Flat earth on netflix! EEEEEEEEEE!

Bob says that he never touched the device and Jeran says that the Behind The Curve documentary team was given the role of documenting the whole experiment with video and then they refused to provide him with a copy.

Bob says that he never touched the device and Jeran says that the Behind The Curve documentary team was given the role of documenting the whole experiment with video and then they refused to provide him with a copy.

I don't think it matters whether he touched the device or not. He seemed to speak with tremendous knowledge of the device and about the experiment itself. He sure seemed like an authority in the movie.

And Jeran, all words.

Both could provide evidence but choose not to even when pressed by the community.

Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 07, 2019, 03:39:59 PM

Bob says that he never touched the device and Jeran says that the Behind The Curve documentary team was given the role of documenting the whole experiment with video and then they refused to provide him with a copy.

I don't think it matters whether he touched the device or not. He seemed to speak with tremendous knowledge of the device and about the experiment itself. He sure seemed like an authority in the movie.

And Jeran, all words.

Both could provide evidence but choose not to even when pressed by the community.

What are you talking about? We do have evidence that the depiction of the experiment was fraudulent.

Quote from: Stash on March 07, 2019, 04:23:51 PM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on March 07, 2019, 03:39:59 PM

Bob says that he never touched the device and Jeran says that the Behind The Curve documentary team was given the role of documenting the whole experiment with video and then they refused to provide him with a copy.

I don't think it matters whether he touched the device or not. He seemed to speak with tremendous knowledge of the device and about the experiment itself. He sure seemed like an authority in the movie.

And Jeran, all words.

Both could provide evidence but choose not to even when pressed by the community.

What are you talking about? We do have evidence that the depiction of the experiment was fraudulent.

If you think evidence is just Jeran & Knodel just saying things were taken out of context, then you don't know what evidence is.

Knodel won't even talk about the RFG experiments in specifics and Jeran won't even talk about the flashlight experiment in specifcs. I see no evidence.

Sunrise and Sunset at the same time 

It's not just unfair treatment. Behind the Curve contains fraud in how it depicts the Jeran experiment. If I had the power to submit announcements on this website I would write one for this website as well, with a title of "Behind the Curve: Scientific Fraud". Netflix is bringing many people into the discussions and they just need to know.

That is clearly not how the experiment went down. It is pretty pathetic that they would need to resort to fraud to support their model.

Write one up and I'll post it here and on our facebook page.

Bob says that he never touched the device...

But Bob did say that the results obtained by the people that did touch the device were a serious problem for FET.

These new guys don't have the decades of experience of round earthers fucking with them like we do. Its too bad they hate us so much, as their ignorance at times does more damage to our cause than any 'controlled opposition' ever could.

Bob says that he never touched the device and Jeran says that the Behind The Curve documentary team was given the role of documenting the whole experiment with video and then they refused to provide him with a copy.

Wow, Bob’s defense is total bollocks.  Here’s just the immediately obvious points:

1. He claims “no scientist in the history of mankind has ever ever ever ever measured the Earth’s rotation or motion”.  Complete crap. 

Rotation was first measured directly by Foucault’s pendulum in 1851 (although not particularly accurately, due to friction).  It’s more accurately measured today by, guess what- a ring laser or fiber optic gyroscope.

The Earths motion around the sun is measured (indirectly) by stellar aberration, stellar parallax, etc.

Hard to believe Bob isn’t aware of this, so I’m going to call it a blatant lie.

2.  “Ballers” aren’t “desperate” enough to rely on Flat Earther results.  FECore are not in possession of the world’s only fiber optic gyro, there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of the things in out in the world.  All people are doing is pointing out that FECore got the same results as everyone else.

3.  Bob explained straight to camera the purpose and result of the gyro test, and then was filmed telling someone that releasing the results to the flat earth community would be bad.  What did he expect to happen?  He has no one else to blame.

Quote from: markjo on March 07, 2019, 12:36:49 PM

What about the countless other people all over YouTube who do report seeing convexity at such distances?

That's fine. Rowbotham reported sinking as well in some environments, which is why the Bedford Canal and it's narrow passageways was selected.

No one is calling those people liars. Rowbotham calls into question the validity of Aristotile's first proof that the earth is a globe based on the inconsistency of the effect.

It is fairly well established that people can and have seen further than what RET should allow.

But no one has ever seen as far as a flat earth should allow.

every experiment that a flat earther does is scientific fraud because there isnt a single experiment that can ever be designed to prove a flat earth because the earth isnt flat. lies and deception is the only outcome of any experiment a flat earther can do until they realise and accept the earth is round

It isn't a case of scientific fraud. Firstly, none of the participants are scientists. Secondly, the participants in the experiment are practicing group think, tunnel vision, and confirmation bias. They aren't deliberately trying to deceive.