I didn't say it sits on crap.
I paraphrased.
The point is you are just repeatedly saying it is sitting on crap without telling us what force is acting on the rocket.
Until you tell us what force is acting on the rocket and where that force is applied to the rocket you haven't even attempted to explain it.
Likewise, until you tell us what force is acting on the gas to have it exit the rocket and what the reactionary force to that is (i.e. what the gas is pushing off to leave the rocket), you have failed to even attempt to explain it.
Stop just repeatedly lying by saying you have explained it when you have made no attempt to.
Again, tell us how the gas accelerates out of the rocket and how the rocket moves forwards.
Tell us what 2 bodies are interacting for each of these situations and what force is being applied where.
The only thing in your favour is, nobody is willing to back me up to say that I did explain it
And the fact that you never explained it and never made any attempt to, instead repeatedly dodging requests to explain it and just lying and saying you have.
And the mountains of evidence that rockets do work in space which you just ignore.
And basic physics and the evidence which backs that up.
Now what is in your favour?
People that feel a need to reject the reality of rockets working in space because they disprove their FE fantasy, who are incapable of providing an explanation of how rockets work and instead just repeatedly assert that they have, and who are completely incapable of showing any problem with the conventional explanation of how rockets work.
However, I know I have explained and that's good enough for me.
See, it is statements like these which show you aren't acting like you are just providing your opinion. These statements show that you are acting like you are providing facts.
In the meantime show me how your space rockets work.
I already have repeatedly. You were unable to show a single thing wrong the explanation and instead just dismissed it as nonsense.
Go back and read what has already been provided.
Or if you don't want to do that, actually provide an explanation of how rockets work.
Or address the issue that has been plaguing your side of this thread before you joined.
What happens in a vacuum? Does the gas leave the tube? If so, how?
What is it pushing against? The only object available is the rocket, which would mean it is pushing against the rocket and thus rockets work.
If it isn't pushing against the rocket then the only options are that it pushes against itself or it doesn't need to push against anything, either way allowing rockets to work in a vacuum.
And you've watched many or some or one...have you?
I'm not the paranoid one rejecting reality. I have enough evidence to conclude that rockets will work in space and see no need to go watch them.
You are the one who should be going to watch them considering you think they are fake.
Now, if someone claimed NCC1701 USS enterprise was being launched, that I would want to go and see, as that would either be a stealing of a name, or almost certainly a fake as it relies upon pure fiction to work.
I'm not doubting rocket launches.
Yes you were. You dismissed the launches people see as fake.
I'm not questioning real rockets
No, you are outright rejecting them. Remember, real rockets work in space. If you reject rockets working in space, you are rejecting real rockets.
No I'm not, so who's sitting there reeling off bullcrap?
Still you, where you quite happily change your story as it suits you, repeatedly contradicting yourself.
Simple physics do not dictate rockets work.
Then why are you completely incapable of refuting this very real simple physics which demands they do work?
Just repeating the same pathetic dismissals shows that you have no case and that you know you have no case.
Trust me on this; if I didn't see anything that gave me a mind to question it, I wouldn't be questioning.
And what gives you a mind to question it?
The fact that they are incompatible with your FE fantasy?
What from reality gives you mind to question it?
You are yet to demonstrate any problem at all with it.
Instead, the only "problem" seems to be that they show you are wrong.
I have done small experiments with evacuation chambers and also simple logical deductions as well as seeing what I believe to be discrepancies with a lot of what we're shown.
Silly stuff like atmosphere changing as a rocket launches, for no reason legitimate wise but it makes perfect sense why things would be altered if we were being duped.
You know what I'm talking about so don't waste your time asking me to prove it. It's all there in the videos we are told to accept as a truth.
No, we don't know what you are talking about.
So far the only experiment you have provided is one where beads bounced off a spinning disk in a vacuum chamber.
Nothing challenging real physics or the reality of rockets working in space.
Simple logical deductions show you to be completely wrong, which is why you have been repeatedly ignoring them or dismissing them as nonsense.
Of course it doesn't fit my world view. It doesn't fit because I see too many discrepancies.
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What discrepancies?
Discrepancies with reality, which you are unable to provide a single one?
Or just discrepancies with your FE fantasy?
Again, stop with the insults. It fits our world view because it is backed up by mountains of evidence and actually makes sense. It has nothing to do with being brainwashed or peer pressured into it.
It beggars belief that people fall for this utter utter garbage but they do.
Except again, you are yet to show a single problem with it.
The only problem seems to be that it shows you are wrong.
Why should people reject reality, just because it shows you are wrong?
Visiting a rocket on the launchpad to see and inspect it to see if it is made of what we are told.
Then viewing the space where the so called astronauts sit.
And then once satisfied with that, watching those same so called astronauts get into the rocket and be strapped inside with a camera videoing the capsule door firly closed as well as any other potential exits under camera surveillance.
Then watch it lift off from the very same vantage points of the so called experts seen looking out of windows at the supposed same thing.
i.e. an extremely high standard which you know you will not get unless you pay a lot of money.
i.e. you have absolutely no interest in finding out the truth and instead just want to reject it at all costs because it shows you are wrong.
Not being able to see he physical truth of any of this stuff.
No, that is not evidence to any sane person.
The people who own it all have no obligation to meet your demands to show you that it is real.
That is not evidence that you are correct at all.
I'm simply putting my point across as strongly as you people are, whether you accept any of it or none of it.
You might think you are, but you are not.
You are failing to provide any logical arguments to back up your claims, or any evidence to back them up, while repeating having your claims refuted.
In order to be putting your point as strongly as we are putting ours, you would need to provide diagrams clearly showing a force on the rocket. You would need to explain how the gas and rocket accelerate, including what force is acting where and what the reactionary force to it is.
You would need to address the issues which you flee from.
However, I will tell you that rockets into the space they tell us about, is nonsense...and this is what we're arguing.
And that is the problem.
You "tell" us. You don't provide any rational argument against them. You don't provide any problem with the explanations of how they work. You don't provide any alternative explanation which actually explains anything and you flee from the issues which show they MUST work.
Stop just "telling" us and start justifying your claims.
Provide actual explanations.
Provide actual problems with the explanations we have provided.
Deal with the issues that have been presented.
There's evidence been posted many a time.
What evidence?
I am yet to see any from you.
There has been plenty of claims of such evidence being presented, but never any actual evidence.
How do satellites get into position?
They don't.
Then you need to deal with what is faking them, where for GPS, with so much information available, the only option would be to completely blanket Earth in transmitters which would very noticeable and still has the potential for serious failure.
The only rational explanation for how GPS works is with satellites.