Yeah but the papers had very little to do with your subject and many of your links actually disprove flat earth... well played.
Still to move an object you need to talk about force not speed. Nobody is disputing that water vapour is being jettisoned, but what is the force of the jet, can it move a moon?
Even if it couldn't move a moon out of it's orbit around Saturn, it would certainly cause very substantial effect to the rate (speed) of it's rotation :
There is no appreciable change in the relative rotation between space and Earth. It is always 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4.1 seconds.
This is precisely why the geocentric system is more stable for us earthlings, whereas [color=purple]Venus has changed its rotation by 6 minutes over the years it has been studied[/color].
THE QUESTION No 1 :
Geokinetics is not the best way to understand the physics. In fact, the geocentric
system makes more sense. For example, in the geokinetic system, the Earth has to rotate
exactly 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4.1 seconds to keep sidereal time. How can it do so when so
many inertial forces (e.g., earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, etc.) are impeding its rotation?
Venus, which does rotate, has slowed its rate by 6 minutes in the last few years.
Likewise, in the geokinetic system, the Earth has to revolve around the sun exactly in 365.25
days. How does it do so in the face of the inertial forces it undergoes internally, as well as the
cosmic forces and planetary perturbations it incurs externally?
Geocentrism has a much better explanation. The sidereal rate can stay exactly as it is
due to the tremendous momentum that a massive rotating universe will produce. Like a giant flywheel,
the universe keeps turning at the same rate year after year, and nothing is able to slow it down.
(Later we will address the claims that the Earth has slowed its rotation).
As for Newton and Einstein, geocentrism can use both a rotating Earth in a fixed universe
or a fixed Earth in a rotating universe, if desired, since all we need to do is invert the equations, as Einstein himself did.
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In March 2007, it was found that the variation of radio emissions from the planet did not match Saturn's rotation rate. This variance may be caused by geyser activity on Saturn's moon Enceladus. The water vapor emitted into Saturn's orbit by this activity becomes charged and creates a drag upon Saturn's magnetic field, slowing its rotation slightly relative to the rotation of the planet.
THE QUESTION No 2 :
If variations in Saturn's rotation rate can be assigned (at least theoretically) to geyser activity of Enceladus, what consequence should we expect (from the same cause - geyser activity) to the rate of rotation of Enceladus itself??? Extreme consequences???
Wiki quote :
Enceladus is tidally locked with Saturn, keeping the same face toward the planet. It completes one orbit every 32.9 hours within the densest part of Saturn's E Ring.
THE QUESTION No 3 :
If variations in Saturn's rotation rate can be assigned (at least theoretically) to geyser activity of Enceladus, and if it is more than reasonably to assume that geyser activity would have extreme consequences to the rate of rotation of Enceladus itself, isn't it more than reasonably to assume that Enceladus in these circumstances couldn't remain tidally locked with Saturn due to it's changed rate of rotation?
As I noted earlier, there is no appreciable change in the relative rotation between
space and Earth. It is always 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4.1 seconds. This is precisely why the
geocentric system is more stable for us earthlings, whereas Venus has changed its rotation by
6 minutes over the years it has been studied.
Invariably, when major earthquakes or tsunamis occur we are inundated with newspaper
articles declaring that the Earth, as a result of the force coming from these catastrophes, was
slowed in its rotation rate and/or its axis moved. The rotation rate is said to decrease by
microseconds and the axial tilt by inches. The 2011 tsunami that hit Japan produced numerous
articles. This one is from the New York Times:
The magnitude-8.9 earthquake that struck northern Japan on Friday not only violently shook
the ground and generated a devastating tsunami, it also moved the coastline and changed the
balance of the planet.
...Meanwhile, NASA scientists calculated that the redistribution of mass by the earthquake
might have shortened the day by a couple of millionths of a second and tilted the Earth’s axis
slightly. On a larger scale, the unbuckling and shifting moved the planet’s mass, on average,
closer to its center, and just as a figure skater who spins faster when drawing the arms closer,
the Earth’s rotation speeds up.
Richard S. Gross, a scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, calculated that the length of the day
was shortened by 1.8 millionths of a second.
The earthquake also shifted the so-called figure axis of the Earth, which is the axis that the
Earth’s mass is balanced around. Dr. Gross said his calculations indicated a shift of 6.5 inches in
where the figure axis intersects the surface of the planet. That figure axis is near, but does not
quite align with, the rotational axis that the Earth spins around.
Earlier great earthquakes also changed the axis and shortened the day. The magnitude-8.8
earthquake in Chile last year shortened the day by 1.26 millionths of a second and moved the
axis by about three inches, while the Sumatra earthquake in 2004 shortened the day by 6.8
millionths of a second, Dr. Gross said.
From the Jet Propulsion Laboratory report, Gross and Chao added more:
Dr. Richard Gross of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., and Dr. Benjamin Fong
Chao, of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md., said all earthquakes have some
affect on Earth’s rotation. It’s just they are usually barely noticeable.
“Any worldly event that involves the movement of mass affects the Earth’s rotation, from
seasonal weather down to driving a car,” Chao said. Gross and Chao have been routinely
calculating earthquakes’ effects in changing the Earth’s rotation in both length-of-day as well
as changes in Earth’s gravitational field. They also study changes in polar motion that is shifting
the North Pole. The “mean North pole” was shifted by about 2.5 centimeters (1 inch) in the
direction of 145 degrees East Longitude. This shift east is continuing a long-term seismic trend
identified in previous studies.
All of this sounds very technical and convincing, but we shall go through it line by line to
determine its validity. First, if we add up all the earthquakes occurring on an annual basis,
there are on average 1,450,000 per year. About 90% are in the 2 – 2.9 Rictor scale range;
about 9% in the 3 to 3.9 range; and the rest between the 4 to 9.
Let’s say for the sake of argument about 25,000 significant earthquakes occur per year that affect
the Earth’s rotation and figure axis the way Dr. Gross claims. Let’s say we take the estimates back
10,000 years to 8000 BC. That means 250 million noticeable earthquakes occurred since 8000 BC.
Let’s also assume, based on present data, that Earth’s rotation changes by 0.5 microseconds for
significant earthquakes. This means the Earth would have changed its rotation by 125 seconds
or 2.08 minutes since 8000 BC. If we go beyond 8000 BC to 108,000 BC, we now have the
rotation of the Earth decreased by 20.8 minutes, which yields a rotation of 23 hours, 36.2
minutes. If we use 1 million years, it lessens the rotation by about 200 minutes. If 10 million:
2000 minutes. If 100 million: 20,000 minutes. If 200 million, then 40,000 minutes, which
means the Earth would have been rotating in about 12 hours. Anything beyond 86,400
minutes, the Earth will rotate once every second or less.
If we use 4.5 billion years (which is
the time modern science says the Earth has been in existence), the Earth would be spinning
about 10 times every second.