Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?

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Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« on: March 07, 2019, 07:09:35 PM »
After someone greets "How are you" is it not proper to say "I'm fine". If so, why?
In our English lesson books it's taught to say "I'm fine". Maybe followed with "thank you and you?" etc.

Please clarify this matter for me. Thanks. 8)
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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2019, 07:14:36 PM »
Sometimes I reply, "I could complain but nobody cares  ;D."

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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2019, 01:36:05 AM »

In Britain this interaction is correct, probably respond with “I’m fine, how are you?”, this is not an opportunity for either of the proponents to list minor ailments, the British frown on public displays of this kind, anything short of a Tiger currently gnawing on your leg should be glossed over.

Responses such as Bully’s, "I could complain but nobody cares “are seen as desperate attempts to illicit sympathy or extend a pleasant meaningless greeting into a conversation nobody wants. I would ignore Bully on my next encounter.
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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2019, 01:55:52 AM »

Even the Tiger should be down played along the lines;

“Bit of a twinge on the old leg sometimes”

This gives the original advocate the chance to offer assistance without offending.

“Well I’ve got this shotgun thingy that might just help, if you have a minute of course?”

Accepting should be done graciously, without histrionics.

“Well if you don’t mind” rather than “Yes for fucks sake get the bastard thing off”

If the situation is successfully concluded, that you owe him a favour is taken for granted and not mentioned, thank them simply. No hugging or tears.
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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2019, 05:34:50 AM »

Responses such as Bully’s, "I could complain but nobody cares “are seen as desperate attempts to illicit sympathy or extend a pleasant meaningless greeting into a conversation nobody wants. I would ignore Bully on my next encounter.



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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2019, 05:43:20 AM »
One could also respond with "Oh, no, no, how are you?"
Though this kind of oneupmanship may have unpredictable results. Use carefully, and only when you are already practiced at the correct response in case you need to recover.

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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2019, 05:44:05 AM »
My suggestion is to scream "reeeeeee" and run away.

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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2019, 05:58:42 AM »

Responses such as Bully’s, "I could complain but nobody cares “are seen as desperate attempts to illicit sympathy or extend a pleasant meaningless greeting into a conversation nobody wants. I would ignore Bully on my next encounter.



How are you, Jura-Glenlivet II?

I'm fine bully, how are you?
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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2019, 06:21:50 AM »
Sometimes I reply, "I could complain but nobody cares  ;D."

I agree wih this.
Just say hi.
You dont want to know my issues.
Dont pretend in an attempt at social politeness.
Just as polite to say good day/ hello.

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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2019, 06:23:32 AM »

Responses such as Bully’s, "I could complain but nobody cares “are seen as desperate attempts to illicit sympathy or extend a pleasant meaningless greeting into a conversation nobody wants. I would ignore Bully on my next encounter.

How are you, Jura-Glenlivet II?

I'm fine bully, how are you?

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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2019, 06:42:59 AM »
If the person isn't a close friend saying "I'm fine" and then asking them how they are is all that needs to be done. It's just a polite greeting. If the person is someone you are close friends with, or someone you know about, then it could be an opening to discuss more details.
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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2019, 07:43:07 AM »
If I say "I'm fine" to my wife, she takes it that things are indeed not fine. I take this comes from the general habit of women themselves saying they are fine when they are not.
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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2019, 08:29:27 AM »

Yes this cannot be stated enough, if you ask a significant female other how they are and they reply “fine”, further investigation is immediately necessary, as in this case it means “Of course I’m not fine fuckhead, you have seriously pissed me off and have about 15 seconds to remedy it!”
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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2019, 06:50:18 PM »
Good informations, guys.

Basically the word "fine" is okay, right?

I watched on Youtube in which the response "I'm fine" is considered bad/impolite for the greeting "how are you". The greeter would be confused or a bit freaked out. But at that time I didn't too focus about the reason why that response is considered bad.

Perhaps it applies only in certain country or what?
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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2019, 05:47:13 AM »
Generally if it's someone I know as a mere acquaintance and they say "how are you" I generally respond with, " not too bad, how's yourself?"

I never use the word " I'm fine" Unless I'm actually not in a very happy frame of mind.
I think using "I'm fine" seems to indicate a standoffish stance. Obviously that's based on my own thinking of it and how I see it.

Moods and wellbeing change things.

Response to "how are you. (how you doing)"

" Could be better, but then again couldn't we all....you?"
"Champion (champo) how's you (yourself)?"
"Tickety" as in tickety boo.
" I'm ok bud, mate, kidder, how's tricks?" In the case of a male.
" I'm doing ok, are you ok?" Said to a female.

A whole host of other stuff comes out depending on the timing and situation and location.



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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2019, 06:25:15 AM »
The word "fine" comes with the challenge of being contextually aware of what else is happening when it is used, plus possibly mind reading. It's not a bad or rude response to say "I'm fine" when asked "How are you?" but you probably want to augment the phrase to reciprocate the pleasantry. Something like "I'm fine, and you?"

I find the times when "fine" most frequently doesn't really mean "fine" are when my wife uses that single word as a sentence all by itself.

That all made for a nice appetizer. Here's the main course. It's MUCH more fun to get into an extended exchange of antipleasantries with someone in the following manner:

Hello, friend.
I'm not your friend, buddy.
I'm not your buddy, guy.
Don't call me guy, pal.
I'm not your pal, friend.

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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2019, 06:20:41 PM »
"better than an inner son-in-law". It is about equal a position between "so so" and bad.

kinship relationships are defined missing at many points in english.

Think a man: groom. He is your son in law.

When a groom lives with his wife's family all together, we define it as "inner groom", or "inner son in law".

We sometime reply the "how are you" with "so so" meaning "a few better than inner son in law". It seems a positive reply because contains being better than anything but considering the mood of an inner groom it turns a negative meaning.
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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2019, 06:43:57 PM »
Good informations, guys.

Basically the word "fine" is okay, right?

I watched on Youtube in which the response "I'm fine" is considered bad/impolite for the greeting "how are you". The greeter would be confused or a bit freaked out. But at that time I didn't too focus about the reason why that response is considered bad.

Perhaps it applies only in certain country or what?

They're probably teaching you a somewhat more proper form of English.  Sort of like when they tell you to never begin a sentence with a word like 'and' or 'but'.

Some socially acceptable but more colloquial responses to the question would include:

Great
Perfect
Good
Go fuck yourself!
The fuck do you care?
Did you just call me the 'N' word?
I'm not interested in your penis!
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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2019, 03:29:18 AM »
Coollll...  8) Thanks guys...

Learning is always interesting...as long as... at outside schools. 8)
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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2019, 10:21:55 PM »
After someone greets "How are you" is it not proper to say "I'm fine". If so, why?
In our English lesson books it's taught so. Please clarify this matter for me. Thanks. 8)
At least in my slice of the English speaking world, you should be slightly overstating how you are neutrally. So "I'm good" or "Pretty good" are all proper responses.

If you want some slang, instead of saying "I'm fine" say "I'm aight (EYE-t)" or "I g (jhee)". You'll be fitting in with those urban youths in no time!

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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2019, 08:05:41 AM »
When people ask how I am, I like to tell it like it is.  I will tell them about the flem that I spat up, how my boss is a jerk, and how I think the athlete's foot fungus seems to be clearing up.  If they don't say, "Yeah, well see you later," I will try to discuss politics with them. 

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Re: Is it not right to say "I'm fine" ?
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2019, 10:51:55 PM »
Yep, language is related to culture and social context. This is the interesting part. 8)

Let's take another example: after somebody says "thank you" the responses are various:

"You're welcome"
"No worries"
"No problem"
"My pleasure"
Etc.

For the response "you're welcome", do you have any idea why it is said so?
Or is this response only a custom without necessarily related to something?

We express "thank you" with "terima kasih". "Terima"="to accept", "kasih"="to give" or "to love". So by semantic "terima kasih" = "accept, give" or "accept, love"
We don't know why the expression is "terima kasih".
And then somebody explained about its philosophy: "After you accept good thing from somebody, you must also give good thing to him/her someday to show your gratitude".

Well, that's a good idea even though parents and teachers never explained to kids about it.
It's likely the said philosophy is related to original teachings in the past which almost all people at present don't know about it.
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