All of the good things Trump has done.

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All of the good things Trump has done.
« on: June 24, 2019, 01:49:38 PM »
I knew if I waited long enough then Trump will have used his power for something objectively good.  I think that day might have come.  That or I'm temporarily too stupid to see an obvious scam.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/06/24/735432387/trump-administration-pushes-to-make-health-care-pricing-more-transparent

Now if he just signs an executive order to get rid of daylight savings time we'll be in business.
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2019, 01:55:25 PM »
I hope he is right that health care prices will go down. Whether they do or not, I agree this is something good.
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2019, 02:16:05 PM »
I hope he is right that health care prices will go down. Whether they do or not, I agree this is something good.

I work at a pharmacy, and it is ridiculous what the cost of drugs is. There are some companies that make both the brand and generic version of the drug; the exact same pill; one day stamp them brand and the next stamp them generic. The cheapest insulins are over 200 dollars a bottle.
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2019, 06:16:19 PM »
It appears, at least, to not be blatantly self-serving in the way that the vast majority of his other policy decisions are.

He is, of course, absolutely positive that his executive order = transparency = market competition = "Pricing will come down by numbers that you wouldn't believe. The cost of healthcare will go way, way down." Because he has demonstrated that his thinking is always that simplistic. This is a complex market, and experts in these complex issues are split over whether it will lower prices at all, or raise them, much less "way, way down."

That's not to say that it won't help. It is certainly worth the effort to implement to see if it does. That is a good thing for Americans having to navigate the health care system.

If it doesn't work, he always has the out that HHS didn't implement it properly. And if it does work, despite it being a very complex problem that expert economists can't predict, he'll crow about how smart he is and how he did it all himself and knew absolutely that it would work.

But yes, this is a reasonable direction to try. I hope it works. I haven't the faintest idea if it will.

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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2019, 07:16:38 PM »
I hope he is right that health care prices will go down. Whether they do or not, I agree this is something good.

I work at a pharmacy, and it is ridiculous what the cost of drugs is. There are some companies that make both the brand and generic version of the drug; the exact same pill; one day stamp them brand and the next stamp them generic. The cheapest insulins are over 200 dollars a bottle.

Here you go...   http://www.pbs.gov.au/pbs/search?term=insulin
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2019, 11:10:21 AM »
I hope he is right that health care prices will go down. Whether they do or not, I agree this is something good.

I work at a pharmacy, and it is ridiculous what the cost of drugs is. There are some companies that make both the brand and generic version of the drug; the exact same pill; one day stamp them brand and the next stamp them generic. The cheapest insulins are over 200 dollars a bottle.

Here you go...   http://www.pbs.gov.au/pbs/search?term=insulin

Not sure what that link was meant for.

Edit: Nevermind, it's Australia's prices.
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2019, 12:07:55 AM »
Honestly everyone in the US should be really pissed that you don't have universal healthcare and better free public hospitals. There would be no need of constant half measures that somewhat alleviate things. If everyone else can do it the US can do it too.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2019, 08:07:10 AM »
Honestly everyone in the US should be really pissed that you don't have universal healthcare and better free public hospitals. There would be no need of constant half measures that somewhat alleviate things. If everyone else can do it the US can do it too.

But we would then be susceptible to that horrific and deadly disease, "socialism." A fate worse than death to many true 'Merkins.

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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2019, 09:00:16 AM »
Free healthcare isn't socialism, so maybe that will calm people down!
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2019, 11:01:58 AM »
Free healthcare isn't socialism, so maybe that will calm people down!

In 'Merka, that is definitely how it is viewed.

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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2019, 11:10:54 AM »
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2019, 12:40:21 PM »
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2019, 08:24:49 AM »
Here is a story that sort of flew under the radar but I think is interesting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/trump-advisers-pursue-democratic-drug-price-ideas-as-campaign-looms/2019/07/02/5d21319a-9846-11e9-8d0a-5edd7e2025b1_story.html?utm_term=.1b63ea0303a9

Trump made a campaign promise to lower drug prices.  So he appointed a former drug company executive to make that happen.  Obviously the opposite happened.  Trump is unhappy about this.

At a Jan. 6 Camp David meeting, Trump fumed about Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, whom he had charged with lowering drug prices, according to three people with knowledge of the conversation. Two days later in the Oval Office, a nervous Azar, who had just returned from vacation, detailed the intricacies of what he was doing to lower prices, leaving the president bored and impatient, according to people close to the situation.

“I don’t understand a word you’re saying,” Trump interrupted. “And no one else will, either.”


It seems that Trump had good intentions about this but he's been surrounded by pharma bros and he's too stupid to figure out why that's a problem.  I wonder how different his presidency would be if he weren't building his worldview around Fox News.
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2019, 01:11:57 AM »
If Trump were to use his "Best deals" skills to get a national insulin store so diabetics could buy cheap insulin, that would be great.


Also, American culture is not ready for universal health care.  Americans hate each other and have too much "No one helps me so why should you get help?" to want to help anyone via taxes.
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2019, 12:45:03 PM »
https://time.com/5624359/trump-kidney-care-executive-order/

My grandma's kidneys failed and she was on dialysis for two years before she died. She hated it so much. It would have been so much better if she could have had treatment at home. I hope he can make this happen! 
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2019, 01:03:41 PM »
It seems oddly specific and an executive order is a weird way to go about it but I hope it moves things in a good direction.

Home healthcare is a very good thing both psychologically and medically.  The longer you're in a hospital the more nasty infections you get.
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2019, 07:53:59 AM »


Okay.  Been a few months but here's another thing that falls under the good category.  The leader of Isis is dead, which I was under the impression was Barack Obama but that's besides the point.  His speech was, um, very weird.  But it happened under his watch so credit to Trump.
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2019, 01:14:00 PM »
The leader of Isis is dead...

Or is he?
Russia Expresses ‘Valid Doubts About Reality and Success’ of U.S. ISIS Raid on Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

The Russian Federation’s military said on Sunday that it had “valid doubts” about whether ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed in the U.S. raid.

Raw Story reports: “In a speech from the White House on Sunday, Trump first thanked Russia for its assistance in the raid. According to Trump, Russia had allowed U.S. aircraft into its airspace to conduct the operation. But later on Sunday, the Russian military indicated that it was unaware of the raid, according to BBC reporter Steve Rosenberg. A spokesperson for the Russian military said there were ‘valid doubts about the reality & success’ of the U.S. operation.”

Said the Russian defense ministry, according to Rosenberg: “We are not aware of any assistance having being given to US Air Force flights into the air space of the Idlib de-escalation zone in this operation…”
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2019, 03:38:58 PM »
I haven't watched Trump's speech,  but good riddance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2019, 04:28:10 PM »
The leader of Isis is dead...

Or is he?
Russia Expresses ‘Valid Doubts About Reality and Success’ of U.S. ISIS Raid on Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

The Russian Federation’s military said on Sunday that it had “valid doubts” about whether ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed in the U.S. raid.

Raw Story reports: “In a speech from the White House on Sunday, Trump first thanked Russia for its assistance in the raid. According to Trump, Russia had allowed U.S. aircraft into its airspace to conduct the operation. But later on Sunday, the Russian military indicated that it was unaware of the raid, according to BBC reporter Steve Rosenberg. A spokesperson for the Russian military said there were ‘valid doubts about the reality & success’ of the U.S. operation.”

Said the Russian defense ministry, according to Rosenberg: “We are not aware of any assistance having being given to US Air Force flights into the air space of the Idlib de-escalation zone in this operation…”

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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2019, 02:26:51 AM »
I haven't watched Trump's speech,  but good riddance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

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Maybe it's 'cause this is like the 8th time he dies.
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2019, 04:04:44 AM »
Favorite relevant meme:



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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2019, 04:20:06 AM »
How is what working out again?
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2019, 12:40:44 AM »


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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2019, 05:25:00 AM »
The US space program is in less of a mess now than it was under Obama.
Im a fan of stuff in space, so Ill give Trump that one.
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2019, 05:58:22 AM »
it is the same thing to watch space-related things and to finance terrorism. When you stop watching NASA, white toyotas will stop carrying terrorists.
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« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2019, 06:36:14 AM »
it is the same thing to watch space-related things and to finance terrorism. When you stop watching NASA, white toyotas will stop carrying terrorists.

Terrorists existed before NASA.
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Re: All of the good things Trump has done.
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2019, 06:45:44 AM »
Actually, the reasons why the space program is less of a mess is because they decided to rely LESS on NASA and more on commercial partners. Im not sure how this relates to terrorism in your book though.
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