Quote from: markjo on July 11, 2019, 09:55:02 AMQuote from: Romp on July 11, 2019, 09:46:01 AMQuote from: markjo on July 11, 2019, 07:00:57 AMQuote from: Romp on July 11, 2019, 05:00:03 AMUsing jet engined planes for the argument, and apologies if this has been used before and missed it, but:- If the plane's jet engines are pushing against air.They aren't. Jet engines use the mass of the air passing through the engine as the reaction mass against the engine itself.Jet engines create thrust. Just like rockets. Tatumsid's argument is that rockets and therefore jet engine's as well push off against the air.In case you haven't been keeping up, Tatumsid's argument about jets and rockets pushing off against air is wrong, and really quite silly if you think it through.Indeed. I just can't get my head around how anyone thinks rockets aren't able to work in space.
Quote from: Romp on July 11, 2019, 09:46:01 AMQuote from: markjo on July 11, 2019, 07:00:57 AMQuote from: Romp on July 11, 2019, 05:00:03 AMUsing jet engined planes for the argument, and apologies if this has been used before and missed it, but:- If the plane's jet engines are pushing against air.They aren't. Jet engines use the mass of the air passing through the engine as the reaction mass against the engine itself.Jet engines create thrust. Just like rockets. Tatumsid's argument is that rockets and therefore jet engine's as well push off against the air.In case you haven't been keeping up, Tatumsid's argument about jets and rockets pushing off against air is wrong, and really quite silly if you think it through.
Quote from: markjo on July 11, 2019, 07:00:57 AMQuote from: Romp on July 11, 2019, 05:00:03 AMUsing jet engined planes for the argument, and apologies if this has been used before and missed it, but:- If the plane's jet engines are pushing against air.They aren't. Jet engines use the mass of the air passing through the engine as the reaction mass against the engine itself.Jet engines create thrust. Just like rockets. Tatumsid's argument is that rockets and therefore jet engine's as well push off against the air.
Quote from: Romp on July 11, 2019, 05:00:03 AMUsing jet engined planes for the argument, and apologies if this has been used before and missed it, but:- If the plane's jet engines are pushing against air.They aren't. Jet engines use the mass of the air passing through the engine as the reaction mass against the engine itself.
Using jet engined planes for the argument, and apologies if this has been used before and missed it, but:- If the plane's jet engines are pushing against air.
Quote from: Romp on July 12, 2019, 04:33:05 AMQuote from: markjo on July 11, 2019, 09:55:02 AMQuote from: Romp on July 11, 2019, 09:46:01 AMQuote from: markjo on July 11, 2019, 07:00:57 AMQuote from: Romp on July 11, 2019, 05:00:03 AMUsing jet engined planes for the argument, and apologies if this has been used before and missed it, but:- If the plane's jet engines are pushing against air.They aren't. Jet engines use the mass of the air passing through the engine as the reaction mass against the engine itself.Jet engines create thrust. Just like rockets. Tatumsid's argument is that rockets and therefore jet engine's as well push off against the air.In case you haven't been keeping up, Tatumsid's argument about jets and rockets pushing off against air is wrong, and really quite silly if you think it through.Indeed. I just can't get my head around how anyone thinks rockets aren't able to work in space.By starting with the idea that pictures of the Earth from space are fake, and working backwards attempting to find reasons to justify it?