Hello Flat Earthers,
in this thread I would like you to describe any experiment/observation you have made yourself that shows evidence of a flat earth. Please describe your experiment/observation in detail, and why you think it shows an inconsistency to the 'globe model'.
Thank you
There are very few experiments documented by flat earthers. The only ones I have come across are jumping off a chair or throwing a ball to prove UA, how both these ‘experiments’ prove UA I’m nor exactly sure, but as UA is not really supported on this forum I suppose they don’t count.
From reading quite a bit of output from flat earth believers they are not big on experiments to support their own beliefs rather they are more into looking for what they consider ‘flaws’ in conventional science. It is these ‘flaws’ that they use to support what they believe.
For example; there are quite a few grey and hazy areas associated with gravity, a fact that is undeniable, however they use this knowledge gap as some kind of proof for their own beliefs and as ‘proof’ gravity doesn’t exist.
This coupled with their belief in a global conspiracy is what they use to justify their stance on all flat earth beliefs.
Come on! Give credit where credit is due
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One of the few actual "measurements" done by Flat Earthers is where Sandokhan looked at a photo of a solar eclipse in Antarctica and wrote:
Distance from the Earth to the Moon ? Ham Radio vs. Flat Earth Measurements. « Reply #136 on: May 08, 2013, 01:50:37 AM »
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A single photograph is enough to shatter any RE illusions:
(Fred Bruenjes, Antarctica, 2003)
No 384,000 km between the Moon and the Earth, not by a long shot.
The Moon and Sun both orbit at an altitude of some 15 km above the Earth.
And Rowbotham did a "real True Distance of the Sun" measurement. (See the link for details of how it was done.)
CHAPTER V. THE TRUE DISTANCE OF THE SUN.
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so that it is perfectly safe to affirm that the under edge of the sun is considerably less than 700 statute miles above the earth.
From Zetetic Astronomy, by Samuel Birley Rowbotham, CHAPTER V. THE TRUE DISTANCE OF THE SUN.
Note that Rowbotham claims "that it is perfectly safe to affirm that the under edge of the sun is
considerably less than 700 statute miles above the earth".
Then around 1899,
Thomas Winship, author of Zetetic Cosmogony makes some assumptions based on
Globe measurements.
He then provides a calculation demonstrating that the sun can be computed to be relatively close to the earth's surface if one assumes that the earth is flat:
On March 21-22 the sun is directly overhead at the equator and appears 45 degrees above the horizon at 45 degrees north and south latitude. As the angle of sun above the earth at the equator is 90 degrees while it is 45 degrees at 45 degrees north or south latitude, it follows that the angle at the sun between the vertical from the horizon and the line from the observers at 45 degrees north and south must also be 45 degrees. The result is two right angled triangles with legs of equal length. The distance between the equator and the points at 45 degrees north or south is approximately 3,000 miles. Ergo, the sun would be an equal distance above the equator.
This is illustrated in this diagram from
Modern Mechanics - Oct, 1931:
Voliva's Flat Earth Sun Distance. This is also shown in the
TFES.org Wiki under
Distance to the Sun under the section
Sun's Distance - Modern Mechanics.
Then we have
Eratosthenes on Distance of the Sun
Eratosthenes' stick experiment can not only tell us about the size of the earth, but can also be used to compute the distance to the sun as well.
In his experiment, Eratosthenes assumes that the earth is a globe and that the sun is very far away in his computations for the size of the earth and the distance to the sun. However, if we use his data with the assumption that the earth is flat we can come up with a wildly different calculation for the distance of the sun, showing it to be close to the earth. The sun changes its distance depending on the model of the earth we assume for the experiment.
Eratosthenes noted that the sun was overhead in Cyene (modern Aswan) but cast a shadow at an angle of
one-fiftieth part of a circle (or 7.2°) at Alexandria, 800 km North, the modern value.
Using these values the sun's height above the earth comes out to
800/tan(7.2°) or 6333 km (3936 miles)
See, we have some flat earth measurements of the height of the sun above the earth:
- Sandokhan: 15 km or 9.3 miles.
- Rowbotham: not more than 700 statute miles (1130 km).
- Thomas Winship/Voliva: approximately 3000 miles (4800 km).
- Eratosthenes' "stick experiment": 6333 km (3936 miles).
Take your pick.
I've said elsewhere that it's a pity that flat earthers didn't really understand perspective, physics and astronomy - but if they did there probably wouldn't be any flat earthers.