The Force from Underground against Helium

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Danang

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The Force from Underground against Helium
« on: June 30, 2019, 05:10:12 AM »
Not only helium, H2O etc are struck upwards by matters coming from under the earth surface. You may call the matters as 'electrones' or whatever.

Does it make sense?  8)

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Re: The Force from Underground against Helium
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2019, 05:38:19 AM »
Not only helium, H2O etc are struck upwards by matters coming from under the earth surface. You may call the matters as 'electrones' or whatever.

Does it make sense?  8)
Why not?

Most helium comes mixed with natural gas and is recovered by fractional distillation.
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Chemistry of Helium, Occurrence and production

Helium is one of the most abundant elements in the universe. Large quantities are produced in the energy-producing fusion reactions in stars. Previously, helium was rarely used, because only .0004% of Earth's atmosphere is helium—that equates to one helium molecule for every 200,000 air molecules, including oxygen, hydrogen, and nitrogen. However, the discovery of helium-rich wells in Texas, Russia, Poland, Algeria, China, and Canada has made helium more accessible.

Helium is produced in minerals through radioactive decay. Helium is extracted from natural gas deposits, which often contain as much as 10% helium. These natural gas reserves are the only industrially-available source of helium. The total world helium resources theoretically add up to 25.2 billion cubic meters; the United States contains 11.1 billion cubic meters. The extracted gas is subjected to chemical pre-purification, using an alkaline wash to remove carbon dioxide and hydrogen sulfide. The remaining gas is cooled to -200°C, where all materials, except helium gas, are liquefied.


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Re: The Force from Underground against Helium
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2019, 07:24:25 AM »
Not only helium, H2O etc are struck upwards by matters coming from under the earth surface. You may call the matters as 'electrones' or whatever.

Does it make sense?  8)
No it does not make sense. You don’t get to play dress up with science.
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Re: The Force from Underground against Helium
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2019, 08:00:23 AM »
Not only helium, H2O etc are struck upwards by matters coming from under the earth surface. You may call the matters as 'electrones' or whatever.

Does it make sense?  8)

Nothing you say makes sense.

Re: The Force from Underground against Helium
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2019, 03:15:40 PM »
Not only helium, H2O etc are struck upwards by matters coming from under the earth surface. You may call the matters as 'electrones' or whatever.
No it doesn't.
What are these "electrones" you speak of?
Why do helium filled balloons sink in a vacuum chamber?
Why does liquid water remain on the surface and fall back down as rain?

Re: The Force from Underground against Helium
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2019, 08:44:29 AM »
Not only helium, H2O etc are struck upwards by matters coming from under the earth surface. You may call the matters as 'electrones' or whatever.

Does it make sense?  8)

Good grief, what have you been reading now?

So if all the gas is being "struck upwards by matters" why do we still have any gas at ground level?
The Universal Accelerator is a constant farce.

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Danang

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Re: The Force from Underground against Helium
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2019, 05:11:44 PM »
I forgot something,  "Universal Acceleration".
Yep, this is the most significant factor for the air to hit the helium.

After the vontainer becomes vacuum, the helium balloon will fall because there is no air molecules that hit the balloon upwards.
BUT when the balloon touch the base, it still stands with balance.
There must be particles other than air -as the balancing factor- that come from under the ground, otherwise the balloon will not stand.

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Re: The Force from Underground against Helium
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2019, 05:34:29 PM »
no
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Re: The Force from Underground against Helium
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2019, 09:13:29 PM »
Interesting, what about radon?
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Re: The Force from Underground against Helium
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2019, 02:59:50 AM »
I forgot something,  "Universal Acceleration".
You mean more nonsense.

After the vontainer becomes vacuum, the helium balloon will fall because there is no air molecules that hit the balloon upwards.
So what you are saying is that it is just the air pushing it up.
That is called buoyancy and is already quite well known.

There must be particles other than air -as the balancing factor- that come from under the ground, otherwise the balloon will not stand.
No, there doesn't need to be.
If you noticed, when there was just one balloon, it was on its side. So there clearly isn't some magic force holding it up.

Re: The Force from Underground against Helium
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2019, 03:51:33 AM »
  • Get in your car with a helium balloon.
  • Allow the balloon to float in the car on a string, ie, not touching the roof, a seat, etc.
  • Accelerate the car, the balloon will move forwards of its tether.
  • Stop accelerating and the balloon will move back to above its tether.
  • Slow the car, the balloon will move backwards from its tether.
  • Stop the car, the balloon will move back above its tether.
You can see from this the balloon always wants to go "up" with regard to the local acceleration vector, ie, gravity + cars acceleration.

If these "particles" coming up from the ground were responsible for the balloon staying up then moving through them would effect the balloon by pushing it back further the faster you travel through the cloud of particles, not by pushing the balloon back or forward during acceleration.
The Universal Accelerator is a constant farce.

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