distance between santiago de chile and melbourne on a fe?

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Quote from: wise on May 05, 2019, 12:25:37 PM

Quote from: JackBlack on May 03, 2019, 03:25:39 PM

Quote from: wise on May 03, 2019, 05:18:32 AM

Again, something which is absent does not need an evidence.

Stop lying.
Again, if I claim turkey doesn't exist, you would expect me to provide evidence of that claim.

In any given debate, both sides can be required to provide evidence.
As evidence of these flights have been provided to you, the burden of proof now rests upon you to prove they do not exist.

Now either provide evidence that these flights don't exist or go address how these flights work on a FE.

Nope. You're doing a mistake.

If you claim Turkey's not being exist, so I have to prove its being exist first. After I've prove its existance, then you have to put forward your evidences of its being absent.

So much so that, till somebody prove Turkey's being exist, you can free to accept its being absent. Are not atheists literally these people? They say God does not exist, and since we can not prove its existance, they are free to not believe. We can not force them to believe God depends on our own evidences. We have to prove first God's existance. Can we do this? No. So they are free to not believing the God. Our tickets through heaven can not be an evidence for convince you God's being exist.

This is same simple logic but you and your friends are closing your eyes to the truth.

Ok, I claim Turkey does not exist. According to you, you now have to prove that it does. Otherwise, my claim is correct, Turkey does not exist. Your turn.

You can open google maps and watch videos from Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir, Antalya and other cities. If you want a spesific evidence I can show you thousands of videos from streets of any city. I can even put forward some full time flight videos from any of European city to main Turkish cities.

Your turn.

You can open google maps and see flight routes from Santiago to Melbourne or Sydney and even buy tickets but you believe that to be fake. I believe the videos from Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir, Antalya and other cities to be fake. Just like Hollywood uses Toronto streets as Manhattan streets. As for specific evidence showing me thousands of videos from streets of any city, is just that 'any city'. I'm not convinced they would be from some mythical land you call 'Turkey'. As for putting forward some full time flight videos from any of European city to main Turkish cities, yes I would like to see them.

All in all, I believe Turkey does not exist. Simple as that.

Nope. You're doing a mistake.

Not in the slightest. I am pointing out the insanity of your position.

If you claim Turkey's not being exist, so I have to prove its being exist first. After I've prove its existance, then you have to put forward your evidences of its being absent.

According to you all I need to do is just reject all the evidence you provide and then repeat my baseless assertion and claim I have no burden of proof.

You have been provided with evidence that these flights exist. Enough to prove they exist to any sane person beyond any sane doubt.
But rather than accept it and admit your map is wrong you reject and try using any pathetic excuses you can.

So the burden is now on you to prove these flights don't exist.

Are not atheists literally these people? They say God does not exist

No. An atheist is anyone that doesn't believe in a god.
They might have no idea what a god is.
They might just simply accept that its existence has not been established as there is no evidence for any god.
Or they might go a step further and believe that gods do not exist or even claim to know they don't.

Again, there are mountains of evidence for these flights.
You have plenty of places where you can buy a ticket to go on these flights.
You have airports listing these planes as arriving and departing. You can watch them come and go.
You can track them for at least a significant portion of their journey on flight trackers.
You have plenty of people claiming to have flown them.
You have even been provided with a time lapse video of one.

This is plenty of evidence to establish that these flights do in fact exist.
The burden of proving these flights exist has been met.
But you reject it all for the simple reason that it shows you are wrong.
You have no justification for claiming they don't exist.
You have no justification for why these airlines would lie and claim they exist.
You have no justification for why these airlines would allow people to purchase tickets or pretend to fly these routes (assuming they don't exist).

Now, do you have any evidence that these flights don't exist?

Now, do you have any evidence that these flights don't exist?

You have to prove their being existed.

Since you've not an evidence of their being exist, So you have agreed you have not an evidence and these flights are lie, right?

Sorry I don't get adress your other arguments was just childish insulting tries like every post you try to do with your ignorant and childish mind.

Quote from: JackBlack on May 05, 2019, 02:45:19 PM

Now, do you have any evidence that these flights don't exist?

You have to prove their being existed.

Since you've not an evidence of their being exist, So you have agreed you have not an evidence and these flights are lie, right?

Sorry I don't get adress your other arguments was just childish insulting tries like every post you try to do with your ignorant and childish mind.

There are departure and arrival details along with the flight track plus the ticket sales.  Same as any other flight.

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 12:23:07 AM

Quote from: JackBlack on May 05, 2019, 02:45:19 PM

Now, do you have any evidence that these flights don't exist?

You have to prove their being existed.

Since you've not an evidence of their being exist, So you have agreed you have not an evidence and these flights are lie, right?

Sorry I don't get adress your other arguments was just childish insulting tries like every post you try to do with your ignorant and childish mind.

There are departure and arrival details along with the flight track plus the ticket sales.  Same as any other flight.

Others have flight record.

Quote from: inquisitive on May 06, 2019, 12:47:08 AM

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 12:23:07 AM

Quote from: JackBlack on May 05, 2019, 02:45:19 PM

Now, do you have any evidence that these flights don't exist?

You have to prove their being existed.

Since you've not an evidence of their being exist, So you have agreed you have not an evidence and these flights are lie, right?

Sorry I don't get adress your other arguments was just childish insulting tries like every post you try to do with your ignorant and childish mind.

There are departure and arrival details along with the flight track plus the ticket sales.  Same as any other flight.

Others have flight record.

This flight has same records.

Since you've not an evidence of their being exist

Stop lying.
You have been provided with the evidence countless times.
You have been unable to show any problem with the evidence.

Now do you have any evidence that these flights don't exist?

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 01:19:12 AM

Quote from: inquisitive on May 06, 2019, 12:47:08 AM

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 12:23:07 AM

Quote from: JackBlack on May 05, 2019, 02:45:19 PM

Now, do you have any evidence that these flights don't exist?

You have to prove their being existed.

Since you've not an evidence of their being exist, So you have agreed you have not an evidence and these flights are lie, right?

Sorry I don't get adress your other arguments was just childish insulting tries like every post you try to do with your ignorant and childish mind.

There are departure and arrival details along with the flight track plus the ticket sales.  Same as any other flight.

Others have flight record.

This flight has same records.

Nope. This flight hasen't any full time flight video. So you'll accept this flight's does not exist, right?

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 12:23:07 AM

Since you've not an evidence of their being exist

Stop lying.
You have been provided with the evidence countless times.
You have been unable to show any problem with the evidence.

Now do you have any evidence that these flights don't exist?

Nope. You are saying lie. No video, no evidence. If there was any, so why can not show a full time video? You know they are absent. You know you are liar. You know the earth is flat.

@wise

Are you ignoring me because you don't have an answer? How could I see Antarctica when flying from Perth to Jo'burg? What was the speed of our 747

Nope. This flight hasen't any full time flight video. So you'll accept this flight's does not exist, right?

Nope! Numerous real flights have no "full time flight video". Having no "full time flight video" means nothing at all!
Whatever you believe or don't believe means nothing. Those flights are real and millions of people have flown on them.

@wise

Are you ignoring me because you don't have an answer? How could I see Antarctica when flying from Perth to Jo'burg? What was the speed of our 747

Your thoughts are nothing but seemingly just bullshitting. He is your patron and it is enough I reply him.

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 02:38:20 AM

Nope. This flight hasen't any full time flight video. So you'll accept this flight's does not exist, right?

Nope! Numerous real flights have no "full time flight video". Having no "full time flight video" means nothing at all!
Whatever you believe or don't believe means nothing. Those flights are real and millions of people have flown on them.

Prove them with a full time video!  Come on rabinoz, who do you think to deceive? If there was millions of passangers those Qantas claims, so would not there at least hundreds of full time videos taken by rich Australians. We know Australians are rich, right? All of them are not like you.

If there was millions of passangers those Qantas claims, so would not there at least hundreds of full time videos.

Who wants to waste their time taking a continuous video anywhere from 11 to 13 hours long just to convince you?

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 03:20:50 AM

If there was millions of passangers those Qantas claims, so would not there at least hundreds of full time videos.

Who wants to waste their time taking a continuous video anywhere from 11 to 13 hours long just to convince you?

Time to end a pointless discussion. Let him think he is right. He should dispute the WGS-84 model with those that constructed it and not random people on an internet forum.

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 03:20:50 AM

If there was millions of passangers those Qantas claims, so would not there at least hundreds of full time videos.

Who wants to waste their time taking a continuous video anywhere from 11 to 13 hours long just to convince you?

Nope. Thousands of people are doing it for as an social media activity. People are sharing it and other follow/like. They have not to do it for me, they have to do it for themselves. But you know their do this is impossible. Stop to produce excuse. You know it is impossible. So you know the earth is flat.


And also, listen him:

Quote from: rabinoz on May 06, 2019, 03:32:08 AM

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 03:20:50 AM

If there was millions of passangers those Qantas claims, so would not there at least hundreds of full time videos.

Who wants to waste their time taking a continuous video anywhere from 11 to 13 hours long just to convince you?

Time to end a pointless discussion. Let him think he is right. He should dispute the WGS-84 model with those that constructed it and not random people on an internet forum.

Yeah, let me think I have won.

<< Nothing useful >>

You  can keep carry on as long as you like.

Quote from: inquisitive on May 06, 2019, 01:23:20 AM

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 01:19:12 AM

Quote from: inquisitive on May 06, 2019, 12:47:08 AM

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 12:23:07 AM

Quote from: JackBlack on May 05, 2019, 02:45:19 PM

Now, do you have any evidence that these flights don't exist?

You have to prove their being existed.

Since you've not an evidence of their being exist, So you have agreed you have not an evidence and these flights are lie, right?

Sorry I don't get adress your other arguments was just childish insulting tries like every post you try to do with your ignorant and childish mind.

There are departure and arrival details along with the flight track plus the ticket sales.  Same as any other flight.

Others have flight record.

This flight has same records.

Nope. This flight hasen't any full time flight video. So you'll accept this flight's does not exist, right?

There is no full time video between Tokyo and so-called "Istanbul". So you'll accept this flight's does not exist, right?

Quote from: rabinoz on May 06, 2019, 03:32:08 AM

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 03:20:50 AM

If there was millions of passangers those Qantas claims, so would not there at least hundreds of full time videos.

Who wants to waste their time taking a continuous video anywhere from 11 to 13 hours long just to convince you?

Nope. Thousands of people are doing it for as an social media activity. People are sharing it and other follow/like. They have not to do it for me, they have to do it for themselves. But you know their do this is impossible. Stop to produce excuse. You know it is impossible. So you know the earth is flat.


And also, listen him:

Quote from: inquisitive on May 06, 2019, 03:42:28 AM

Quote from: rabinoz on May 06, 2019, 03:32:08 AM

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 03:20:50 AM

If there was millions of passangers those Qantas claims, so would not there at least hundreds of full time videos.

Who wants to waste their time taking a continuous video anywhere from 11 to 13 hours long just to convince you?

Time to end a pointless discussion. Let him think he is right. He should dispute the WGS-84 model with those that constructed it and not random people on an internet forum.

Yeah, let me think I have won.

Not about winning, satellite operation uses the round earth.

Quote from: inquisitive on May 06, 2019, 01:23:20 AM

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 01:19:12 AM

Quote from: inquisitive on May 06, 2019, 12:47:08 AM

Quote from: wise on May 06, 2019, 12:23:07 AM

Quote from: JackBlack on May 05, 2019, 02:45:19 PM

Now, do you have any evidence that these flights don't exist?

You have to prove their being existed.

Since you've not an evidence of their being exist, So you have agreed you have not an evidence and these flights are lie, right?

Sorry I don't get adress your other arguments was just childish insulting tries like every post you try to do with your ignorant and childish mind.

There are departure and arrival details along with the flight track plus the ticket sales.  Same as any other flight.

Others have flight record.

This flight has same records.

Nope. This flight hasen't any full time flight video. So you'll accept this flight's does not exist, right?

Turkish Airlines claims to have a non-stop from Los Angeles to so-called "Istanbul". This flight hasn't any full time flight video. So you'll accept this flight's does not exist, right? Turkish Airlines are liars. Turkey does not exist.

Nope. This flight hasen't any full time flight video.

You have been provided with one, just a time-lapse version.
But even if it didn't, so what?
Missing one specific, flimsy type of evidence which you would just dismiss as CGI doesn't disprove it.
There is still plenty of other evidence of their existence.

You haven't even provided full time video for the thousands of flights you claim are real.
This shows an extremely dishonest double standard.
You happily accept the flights that agree with you and dismiss those that show you to be wrong.
It has nothing to do with the available evidence and is entirely to do with if it shows you are wrong or not.

If you want to demand a non-time-lapsed, full time video of the flight, then go take the flight yourself and record the video.
If you want to use that as a standard of evidence, then do so for the thousands of other flights you use happily without a video.

Now, I ask again, do you have any evidence these flights are fake? If you don't have such evidence then apologise for repeatedly lying about people and airlines and stop claiming they are fake.

Now, I ask again, do you have any evidence these flights are fake? If you don't have such evidence then apologise for repeatedly lying about people and airlines and stop claiming they are fake.

Once again, I have no to disprove anything. First you have to prove its being exist. So you have to apologise to say lie about a route is not exist but you are saying its existance.

Quote from: JackBlack on May 06, 2019, 02:47:53 PM

Now, I ask again, do you have any evidence these flights are fake? If you don't have such evidence then apologise for repeatedly lying about people and airlines and stop claiming they are fake.

Once again, I have no to disprove anything. First you have to prove its being exist. So you have to apologise to say lie about a route is not exist but you are saying its existance.

Is this your logic:

- There is no full time video between Tokyo and so-called "Istanbul". So you'll accept this flight's does not exist, right?
- Turkish Airlines claims to have a non-stop from Los Angeles to so-called "Istanbul". This flight hasn't any full time flight video. So you'll accept this flight's does not exist, right?

Once again, I have no to disprove anything. First you have to prove its being exist. So you have to apologise to say lie about a route is not exist but you are saying its existance.

Yes, you do have to prove your claim!
You are the one making the claim that these well accepted and regular airline flights do not even exist so it's up to you to prove your case with real evidence.

And nobody, other than you, has been lying here so you are the one who should apologise to Australians, South Americans and South Africans for claiming that their airlines are actively deceiving people.

And with QANTAS you have gone further and suggested that QANTAS is SATANIC and killing millions of passengers.

Now, Mr Wise, JackBlack, myself and other Australians do not take kindly to you denigrating our country like that so I demand your apology forthwith!

Once again, I have no to disprove anything.

Once again, YES YOU DO!
You have been provided with plenty of evidence to prove it exists.
As such, the burden is now on you.
You ignoring the evidence or dismissing it because it doesn't meet your ridiculous standards doesn't magically mean there isn't evidence for it.

Again, if you want to claim these flights don't exist and that these airlines are lying, you need to back up your claims.

Wise, if you feel SO confident in yourself, fly this route yourself. While you're there, time it, and time lapse the whole video. On the flight, you will notice how you will not see any major land continents, which the fastest route on the flat earth shows. You will see nothing but blue ocean, and a possible chance to see Antarctica. This is confirmed by flight times. I was able to find a video from from Sydney to South Africa flying through QANTAS.

This is more a vlog-type video, but has important time stamps.
7:50 The current location where the plane is with a video of the ocean, no land continents. Also, notice the plane going towards Antarctica on the map. As I said before, the most efficient route from Perth to Johannesburg is traveling through Southern Asia, which is not what he observed!
11:12 "We were able to fly south toward the Antarctic rim" as he shows a picture of icebergs in his video through scattered clouds. Notice the tracking of the plane perfectly matching his observations. Right by Antarctica on the flight path, and can clearly see icebergs.

Yet another video.

1:10 Clear visibility of icebergs. Films it for the rest of the video.

So when you say,

Prove them with a full time video!  Come on rabinoz, who do you think to deceive? If there was millions of passangers those Qantas claims, so would not there at least hundreds of full time videos taken by rich Australians. We know Australians are rich, right? All of them are not like you.

you clearly have done 0 research.

I was able to find a video from from Sydney to South Africa flying through QANTAS.

His ridiculous demand is for one which isn't time-lapsed, i.e. a real time flight.

Yes, you do have to prove your claim!

Once again, YES YOU DO!

Are not you alone resisting me so making a coalition? Sure, you know I am smatrer than sum of you two. So you are trying to strengthen your thesis by repeating them. But result is same.

I am not one who has a claim here. You two twin brothers have a claim of its being exist, so you have to prove its existance. After I see evidences show its being exist, I can appeal it. Till that time, there is nothing to appeal.

<empty evidence>

None of them are a full time video. Because you know, it is not exist. So that your baseless claims are not evidences.

Quote from: Unepic Globetard on May 06, 2019, 08:08:53 PM

<empty evidence>

None of them are a full time video. Because you know, it is not exist. So that your baseless claims are not evidences.

Why is the sale of tickets and actual departure and arrival times on the airport websites not sufficient for you? Does this also apply to flights east-west across Australia?