Something as simple as a compass proves the earth is round

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Something as simple as a compass proves the earth is round
« on: April 21, 2019, 03:49:55 AM »



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boydster

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Re: Something as simple as a compass proves the earth is round
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2019, 06:40:54 AM »
Maybe you could use your words?
Let me explain this in a way you can understand. What you just wrote sounds exactly like something that a gay rights Portuguese Samurai would write.

Re: Something as simple as a compass proves the earth is round
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2019, 04:01:59 PM »
Because the Earth's magnetic field's inclination and intensity vary at different latitudes, compasses are often balanced during manufacture so that the dial or needle will be level, eliminating needle drag which can give inaccurate readings. Most manufacturers balance their compass needles for one of five zones, ranging from zone 1, covering most of the Northern Hemisphere, to zone 5 covering Australia and the southern oceans. This individual zone balancing prevents excessive dipping of one end of the needle which can cause the compass card to stick and give false readings.

Yet another thing done by people all over the world that makes no sense on FE.
Is it possible for something to be both true and unproven?

Are things that are true and proven any different from things that are true but not proven?

Re: Something as simple as a compass proves the earth is round
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2019, 11:15:26 PM »
OP: You don't understand the meaning of the word "proves".

Re: Something as simple as a compass proves the earth is round
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2019, 10:41:42 AM »
"Proof" and "truth" turns into semantic argument -> epistemology. There are multiple epistemological systems, none are proven in the sense of math or physics. On FES, it is impossible to "prove" RE, everything can be denied or explained with conspiracy. Interestingly, it seems to be possible to prove FE, at least to some. I would think the rules go both ways and all FE claims could be falsified by claiming fakery and conspiracy. For instance, FEs constantly find flaws in RE pics and videos, saying they are photoshopped and faked. Seems to me the same claim can invalidate any FE video, but on FES, apparently FEs pics and vids are proof, while RE pics and vids are not proof.

I think "operational truth" is a more specific and useful concept. The truth you assume when you get on an airliner and expect the pilot to use RE tech to get yuou where you intend to go.

The operational truth of RE is navigation, Newton, space flight, satellites, astronomy, geometry, equatorial mount, sextant, etc etc etc, huge, and matches up, is consistent throughout.

The operational truth of FE is zero. No map, no nav gear, no textbook, no nothing.
Is it possible for something to be both true and unproven?

Are things that are true and proven any different from things that are true but not proven?

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Re: Something as simple as a compass proves the earth is round
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2019, 01:57:05 PM »
You have not proven that RE astronomy can be simulated with Newton's laws, that navigation assumes an RE, or that sextants prove an RE, or any of that. Those are assumptions without demonstration. Literally all of those things are wrong.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Three_Body_Problem

https://wiki.tfes.org/World_Geodetic_System_1984

Re: Something as simple as a compass proves the earth is round
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2019, 02:29:57 PM »
You have not proven that RE astronomy can be simulated with Newton's laws, that navigation assumes an RE, or that sextants prove an RE, or any of that. Those are assumptions without demonstration. Literally all of those things are wrong.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Three_Body_Problem

https://wiki.tfes.org/World_Geodetic_System_1984

Lets see a "proof" from tomB as a good example
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Re: Something as simple as a compass proves the earth is round
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2019, 02:34:43 PM »
You have not proven that RE astronomy can be simulated with Newton's laws, that navigation assumes an RE, or that sextants prove an RE, or any of that. Those are assumptions without demonstration. Literally all of those things are wrong.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Three_Body_Problem

https://wiki.tfes.org/World_Geodetic_System_1984

Not sure what RE astronomy has to do specifically with a compass. As well, I'm not sure the n-body problem needs reconciliation for a compass to work. In FE Astronomy, how is the n-body problem addressed?

As for RE navigation, it is demonstrated by your pilot when flying you on a great circle route which assumes a spherical earth. Unless of course you believe your pilot knows not where s/he is going, how long it will take, how far away the destination is and how much fuel is required.