Satellites follow a path around the globe

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mightyfletch

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2019, 09:22:34 PM »
So, back to the original point, at night you can look up outside and watch low-earth orbiting satellites pass across the sky.  You can time them and connect to them.  It's all verifiable.  You can see the International Space Station in orbit.  I've done it. 

Just go get the ISS HD Live app.  You can wait for the ISS to pass overhead and go look at it.  What else do you need for proof?
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Look up in the sky, it's a bird, no, it's a plane, no, it's the International Space Station!

Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2019, 10:04:27 PM »
This is just one of many things that FE says is either a fake or a lie that you can actually verify is true simply by observing it for yourselves.

There are also websites  that will tell you where and when to look for the ISS in your location.

On one visit to one of the night sky parties at the Mc Donald Observatory an object passed overhead for a brief second or two..
You would have probably missed this if the tour director didn't know where and when to spot it exactly and point it out to those in the sky party .

I would highly recommend a visit to any astronomical Observatory and especially  if they have those sky party type things going on after dark.
Especially for RE's.
FE's would probably be afraid to go because they might shatter any belief in a.flat earth.
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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2019, 11:46:19 PM »
We have clearly heard a "plop" then rocet does magically stop!

The "plop" was activation of the yo-yo despinner, then it stopped the rocket spin.

How the rocket didn't smash the nose at the "dome hit" ? hehehe

And for yo-yo despinner, here is your chance to further educate yourself:




"Smart is not who knows. Smart is who learns."

It stops both spin and forward motion.  Why can not you say its stopping the forward motion? Why do you need lying? Or why do not tell the all truth and tell a part of it (you think so) ? Because you need manipulation. Your needing manipulation proves that there is a dome and it has crashed it.
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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2019, 12:49:15 AM »
We have clearly heard a "plop" then rocet does magically stop!

The "plop" was activation of the yo-yo despinner, then it stopped the rocket spin.

How the rocket didn't smash the nose at the "dome hit" ? hehehe

And for yo-yo despinner, here is your chance to further educate yourself:




"Smart is not who knows. Smart is who learns."

It stops both spin and forward motion.  Why can not you say its stopping the forward motion? Why do you need lying? Or why do not tell the all truth and tell a part of it (you think so) ? Because you need manipulation. Your needing manipulation proves that there is a dome and it has crashed it.
No, the rocket stops spinning but it does not stop climbing!

The video you show ends just after the yoyo de-spin and does not show the rest of the ascent.
But look carefully at the following video you will find that it stops spinning but it does not stop ascending!


SpaceLoft-7 launch and de-spin video

The time of de-spin is at T + 55.8 secs and 212,500 ft (about 65 km) and Mach 3.3 (still rising very fast!)
           and the apogee at T + 165 secs and 119 km.
The rocket climbs another 54 km after yo-yo de-spin stops the spinning at 65 km altitude.

Those rockets do not hit any dome!

In this post shows the search for the nose-cone after it came down by parachute and that was not damaged by hitting any dome.
           Re: SpaceX rocket launch? Reply #13 on: January 03, 2019, 02:37:04 PM .

And here is the nose-cone after it came down by parachute:

Rocket intact after claimed hitting of the "Dome".

That rocket do not hit any dome!

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2019, 12:51:21 AM »
We have clearly heard a "plop" then rocet does magically stop!

The "plop" was activation of the yo-yo despinner, then it stopped the rocket spin.

How the rocket didn't smash the nose at the "dome hit" ? hehehe

And for yo-yo despinner, here is your chance to further educate yourself:




"Smart is not who knows. Smart is who learns."

It stops both spin and forward motion.  Why can not you say its stopping the forward motion? Why do you need lying? Or why do not tell the all truth and tell a part of it (you think so) ? Because you need manipulation. Your needing manipulation proves that there is a dome and it has crashed it.

Seriously? Enough Wise. The rocket stops spinning because of a device that makes it stop spinning. It didn't hit a dome as the guy who made the original video claiming the rocket hit a dome made another video (all linked here in the thread) saying, yeah, he was mistaken, it didn't hit a dome.

So enough. If you got something satellites and stuff you want to lay down, have at it. But enough with your rocket/dome video bullshit. It's old. Can we move on?

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2019, 01:28:56 AM »
We have clearly heard a "plop" then rocet does magically stop!

The "plop" was activation of the yo-yo despinner, then it stopped the rocket spin.

How the rocket didn't smash the nose at the "dome hit" ? hehehe

And for yo-yo despinner, here is your chance to further educate yourself:




"Smart is not who knows. Smart is who learns."

It stops both spin and forward motion.  Why can not you say its stopping the forward motion? Why do you need lying? Or why do not tell the all truth and tell a part of it (you think so) ? Because you need manipulation. Your needing manipulation proves that there is a dome and it has crashed it.

Seriously? Enough Wise. The rocket stops spinning because of a device that makes it stop spinning. It didn't hit a dome as the guy who made the original video claiming the rocket hit a dome made another video (all linked here in the thread) saying, yeah, he was mistaken, it didn't hit a dome.

So enough. If you got something satellites and stuff you want to lay down, have at it. But enough with your rocket/dome video bullshit. It's old. Can we move on?

A device like that can't stop it. in order to do so, the mass of the part separated must be much greater. its mass is too small to be compared to the rocket and cannot produce the required torque.

And you globalists still have not an explanation how forward motion of rocket has stopped magically.
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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2019, 02:08:33 AM »
We have clearly heard a "plop" then rocet does magically stop!

The "plop" was activation of the yo-yo despinner, then it stopped the rocket spin.

How the rocket didn't smash the nose at the "dome hit" ? hehehe

And for yo-yo despinner, here is your chance to further educate yourself:




"Smart is not who knows. Smart is who learns."

It stops both spin and forward motion.  Why can not you say its stopping the forward motion? Why do you need lying? Or why do not tell the all truth and tell a part of it (you think so) ? Because you need manipulation. Your needing manipulation proves that there is a dome and it has crashed it.

Seriously? Enough Wise. The rocket stops spinning because of a device that makes it stop spinning. It didn't hit a dome as the guy who made the original video claiming the rocket hit a dome made another video (all linked here in the thread) saying, yeah, he was mistaken, it didn't hit a dome.

So enough. If you got something satellites and stuff you want to lay down, have at it. But enough with your rocket/dome video bullshit. It's old. Can we move on?

A device like that can't stop it. in order to do so, the mass of the part separated must be much greater. its mass is too small to be compared to the rocket and cannot produce the required torque.

And you globalists still have not an explanation how forward motion of rocket has stopped magically.

Oh sweet mary and saint joseph! Seriously?

A) That was the weakest 'Wise' rebuttal ever. When have you ever used the word 'device'? And followed by a mumble of mass, parts, small parts, no torque...
B) B (yes, double 'B'), The yoyo spin stopped it. It's a thing, a real thing in rocket stuff. You saw the video by the guy who made the video originally in favor of the video for a dome, but then was still maybe in favor of the dome, but declared...That your rocket did not hit a dome. So stop it so we can all go home and dispense with this nonsense. Thank you. Good luck and goodnight.

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2019, 02:08:49 AM »
We have clearly heard a "plop" then rocet does magically stop!

The "plop" was activation of the yo-yo despinner, then it stopped the rocket spin.

How the rocket didn't smash the nose at the "dome hit" ? hehehe

And for yo-yo despinner, here is your chance to further educate yourself:




"Smart is not who knows. Smart is who learns."

It stops both spin and forward motion.  Why can not you say its stopping the forward motion? Why do you need lying? Or why do not tell the all truth and tell a part of it (you think so) ? Because you need manipulation. Your needing manipulation proves that there is a dome and it has crashed it.

Seriously? Enough Wise. The rocket stops spinning because of a device that makes it stop spinning. It didn't hit a dome as the guy who made the original video claiming the rocket hit a dome made another video (all linked here in the thread) saying, yeah, he was mistaken, it didn't hit a dome.

So enough. If you got something satellites and stuff you want to lay down, have at it. But enough with your rocket/dome video bullshit. It's old. Can we move on?
A device like that can't stop it. in order to do so, the mass of the part separated must be much greater. its mass is too small to be compared to the rocket and cannot produce the required torque.
Incorrect!
It is not simply mass of the yo-yo despin device compared to the mass of the rocket
but the moment of inertia of the yo-yo despin device compared to the moment of inertia of the rocket.
"For a point mass the moment of inertia is just the mass times the square of perpendicular distance to the rotation axis, I = mr2."

Here read this:
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Yo-yo de-spin

A yo-yo de-spin mechanism is a device used to reduce the spin of satellite, typically right after launch. It is basically two lengths of cable with weights on the ends. The cables are wrapped around the final stage and/or satellite, in the manner of a double yo-yo. When the weights are released, the spin of the rocket flings them away from the spin axis. This transfers enough angular momentum to the weights to reduce the spin of the satellite to the desired value. The weights are often released.

De-spin is needed since some final stages are spin-stabilized, and require fairly rapid rotation (perhaps 50 rpm) to keep stable during firing (See, for example, the Star 48, a solid fuel rocket motor.) After the firing, the satellite cannot be simply released, since such a spin rate is beyond the capability of the satellite attitude control to cope with. Therefore after the rocket firing but before satellite release, the yo-yo weights are used to reduce the spin rates to something the satellite can handle (often 2-5 RPM).

As an example of yo-yo de-spin, on the Dawn Mission, roughly 3 kg of weights, and 12 meter cables, reduce the initial spin rate of 1420 kg of spacecraft from 36 RPM down to 3 RPM in the other direction[1]. The relatively small weights can have such a large effect since they are far from the axis of the spin, and their effect grows as the square of the length of the cables.
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And you globalists still have not an explanation how forward motion of rocket has stopped magically.
Because the forward motion of rocket has not stopped suddenly. The rocket continues ascending many kilometers after the despin device is deployed.

Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2019, 02:43:12 AM »
Why can not you say its stopping the forward motion?
Because that is a blatant lie and unlike you we care about the truth.

It does not stop its forwards motion.
Again if you wish to claim it does you need to explain how the ground magically shrinks.

The rest of your comment seems to be addressed to yourself.


A device like that can't stop it. in order to do so, the mass of the part separated must be much greater. its mass is too small to be compared to the rocket and cannot produce the required torque.
Good job showing you either don't understand torque or are happy to lie about it as well.

The wonderful thing about torque is that a small mass can produce a large torque by being a large distance away from the centre of rotation.
In contexts like this, a 1 kg mass located 100 cm away from the centre of rotation will result in the same torque as a 100 kg mass located 1 cm from the axis of rotation.
So initially when close the weights do basically nothing, but as they get further out they do a lot more to stop the rocket spinning.

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2019, 03:05:11 AM »
It does not stop its forwards motion.
So what does stop its forward motion, why do not you have an explanation? Since you have not an explanation hence You have accepted the rocket hits the sky dome.
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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2019, 03:18:00 AM »
It does not stop its forwards motion.
So what does stop its forward motion, why do not you have an explanation? Since you have not an explanation hence You have accepted the rocket hits the sky dome.

The forward motion is not stopped. Can you explain how the rocket does not explode on impact with the dome?
I tried so hard, and got so far. But in the end, I fell off the edge. I had to fall, to lose it all, but in the end, I still fell of the edge.

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rabinoz

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2019, 05:04:32 AM »
It does not stop its forwards motion.
So what does stop its forward motion, why do not you have an explanation? Since you have not an explanation hence You have accepted the rocket hits the sky dome.
There is no RabBlack! Stop changing the contents you quotes. Altering posts like this is simply dishonest and proves that you have no answer to the points raised.

YOU know very well that neither JackBlack nor myself, RABinOZ accepted the rocket hits the sky dome.

Look what I (RABinOZ) wrote!
Because the forward motion of rocket has not stopped suddenly. The rocket continues ascending many kilometers after the despin device is deployed.

Does that sound as though I accept that "accepted the rocket hits the sky dome."

If you cannot post honestly pease do not bother posting at all.

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2019, 05:18:47 AM »
We have clearly heard a "plop" then rocet does magically stop!

The "plop" was activation of the yo-yo despinner, then it stopped the rocket spin.

How the rocket didn't smash the nose at the "dome hit" ? hehehe

And for yo-yo despinner, here is your chance to further educate yourself:




"Smart is not who knows. Smart is who learns."

It stops both spin and forward motion.  Why can not you say its stopping the forward motion? Why do you need lying? Or why do not tell the all truth and tell a part of it (you think so) ? Because you need manipulation. Your needing manipulation proves that there is a dome and it has crashed it.

Calling people "liars" when you don't like truth is not honest.

Forward motion slowed down and stopped because the propulsion ended.

Did you expect it to continue endlessly?
Did you expect your "Dome" at 73 miles already?
Intercontinental balistic missiles would hit it every single time.

People here already asked:
If the nose really hit something, why it was not smashed?
Hitting something at that speed would make the nose break or flat like a pancake, it wouldn't still be pointy as new.

Now tell us who is the real liar here?

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The missile flew for approximately 40 minutes, falling 930 km (580 mi) away from the launch site in the Sea of Japan.
The missile, named the Hwasong-14, reached an altitude of 2,802 km (1,741 mi).
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I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2019, 06:09:40 AM »
The "plop" was activation of the yo-yo despinner, then it stopped the rocket spin.

How the rocket didn't smash the nose at the "dome hit" ? hehehe

And for yo-yo despinner, here is your chance to further educate yourself:
Forward motion slowed down and stopped because the propulsion ended.

Repeating same lies does not make them stronger, just makes you a part of conspiracy. So you have lost your being amateur and started to fight to death like other angry globalists do here.

Yo-yo despinner does not magically create a great force to do it. It just has been discovered to explanation that event.

And your telling its slow down and stop is completely lie. We clearly heard a plup and it has stopped in same second. Stop lie, grow up and deal with flat earth truth. I can tell you truth but I can not recover your infidelity to a belief.
boydster the angry globalist being a mod is my red line. During he continues to be mod, others will be ignored till infinity.






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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2019, 06:12:21 AM »
<here we go again CAPS CAPS AND MORE CAPS>
I don't read and reply writings contain many caps and different type of writing style. It is both disrespecting, ugly for readers and distractor. You have to give up this childish behaviour. You are doing it because you have the support of boydster the angry globularist here, never targets you and waits to attack me mercilesly. There is not an argument in your post to reply.
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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2019, 06:18:24 AM »
Hey wise, still waiting for you to show me pictures of ground stations...

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2019, 01:41:02 PM »
The "plop" was activation of the yo-yo despinner, then it stopped the rocket spin.

How the rocket didn't smash the nose at the "dome hit" ? hehehe

And for yo-yo despinner, here is your chance to further educate yourself:
Forward motion slowed down and stopped because the propulsion ended.

Repeating same lies does not make them stronger, just makes you a part of conspiracy. So you have lost your being amateur and started to fight to death like other angry globalists do here.

Yo-yo despinner does not magically create a great force to do it. It just has been discovered to explanation that event.

And your telling its slow down and stop is completely lie. We clearly heard a plup and it has stopped in same second. Stop lie, grow up and deal with flat earth truth. I can tell you truth but I can not recover your infidelity to a belief.

It stopped spinning, didn't hit anything.
The nose is intact and you saw it.
Be honest at least to yourself.

The North Korean Intercontinental Balistic Missile reached the altitude of 1741 miles, which is 1668 miles higher than your "dome at 73 miles".
Kim knows that, Trump knows that, You know that.

But you still call everyone else "liars" just to avoid the truth.
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
The main goal in all that is simplicity.

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mightyfletch

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2019, 01:51:35 PM »
The "plop" was activation of the yo-yo despinner, then it stopped the rocket spin.

How the rocket didn't smash the nose at the "dome hit" ? hehehe

And for yo-yo despinner, here is your chance to further educate yourself:
Forward motion slowed down and stopped because the propulsion ended.

Repeating same lies does not make them stronger, just makes you a part of conspiracy. So you have lost your being amateur and started to fight to death like other angry globalists do here.

Yo-yo despinner does not magically create a great force to do it. It just has been discovered to explanation that event.

And your telling its slow down and stop is completely lie. We clearly heard a plup and it has stopped in same second. Stop lie, grow up and deal with flat earth truth. I can tell you truth but I can not recover your infidelity to a belief.

It stopped spinning, didn't hit anything.
The nose is intact and you saw it.
Be honest at least to yourself.

The North Korean Intercontinental Balistic Missile reached the altitude of 1741 miles, which is 1668 miles higher than your "dome at 73 miles".
Kim knows that, Trump knows that, You know that.

But you still call everyone else "liars" just to avoid the truth.

Seriously.  FEers don't want to do the experiments themselves, they don't trust anyone else, and they can only explain their theories with unobservered and unexplainable ficticious forces.  A flat Earth is a magic Earth.
Look up in the sky, it's a bird, no, it's a plane, no, it's the International Space Station!

Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2019, 02:25:14 PM »
Repeating same lies does not make them stronger, just makes you a part of conspiracy.
Well thanks for admitting you are part of a conspiracy.
How much are you being paid to shill for FE?
Who is paying you?

We clearly heard a plup and it has stopped in same second.
No, it hasn't.
Again, if it hit a dome it would disintigrate.

By footage we can see that one of 2 things has to happen after the yo-yo despin mechanism stopped it spinning.
1 - It magically stops and the ground magically starts shrinking.
2 - It continues upwards so perspective makes the ground appear smaller (or more technically the features on the ground).

So which is the more plausible one? Magic upon magic, or the sane option of it continuing as there was nothing to stop it, and the greater distance making the features on the ground appear smaller?

If you want to assert it has magically stopped you need to show evidence that it has.
I have provided evidence that it has not.

And you have no grounds to talk about respect. You don't respect any of us. You repeatedly lie about us and repeatedly ignore what is said, repeating the same lie again and again regardless of how many times it has been refuted.
Respect is a 2 way street. If you want anyone to respect you then you need to start showing other people respect. That includes actually reading and responding to what they say rather than lying about what they say and actually addressing the points rather than ignoring them and repeating the same lies.

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #49 on: July 24, 2019, 03:23:46 AM »
Well thanks for admitting you are part of a conspiracy.
No, I did not tell it at all. This is a lie and slander. Stop it. I am not you.
<insulting>How much are you being paid to shill for FE?</insulting>
Stop to insult. It does not make your illogical arguments stronger.
<insulting>Who is paying you?</insulting>
Ask this question when you look at a mirror.
Again, if it hit a dome it would disintigrate.
As far as we see it, didn't disintegrate. Your baseless claim does not magically change the fact that it stops instantly.Everything that stops immediately does not need to be broken down. This is an example of it. The spider web is so. the animal stops immediately when hits, but they do not crumble until the spider eats them. Your illogical claim does not magically save an animal caught in a spider web.
<more baseless claims>
This is not moderators like I do, because they whose your partners want I spend all my time for your worthless claims. I think your behave proves what is your aim. You are only trying to cause me waste of time with baseless claims, insults and meanwhile claims of I insult you by acting more sensitive than a pink pillow.
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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #50 on: July 24, 2019, 05:04:23 AM »
No, I did not tell it at all. This is a lie and slander. Stop it. I am not you.
You stated that doing the actions that you have been doing here means you are part of a conspiracy.
So I'm not the one lying here.

As far as we see it, didn't disintegrate.
That's the point.

If it hit a dome, it would disintegrate.
It didn't disintegrate, thus it did not hit a dome.

Your baseless claim does not magically change the fact that it stops instantly.
Prove it or shut up.
I have conclusively proven that it did not stop instantly.
You have done absolutely nothing to rationally counter that. Instead all you have done is repeatedly assert the same lie that it did magically stop.

Where is your proof that it stopped instantly?
How do you explain the ground appearing to shrink if it stopped?

Dismissing/ignoring these facts does not help your case, it just shows you have no case.

Everything that stops immediately does not need to be broken down.
No, the velocity and size/mass of the object play a big role.
If a 1 cm object is only travelling at 1 m per year then it can easily stop instantly without breaking apart.
But if a much larger object, travelling much faster stopped instantly, it would.
That is because of the momentum of the object moving is enough to overcome the strength of the material holding the object together.

I think your behave proves what is your aim.
Yes, it shows that I care about the truth and you want you to either admit the truth or at the least stop lying.

The video footage clearly shows the ground appearing to get smaller. The only sane explanation for this is that the rocket continues moving upwards.
If you want to claim the rocket magically stops, and care about the truth at all, you need to deal with this.

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #51 on: July 24, 2019, 06:07:17 AM »
Well thanks for admitting you are part of a conspiracy.
No, I did not tell it at all. This is a lie and slander. Stop it. I am not you.
<insulting>How much are you being paid to shill for FE?</insulting>
Stop to insult. It does not make your illogical arguments stronger.
<insulting>Who is paying you?</insulting>
Ask this question when you look at a mirror.
Again, if it hit a dome it would disintigrate.
As far as we see it, didn't disintegrate. Your baseless claim does not magically change the fact that it stops instantly.Everything that stops immediately does not need to be broken down. This is an example of it. The spider web is so. the animal stops immediately when hits, but they do not crumble until the spider eats them. Your illogical claim does not magically save an animal caught in a spider web.
<more baseless claims>
This is not moderators like I do, because they whose your partners want I spend all my time for your worthless claims. I think your behave proves what is your aim. You are only trying to cause me waste of time with baseless claims, insults and meanwhile claims of I insult you by acting more sensitive than a pink pillow.
I showed in an earlier post that the rocket did not stop immediately but carried on climbing for a great distance before coming to a stop due to gravity and then falling back down undamaged.

So if you think it stopped suddenly prove it!

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #52 on: July 24, 2019, 06:43:05 AM »
Well thanks for admitting you are part of a conspiracy.
No, I did not tell it at all. This is a lie and slander. Stop it. I am not you.
<insulting>How much are you being paid to shill for FE?</insulting>
Stop to insult. It does not make your illogical arguments stronger.
<insulting>Who is paying you?</insulting>
Ask this question when you look at a mirror.
Again, if it hit a dome it would disintigrate.
As far as we see it, didn't disintegrate. Your baseless claim does not magically change the fact that it stops instantly.Everything that stops immediately does not need to be broken down. This is an example of it. The spider web is so. the animal stops immediately when hits, but they do not crumble until the spider eats them. Your illogical claim does not magically save an animal caught in a spider web.
<more baseless claims>
This is not moderators like I do, because they whose your partners want I spend all my time for your worthless claims. I think your behave proves what is your aim. You are only trying to cause me waste of time with baseless claims, insults and meanwhile claims of I insult you by acting more sensitive than a pink pillow.
I showed in an earlier post that the rocket did not stop immediately but carried on climbing for a great distance before coming to a stop due to gravity and then falling back down undamaged.

So if you think it stopped suddenly prove it!

It quite simple to get it stops immediately. Your showing anything in your mind isn't a proof. Proof and showing different things, get it? This is a proof, not a showing like you do. You are seing it, comes, plup, then opps! Stops in a flash! This is an obvious proof. Get the difference?

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #53 on: July 24, 2019, 07:00:59 AM »
You stated that doing the actions that you have been doing here means you are part of a conspiracy.
No! Lie! I have stated that doing the actions that you have been doing here means you are part of a conspiracy. Do you know better than what I said, or do I know it better? Surely, I know my words better than you. So stop to do manipulate my words in your wrong benefits.
So I'm not the one lying here.
As I have proved above you are the liar in this example, manipulating my words and changing them for your own ugly globalist benefits.
If it hit a dome, it would disintegrate.
Nope, it would not. And the video proves it should not disintegrate. It is dome, so has different type of material. Hence it acts different other than materials you know in the earth.
It didn't disintegrate, thus it did not hit a dome.
Your can't understand why he did not disintegrate does not magically it not hit the dome. It just proves you can't get it.
Prove it or shut up.
I have already proved above, the dome has different material hence acts different. It stops objects without disintegrate them. Now you how has to shut up. Bye bye.
I have conclusively proven that it did not stop instantly.
You have proven your not having anything about structure of dome.
You have done absolutely nothing to rationally counter that. Instead all you have done is repeatedly assert the same lie that it did magically stop.
I think I have did more than you write it. Your denying the clear evidences does not magically make them dis apperar. They are exist, just you are closing your eyes.
Where is your proof that it stopped instantly?
Here:


Did you heard the "plup?". It crashes the dome then immediately stops at that moment.
How do you explain the ground appearing to shrink if it stopped?
Sorry, I have missed somebody has proved ground's going to shrink. Wait, I did not miss, nobody has proved its being shrinked. Stop talk baseless.
Dismissing/ignoring these facts does not help your case, it just shows you have no case.
Having not enough time you jobless angry globularists isn't a proof of anything. You are attacking like an angry hyena gang attack an alone lion all the flat earthers, we can not find to respond all your statements, then you declare yourself the winners of any debating. You are clearly deceiving yourselves only. And all fair readers will be aware of this fact. You are constantly opening new statements, rabinoz and others are constantly insulting. And I have with a great calm can reply all the statements. You are like a gang, just you need to be fair. If your gang would be God believers would act fair. Since all you globalist gang are atheists here have not an idea about how you can be fair.
No, the velocity and size/mass of the object play a big role.
If a 1 cm object is only travelling at 1 m per year then it can easily stop instantly without breaking apart.
But if a much larger object, travelling much faster stopped instantly, it would.
That is because of the momentum of the object moving is enough to overcome the strength of the material holding the object together.
Your theory does not work on sky dome. Its structure is different. However the object was, it stops it when come vertical.
Yes, it shows that I care about the truth and you want you to either admit the truth or at the least stop lying.
No, it shows you don't care the truth at all. Otherwise your atheist angry globalist gang could give me enough time to reply you. But you are 3-5 or sometimes 6 person are asking different type of questions to cause me a time problem; then I have already not enough time to reply you then you are declaring yourself is the winner of any discussing. This is not about truth, we see. This is about the ego of your team. You are doing it as a punishment and torturing methods to believers. I resist them like how followers resiswted to tortures of infidels. 2000 years have passed but behave of infidels do not change.
The video footage clearly shows the ground appearing to get smaller. The only sane explanation for this is that the rocket continues moving upwards.
Nope. It does not show. Your imagination does not turn to the truth.
If you want to claim the rocket magically stops, and care about the truth at all, you need to deal with this.
I have dealed with it and defeated it. Your closing your eyes can not change this fact.
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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #54 on: July 24, 2019, 09:01:27 AM »
How come when you show us footage, we immediately have to believe it or your interpretation of it, but when somebody shows some video or photo that is proof for a round earth, you discard it as fake?

With that being said, I'd like it if the topic goes on the subject that mightyfletch started it with. Now it is heading to a "yes/no" conversation.
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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #55 on: July 24, 2019, 01:18:23 PM »
How come when you show us footage, we immediately have to believe it or your interpretation of it, but when somebody shows some video or photo that is proof for a round earth, you discard it as fake?

With that being said, I'd like it if the topic goes on the subject that mightyfletch started it with. Now it is heading to a "yes/no" conversation.

Opposite of it true too. You just need to do an empathy. Whenever I forward an argument instantly takes an objection, whether objection was true or wrong. Yo-yo spin theory has developed in two years ago, as a defence of category this video. the science of something is formed completely. You can't produce something you don't know. these people say: "we produced it, we didn't know yo-yo spin when producing it. That's what they do. The yo-yo spin was fabricated because we objected. yo-yo spin is no-no.
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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #56 on: July 24, 2019, 01:41:25 PM »
Weather satellite imagery is easily verifiable by looking up in the sky.  You can see when clouds are about to clear out on those inages taken from orbit. Those satellites have to follow orbital mechanics or they would crash into the Earth.  They barely have enough fuel to make minor course corrections, let alone power to stay aloft.

You have made a point that has been repeated ad-nausium on this site. There are a number of simple experiments that any flat earther could carry out if they really had the desire to know the truth, but it looks like they don't. That is the real issue here. The fact that satellites exist is beyond argument and is not really open for any sensible debate as they can be clearly seen with nothing more than a pair of binoculars, clear sky and an app giving you know the exact time of flyover. The ISS, in particular, is easily seen if you are in the right place at the right time with good conditions. To argue it doesn't exist is tantamount to denying reality.
Other clearly and easily observed issues like Polaris not being visible in the southern hemisphere or the fact that the moon is upside down when viewed in the southern hemisphere as compared to the view in the Northern. Flat earther continue to preach the value of the Zetetic approach, seeing is believing, yet few if any actually demonstrate this approach, based on posts in some of the discussions on this site....that is apart from the old chestnut "the earth looks flat when I look out my window", ergo the earth is flat!

Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #57 on: July 24, 2019, 01:51:11 PM »
your magical satellites have never been observed. you spend millions of dollars to send each satellite into space. but you don't put a $ 1000 camera in any of them to prove its existence. Is it convincing? Nope.

Your statement is false for a number of reasons. Satellites are easily observed with nothing more than a pair of binoculars, just go outside on a clear night using one of the many tracking apps, it's easy to prove, they are easy to see, unlike your fictitious dome that no one has seen!  Many satellites have a whole range of sensing equipment including cameras. Images are regularly posted every day, particularly from weather satellites.
I think the problem is many flat earther, like yourself, have no option but to deny their existence rather than spending some time to find out the truth, which is pretty simple.

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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #58 on: July 24, 2019, 02:20:27 PM »
your magical satellites have never been observed. you spend millions of dollars to send each satellite into space. but you don't put a $ 1000 camera in any of them to prove its existence. Is it convincing? Nope.

Your statement is false for a number of reasons. Satellites are easily observed with nothing more than a pair of binoculars, just go outside on a clear night using one of the many tracking apps, it's easy to prove, they are easy to see, unlike your fictitious dome that no one has seen!  Many satellites have a whole range of sensing equipment including cameras. Images are regularly posted every day, particularly from weather satellites.
I think the problem is many flat earther, like yourself, have no option but to deny their existence rather than spending some time to find out the truth, which is pretty simple.

Your claiming satellites getting observed in a way or other can not been observed by any of our friends, nor a flat earther. Is it they are being visible only to some spesific globalists?

When our friends try to see the satellites then we see nothing but some weird objects.



Can you create a video like this and proves your satellites' existance in somewhere?
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Re: Satellites follow a path around the globe
« Reply #59 on: July 24, 2019, 02:43:41 PM »
No! Lie! I have stated that doing the actions that you have been doing here means you are part of a conspiracy.
No you didn't.
This was your quote:
Repeating same lies does not make them stronger, just makes you a part of conspiracy.
And you have been repeating the same lies that the rocket hits a dome and that it stops instantly.
Both of these are outright lies as has been explained repeatedly.

So according to you, you repeating them makes you part of the conspiracy.

This is not manipulating your words. It is just noticing and pointing out that your words apply to you.

Nope, it would not. And the video proves it should not disintegrate.
The only way it "proves" it wouldn't, is by making a bunch of baseless assumptions involving assuming that it wouldn't and assuming the ground would magically start shrinking.

As the rocket did not hit any dome in this footage, it does not prove anything about hitting a dome.

Meanwhile, this footage shows quite clearly what a high speed impact would do:


It quite simple to get it stops immediately.
Again, prove it.

You claiming the footage proves it stops does nothing.
Hearing a sound isn't proving it stopped. It no longer spinning is not proof it has stopped.
You haven't even attempted to prove it has stopped.
So far all you have done is just repeatedly assert that it stops.

Again, the footage clearly shows it is continuing to go upwards, unless you want to claim the ground is magically shrinking.

All that happens is it stops spinning.

Sorry, I have missed somebody has proved ground's going to shrink.
You mean you intentionally ignored it because it shows you are wrong.

Here is a frame from the footage almost immediately after the despin mechanism is deployed.

The red line in this image is ~118 pixels long.
Here is a frame a short while later:

The red line, covering the same feature as before, is now only ~98 pixels long.
So either the ground has shrunk, quite significantly, or the rocket has moved further away, quite significantly.

Going to deal with it this time? Or will you continue to ignore it and continue to claim that the rocket stops instantly and ignore the fact the ground does appear to get smaller?

Your theory does not work on sky dome. Its structure is different.
It's structure is irrelevant. What is important is the structure of the rocket and your claim that it stops instantly, which you pretty much need to explain the rapid deceleration as it stops spinning.
This would mean only the very tip of the rocket was interacting with the dome when the rocket stopped. Unless your dome is pure magic.

Otherwise your atheist angry globalist gang could give me enough time to reply you.
You have been given plenty of time, and you just repeat the same nonsense.
You brought up this nonsense back in 2016.
People pointed out all the problems back then.

So you have had over 1.5 years to come up with answers, yet you just keep repeating the same nonsense.

This is not about truth, we see.
For you maybe, but for me it is about the truth.
The truth is that the rocket does not hit a dome, nor does it stop instantly.
All that happens is that it stops spinning.

Whenever I forward an argument instantly takes an objection
Only the ones which are completely wrong.
You are yet to provide an argument that can withstand scrutiny.

Yo-yo spin theory has developed in two years ago
No, a yo-yo despin mechanism has existed for a very long time.
Here is a patent on one from 1980:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4350315A/

So no, it hasn't been started as a defence to your nonsense.
It is a very real thing which was developed to make quickly spinning objects stop spinning.
It was used on the rocket so they could get nice footage after the powered section of flight without needing to worry about keeping the rocket from spinning the entire way.

Your claiming satellites getting observed in a way or other can not been observed by any of our friends, nor a flat earther. Is it they are being visible only to some spesific globalists?
You are yet to demonstrate anyone being unable to see them.

Your videos showing people who don't know how to use a camera failing to focus on objects is proof of nothing.

Where is your timelapse video of the night sky looking towards the equator?

As for providing footage, we have provided plenty, and you then just dismiss it as fake.
Stop asking for what you never intend to accept.