny. How about providing evidence for an edge?

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Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2019, 05:42:44 AM »
Could you provide your evidence for the edge of the Earth being so close to the tectonic plates?
Ha! That's funny. How about providing evidence for an edge?
Why? I'm not claiming there is. The people defending this argument on the other hand are claiming they know where it would be located, so my question seems pertinent.

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Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2019, 08:49:02 AM »

So.....where is all the missing crust, given the age of the earth that would amount to a great deal of mantle, so where is it?

Ha ha is an effect of Mandela!

Are you sure that the earth is not such?

Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2019, 02:32:56 PM »
New thought

In a prrvoous discussion with jane, exploring the ua, it was thought possibly the molten lava was heated from the kinetic energy of the ua as it pushed this massive plate up through the universe.

But then, what if a volcano birst through?
The ua is strong enough to push planets but somehow the earth blocks it.
But If the underside were motlen, and a puncture was made in the earth, i would think the ua would just push right through causing a gaping hole.
And that hole would keep increasing in diameter.

Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2019, 07:05:41 PM »
Have you heard of the BBB postulate?  It stands for BBB (Baloney Breeds Baloney). Someone postulates a Baloney theory (e.g. UA) which promptly runs into trouble thereby causing more Baloney to back it up (e.g. Celestial Gravitation), and it keeps going on and on until it nears the BMP (Baloney Maturity Point) defined by the bringing to bear the work of Einstein by FE "officials", causing arguments back and forth that generally have little to do with the original Baloney Postulate, culminating finally at the BEP (Baloney End Point) where Sandhokan jumps in with pages of Sagnac math that nobody cares about, causing the discussion to die out and the whole thing becomes just another dead thread along with the zillions of other DBT's (Dead Baloney Threads) that make up the FE archives.

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Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2019, 09:59:09 PM »
I think your wrong in that most flat earthers who come upon Sandokhans writings wish they under stood what he was saying more thoroughly. 
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Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2019, 11:42:47 AM »
I think your wrong in that most flat earthers who come upon Sandokhans writings wish they under stood what he was saying more thoroughly.
Ummm -- sure they do --

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Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2019, 11:49:42 AM »
sandokhan doesn't cause the discussion to die out, the endless fisking does. It's difficult to have a real conversation with people who insist on boringly breaking down a post and replying to it sentence by sentence. You RE love to blame the FE for everything, but have a look at yourselves.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2019, 12:07:39 PM »
I think your wrong in that most flat earthers who come upon Sandokhans writings wish they under stood what he was saying more thoroughly.
Ummm -- sure they do --
It's pretty interesting stuff if you put a little effort in.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=71053.msg2093618#msg2093618

Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2019, 01:58:13 AM »
If we go back to the original question, flat earth believers have no scientifically derived answer to this question as there is no flat earth answer. Plate tectonics as is studied observed and recorded only works on a globe earth.

If we stay with reality for a moment, GPS, the Russian GLONASS, Chinaís BeiDou and the European Unionís Galileo  have revolutionised the way the ever moving continents are tracked  with their positions being constantly monitored. Continents like Australia for example are moving quite rapidly averaging 7cm per annum.

The data produced by these different satellite based systems, relative position of landmasses, only holds true for a globe earth, there is no way this relative positional data can be interpreted to show the earth is flat let alone be flat and infinite!

https://wonderfulengineering.com/how-gps-keeps-up-with-the-continent-thats-in-constant-motion/

The fact that land masses are constantly moving is beyond doubt, if the earth were flat or flat and infinite all the continental crust would have moved either off the edge leaving no land, or moved off into infinity to be replaced by crust from the infinite reaches, neither of which is the case.

The problem is for flat  earthers, regardless the scientific discipline that is chosen, physics, astronomy or in this case geology all the facts each has to offer prove the earth is neither flat nor infinite.




Re: Where has it all gone?
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2019, 10:03:09 AM »
The fact that land masses are constantly moving is beyond doubt

There's many things beyond doubt which flat earthers still dispute. Cast iron proof is not enough, if it goes against FET they have no choice but to fight it.
The Universal Accelerator is a constant farce.

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