Celestial Ocean Theory: A new flat Earth model that works

I couple of years ago, I posted a new model of the Flat Earth which I called the "Celestial Ocean Theory", a model which aims to reconcile Biblical and historical cosmology with modern science. Since then I have made several changes to this theory, and I've decided to post an new and improved image of what the world truly looks like:



Explanation:

This model assumes the existence of a vast spherical Celestial Ocean that encompassed the Earth. There is an abundance of evidence of this:

1: Rain from cloudless skies. This phenomenon is often referred to as "Serein", and meteorologists claim to not understand. This is where my theory is one step ahead: Serein is simply rain from the Celestial Ocean, that rains down from the Fountains of the Deep.

2: Libyan Desert Glass. "Mysterious" shards of glass that appear in the desert. This originates from the Fountains of the Deep, as the fountains are simply brittle and weak parts of the Firmament. As these parts of the Firmament are eroded by the ocean, shards of the Firmament can break off and fall to the ground.

3: The sky has a color pattern unbelievably similar to an ocean. The colors are somewhat distorted due to the distance of the sun from the Celestial Ocean.

Stars and Celestial Objects

This is something other Flat Earth Theories have not yet managed to answer: What are stars?
In my Celestial Ocean Theory, stars caused by sonoluminescence. This is a real phenomenon in which acoustic waves in a liquid can create points of light:



Looks remarkably like a star, doesn't it? The acoustic waves are emanating from Sheol, a place deep beneath the surface of the Earth, which has its entrance at the North Pole. Evidence of the existence of this place is numerous, and mostly stems from the multitude of myths that concern an "Underworld". Sheol is the inspiration of this "Underworld". The existence of this massive natural structure naturally causes some "tectonic turbulence", or Earthquakes. Earthquakes echo into the Celestial Ocean and maintain the sonoluminescent lights.
The role of Antarctica remains unchanged from earlier versions - it is an ice wall that supports the Firmament.

I have yet to find a problem with this Theory, and it seems to be entirely compatible with both modern science and modern religious interpretation. I am always willing to debate this, so feel free to ask if you have any questions or criticisms.

I have a few questions.   

Stars are acoustic waves in a rotating ocean? How is an acoustic wave fixed in place while rotating in an ocean?  Have you considered spectrographs of starlight and their implications since star spectrograph and our sun spectograph are very similar.

The ocean of stars has a few issues with the axis of rotation just like all other celestial gear problems above a flat plane not matching observations.  (Star axis above the earth moving to 90 degrees as you approach and at the horizons at the equator).  How does your model improve on the existing flat earth models which don’t address this adequately.  How do huge constellations crossing the equator maintain their shapes?

Sheol causes earthquakes from deep within the Earth?  With seismographs we monitor faultines and can pinpoint exactly where these earthquakes come from and it is certainly not deep in the core of the Earth.

Why does the transparent firmament rotate and how does does it rotate with “gear like” precision/attributes while maintaining a barrier holding back an ocean in the sky?

The Libyan desert glass isn’t really a mystery at all.  It was likely formed some 29 million years ago in a meteor impact called El-Baz in the Egyptian desert measuring 60 by 100 km.  Giant meteor plus sand plus massive heat = glass. 

How do you intend to test your hypotheses?

Number one, this is the opposite of zetetic.

Do you have an explanation for star motion in northern and southern hemispheres? Why do Autralians see the star field circle the pole one way and Icelanders the opposite?

The ancient Greeks called planets "wandering stars" because they do not follow the same path as stars. Can you explain why planets do not maintain formation properly with the stars? The look like stars, but motion is different, so not stuck on the dome, right?

Amateur radio operators have built their own satellites and got govts to launch them. They point highly directional antennas at them and talk to hams thousands of mile away. They are launching their next satellite on SpaceX. Amazon plans to launch thousands of satellites. Where are satellites in your model, and how do gps, satellite tv, ham radio satellites work?

Quote: " Evidence of the existence of this place is numerous, and mostly stems from the multitude of myths ... "

I don't think any such myths claim RE, so I guess FE wins the myth evidence category. Definition of myth

myth
/miTH/
noun
noun: myth; plural noun: myths

    1. a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.
   
    synonyms:   folk tale, story, folk story, legend, tale, fable, saga, allegory, parable, tradition, lore, folklore;

    2. a widely held but false belief or idea.

    "he wants to dispel the myth that sea kayaking is too risky or too strenuous"

    synonyms:   misconception, fallacy, mistaken belief, false notion, misbelief, old wives' tale, fairy story, fairy tale, fiction, fantasy, delusion, figment of the imagination; More
    invention, fabrication, falsehood, untruth, lie, trumped-up story, fake news, alternative fact;
    informalstory, tall story, tall tale, fib, cock and bull story, kidology

    "there are still plenty of myths surrounding pregnancy and childbirth"


    3. a misrepresentation of the truth.

        "attacking the party's irresponsible myths about privatization"
     
        synonyms:   misconception, fallacy, mistaken belief, false notion, misbelief, old wives' tale, fairy story, fairy tale, fiction, fantasy, delusion, figment of the imagination; More
        invention, fabrication, falsehood, untruth, lie, trumped-up story, fake news, alternative fact;
        informalstory, tall story, tall tale, fib, cock and bull story, kidology
       

     "there are still plenty of myths surrounding pregnancy and childbirth"
     
     4.    a fictitious or imaginary person or thing.
        an exaggerated or idealized conception of a person or thing.
 
       "the book is a scholarly study of the Churchill myth"

I have a few questions.   

Stars are acoustic waves in a rotating ocean? How is an acoustic wave fixed in place while rotating in an ocean?  Have you considered spectrographs of starlight and their implications since star spectrograph and our sun spectograph are very similar.

The ocean of stars has a few issues with the axis of rotation just like all other celestial gear problems above a flat plane not matching observations.  (Star axis above the earth moving to 90 degrees as you approach and at the horizons at the equator).  How does your model improve on the existing flat earth models which don’t address this adequately.  How do huge constellations crossing the equator maintain their shapes?

Sheol causes earthquakes from deep within the Earth?  With seismographs we monitor faultines and can pinpoint exactly where these earthquakes come from and it is certainly not deep in the core of the Earth.

Why does the transparent firmament rotate and how does does it rotate with “gear like” precision/attributes while maintaining a barrier holding back an ocean in the sky?

The Libyan desert glass isn’t really a mystery at all.  It was likely formed some 29 million years ago in a meteor impact called El-Baz in the Egyptian desert measuring 60 by 100 km.  Giant meteor plus sand plus massive heat = glass.

Nearly all your arguments here rely 100% on trusting corrupt scientific institutions. Seismography, spectography, whatever scientists "studied" the Libyan desert glass - its all fake. Have you studied these things yourself, or just listened to the "scientists"?
Besides, I in no way meant to say that Sheol is cause of *all* earthquakes.

The firmament rotates because of aether. It is the same element that allows for the movement of the Sun and the Moon.

Number one, this is the opposite of zetetic.

Do you have an explanation for star motion in northern and southern hemispheres? Why do Autralians see the star field circle the pole one way and Icelanders the opposite?

The ancient Greeks called planets "wandering stars" because they do not follow the same path as stars. Can you explain why planets do not maintain formation properly with the stars? The look like stars, but motion is different, so not stuck on the dome, right?

Amateur radio operators have built their own satellites and got govts to launch them. They point highly directional antennas at them and talk to hams thousands of mile away. They are launching their next satellite on SpaceX. Amazon plans to launch thousands of satellites. Where are satellites in your model, and how do gps, satellite tv, ham radio satellites work?

Quote: " Evidence of the existence of this place is numerous, and mostly stems from the multitude of myths ... "

I don't think any such myths claim RE, so I guess FE wins the myth evidence category. Definition of myth

myth
/miTH/
noun
noun: myth; plural noun: myths

    1. a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.
   
    synonyms:   folk tale, story, folk story, legend, tale, fable, saga, allegory, parable, tradition, lore, folklore;

    2. a widely held but false belief or idea.

    "he wants to dispel the myth that sea kayaking is too risky or too strenuous"

    synonyms:   misconception, fallacy, mistaken belief, false notion, misbelief, old wives' tale, fairy story, fairy tale, fiction, fantasy, delusion, figment of the imagination; More
    invention, fabrication, falsehood, untruth, lie, trumped-up story, fake news, alternative fact;
    informalstory, tall story, tall tale, fib, cock and bull story, kidology

    "there are still plenty of myths surrounding pregnancy and childbirth"


    3. a misrepresentation of the truth.

        "attacking the party's irresponsible myths about privatization"
     
        synonyms:   misconception, fallacy, mistaken belief, false notion, misbelief, old wives' tale, fairy story, fairy tale, fiction, fantasy, delusion, figment of the imagination; More
        invention, fabrication, falsehood, untruth, lie, trumped-up story, fake news, alternative fact;
        informalstory, tall story, tall tale, fib, cock and bull story, kidology
       

     "there are still plenty of myths surrounding pregnancy and childbirth"
     
     4.    a fictitious or imaginary person or thing.
        an exaggerated or idealized conception of a person or thing.
 
       "the book is a scholarly study of the Churchill myth"

Stars are not fixed on the dome. They are artifacts within the Celestial Ocean. Planets and other celestial objects could very well be debris within the ocean, and therefore move differently.
And satellites aren't real. They are either planes, balloons, or natural phenomena NASA claims are man-made.

How do you intend to test your hypotheses?

Send up a NASA mission to investigate the firmament?

Quote from: JCM on April 14, 2019, 10:14:58 AM

I have a few questions.   

Stars are acoustic waves in a rotating ocean? How is an acoustic wave fixed in place while rotating in an ocean?  Have you considered spectrographs of starlight and their implications since star spectrograph and our sun spectograph are very similar.

The ocean of stars has a few issues with the axis of rotation just like all other celestial gear problems above a flat plane not matching observations.  (Star axis above the earth moving to 90 degrees as you approach and at the horizons at the equator).  How does your model improve on the existing flat earth models which don’t address this adequately.  How do huge constellations crossing the equator maintain their shapes?

Sheol causes earthquakes from deep within the Earth?  With seismographs we monitor faultines and can pinpoint exactly where these earthquakes come from and it is certainly not deep in the core of the Earth.

Why does the transparent firmament rotate and how does does it rotate with “gear like” precision/attributes while maintaining a barrier holding back an ocean in the sky?

The Libyan desert glass isn’t really a mystery at all.  It was likely formed some 29 million years ago in a meteor impact called El-Baz in the Egyptian desert measuring 60 by 100 km.  Giant meteor plus sand plus massive heat = glass.

Nearly all your arguments here rely 100% on trusting corrupt scientific institutions. Seismography, spectography, whatever scientists "studied" the Libyan desert glass - its all fake. Have you studied these things yourself, or just listened to the "scientists"?
Besides, I in no way meant to say that Sheol is cause of *all* earthquakes.

The firmament rotates because of aether. It is the same element that allows for the movement of the Sun and the Moon.

What is your evidence that all scientific institutions are corrupt?
Why does the firmament drop Libyan desert glass only on top of Libya? As in why is the firmament only weak over Libya?
Is this your theory? Or are you simply co-opting this one:

Here is a group of non-governmental people who will tell you about the shape of the earth through their own experience, using equipment they made and people all over the world doing this.



These satellites were launched by a private corporation, SpaceX. You can get satellite tracker software (open source if you are that paranoid, inspect the code and compile it yourself to know for sure what it is doing - sourcefourge.net and search "satellite trcker").

Youtube "amateur radio satellite" and you will see endless videos of random people, hams from all over the world, pointing their very directional antennas at the place the software tells them the satellite is, and successfully talking to a ham thousands of mile away.

Also, notice they know what direction other places are, because their antennas are highly directional, and they have to point them precisely, they use RE geometry and it works.

Also also, moonbounce. Hams have bounced a signal off the moon, which they timed. When you divide by the speed of light, you get 239,000, same as optical distance and orbital calculations, all RE. Also, re the "firmament", it is not radar reflective, because when you aim the antenna at the moon, you get return signal. Aim it aw3ay, no return.

You can get a ham license and buy or build stuff and do the same. Without a license, you can still get receiver and antenna and tracker software and listen to them,.

Youtube "ISS yagi" for videos on how to make a system to listen to the ISS. If you make one, you can verify that when you point it where the satellite tracker says it is, you hear them. Point away in any other direction, no signal.

Do you have an explanation for the hams all over the world to think the earth is round, or are you saying that amateur radio is part of the NASA conspiracy?

On a less aggressive note, how does your theory differ from the typical biblical FE model, like Stash referenced? Is it just in the presence of details like sonoluminescence used to explain aspects of the biblical model, to bring it into line with testable science, or are there tweaks that actually change the contents from the classical biblical cosmology? From what I can tell the primary change is having celestial objects, like the stars and planets, exist beyond the firmanent. Is that the biggest alteration?
On a related note, what separates the Sun and moon from them, why do they exist within the dome rather than with the stars in the Ocean outside? Are they illuminated by another source?
Been meaning to get to figuring out this model for a while.

Flat_is_truth, why are you a flat earth model developer? Are you on Mark Sargent's computer programmer payroll? Have you tried living a full day of your life immersed in this strange paradigm shift?

Unless you're alone on some desert island, (with a computer which filters everything except flat earth propaganda) your model dictates you are surrounded by a world of liars and lies. You can't trust anyone, anything, or even your own eyes or ears.   

Your model might have been seriously entertained by some of our way distant ancestors, before it was binned. Are you escaping reality by trying to get into the headspace/ state of mind, of ancient ancestors?

When I first read the title of this thread I was very excited, I thought finally someone else besides me believes in infinite ocean and infinite earth, but no its another domer. Why do you guys always place barriers and domes over the earth? Celestial ocean is an infinite ocean below your feet. Enough with ice walls and domes LOL