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Wall Guardian

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« on: January 19, 2007, 04:03:04 PM »
What is the average FEers opinion on Space Shuttle Columbia? or other unsuccessful space launches? Are those fallen heroes all in on a plan to secure a conspiracy with no practical purpose?
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BOGWarrior89

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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2007, 04:48:39 PM »
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What is the average FEers opinion on Space Shuttle Columbia? or other unsuccessful space launches? Are those fallen heroes all in on a plan to secure a conspiracy with no practical purpose?


I didn't know mathematics could be applied to English ...
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2007, 04:56:39 PM »
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What is the average FEers opinion on Space Shuttle Columbia? or other unsuccessful space launches? Are those fallen heroes all in on a plan to secure a conspiracy with no practical purpose?

Yes. We already know the government doesn't care about its people, and is willing to sacrifice their lives to cover up its lies.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2007, 04:56:47 PM »
Airplane accidents happen all the time.
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Wall Guardian

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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2007, 08:07:25 AM »
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Yes. We already know the government doesn't care about its people, and is willing to sacrifice their lives to cover up its lies.


Explain yourself.
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Masterchef

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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2007, 11:30:56 AM »
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Explain yourself.

The war in Iraq.
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HaterAteFL

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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2007, 12:16:24 PM »
the war in iraq is to secure the conspiracy?
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The Aids Man

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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2007, 12:58:59 PM »
Yes I believe that the earth is flat iv'e seen that the pics from space are bollacks and all that jazz about "oh you can see the curvature of the earth from a high point" thats a load of bull you guys have opened my eyes to the truth thanks  :D
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2007, 02:45:34 PM »
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the war in iraq is to secure the conspiracy?

No, but it is proof that the US government does not care about its people, and is willing to sacrifice their lives for pointless things.
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cbarnett97

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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2007, 05:20:15 PM »
if you believe the earth is flat and seeing is believing why dont oyu guys go up in a balloon and see the curve of the earth for yourselves once you see the curve the space shuttle wil be very easy to believe in then.
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TheEngineer

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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2007, 06:26:41 PM »
I can't even see it on a plane.
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2007, 06:59:01 PM »
Yeah, we've had this discussion a million times before and the fact is that even if the Earth is round, you have to go much higher than commercial airlines to be able to genuinely see the curve of the Earth with your own eyes.

Regarding Space Shuttle Colombia, I'm not going to enter into such a debate as it clearly is in bad taste.
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cbarnett97

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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2007, 07:01:26 PM »
that is why I said balloon. large balloons can get up high enough to see the curve.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2007, 07:18:10 PM »
Feel free to build yourself a balloon and spacesuit and prove us all wrong, then.
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2007, 07:26:33 PM »
If you print off this page and then go up in your balloon and take a photo of yourself holding this printed page with the curve of the Earth visible (maybe you'll need a few photos) then I'll believe you.
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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2007, 07:29:33 PM »
I wouldn't. I would need a video. They are harder to fake than photos are.
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cbarnett97

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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2007, 07:34:21 PM »
We already have it was called Project Excelsior here is a short video
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now I would love to hear an argument that does not involve saying "its a fake" because that is a very childish response.
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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2007, 07:38:58 PM »
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...because that is a very childish response.

No, it would be an accurate response. This video would be so easy to fake its not even funny.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2007, 07:39:37 PM »
Project Excelsior was government affiliated.
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cbarnett97

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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2007, 07:39:42 PM »
and if you look at the horizon when he jumps what do you see..... a curve!
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2007, 07:43:36 PM »
We have put forth our evidence now it is time for you guys to do a study of your own to prove these are fakes. So it is a very childish response to just call it a fake with no support at all. I can not see any reason to support a conspiracy I think if it was they went way overboard with this fake view and I can see no gain to making us believe the earth is round over flat.
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cbarnett97

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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2007, 07:44:47 PM »
I also like how you just got done saying you would need to see a video because they are harder to fake and then oyu see a video and suprise suprise its a "fake"
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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2007, 07:54:52 PM »
So if we manage to get through your plonking dance, you are actually unable to refute the argument that the video could be a fake?
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cbarnett97

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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2007, 08:01:51 PM »
Of course a video could be faked but due to the fact that you have no video evidence to refute my video evidence you are not on very solid footing to call this video a fake.
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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2007, 08:11:30 PM »
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Of course a video could be faked but due to the fact that you have no video evidence to refute my video evidence you are not on very solid footing to call this video a fake.

Wait, so your video is true until proven false? I don't think it works that way. :roll:
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cbarnett97

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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2007, 09:33:58 PM »
in the face of overwhelming evidence against your point, it can not be explained away by only saying it is fake without offering any proof of your own. If you could show me something that showed the earth to be flat then I would be much more inclined to believe you. but by just saying it is fake will never convince me.
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« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2007, 09:37:47 PM »
Are we trying to convince you?

Can you show me where somebody has tried to convince you that the Earth is flat?  I can't think of a single time I've seen anybody on this forum try to convince people that the Earth is flat.  You, on the other hand, are trying to convince us that the Earth is round.  If you want to do that, perhaps you'll have to come up with better arguments than videos produced by the people we believe are conspiring to make us believe that the Earth is round.
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« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2007, 09:46:22 PM »
I've since stopped trying to convince anyone. I see most of you as devil's advocates, and that actually impresses me now. The ability to think beyond the norm is the object of the game, and it's being played very well.

I find that's it's mostly a more advanced game of "he said, she said". Which is quite entertaining at times.

I know the Earth is round, but I don't need to prove it to anyone, because what I know as fact will most likely not change, and I am the only one who will understand what I have witnessed, no one else can until they undergo the same experiences.

All FE needs to really do is refine itself, and it may just be able to fully stand up to RE as a whole, as long as everything becomes accounted for as it is in RE.
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