Water and spinning ball

A lot of blabbering and nothing else.
Water adhering to a ball without falling off. 

Gravity!

Have you not heard of it?  You’ve been here long enough.

Quote from: sceptimatic on June 24, 2019, 05:26:46 AM

A lot of blabbering and nothing else.
Water adhering to a ball without falling off. 

Gravity!

Have you not heard of it?  You’ve been here long enough.

Whatity? Maybe you mean whoaity or Gayarity? It maybe relevant with our Gayer, Gayerity! 

It seems like something stuck to the earth surface, has a name Glueity or Bondity.

insists on not leaving five thousand meters of ocean water. but it is very forgiving to pigeon of not interfering with him at any time to fly. Its name may be contradivity.

He is an older member can find better names than these.

Two domers that cant have gravity co exist in their reality.

A lot of blabbering and nothing else.
Water adhering to a ball without falling off. 

If all water falls off, then why the ball remains wet?

Whatity? Maybe you mean whoaity or Gayarity? It maybe relevant with our Gayer, Gayerity! 

It seems like something stuck to the earth surface, has a name Glueity or Bondity.

What would pull the water off the Earth?
(Or maybe water would go by its own will?)

Quote from: wise on June 24, 2019, 09:59:37 AM

Whatity? Maybe you mean whoaity or Gayarity? It maybe relevant with our Gayer, Gayerity! 

It seems like something stuck to the earth surface, has a name Glueity or Bondity.

What would pull the water off the Earth?
(Or maybe water would go by its own will?)

According to which theory?

A lot of blabbering and nothing else.

Yes, that does seem to be all you have.
It is a shame you can't provide any form of rational argument.

Like I said, the topic of this thread is if the Earth spinning should cause the water to fly off.
All the math shows that it wouldn't.
All the math shows that spinning a tiny ball at 1000 mph is in no way a valid comparison.


And like I have already said plenty of times, if you want to focus on the water just adhering to the ball, you would need to take it outside of Earth's roche limit, as Earth is not within the roche limit of any larger body. Doing the test on Earth by holding a ball well within Earth's roche limit is in no way a valid comparison to Earth, just like spinning a tiny ball so its equator moves at 1000 archaic units per hour is in no way a valid comparison to Earth's rotation.

You not liking that wont change the facts and it wont make your experiment any less garbage.


You have provided no reason for the water to not stick to Earth.

Quote from: Macarios on June 24, 2019, 11:49:46 AM

Quote from: wise on June 24, 2019, 09:59:37 AM

Whatity? Maybe you mean whoaity or Gayarity? It maybe relevant with our Gayer, Gayerity! 

It seems like something stuck to the earth surface, has a name Glueity or Bondity.

What would pull the water off the Earth?
(Or maybe water would go by its own will?)

According to which theory?

According to the assumption that water would fall off the Earth.
What would pull it off?

Quote from: Unconvinced on June 24, 2019, 08:36:46 AM

Quote from: sceptimatic on June 24, 2019, 05:26:46 AM

A lot of blabbering and nothing else.
Water adhering to a ball without falling off. 

Gravity!

Have you not heard of it?  You’ve been here long enough.

Whatity? Maybe you mean whoaity or Gayarity? It maybe relevant with our Gayer, Gayerity! 

It seems like something stuck to the earth surface, has a name Glueity or Bondity.

insists on not leaving five thousand meters of ocean water. but it is very forgiving to pigeon of not interfering with him at any time to fly. Its name may be contradivity.

He is an older member can find better names than these.

If gravity didn't interfere with the pigeon then it wouldn't have to flap its wings, or even have wings at all. I guess we can add lift to the long list of things you don't understand.

According to the assumption that water would fall off the Earth.
What would pull it off?

Nothing because Earth is not a globe; rotating or otherwise.

And there is no reality of a pull, it's all push on push.
So, to answer your question by using a ball and water on it, the atmosphere squeezes, pushes that water down against resistance to that water by atmosphere below, except the above atmosphere, plus the water is too great and so it falls to the ground.

In fake space with the fake vacuum in your adhered to universe, you have a ball that spins and water doesn't fall off because of a fictional unknown made up force.

The amazing thing about all of this is, if you ask a person if they'd like a ball of soup or a bowl of soup, they would say, a bowl of soup then drop their brow and ask you how in the hell can you offer a ball of soup, to which you can say, " oh I thought I'd put your soup on a ball because it's no different to a bowl in holding that soup, in the world I know."


And yet people actually go along with this stuff. It absolutely beggars belief as an adult but is understandable for a child to fall for the nonsense.

Quote from: Macarios on June 24, 2019, 03:26:27 PM

According to the assumption that water would fall off the Earth.
What would pull it off?

Nothing because Earth is not a globe; rotating or otherwise.

No, you don't simply get to state that "Earth is not a globe; rotating or otherwise" without adequate evidence.
If gravitation is real then the earth must be near spherical because gravitation would pull any other large finite body, except a torus, into a near sphere.

And there is voluminous experimental evidence for gravitation acting as though mass attracts mass.
Have a look at: GRAVITY PROOF « Reply #109 on: August 27, 2018, 08:56:40 AM »

The issue could be also tackled from the other end.
If the earth is near spherical then gravitation must be a real thing because otherwise air, water and things like us would fall off.
And there is plenty of evidence for the earth being near spherical from ships disappearing,  North and South star rotation to sunrises and sunsets plus much more.

So you must either show that the earth is not near spherical or that gravitation is not real - you can't just state these things.

" oh I thought I'd put your soup on a ball because it's no different to a bowl in holding that soup, in the world I know."

The Earth is close enough to pull that soup off that ball. Don't pretend you didn't know that.

Nothing because Earth is not a globe; rotating or otherwise.

No, Earth is a globe, which is rotating.
If you wish to assert it isn't and expect anyone to take you seriously, you will need vastly more than your pathetic baseless claim.
Earth has been proven to be a globe beyond any sane doubt.
It has been proven to be rotating beyond any sane doubt.

Why would the water fall off Earth if it was a ball? (Happy, phrased in a way that you can answer it without admitting reality).
You are yet to substantiate that in any way.

And there is no reality of a pull, it's all push on push.

Pulling on a rope proves that to be nonsense.
It is also completely unrelated to the topic.

So, to answer your question by using a ball and water on it, the atmosphere squeezes, pushes that water down against resistance to that water by atmosphere below, except the above atmosphere, plus the water is too great and so it falls to the ground.

So Earth would have water be pushed by the atmosphere to the ground?
The complete opposite of what you were saying. That means it would stick to Earth, not fall off.

As for your denpressure BS thrown in, that is still just unsubstantiated BS.
The pressure below is greater than the pressure above which should push the water upwards.
There is absolutely no reason for air to push water downwards.
So if you want to assert that the air magically pushes the water down you will need to back that up as well.

And before you assert that is wrong, you need gravity acting on the air to sustain that pressure gradient. That gravity would hold the water to Earth.

So no reason for the water to fly off Earth, spinning or otherwise.

In fake space with the fake vacuum in your adhered to universe, you have a ball that spins and water doesn't fall off because of a fictional unknown made up force.

The only one appealing to fake space here is you.
We have real space, with real forces, which you reject because it doesn't fit into your fantasy world.

And yet people actually go along with this stuff. It absolutely beggars belief as an adult but is understandable for a child to fall for the nonsense.

Yes, because they realise your claims are BS.
Again, Earth isn't a tiny ball being held up above a much larger ball.
As such, your comparison to holding a ball is complete garbage.
Sane people realise this. Why can't you?

Quote from: wise on June 24, 2019, 02:00:48 PM

Quote from: Macarios on June 24, 2019, 11:49:46 AM

Quote from: wise on June 24, 2019, 09:59:37 AM

Whatity? Maybe you mean whoaity or Gayarity? It maybe relevant with our Gayer, Gayerity! 

It seems like something stuck to the earth surface, has a name Glueity or Bondity.

What would pull the water off the Earth?
(Or maybe water would go by its own will?)

According to which theory?

According to the assumption that water would fall off the Earth.
What would pull it off?

Again, According to which theory? I mean flat or globularist theories. Which theory are you referring when you ask this question?

Quote from: Macarios on June 24, 2019, 03:26:27 PM

According to the assumption that water would fall off the Earth.
What would pull it off?

Again, According to which theory? I mean flat or globularist theories. Which theory are you referring when you ask this question?

Reality would be a good place to start.

Quote from: Macarios on June 24, 2019, 03:26:27 PM

Quote from: wise on June 24, 2019, 02:00:48 PM

Quote from: Macarios on June 24, 2019, 11:49:46 AM

Quote from: wise on June 24, 2019, 09:59:37 AM

Whatity? Maybe you mean whoaity or Gayarity? It maybe relevant with our Gayer, Gayerity! 

It seems like something stuck to the earth surface, has a name Glueity or Bondity.

What would pull the water off the Earth?
(Or maybe water would go by its own will?)

According to which theory?

According to the assumption that water would fall off the Earth.
What would pull it off?

Again, According to which theory? I mean flat or globularist theories. Which theory are you referring when you ask this question?

Let me make it simple enough fr you to understand.
Go slowly, step by step:

1. Flat Earthers promote their theory that "if the Earth was globe the water would fall off". (Where to?)

Understand? Can we continue with the next step?

2. You obviously accepted that theory when you were trying to mock the claim about gravity.

When that sinks in you can keep reading.

3. The question I asked is about that theory was: Why would water fall off? What would pull it?

Before you call the whole world ignorant, ask yourself if there was any sane answer to that question.

Let me make it simple enough fr you to understand.

You can tell it as easy as possible can explain it. I get you in a way or other. But I think answering "you mean flat or round" was easier to tell than you do now. Anyways. I'll follow with a bit geting fun of it, sorry. 

Go slowly, step by step:

Like New kids on the block says, step by step, it is good for you tell your problem.

1. Flat Earthers promote their theory that "if the Earth was globe the water would fall off". (Where to?)
Understand? Can we continue with the next step?

Sure.

2. You obviously accepted that theory when you were trying to mock the claim about gravity.

I obviously deny the gravity hoax. because I am not an ignorant.

When that sinks in you can keep reading.

I don't understand why I need to sink anywhere. Gravity was absent, gravity currently is absent and will continue to be absent next too.

3. The question I asked is about that theory was: Why would water fall off? What would pull it?

I am asking same question. According to which theory? Because we flat earthers deny the gravity. Stop to childish claims caused by misunderstandings. It is obviously that gravity isn't exist.

I am asking again. Which theory do you consider when you ask this question? Because one of them depends on gravity and the other does not.

Before you call the whole world ignorant, ask yourself if there was any sane answer to that question.

Since you have still not corrected your silly question to a sane one; you are still ignorant.

I am asking again. Which theory do you want I use for answer your question? Is it a hard question?

Quote from: wise on June 26, 2019, 01:40:26 AM

Quote from: Macarios on June 24, 2019, 03:26:27 PM

According to the assumption that water would fall off the Earth.
What would pull it off?

Again, According to which theory? I mean flat or globularist theories. Which theory are you referring when you ask this question?

Reality would be a good place to start.

I guess he has intended the flat earth but I've asked it to be sure. So you've agreed its being flat.

Because we flat earthers deny the gravity.

... and you still don't offer any explanation what pulls things "down".

You mention "weight" and you already know that "weight" is a force.
It is your theory, and now you still ask "what theory".
In that theory you are running away from the very cause of that force.

My question is: What causes that force?
(What pulls the water?)

Quote from: rabinoz on June 26, 2019, 01:53:32 AM

Reality would be a good place to start.

I guess he has intended the flat earth but I've asked it to be sure. So you've agreed its being flat.

No I did not agree to any shaped earth. I just wanted to know "in reality" what would make the water run off a Globe.

Quote from: wise on June 26, 2019, 04:33:57 AM

Because we flat earthers deny the gravity.

... and you still don't offer any explanation what pulls things "down".

You mention "weight" and you already know that "weight" is a force.
It is your theory, and now you still ask "what theory".
In that theory you are running away from the very cause of that force.

My question is: What causes that force?
(What pulls the water?)

I've combined your posts because you are both asking same thing.

I will reply but I want to be sure, because you've yet answered my question. So you are asking your question depends on flat earth theory, right?

So if the Earth were sitting on an enormous mass, comparable to the scale relationship between a basketball and our planet, all the water would certainly "fall off".

But it's not.

These wet tennis ball analogies are ridiculous.

Quote from: Macarios, rabinoz on June 26, 2019, 05:18:46 AM

Quote from: wise on June 26, 2019, 04:33:57 AM

Because we flat earthers deny the gravity.

... and you still don't offer any explanation what pulls things "down".

You mention "weight" and you already know that "weight" is a force.
It is your theory, and now you still ask "what theory".
In that theory you are running away from the very cause of that force.

My question is: What causes that force?
(What pulls the water?)

I've combined your posts because you are both asking same thing.

I will reply but I want to be sure, because you've yet answered my question. So you are asking your question depends on flat earth theory, right?

I cannot answer for Macarios but I simply want to know what you think would cause the water to run off a spherical earth.
No "theories", no complications, just why would the water run off.

Quote from: wise on June 26, 2019, 06:26:13 AM

Quote from: Macarios, rabinoz on June 26, 2019, 05:18:46 AM

Quote from: wise on June 26, 2019, 04:33:57 AM

Because we flat earthers deny the gravity.

... and you still don't offer any explanation what pulls things "down".

You mention "weight" and you already know that "weight" is a force.
It is your theory, and now you still ask "what theory".
In that theory you are running away from the very cause of that force.

My question is: What causes that force?
(What pulls the water?)

I've combined your posts because you are both asking same thing.

I will reply but I want to be sure, because you've yet answered my question. So you are asking your question depends on flat earth theory, right?

I cannot answer for Macarios but I simply want to know what you think would cause the water to run off a spherical earth.
No "theories", no complications, just why would the water run off.

So you are asking me something I don't accept its existance. if what you're building on is wrong, so the result is wrong. You are asking same question but I guess he mean flat earth theory when ask it. So; how can I reply two of your questions are same, but depends on different theories. When I put forward anything depends on any theory then you talk about other.

Be one. I have added your thought as voting.

1 vote used so far and you have asked water falling depend on round theory.

I'll wait for what theory does macarios mean when he ask about water fall down.

be honest. either write as a single person or be consistent. one of you asks a question according to one theory and the other answers depends on the other theory. I can't keep track of which theory you speak at any moment. I do not have such a task. Grow up and leave childish behavior.

So you are asking me something I don't accept its existance.

What they are asking is very easy to understand.

Many FEers will claim that Earth can't be round because the water would fall off.

Can you explain why, if Earth was round, water would fall off it.
Not using RE theory. Not using FE nonsense.
Using reality.

Explain what would cause the water to fall off.

For an object on Earth having water fall off is quite easy, it is getting drawn down to Earth.

But if Earth is a ball in space, what is there to make the water fall off?

Quote from: rabinoz on June 26, 2019, 02:51:52 PM

Quote from: wise on June 26, 2019, 06:26:13 AM

Quote from: Macarios, rabinoz on June 26, 2019, 05:18:46 AM

Quote from: wise on June 26, 2019, 04:33:57 AM

Because we flat earthers deny the gravity.

... and you still don't offer any explanation what pulls things "down".

You mention "weight" and you already know that "weight" is a force.
It is your theory, and now you still ask "what theory".
In that theory you are running away from the very cause of that force.

My question is: What causes that force?
(What pulls the water?)

I've combined your posts because you are both asking same thing.

I will reply but I want to be sure, because you've yet answered my question. So you are asking your question depends on flat earth theory, right?

I cannot answer for Macarios but I simply want to know what you think would cause the water to run off a spherical earth.
No "theories", no complications, just why would the water run off.

So you are asking me something I don't accept its existance. if what you're building on is wrong, so the result is wrong. You are asking same question but I guess he mean flat earth theory when ask it. So; how can I reply two of your questions are same, but depends on different theories. When I put forward anything depends on any theory then you talk about other.

I did not ask you to accept a spherical earth.
I simply want to know what you think would cause the water to run off a spherical earth.
No "theories", no complications, just why would the water run off.

You have already said:

The earth moves with 1670 km/h. There is a layer of gigantic atmosphere on it as the world moves.

And

Since we have agreed flying off a spinning ball proves the Earth can't rotate.

And

Quote from: rabinoz on June 14, 2019, 12:33:21 AM

I've verified that the rotation of the earth will not cause "the oceans/water" to "just spin off the earth."

Your verification by yourself does not magically the oceans water stay without spin around the earth.

So you seem to insist that the water and the atmosphere would be thrown off the earth.

Now explain it or better prove it!

Well this proves that education is very important, especially for flat earthers. First of all, there is no up and down in space. That's why water cant fall. Also what do you mean by water holding up on a spinning ball? There is no force to pull the water of the Earth,so it can't just "fall" in space.. Duh. Obvious physics, but we don't expect for you to understand it.

Well this proves that education is very important, especially for flat earthers. First of all, there is no up and down in space. That's why water cant fall. Also what do you mean by water holding up on a spinning ball? There is no force to pull the water of the Earth,so it can't just "fall" in space.. Duh. Obvious physics, but we don't expect for you to understand it.

It's strange how you globalists argue that helium is lost to space.

Make up your minds because the globe is a story of fiction that you and others have bought into because that story was generally the only story you were allowed to absorb.

So, about your education. I class education as being taught something that is a truth so you can go on applying that truth to whatever you choose in life.
If your globe is a total lie, which I'm certain in my own logical mind, that it is, then who's being educated?
I'd say your education on this matter is called, deep brainwashing at a young age that is extremely difficult to free yourself from.
Why?
Stockholm like syndrome.

Quote from: rabinoz on June 17, 2019, 05:36:02 AM

If you disagree with this:

Quote

Put simply the molecules that make up the atmosphere do not have a high enough thermal velocity to reach the escape velocity from the earth's gravitational field.
So the earth does not lose atmosphere apart from a little "blown off" by the solar wind.

Show where I am wrong!

You have already know its being wrong so want me prove its being wrong, right?

Thermal velocity absolutely isn't anything can keeps hold atmosphere magically. You've prove it by technically other than claiming it baseless.

I did not anywhere say that "Thermal velocity . . . keeps hold of the atmosphere"!
I said that thermal velocity is what tries to make the atmosphere leave the earth but it cannot because it does not exceed the escape velocity of earth.

If you do not have enough physics training to understand that please admit it and say that you do not know.
Trying to bluff you way out of this does not work because I have enough understanding of physics to understand a bit of this stuff!

So, I repeat:
If you disagree with this:

Put simply the molecules that make up the atmosphere do not have a high enough thermal velocity to reach the escape velocity from the earth's gravitational field.
So the earth does not lose atmosphere apart from a little "blown off" by the solar wind.

Show where I am wrong!

Quote from: rze on June 28, 2019, 02:22:29 PM

Well this proves that education is very important, especially for flat earthers. First of all, there is no up and down in space. That's why water cant fall. Also what do you mean by water holding up on a spinning ball? There is no force to pull the water of the Earth,so it can't just "fall" in space.. Duh. Obvious physics, but we don't expect for you to understand it.

It's strange how you globalists argue that helium is lost to space.

No, it is NOT strange if you understand a little about thermal velocity and escape velocity!
Helium and hydrogen are such light gasses that they have higher thermal velocities than nitrogen and oxygen etc and so more atoms of helium and molecules of hydrogen escape.

What so hard or strange about that?