HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)

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rabinoz

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1230 on: September 12, 2019, 03:34:34 PM »
Let me explain to everyone how a ring shaped exhaust functions.



The gases will be expelled at a very high speed through the specially designed nozzle design, at least 3.5 Mach.
So what?
With Mach 1 at sea-level being 340.29 m/s that Mach 3.5 is only 1191m/s.

LH2/LOX fueled rocket engines, used for decades, have exhaust velocities of up to 4450 m/s!

Even the SpaceX Raptor CH4/LOX engine has an equivalent exhaust velocity of over 3,700 m/s.

And the RP1/LOX fueled Rocketdyne F-1 engines of the Saturn V used to launch Apollo 11 had an  exhaust velocity of almost 2600 m/s!

Please get up to date on "modern" rocket engine technology.

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rabinoz

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1231 on: September 12, 2019, 03:50:13 PM »
but you are both devoid of common decency, honesty and are also "Incompetent in Physics".

You must be describing your own contribution to this forum.

Here is a sample: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82968.0
I see nothing relevant to having "common decency, honesty and are also 'Incompetent in Physics' " in that!

Unless you claim that showing that the self-claimed "Flat Earth Sultan and Flat Earth Scientist" is 'Incompetent in Physics' is a crime against common decency and honesty.

Stop pretending that you know far more than people like Michelson, Sagnac, Silberstein, Einstein, Weyl and countless others - you don't!

Some who claims that:
  • a couple of photos are enough to prove that the sun is 600 m in diameter and 15 km above the earth and
  • The Deluge occurred some 310 years ago and
  • Christ was crucified at Constantinople some 260 years ago

simply has to be devoid any concept of perspective and completely lost touch with reality.

Come down off your high horse and join the human race, Mr Sandokhan!

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Macarios

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1232 on: September 12, 2019, 04:29:25 PM »
So, the exhaust gets pushed by the rocket only after it reaches full speed at the moment of exiting the nozzle?
Then what accelerates it inside to reach that speed?
And on what the accelerated gas exerts its reaction force while it's still inside?

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In vacuum:
When the first quantity of the exhaust exits the rocket it is denser than the Earth's atmosphere.
Are you saying that the next layer of the exhaust can't push off the previous layer?
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
The main goal in all that is simplicity.

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Danang

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1233 on: September 12, 2019, 09:06:15 PM »
Oh no

Danang, many Christians will not "swear on the Bible" even in a court of law.
Quote
James 5:12
But above all, my brethren, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or with any other oath; but your yes is to be yes, and your no, no, so that you may not fall under judgment.
And the same goes for Buzz Aldrin and that low-life, Bart Sibrel, probably knew that!

But what has that to do with the topic, "Rockets can't fly in a vacuum"?

Rocket and moon landing is close ;D
But thanks, Rabinoz, for the Bible information.
Unfortunately what you said has a different context with the refusal to swear among astro-nots.
They feared to claim something that doesn't exist. ✌
• South Pole Centered FE Map AKA Phew FE Map
• Downwards Universal Deceleration.

Phew's Silicon Valley: https://gwebanget.home.blog/

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sandokhan

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1234 on: September 12, 2019, 09:36:32 PM »
It is the shape of the nozzle which makes all the difference.

Absolutely and positively, at least for this design, the ring shaped exhaust won't work on pure vacuum.

I see nothing relevant to having "common decency, honesty and are also 'Incompetent in Physics' " in that!

In plain view, for everyone to see:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82968.0

Stop pretending that you know far more than people like Michelson, Sagnac, Silberstein, Einstein

Of course I do, no pretending at all.

Michelson received the Nobel prize, practically, for a single formula published in different forms in 1881, 1887 and 1904.

But that was the wrong formula.

Neither Michelson, nor Sagnac, nor Silberstein, nor Einstein were able to derive the GLOBAL SAGNAC EFFECT FORMULA.

But I was:

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg2117351#msg2117351


a couple of photos are enough to prove that the sun is 600 m in diameter and 15 km above the earth and
The Deluge occurred some 310 years ago and
Christ was crucified at Constantinople some 260 years ago


Of course.

The Gauss Easter formula proves immediately that all of the ancient history has been forged.

The Clayton formula proves that the shape of the Sun must be discoidal and not spherical.

The maps dated 1570AD - 1725AD featuring Pompeii as a thriving city cannot be debunked.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2019, 09:39:48 PM by sandokhan »

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Themightykabool

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1235 on: September 13, 2019, 01:46:44 AM »

One woukd assume wih all of sandos insistants that he has conducted such experiemnts himself to prove worng?

We can expect a nobel prize coming?

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JackBlack

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1236 on: September 13, 2019, 02:26:01 AM »
It is the shape of the nozzle which makes all the difference.
I don't care.
We are dealing with simple rockets.
If you want to move on to a highly specific design, then first admit that rockets work in a vacuum.
If you don't want to admit they do, then tell us how the gas accelerates.

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cikljamas

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1237 on: September 13, 2019, 03:13:59 AM »
We all live in sandokhan's show or Qui Bono (to whom is it a benefit?) Only if continued empirical tests contradicted the theory could the theory be modified, or dropped entirely if a new theory was proposed in its place.

Turtles All The Way Down

However, from at least the 6th century BCE, the theory of the flat Earth began to fall out of favour. By the time we get to Aristotle in the 4th century BCE, the idea of a spherical Earth is commonplace, at least among the educated classes. And by the 1st Century BCE it is considered an uncontroversial truth. Having said that, the theory of a flat Earth has continued as a minor tradition in thought, like a handful of theories in science, such as Lamarckianism and vitalism.

But, if the flat Earth serves as a kind of myth or fantasy for those who believe in it, there are also myths about the flat Earth that are just as widespread.

One of the most widely propagated myths in the contemporary world is the belief that Columbus was advised by the Catholic Church to abandon his journey on the basis that he risked falling off the edge of the world.

‘The Principle’ Tells the ‘Most Interesting Detective Story in History’ That Scientists Want Concealed

Rick DeLano, producer and writer of the documentary film “The Principle,” talked about his film with SiriusXM host Stephen K. Bannon on Wednesday’s edition of Breitbart News Daily.

“In this time of political almost-revolution, why should somebody take time to watch your documentary, which is going to potentially change their entire view of the universe?” Bannon asked, posing what many philosophers would argue is a question that answers itself.

“You’re right, this is the whole ball of wax, let’s face it,” DeLano replied. “Until about 500 years ago, everybody in the world looked up and saw the Sun going across the sky and figured that’s what was actually happening. And, of course, Copernicus came along and said, no, that’s an illusion — we’re spinning around our axis once a day and going around the Sun once a year.”

“That smoothed out so many strange things that it was universally adopted,” DeLano said. “It’s one of the most fascinating things in the world, how we all had our view of reality completely inverted from the ancient view of us being the center and focus of the universe.”

“Now, what’s really interesting — it’s ironic, in a way — we finally get to the point where we can build sensors, look out and see the absolute furthest stretches of this incredible universe of ours, and what we see — it’s almost comical. We see that on its very largest scales, this universe seems to be constructed in such a way that the whole darn thing, on its largest scales, is picking out a special direction — and it happens to be us!” he exclaimed.

This should be a completely random residue, of course, of the Big Bang. Instead, what we see is, the darn thing is completely counter-predicted. It’s not random. It picks out a special direction. It’s very planar. And, across the entire universe, it picks out a special direction.

There’s not supposed to be one. There’s supposed to be no up, no down, no left, no right, no special directions, no special locations — but there are. There is a special direction across the entire universe. The physicists have been calling it the ‘Axis of Evil,’ which is a unique and interesting name. But this Axis of Evil shouldn’t be there, and it is.

It is pointing out a special direction, and it is related to us. Our supposedly insignificant, tiny pale blue dot Earth seems to be a focus — well, the way that Lawrence Krauss puts it in the film is that, you know, if these observations were true, he said at the time, this would mean that the entire universe is arranged around us.

“What we know now is that it is true. We can disagree about what this might mean, but there’s really no longer any grounds to disagree about the fact that it’s there. It is there,” DeLano asserted.

“It’s being actively suppressed,” said DeLano. “And that shouldn’t surprise you at all. If you watch the film, you’ll see that Michio Kaku, very famous cosmologist, states right into the camera that the dark matter issue was swept under the rug for 70 years. For 70 years they knew that the galaxies weren’t spinning according to the laws of gravity. That was kept completely hidden for 70 years, until they came up with an explanation that they could run with, which they now call ‘dark matter.’ This is much bigger than that. This drops that to complete insignificance.” 

“You’re gonna tell your kids one of two stories, because there are only two,” DeLano said of his movie’s significance to the common man. “The first one says that we’re an insignificant pale blue dot, that we’re the outcome of random physical processes, that we are absolutely nothing special — that there is absolutely nothing special about us or our location.”

“The other story is one that everybody in the world believed, up until Copernicus came along, which is that we are the actual focus and center of the entire creation,” he continued. “The fact that we have all gone from one to the other, over the past 500 years, is the most interesting detective story in history.

Dr Robert Sungenis vs Allegedly Sane Flat Earther (hilarious excerpt) :
HEY PUNK, MAKE MY DAY, PROVE ME WRONG : (watching this video you will easier figure out a real purpose of FLAT EARTH movement (psyop designed and activated by those who want to discredit geocentrism))
FLAT EARTH PROBLEM (LISTEN IT VERY CAREFULLY) :

THIS IS ALL YOU WILL EVER NEED TO BE SURE THAT THE EARTH IS SPHERICALLY SHAPED :
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2200711#msg2200711
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2200805#msg2200805
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2201616#msg2201616

You will never (NEVER) see at least one lousy attempt of refutation of anything (any argument) that i presented in three posts (links) above!!! It says it all...

IN ADDITION :
THE COSMOLOGICAL PRINCIPLE IS NOT IN THE SKY : https://arxiv.org/pdf/1611.02139.pdf
"I can't breathe" George Floyd RIP

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JackBlack

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1238 on: September 13, 2019, 03:20:30 AM »
[more pathetic spam]
I see you are still running away from the very simple question.
When you can't even deal with that and it firmly refutes your garbage, why do we need to bother with any of your other spam?

If you want me to bother with any of your other garbage on this thread, ANSWER THE QUESTION!

Tell us how the gas accelerates.
If you can't provide an alternative to rockets working in a vacuum, then admit they work.
Once you have done one of those we can move on to other nonsense from you.

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cikljamas

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1239 on: September 13, 2019, 07:11:20 AM »
[more pathetic spam]
I see you are still running away from the very simple question.
HERE IS THE ANSWER YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, JACK - part 1 : https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2201342#msg2201342
HERE IS THE ANSWER YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, JACK - part 2 :
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2201661#msg2201661
HERE IS THE ANSWER YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, JACK - part 3 :
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2202385#msg2202385
The best part comes last - The last thing to add is sugar - Save the best for last : REPLY #1200 : https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2203199#msg2203199


This is the much-concealed video of WTC7 collapsing. WTC7 is the ignored tower in 9/11. The mainstream media (MSM) avoids showing images of this tower disintegrating into dust onto its footprint. Many people are unaware that WTC7 was destroyed on September 11 (only 5% know that it collapsed). This is how much the MSM manipulates the news.
Now, let's run away ...




JackBlack a.k.a. Rabinoz believes in the greatest bullshit story ever told :
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2203405#msg2203405
World Trade Center 7 - The Implausibility of the Official Story :
« Last Edit: September 13, 2019, 07:18:40 AM by cikljamas »
"I can't breathe" George Floyd RIP

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rvlvr

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1240 on: September 13, 2019, 10:54:13 AM »
"Our results clearly showed that the strongest predictor of conspiracy belief was a constellation of personality characteristics collectively referred to as 'schizotypy,' Hart said.

The trait borrows its name from schizophrenia, but it does not imply a clinical diagnosis. Hart's study also showed that conspiracists had distinct cognitive tendencies: they were more likely than nonbelievers to judge nonsensical statements as profound (a tendency known as "BS receptivity").

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dutchy

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1241 on: September 13, 2019, 11:05:06 AM »
"Our results clearly showed that the strongest predictor of conspiracy belief was a constellation of personality characteristics collectively referred to as 'schizotypy,' Hart said.

The trait borrows its name from schizophrenia, but it does not imply a clinical diagnosis. Hart's study also showed that conspiracists had distinct cognitive tendencies: they were more likely than nonbelievers to judge nonsensical statements as profound (a tendency known as "BS receptivity").

Please don’t tell me that you think WTC7 collapsed due to raging office fires.

Sky scrapers are designed and constructed to withstand far worse as is proven all around the globe for decades...
Only during 9/11 physics were uhhh not as we knew them.

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rvlvr

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1242 on: September 13, 2019, 11:10:04 AM »

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rvlvr

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1243 on: September 13, 2019, 11:13:41 AM »
You know the best counterargument to a worldwide conspiracy is the fact it is people like you who are on to it?
« Last Edit: September 13, 2019, 11:48:29 AM by rvlvr »

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dutchy

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1244 on: September 13, 2019, 11:53:54 AM »

What’s your idea when presenting those pictures with a certain provocative content lately  ?
I do not expect much to be honest, but i’d like you to improve, because i like a good laugh and also a good amount of self-mockery. But your attempts to ridicule are a bit underwhelming.... you can surely do better !!

Remember all those Apollo topics where i complained about the flawless operation of hardily tested moon equipment... (certainly not on the moon itself) ?
‘Our scientists took care of this and that’ ‘calculated and simulated this and that ‘....therefor everything worked as expected.

Now to skyscrapers...... first thing they take into consideration is the structural solidity.
Fires of all kind are included... heck the twin towers were designed to withstand two airplaines hitting one of the towers.It’s in the official twintower documents/blueprints .....
And ‘everyone and his aunt’ knows what it takes to built a proper skyscraper ( contrary to moon machinery).....
And i have to believe that WTC-7 collapsed due to office fires ?
Never happened anywhere and it was designed and built to easily deal with fires of any kind.

But in your reality a skyscraper can collapse due to an office fire and moonmachines are working flawlessly without ever being tested on the moon itself.
In my reality no skyscraper will collapse due to office fires and untested moon machinery will have a high probabilty of failure in unknown circomstances.

But whatever makes you happy ...... certainly being part of our native forums is one of it.
Are globeearth hangouts that miserable that you need to come over here for some really interresting debate ?  ;D ;D



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sokarul

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1245 on: September 13, 2019, 11:58:58 AM »
Everyone is an expert. 
ANNIHILATOR OF  SHIFTER

It's no slur if it's fact.

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dutchy

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1246 on: September 13, 2019, 12:08:19 PM »
Everyone is an expert.
No silly...not everyone  ::) but this guy was.

Danny Jowenko.....i watched it on dutch tv when almost no American heard about building nr. 7 and it's sudden collapse.
Danny was a worldleading demolition expert who (as the vid shows) boldly claimed it was a demolition without knowing what ''collapse''  footage was presented.


It is hard to find the original content of the full dutch tv program, but he simply dismisses any other option than a pre-orchestrated demolition.
I started to doubt the official narritive from that moment....
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rvlvr

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1247 on: September 13, 2019, 12:12:54 PM »
Are globeearth hangouts that miserable that you need to come over here for some really interresting debate ?  ;D ;D
Yes! They are a goddamn drag.

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cikljamas

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1248 on: September 13, 2019, 12:13:02 PM »
You know the best counterargument to a worldwide conspiracy is the fact it is people like you who are on to it?
Hey kid, i've got something for your damaged brain (stop watching CNN, or else your brain is going to be damaged beyond repair) :

Of  course,  Tomb  and  Cheney’s  admission  also  means  the  US  has   no   hard   evidence   that   “nineteen   Muslims”   piloted   and   crashed  four  US  planes;  except,  perhaps  for  the  passport  of  Mohammed  Atta  that  just  happen  to  survive  the  crash  into  the  Twin  Towers  and  flutter  unmolested  onto  the  street  below.  But  in that case Mr. Bollyn would be glad to offer you his options in Florida  swamp  land.  Later  the  report  on  Atta’s  passport  was  revised  to  say  that  it  actually  belonged  to  another  hijacker  of  Flight  11,  Satan  al  Suqami.  Incidentally,  the  Atta  passport  was  first  presented  as  evidence  to  Mayor  Giuliani  by  his  police  commissioner, Bernard Kerik, who has a notorious past and who is  presently  in  jail  for  various  crimes.  Moreover,  when  Giuliani  was  presented  with  the  questions  at  a  press  conference  of  explosions  at  WTC,  he  turned  to  Kerik  who  simply  shook  his  head  and  said  “no.”  This  was  the  first  “official”  answer  to  the  question  that  would  never  go  away.  Additionally,  the  US  presented  videos  of  bin  Laden  supposedly  taking  responsibility  and/or   being   delighted   for   the   911   attacks.   It   was   later   discovered   that   the   videos,   which   were   obviously   fakes,   originated  from  ex-Israeli  Occupation  Forces  (IOF)  soldier  Rita  Katz through her SITE Institute.

Only Aired Once About PENTAGON :

This  video  was  only  aired  once  on  television  and  never  seen  again.  Whatever debris there was, the FBI and many unidentified people were out on  the  Pentagon  lawn  combing  the  ground  for  something,  walking  back  and forth. But this was a crime scene.

Have you ever heard about  the  four-part  FOX  news  story  by  Carl  Cameron,  accompanied  by  Brit  Hume  and  Tony Snow, on its details to know that Bollyn is following the leads where they go. The FBI and other US government agencies told Cameron that Israelis were  involved  in  911,  but  that  the  information  was  “classified.”  One  can  view  these  videos  at  several  places  on  the  Internet. The  intrigue  is  only  heightened by the fact that FOX pulled the series shortly after unidentified Zionist groups asked for its removal in 2001. Not only did FOX obey, as if following some Orwellian prophecy, it also removed the written transcripts and in its place put “This story no longer exists.” Here are some gripping excerpts from the series :

Federal  officials  this  year  have  arrested  or  detained  nearly   200   Israeli   citizens   suspected   of   belonging   to   an   “organized     intelligence-gathering     operation.”     The     Bush     administration  has  deported  most  of  those  arrested  after  Sept.  11...The  suspects:  Israeli  organized  crime  with  operations  in  New  York,  Miami,  Las  Vegas,  Canada,  Israel  and  Egypt...The  problem:  according  to  classified  law  enforcement  documents  obtained by Fox News, the bad guys had the cops’ beepers, cell phones, even home phones under surveillance. Some who did get caught  admitted  to  having  hundreds  of  numbers  and  using  them  to   avoid   arrest...Asked   this   week   about   another   sprawling   investigation  and  the  detention  of  60  Israelis  since  Sept.  11,  the  Bush     administration     treated     the     questions     like     hot     potatoes...Beyond  the  60  apprehended  or  detained,  and  many  deported since Sept. 11, another group of 140 Israeli individuals have been arrested and detained in this year in what government documents   describe   as   “an   organized   intelligence   gathering   operation,”  designed  to  “penetrate  government  facilities.”  Most  of   those   individuals   said   they   had   served   in   the   Israeli   military...But   they   also   had,   most   of   them,   intelligence   expertise,  and  either  worked  for  Amdocs  or  other  companies  in  Israel    that    specialize    in    wiretapping....Well,    there’s    real    pandemonium described at the FBI, the DEA and the INS. A lot of  these  problems  have  been  well  known  to  some  investigators,  many   of   who   have   contributed   to   the   reporting   on   this   story...They  want  to  find  out  how  it  is  all  this  has  come  out,  as  well as be very careful because of the explosive nature and very political  ramifications  of  the  story  itself  –  Tony.  SNOW:    All  right, Carl, thanks.

A third van was found on King St. between 6th and 7th which the Israelis  fled  after  they  blew  it  up.  It  was  later  found  that  the  moving  company, Urban Moving Systems (UMS), was a Mossad front and that the Kurzburg  brothers,  Paul  and  Sivan,  were  the  two  Mossad  agents.  The  entire police communication was recorded and is available on the Internet. One  of  the  police  officers  describes  one  of  the  vans  having  a  mural  of  a  plane  hitting  the  Twin  Towers.  Dominic  Suter,  another  Mossad  agent  and the registered owner of UMS, was allowed to flee to Israel by the FBI on Sept. 14, 2001, just three days after the attacks.

Dr.  Alan  Sabrosky,  Director  of  Strategic  Studies  at  the  US  Army  War  College says: “It is 100 percent certain that 9-11 was a Mossad operation. Period.”  General  Hamid  Gul,  former  Pakistan  intelligence  chief,  agrees:  “It was a Zionist/Neo Con conspiracy. It was an inside job. They wanted to go  on  world  conquest,  looking  at  it  as  an  opportunity  window  when  the  Muslim  world  was  lying  prostrate;  Russia  was  nowhere  in  sight;  China  was  still  not  an  economic  giant  that  it  has  turned  out  to  be.  And  they  thought  this  was  a  good  time  to  fill  those  strategic  areas  which  are  still  lying without any American presence; and of course to control the energy tap of the world. Presently it is the Middle East and in the future it is going to be central Asia.” Francesco Cossiga, former Italian president, is of the same opinion, telling Italy’s most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad:  “all  the  [intelligence  services]  of  America  and  Europe  ...  now  know  well  that  the  disastrous  attack  has  been  planned  and  realized  from  the  CIA  American  and  the  Mossad  with  the  aid  of  the  Zionist  world  in  order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the  western  powers  to  take  part  ...  in  Iraq  [and]  Afghanistan.”

As  for  the  odd  Israeli  reaction  to  9/11,  Benjamin  Netanyahu  himself  admitted in an off guard moment: “We are benefiting from one thing, and that  is  the  attack  on  the  Twin  Towers  and  Pentagon,  and  the  American  struggle  in  Iraq...these  events  swung  American  public  opinion  in  our  favor.” The day after, Netanyahu uttered an even more audacious remark on the 9/11 attacks, saying: “It’s very good.” Realizing the implications, he caught   himself   and   said,   “Well,   it’s   not   good,   but   it   will   generate   immediate sympathy.” Similar to Netanyahu’s capitalizing on 9/11, Ehud Barak,   which   Bollyn   says   “is   suspected   of   being   one   of   the   real   masterminds  of  9/11,”  did  much  the  same  since  “within  minutes  of  the  explosive  demolitions  of  the  Twin  Towers  on  9/11,  the  Israeli  politician  and  military  leader  Ehud  Barak  was  in  the  London  studio  of  the  BBC”  and  “before  any  evidence  of  culpability  was  found,  Barak  called  for  a  ‘War on Terror’ and US military intervention in Afghanistan,” which is a “textbook  example  of  how  false-flag  terrorism  is  supposed  to  work.  The  perpetrator  is  the  first  one  to  assign  blame...which  is  the  real  purpose  of  such atrocities.”

Alex Jones:The 9/11 Hijackers Passports Were Made Of Kryptonite (RANT)! :


Let's see what Wernher-Von-Braun has to say about feasibility of human trip to the moon :
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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1249 on: September 13, 2019, 12:14:22 PM »
You know the best counterargument to a worldwide conspiracy is the fact it is people like you who are on to it?
Hey kid, i've got something for your damaged brain (stop watching CNN, or else your brain is going to be damaged beyond repair) :
Not everyone here is American, man.

The "kid" I take as a compliment.

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1250 on: September 13, 2019, 01:26:03 PM »
Everyone is an expert.
No silly...not everyone  ::) but this guy was.

Danny Jowenko.....i watched it on dutch tv when almost no American heard about building nr. 7 and it's sudden collapse.
Danny was a worldleading demolition expert who (as the vid shows) boldly claimed it was a demolition without knowing what ''collapse''  footage was presented.


It is hard to find the original content of the full dutch tv program, but he simply dismisses any other option than a pre-orchestrated demolition.
I started to doubt the official narritive from that moment....

There is already a current thread on wtc 7.
ANNIHILATOR OF  SHIFTER

It's no slur if it's fact.

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1251 on: September 13, 2019, 01:50:36 PM »
Let's see what Wernher-Von-Braun has to say about feasibility of human trip to the moon :

he is talking about the direct ascent method of getting to the Moon and back which was first considered.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_ascent

They ended up using the lunar orbit rendezvous method instead which requires a far smaller rocket.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_orbit_rendezvous


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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1252 on: September 13, 2019, 02:04:53 PM »
You know the best counterargument to a worldwide conspiracy is the fact it is people like you who are on to it?
Hey kid, i've got something for your damaged brain (stop watching CNN, or else your brain is going to be damaged beyond repair) :
Mr Cikljamas you show more of your own character by demeaning comments like "your damaged brain" and "your brain is going to be damaged beyond repair".
And don't look good for YOU!

You've already proven yourself incapable of debating rationally when you never gave any rebuttal to my claims so you resort to peronal attacks.

Quote from: cikljamas
<< Irrelevant to topic of Rockets can't fly in a vacuum >>

Let's see what Wernher-Von-Braun has to say about feasibility of human trip to the moon:

That's what happens now with the ISS and I presume that you do note the resupply missions flown by the USA,  SpaceX, Arianespace, ROSCOSMOS and JAVA.

At present only ROSCOSMOS fly crew changeover missions.

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This is really quite irrelevant because Wernher Von Braun was planning a single massive spacecraft to fly to the moon and return.
At time and even after the Lunar missions were announced the US had not rendezvoused and docked in space.

Nevertheless, rather than Wernher Von Braun's single massive spaceship NASA decided to use the Saturn/Apollo/Lunar Lander approach that needed a far lower, though still massive, launch vehicle.

The Gemini flights were practice for rendezvous and docking in space then before Apollo 11 earlier Apollo flights provided practice with the CM and LM.

Surely you must know this know this, so why do you keep presenting Wernher Von Braun's totally impractical spaceship?

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1253 on: September 13, 2019, 03:18:06 PM »
You know the best counterargument to a worldwide conspiracy is the fact it is people like you who are on to it?
Hey kid, i've got something for your damaged brain (stop watching CNN, or else your brain is going to be damaged beyond repair) :
Mr Cikljamas you show more of your own character by demeaning comments like "your damaged brain" and "your brain is going to be damaged beyond repair".
And don't look good for YOU!
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in 9/11 official story?
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in authenticity of "moon landings"?
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in HC theory?
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in "lone gunman" theory (JFK assassination)?
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in theory of evolution?
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in theory of relativity?
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in global warming theory?
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe that something can come out of literally "nothing" (big bang theory)?
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe that rockets can fly in a vacuum of space (perfect vacuum)?
If your brain were not seriously damaged would anyone feel the need to ask you the following questions :

Rab, only a seriously mental ill person would think someone is trying to pass that video as real. Where is your common sense?
Are you also attracted to young Neil DeGrasse Tyson?


If your brain were not seriously damaged you wouldn't avoid answering these three simple questions :

Now, care to answer these three simple questions :

1. Who have been ridiculed in three videos above???
A) Flat-earthers
B) Round-earthers

2. Rabinoz is
A) Flat-earther
B) Round-earther

3. Can you rationally refute/dispute logical consistency/validity (and benevolence) of what has been tried to convey to you with the following sentence :
Rab, only a seriously mental ill person would think someone is trying to pass that video as real. Where is your common sense?


If your brain were not seriously damaged you wouldn't have to have two profiles, would you?
If your brain were not seriously damaged i wouldn't have to send this type of warning to other forum members :

If you've just read Rabinoz' attempt of refutation of what i had presented (pointing out convoluted logic ingrained in that rocket formula) in the first post on this very page, take my advise very seriously : Make instantly an appointment with your shrink and go check how seriously your brain has been damaged.

If your brain were not seriously damaged you wouldn't pretend that you didn't read this post, in the first place : https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2203721#msg2203721

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1254 on: September 14, 2019, 01:34:39 AM »
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Flat earth argumentation at its finest ...

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1255 on: September 14, 2019, 02:22:28 AM »
I don’t remember seeing Sick Llamas in the past, but he does appear a true paladin of FE.

New research by Josh Hart, associate professor of psychology, suggests that people with certain personality traits and cognitive styles are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. The research was recently published in the Journal of Individual Differences.

"These people tend to be more suspicious, untrusting, eccentric, needing to feel special, with a tendency to regard the world as an inherently dangerous place," Hart said. "They are also more likely to detect meaningful patterns where they might not exist.
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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1256 on: September 14, 2019, 02:42:44 AM »
Mr Cikljamas you show more of your own character by demeaning comments like "your damaged brain" and "your brain is going to be damaged beyond repair".
And don't look good for YOU!
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in 9/11 official story?
Your topic is "Rockets can't fly in a vacuum" and that question is irrelevant so I'll cross it out! Hope you don't mind!
But, who says that I do?

Quote from: cikljamas
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in authenticity of "moon landings"?
Your topic is "Rockets can't fly in a vacuum" but your "HOAX" bit seems to cover that.
I've seen no credible evidence from you, other that your use of deceptive "PhotoShopped" images, against the truth of the lunar landings.

Your apparent need to use obvious deception implies that even you aren't convinced you have a case!

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If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in HC theory?
Your topic is "Rockets can't fly in a vacuum" and that question is irrelevant so I'll cross it out! Hope you don't mind!
But I'll answer that as: For the simple reason that the Heliocentric Solar System is the only one that fits the evidence to date.

Quote from: cikljamas
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in "lone gunman" theory (JFK assassination)?
Your topic is "Rockets can't fly in a vacuum" and that question is irrelevant so I'll cross it out! Hope you don't mind!
But, who says that I do?

Quote from: cikljamas
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in theory of evolution?
Your topic is "Rockets can't fly in a vacuum" and that question is irrelevant so I'll cross it out! Hope you don't mind!
But, who says that I do?

Quote from: cikljamas
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in theory of relativity?
Your topic is "Rockets can't fly in a vacuum" and that question is irrelevant so I'll cross it out! Hope you don't mind!
If you want to discuss SR or GR then start a thread on that.

Quote from: cikljamas
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe in global warming theory?
Your topic is "Rockets can't fly in a vacuum" and that question is irrelevant so I'll cross it out! Hope you don't mind!
But, who says that I do?

Quote from: cikljamas
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe that something can come out of literally "nothing" (big bang theory)?
Your topic is "Rockets can't fly in a vacuum" and that question is irrelevant so I'll cross it out! Hope you don't mind!
But, who says that I do?

Quote from: cikljamas
If your brain is not seriously damaged then how can you believe that rockets can fly in a vacuum of space (perfect vacuum)?
For the simple reason that rockets flying in a vacuum of space (perfect vacuum is easily explain using well accepted and proved "laws of physics".

Quote from: cikljamas
If your brain were not seriously damaged would anyone feel the need to ask you the following questions :
You'll have to ask "anyone", not I!

But I have to wonder,  Mr Cikljamas, just who is brain damaged, you or I.

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1257 on: September 14, 2019, 03:23:02 AM »
I don’t remember seeing Sick Llamas in the past, but he does appear a true paladin of FE.
If you were not a genuine idiot, you just couldn't overlook what i posted on this very page in reply #1237 :
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2203639#msg2203639

All main-stream-9/11-official story-believers a.k.a. utter-idiots (like you) deliberately overlook (actually pretend that they are not aware of them/that they didn't see them (my numerous anti-FE posts)) countless strong protestations against those who promote FE idiotic theory, which numerous posts are disseminated throughout various threads on this very forum! Why so many scumbags like you play dumb regarding this important fact? Because they have very important agenda which is a special mission a.k.a. sinister plot a.k.a. very, very real conspiracy. I have explained many times how and why these low-life bastards are the greatest enemies of the truth. Last time i did it here : https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2200805#msg2200805 So, let me point out the following words once again, for those who by chance (not deliberately, as loafers like you do) failed to read them before :

Flat-earth stupidity revival was orchestrated by NASA guys. They organized it in a way that was going to produce the desired result : whenever someone mentions something about NASA fraudulent missions, or about the heliocentric hoax (which is a grandaddy of all deceptions in today's world) or about "evolution theory" hoax, or about Big-Bang idiocy, or about 9/11 inside job, or about NWO agenda, or about Kennedy assassination (which was an inside job, also), etc..., they instantly pull out from their asses "flat earth stupidity" saying : you see there is no essential difference between these guys (geocentrists-real truth seekers) and those who believe that the earth is flat (they instantly assign flat-earth label to all of them/us, in order to discredit every voice of reason in today's fucked up world)...

Give me the name of one (JUST ONE) prominent scientist (or well educated person) who lived in last 2 500 years or even christian theologian who ever lived (in last 2 000 years) on this earth who claimed that the earth is flat!!! JUST ONE NAME, can you do that??? The earth is motionless and in the center of the universe, but the earth isn't flat for God sake, what is wrong with you people? How about this (simple challenge) : If the earth were flat, then the flat earth map SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY EASY to make. Many have tried already, and all of them terribly failed. How hard is to infer (correctly) why no one can draw functional flat earth map WITH ABSOLUTE EASINESS on the flat sheet of paper??? If the earth is flat and flat sheet of paper is also flat all you have to do (to deal with) is to scale down the real face of the earth, isn't that so??? So, why don't you try to draw functional flat earth map? Why??? I'll tell you why : because it is absolutely impossible, that's why!
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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1258 on: September 14, 2019, 03:27:42 AM »
I don’t remember seeing Sick Llamas in the past, but he does appear a true paladin of FE.

New research by Josh Hart, associate professor of psychology, suggests that people with certain personality traits and cognitive styles are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. The research was recently published in the Journal of Individual Differences.

"These people tend to be more suspicious, untrusting, eccentric, needing to feel special, with a tendency to regard the world as an inherently dangerous place," Hart said. "They are also more likely to detect meaningful patterns where they might not exist.

If you were not a genuine idiot, you just couldn't overlook what i posted on this very page in reply #1237 :
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2203639#msg2203639

All main-stream-9/11-official story-believers a.k.a. utter-idiots (like you) deliberately overlook (actually pretend that they are not aware of them/that they didn't see them (my numerous anti-FE posts)) countless strong protestations against those who promote FE idiotic theory, which numerous posts are disseminated throughout various threads on this very forum! Why so many scumbags like you play dumb regarding this important fact? Because they have very important agenda which is a special mission a.k.a. sinister plot a.k.a. very, very real conspiracy. I have explained many times how and why these low-life bastards are the greatest enemies of the truth. Last time i did it here : https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82434.msg2200805#msg2200805 So, let me point out the following words once again, for those who by chance (not deliberately, as loafers like you do) failed to read them before :

Flat-earth stupidity revival was orchestrated by NASA guys. They organized it in a way that was going to produce the desired result : whenever someone mentions something about NASA fraudulent missions, or about the heliocentric hoax (which is a grandaddy of all deceptions in today's world) or about "evolution theory" hoax, or about Big-Bang idiocy, or about 9/11 inside job, or about NWO agenda, or about Kennedy assassination (which was an inside job, also), etc..., they instantly pull out from their asses "flat earth stupidity" saying : you see there is no essential difference between these guys (geocentrists-real truth seekers) and those who believe that the earth is flat (they instantly assign flat-earth label to all of them/us, in order to discredit every voice of reason in today's fucked up world)...

Give me the name of one (JUST ONE) prominent scientist (or well educated person) who lived in last 2 500 years or even christian theologian who ever lived (in last 2 000 years) on this earth who claimed that the earth is flat!!! JUST ONE NAME, can you do that??? The earth is motionless and in the center of the universe, but the earth isn't flat for God sake, what is wrong with you people? How about this (simple challenge) : If the earth were flat, then the flat earth map SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY EASY to make. Many have tried already, and all of them terribly failed. How hard is to infer (correctly) why no one can draw functional flat earth map WITH ABSOLUTE EASINESS on the flat sheet of paper??? If the earth is flat and flat sheet of paper is also flat all you have to do (to deal with) is to scale down the real face of the earth, isn't that so??? So, why don't you try to draw functional flat earth map? Why??? I'll tell you why : because it is absolutely impossible, that's why!

I did miss all that.

Sorry about that.
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cikljamas

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Re: HAPPY HOAX ANNIVERSARY!!! (Rockets can't fly in a vacuum)
« Reply #1259 on: September 14, 2019, 03:52:24 AM »

I did miss all that.

Sorry about that.
O.K., now just one little, simple, easy question for you :
Can you fathom how someone/anyone (whose brain in not damaged beyond repair) can miss ELEPHANT in the room? CAN YOU???
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