distance between santiago de chile and melbourne on a fe?

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No it does not work that way!
YOU are the one making the claim against the accepted truth that those flights are real and have been flown by millions of passengers.
YOU are making quite unbelievable and extraordinary insinuations that QANTAS is SATANIC and is killing millions of passengers
So it is YOU that must provide extraordinary proof for your claims and so far have presented no proof and not a shred of evidence.

And it is not only QANTAS but t least LATAM, South African Airlines and Air New Zealand that fly these Southern Hemisphere flights.
Are all those flights fake?

You only deny those flights because they won't fit into your ideas of the shape of the earth.

"Accepted truth" is not means its being "truth". It is accepted anything, not truth. majority's accepting anything can not make it truth. You can not force the minority accept your lies because of you are the majority.

You still have to prove it.

See the WGS-84 model. Proof.

Show it. Not proof, just your baseless claim.

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No it does not work that way!
YOU are the one making the claim against the accepted truth that those flights are real and have been flown by millions of passengers.
YOU are making quite unbelievable and extraordinary insinuations that QANTAS is SATANIC and is killing millions of passengers
So it is YOU that must provide extraordinary proof for your claims and so far have presented no proof and not a shred of evidence.

And it is not only QANTAS but t least LATAM, South African Airlines and Air New Zealand that fly these Southern Hemisphere flights.
Are all those flights fake?

You only deny those flights because they won't fit into your ideas of the shape of the earth.

"Accepted truth" is not means its being "truth". It is accepted anything, not truth. majority's accepting anything can not make it truth. You can not force the minority accept your lies because of you are the majority.

You still have to prove it.

See the WGS-84 model. Proof.

Show it. Not proof, just your baseless claim.

Not my claim, proof from the international professionals on the subject.

WGS84 is an Earth-centered, Earth-fixed terrestrial reference system and geodetic datum. WGS84 is based on a consistent set of constants and model parameters that describe the Earth's size, shape, and gravity and geomagnetic fields.

Again, I have not prove anything did not proven earlier.

That is correct, you have not proven anything.
Instead you just repeatedly assert BS.
Now start defending your claims or stop making them.

Again, if you wish to make such ridiculous demands like demanding a real time video of the entire flight, then produce them for the thousands of other flights you happily accept. If you don't, you are showing an extremely dishonest double standard which shows the only reason you reject these flights is because they show you are wrong.

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No it does not work that way!
YOU are the one making the claim against the accepted truth that those flights are real and have been flown by millions of passengers.
YOU are making quite unbelievable and extraordinary insinuations that QANTAS is SATANIC and is killing millions of passengers
So it is YOU that must provide extraordinary proof for your claims and so far have presented no proof and not a shred of evidence.

And it is not only QANTAS but t least LATAM, South African Airlines and Air New Zealand that fly these Southern Hemisphere flights.
Are all those flights fake?

You only deny those flights because they won't fit into your ideas of the shape of the earth.

"Accepted truth" is not means its being "truth". It is accepted anything, not truth. majority's accepting anything can not make it truth. You can not force the minority accept your lies because of you are the majority.

You still have to prove it.

See the WGS-84 model. Proof.

Show it. Not proof, just your baseless claim.

Not my claim, proof from the international professionals on the subject.

WGS84 is an Earth-centered, Earth-fixed terrestrial reference system and geodetic datum. WGS84 is based on a consistent set of constants and model parameters that describe the Earth's size, shape, and gravity and geomagnetic fields.

"international professionals" is not an evidence. Your thoughts are valid for only yourself. Put forward a real proof or you are saying lie. Then you'll be categorised like other international angry globularists here.

Quote from: wise on May 08, 2019, 01:14:32 AM

Again, I have not prove anything did not proven earlier.

That is correct, you have not proven anything.

I meant I have not "TO" prove. Stop to do insult you angry globularist. Show a proof or shut up.

"international professionals" is not an evidence.

And your empty unsupported words aren't evidence either.

Since you have never provided any evidence to the contrary so I'll go by the internationally recognised distances according to WGS 84 ellipsoid.

And according to that the distance from:
the Sydney Kingsford Smith International Airport (IATA Code: SYD, ICAO Code: YSSY) to Santiago International Airport (IATA code: SCL, ICAO code: SCEL) is: 11.363 km.
That looks about right! Any objections?

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No it does not work that way!
YOU are the one making the claim against the accepted truth that those flights are real and have been flown by millions of passengers.
YOU are making quite unbelievable and extraordinary insinuations that QANTAS is SATANIC and is killing millions of passengers
So it is YOU that must provide extraordinary proof for your claims and so far have presented no proof and not a shred of evidence.

And it is not only QANTAS but t least LATAM, South African Airlines and Air New Zealand that fly these Southern Hemisphere flights.
Are all those flights fake?

You only deny those flights because they won't fit into your ideas of the shape of the earth.

"Accepted truth" is not means its being "truth". It is accepted anything, not truth. majority's accepting anything can not make it truth. You can not force the minority accept your lies because of you are the majority.

You still have to prove it.

See the WGS-84 model. Proof.

Show it. Not proof, just your baseless claim.

Not my claim, proof from the international professionals on the subject.

WGS84 is an Earth-centered, Earth-fixed terrestrial reference system and geodetic datum. WGS84 is based on a consistent set of constants and model parameters that describe the Earth's size, shape, and gravity and geomagnetic fields.

"international professionals" is not an evidence. Your thoughts are valid for only yourself. Put forward a real proof or you are saying lie. Then you'll be categorised like other international angry globularists here.

Please show errors with the WGS84 model, nobody else has and it forms the basis of all published maps and navigation systems. You are a lone voice.

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No it does not work that way!
YOU are the one making the claim against the accepted truth that those flights are real and have been flown by millions of passengers.
YOU are making quite unbelievable and extraordinary insinuations that QANTAS is SATANIC and is killing millions of passengers
So it is YOU that must provide extraordinary proof for your claims and so far have presented no proof and not a shred of evidence.

And it is not only QANTAS but t least LATAM, South African Airlines and Air New Zealand that fly these Southern Hemisphere flights.
Are all those flights fake?

You only deny those flights because they won't fit into your ideas of the shape of the earth.

"Accepted truth" is not means its being "truth". It is accepted anything, not truth. majority's accepting anything can not make it truth. You can not force the minority accept your lies because of you are the majority.

You still have to prove it.

See the WGS-84 model. Proof.

Show it. Not proof, just your baseless claim.

Not my claim, proof from the international professionals on the subject.

WGS84 is an Earth-centered, Earth-fixed terrestrial reference system and geodetic datum. WGS84 is based on a consistent set of constants and model parameters that describe the Earth's size, shape, and gravity and geomagnetic fields.

"international professionals" is not an evidence. Your thoughts are valid for only yourself. Put forward a real proof or you are saying lie. Then you'll be categorised like other international angry globularists here.

Please show errors with the WGS84 model, nobody else has and it forms the basis of all published maps and navigation systems. You are a lone voice.

WGS system is a hoax. That's all. My being alone or being majority can not affect the result.

Quote from: wise on May 08, 2019, 04:26:23 AM

"international professionals" is not an evidence.

And your empty unsupported words aren't evidence either.

Since you have never provided any evidence to the contrary so I'll go by the internationally recognised distances according to WGS 84 ellipsoid.

And according to that the distance from:
the Sydney Kingsford Smith International Airport (IATA Code: SYD, ICAO Code: YSSY) to Santiago International Airport (IATA code: SCL, ICAO code: SCEL) is: 11.363 km.
That looks about right! Any objections?

Surely. bullshits can not be evidence. It works in northern circle and does not work in southern circle. A system's work property in most of the world can't be an evidence its working in other side of the world. And all globularist systems take northern circle as a circle. I've proved it if you remember; "Europe is flat".

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No it does not work that way!
YOU are the one making the claim against the accepted truth that those flights are real and have been flown by millions of passengers.
YOU are making quite unbelievable and extraordinary insinuations that QANTAS is SATANIC and is killing millions of passengers
So it is YOU that must provide extraordinary proof for your claims and so far have presented no proof and not a shred of evidence.

And it is not only QANTAS but t least LATAM, South African Airlines and Air New Zealand that fly these Southern Hemisphere flights.
Are all those flights fake?

You only deny those flights because they won't fit into your ideas of the shape of the earth.

"Accepted truth" is not means its being "truth". It is accepted anything, not truth. majority's accepting anything can not make it truth. You can not force the minority accept your lies because of you are the majority.

You still have to prove it.

See the WGS-84 model. Proof.

Show it. Not proof, just your baseless claim.

Not my claim, proof from the international professionals on the subject.

WGS84 is an Earth-centered, Earth-fixed terrestrial reference system and geodetic datum. WGS84 is based on a consistent set of constants and model parameters that describe the Earth's size, shape, and gravity and geomagnetic fields.

"international professionals" is not an evidence. Your thoughts are valid for only yourself. Put forward a real proof or you are saying lie. Then you'll be categorised like other international angry globularists here.

Please show errors with the WGS84 model, nobody else has and it forms the basis of all published maps and navigation systems. You are a lone voice.

WGS system is a hoax. That's all. My being alone or being majority can not affect the result.

If there were any merit in your claims about the shape of the earth you would be publishing them beyond this website.  We can locate a position on the earth accurately and repeatibily to within a few cm. easily.  How accurate are your measurements?

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No it does not work that way!
YOU are the one making the claim against the accepted truth that those flights are real and have been flown by millions of passengers.
YOU are making quite unbelievable and extraordinary insinuations that QANTAS is SATANIC and is killing millions of passengers
So it is YOU that must provide extraordinary proof for your claims and so far have presented no proof and not a shred of evidence.

And it is not only QANTAS but t least LATAM, South African Airlines and Air New Zealand that fly these Southern Hemisphere flights.
Are all those flights fake?

You only deny those flights because they won't fit into your ideas of the shape of the earth.

"Accepted truth" is not means its being "truth". It is accepted anything, not truth. majority's accepting anything can not make it truth. You can not force the minority accept your lies because of you are the majority.

You still have to prove it.

See the WGS-84 model. Proof.

Show it. Not proof, just your baseless claim.

Not my claim, proof from the international professionals on the subject.

WGS84 is an Earth-centered, Earth-fixed terrestrial reference system and geodetic datum. WGS84 is based on a consistent set of constants and model parameters that describe the Earth's size, shape, and gravity and geomagnetic fields.

"international professionals" is not an evidence. Your thoughts are valid for only yourself. Put forward a real proof or you are saying lie. Then you'll be categorised like other international angry globularists here.

Please show errors with the WGS84 model, nobody else has and it forms the basis of all published maps and navigation systems. You are a lone voice.

WGS system is a hoax. That's all. My being alone or being majority can not affect the result.

If there were any merit in your claims about the shape of the earth you would be publishing them beyond this website.  We can locate a position on the earth accurately and repeatibily to within a few cm. easily.  How accurate are your measurements?

You can not. Many observations show us that the navigation systems are completely hoax.

For example, China is bigger than Russia as areal size. But in WGS system Russia is bigger than China. I've proved China's being bigger than Russia on some workings. You can find out them in my map workings. In China, the flight time from east to west and from north to south is higher  than the same flight times in Russia. This means that China is bigger than Russia.

You claim you can measure within cms mistakes but you are doing thousands of kilometres mistakes. Ahahah your system is completely a bullshit. Try wise; here: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74162.0

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Again, do you have any evidence to back up your claims? If not, retract them and stop making them.

You can not. Many observations show us that the navigation systems are completely hoax.

And that is another baseless claim of yours. Do you have anything to back it up?

For example, China is bigger than Russia as areal size. But in WGS system Russia is bigger than China.

And where is your evidence of this?
Note: This has 2 claims in one, and your pathetic assertions don't magically make these claims true.

I've proved China's being bigger than Russia on some workings.

Stop lying. The only thing you have proven is that you have no concern for the truth.

In China, the flight time from east to west and from north to south is higher  than the same flight times in Russia.

And do you have real time video of these flights? If not, why the dishonest double standard?
Do you have any of the details of it?
If you do, why didn't you provide it here?

Again and again, I have not a claim.

Stop lying.
You are claiming these flights are not real. That is a claim from you.
You are claiming that all the people who claim to have flown on these flights are lying. That is a claim from you.
You are claiming that Qantas is lying about the existence of these flights. That is a claim from you.
You are claiming that the airports associated with these flights are lying about these flights. That is a claim from you.
You are claiming that the flight trackers are putting up fake tracking data for these flights. That is a claim from you.

So no, you have made several claims that you are yet to back up in any way.
You just repeat the same claims and pretend you have no burden of proof.

Grow up.

Now I ask again, can you provide any evidence for your insane claims?
If not, stop making them.

Wise is asking for a full video of a 13 hour flight from Perth to Johannesburg or any location in southern Africa. By your same logic, Perth to Sydney flights are faked because I have yet to find a full video of the flight. I have not seen a video of Turkey, therefore it must be fake.


Consider this:


The distance from London to Perth is 8,991 miles on the globe earth (the correct earth). The trip takes 17 hours to accomplish, though this can vary. This means the plane travels at an average speed of 523mph. The coordinates of London Airport is 51.5 degrees North, .05 degrees East. The coordinates of Perth Airport is 39.9 degrees South, 115.9 degrees East. This means London Airport is 3,722 miles from the North Pole and Perth Airport is 8,415 miles from the North Pole with a difference in latitude of 115.85.

Since we have two lengths of a segment, and the angle, do:
d = sqrt(a^2 + b^2 - 2ab cos(c))
d is the distance to both airports
a is 3,722 miles
b is 8,415 miles
c is 115.85

Distance on the flat Earth is 11,942 miles
This isn't too much of an error, but use the equation yourself for flights in the Southern Hemisphere, it will become a huge problem.
Since the distance is 11,942 miles, the average speed of the plane would have to be 702mph. QANTAS uses the 787-9 Dreamliner. Unfortunate for some, but the maximum speed of the plane is only 593mph. This means, the plane would have to exceed it's maximum speed by 109mph for 17 hours just to fly on the flat earth.

But wait! There be no full videos of London to Perth bro! It's fake bro! Just trust me!

Nope.

FULL VIDEO as you request of the inaugural flight. Notice how the length of the video is 17 hours.

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Again and again, I have not a claim. You have a claim so you have to prove it.

You are making the claim that the data proven and published by recognised organisations is incorrect.  You should contact them with your findings.  This is not about individuals here having to justify it, but the original sources.

Grow up.

Now I ask again, can you provide any evidence for your insane claims?
If not, stop making them.

Telling "grow up" can not do you a grown. You are the who has to be grow up here. You have to agree you are not belonging here. Controlled opposition admins may allow you write here; but this place is for people whose either believers, or people curious about flat earth or flat earthers. Not somebody like you try to fight against flat earth society. This is definitely not how this place working.

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Again and again, I have not a claim. You have a claim so you have to prove it.

You are making the claim that the data proven and published by recognised organisations is incorrect.  You should contact them with your findings.  This is not about individuals here having to justify it, but the original sources.

Nope. It is not proven. Tickets are not proofs. Their unfair competition isn'T my problem, but problem of other aircraft companies. They have strong lawyers I can not deal. If an aircraft company fund me then I can sue the Qantas instantly with nomercy.

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Your objections are irrelevant. there is no new information here. these were repeatedly discussed. You're doing nothing but rhetoric what Rabinoz and Jackblack say. If there is a video that belongs to a flight, it has flight. Stop making childish comparisons. This is an important flight line. There have been many debates for this line. Firms said they transfered millions of passangers in this line. some of these people necessarily wanted to do something for other people. No, they don't do that. because there are no such flights. Stop to create childish claims anymore. These childish behaviours are bringing you to closer to the rabblack/souleoul ranters group. He has tens of alt accounts, are you one of them? If you has a question, ask it then I can reply. If you an angry globularist then read my working here to get the flat earth theory.

You have to agree you are not belonging here.

Why?
This is a page for debating FE, and that is what I am doing.

You have been provided with mountains of evidence for the existence of these flights.
All you can do is pretend they don't exist.
You have offered absolutely no evidence to indicate they don't exist, nor any reason to doubt their existence.
Instead all you can do is offer an extremely dishonest double standard so you can pretend Earth might be flat.

If you wish to claim these flights are fake, PROVE IT!
Otherwise, explain how they work on a FE.
If you don't want to do either then leave as you clearly aren't here for debate.

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You have to agree you are not belonging here.

Why?
This is a page for debating FE, and that is what I am doing.

You have been provided with mountains of evidence for the existence of these flights.
All you can do is pretend they don't exist.
You have offered absolutely no evidence to indicate they don't exist, nor any reason to doubt their existence.
Instead all you can do is offer an extremely dishonest double standard so you can pretend Earth might be flat.

If you wish to claim these flights are fake, PROVE IT!
Otherwise, explain how they work on a FE.
If you don't want to do either then leave as you clearly aren't here for debate.

LIE!! You are not here to debating FE. You are here to mock the FE and FE'rs. This is what you are doing here since years but controlled opposition and NASA backed forum management let you do it. In a serious flat earther management there is no room for you and other angry globularist people here. They allow you stay here because your patrons are same.

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Again and again, I have not a claim. You have a claim so you have to prove it.

You are making the claim that the data proven and published by recognised organisations is incorrect.  You should contact them with your findings.  This is not about individuals here having to justify it, but the original sources.

Nope. It is not proven. Tickets are not proofs. Their unfair competition isn'T my problem, but problem of other aircraft companies. They have strong lawyers I can not deal. If an aircraft company fund me then I can sue the Qantas instantly with nomercy.

I am referring to cartography which identifies the size and shape of the earth.

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Again and again, I have not a claim. You have a claim so you have to prove it.

You are making the claim that the data proven and published by recognised organisations is incorrect.  You should contact them with your findings.  This is not about individuals here having to justify it, but the original sources.

Nope. It is not proven. Tickets are not proofs. Their unfair competition isn'T my problem, but problem of other aircraft companies. They have strong lawyers I can not deal. If an aircraft company fund me then I can sue the Qantas instantly with nomercy.

I am referring to cartography which identifies the size and shape of the earth.

Sorry, The classical cartography is null and void in the Flat Earth Society ie here.

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<more childish BS>

Again and again, I have not a claim. You have a claim so you have to prove it.

You are making the claim that the data proven and published by recognised organisations is incorrect.  You should contact them with your findings.  This is not about individuals here having to justify it, but the original sources.

Nope. It is not proven. Tickets are not proofs. Their unfair competition isn'T my problem, but problem of other aircraft companies. They have strong lawyers I can not deal. If an aircraft company fund me then I can sue the Qantas instantly with nomercy.

I am referring to cartography which identifies the size and shape of the earth.

Sorry, The classical cartography is null and void in the Flat Earth Society ie here.

Why is it incorrect?

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<more childish BS>

Again and again, I have not a claim. You have a claim so you have to prove it.

You are making the claim that the data proven and published by recognised organisations is incorrect.  You should contact them with your findings.  This is not about individuals here having to justify it, but the original sources.

Nope. It is not proven. Tickets are not proofs. Their unfair competition isn'T my problem, but problem of other aircraft companies. They have strong lawyers I can not deal. If an aircraft company fund me then I can sue the Qantas instantly with nomercy.

I am referring to cartography which identifies the size and shape of the earth.

Sorry, The classical cartography is null and void in the Flat Earth Society ie here.

Why is it incorrect?

Because classical cartography needs prerequisite is that the world is round. Since the earth isn't round so that classical cartography is null and void. you can only use it in the northern hemiflat.

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<more childish BS>

Again and again, I have not a claim. You have a claim so you have to prove it.

You are making the claim that the data proven and published by recognised organisations is incorrect.  You should contact them with your findings.  This is not about individuals here having to justify it, but the original sources.

Nope. It is not proven. Tickets are not proofs. Their unfair competition isn'T my problem, but problem of other aircraft companies. They have strong lawyers I can not deal. If an aircraft company fund me then I can sue the Qantas instantly with nomercy.

I am referring to cartography which identifies the size and shape of the earth.

Sorry, The classical cartography is null and void in the Flat Earth Society ie here.

Why is it incorrect?

Because classical cartography needs prerequisite is that the world is round. Since the earth isn't round so that classical cartography is null and void. you can only use it in the northern hemiflat.

That is wrong and you are making up things. Millions of people use "classical" cartography in the southern hemisphere quite successfully every day. Just ask one of the millions of people who live there, like perhaps Jack or Rab.

Because classical cartography needs prerequisite is that the world is round. Since the earth isn't round so that classical cartography is null and void. you can only use it in the northern hemiflat.

You have it the wrong way around.

Detailed mapping of the earth required accurate measurements of the various countries and continents.
This is the work of Geodetic Surveyors and your "old friend" Al Burini is regarded as "The Father of Geodesy".

When the various continents are accurately measured it is found that those shapes will not fit on a flat earth.
For limited regions, the differences are small and significant only to surveyors but for larger regions, it becomes obvious that the earth cannot be flat.

You might read: Geodesy Proof Of The Flat Earth Deception.
The above if why Flat Earthers hate Geodetic Surveyors so much and many claim silly things like their being Freemasons etc.

LIE!!

Well thanks for starting with a summary of your post.
Now care to try debating, or will you just continue with the insults?

Again, do you have anything to indicate these flights are fake?
If not, can you explain how they work with your FE map?

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Ignoring my whole post. What a surprise.

Your objections are irrelevant. there is no new information here. these were repeatedly discussed. You're doing nothing but rhetoric what Rabinoz and Jackblack say.

I don't remember seeing them talk about this specific flight at all. A+ for effort though.

If there is a video that belongs to a flight, it has flight.

So you are saying if there is a video that is videoing a flight, it HAS FLIGHT in your OWN words. Then WHY did you DENY and say that the two videos I presented earlier is FAKE? Here is my post again:

>> This is talking about a different flight. Not from London to Perth. <<

Wise, if you feel SO confident in yourself, fly this route yourself. While you're there, time it, and time lapse the whole video. On the flight, you will notice how you will not see any major land continents, which the fastest route on the flat earth shows. You will see nothing but blue ocean, and a possible chance to see Antarctica. This is confirmed by flight times. I was able to find a video from from Sydney to South Africa flying through QANTAS.

This is more a vlog-type video, but has important time stamps.
7:50 The current location where the plane is with a video of the ocean, no land continents. Also, notice the plane going towards Antarctica on the map. As I said before, the most efficient route from Perth to Johannesburg is traveling through Southern Asia, which is not what he observed!
11:12 "We were able to fly south toward the Antarctic rim" as he shows a picture of icebergs in his video through scattered clouds. Notice the tracking of the plane perfectly matching his observations. Right by Antarctica on the flight path, and can clearly see icebergs.

Yet another video.

1:10 Clear visibility of icebergs. Films it for the rest of the video.

So when you say,

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 03:20:50 AM

Prove them with a full time video!  Come on rabinoz, who do you think to deceive? If there was millions of passangers those Qantas claims, so would not there at least hundreds of full time videos taken by rich Australians. We know Australians are rich, right? All of them are not like you.

you clearly have done 0 research.

Your response:

Quote from: Unepic Globetard on May 06, 2019, 08:08:53 PM

<empty evidence>

None of them are a full time video. Because you know, it is not exist. So that your baseless claims are not evidences.

WELL I JUST LINKED A FULL VIDEO IN MY OTHER POST

Here it is:

FULL VIDEO as you request of the inaugural flight. Notice how the length of the video is 17 hours.



Here is one of your other posts you made to my main account, rabinoz.

Prove them with a full time video! Come on rabinoz, who do you think to deceive? If there was millions of passangers those Qantas claims, so would not there at least hundreds of full time videos taken by rich Australians. We know Australians are rich, right? All of them are not like you.

I JUST DID YET YOU STILL WON'T ACCEPT THE EVIDENCE!I have provided 3 different videos, one of which is a FULL VIDEO AS YOU REQUESTED

Stop making childish comparisons. This is an important flight line. There have been many debates for this line. Firms said they transfered millions of passangers in this line. some of these people necessarily wanted to do something for other people. No, they don't do that. because there are no such flights. Stop to create childish claims anymore. These childish behaviours are bringing you to closer to the rabblack/souleoul ranters group. He has tens of alt accounts, are you one of them? If you has a question, ask it then I can reply. If you an angry globularist then read my working here to get the flat earth theory.

Firstly, there is no debate. The entire airline industry VS you. Secondly, I just provided a full time video IN YOUR REQUEST yet  you are still saying "there are no such flights"?

CONCLUSION

You are saying that there is no flight unless a full time video. When I provided a full time video, all you do is make the lame excuse is that rabinoz or JackBlack have already discussed about it, yet you won't address the problem yourself. You are shifting the goal posts, and you know it. Remember, you said that if there is a video of a flight, it has flight. So, I provided a 17 hour long video of the FULL FLIGHT from London to Perth. I did math which you completely ignored and proved that the plane would have to exceed its maximum speed by 100mph for it to be a successful 17 hour long flight. It is impossible to win a debate against you if all you're gonna do is shift the goal posts. What more do you want?

Different cities, but it fits to the OP very well:

Different cities, but it fits to the OP very well:

There is no working model for flat earth. There never will. This is because it is impossible for a 2d projection of a 3d surface to match perfectly without any distortions.