Major world leaders and FE

Perhaps some future president might actually serve the people by revealing the truth of FE. That leader could start by telling everyone that the govt departments such as the intelligence services or NOAA or the armed services or NASA re AGW are all wrong and get everyone used to the idea of a president correcting history, science, and foreign affairs. In the midst of such revelations, announcing FE would be completely appropriate.

If only we had a president who fearlessly called out lies. Someone should tell that president about FE. Of course, they might only watch cable news, no youtube, the Oracle of FE, so you'll have to get his attention. Seems like that kind of person (the experts are lying!) would be open to FE. And FE would be another belief the group could hold to contrast itself with REs and their professors and textbooks and papers and experiments that produce "facts" that some of us don't like, particularly conflicts with OT.

Perhaps some future president might actually serve the people by revealing the truth of FE. That leader could start by telling everyone that the govt departments such as the intelligence services or NOAA or the armed services or NASA re AGW are all wrong and get everyone used to the idea of a president correcting history, science, and foreign affairs. In the midst of such revelations, announcing FE would be completely appropriate.

If only we had a president who fearlessly called out lies. Someone should tell that president about FE. Of course, they might only watch cable news, no youtube, the Oracle of FE, so you'll have to get his attention. Seems like that kind of person (the experts are lying!) would be open to FE. And FE would be another belief the group could hold to contrast itself with REs and their professors and textbooks and papers and experiments that produce "facts" that some of us don't like, particularly conflicts with OT.

What "world leaders" have ever made any pronouncements on the shape of the earth?
There was Barack Obama joking that "We don't have time for a meeting of The Flat Earth Society" but that was hardly a pronouncement either way.

The nearest to such a "pronouncement on the shape of the earth" might have been in Galileo's time of "The Church's" insistence that the earth was stationary and at the centre of the Universe.
But the shape of the earth, even then, was never an "article of faith" though they did obviously believed that the earth is a Globe,
"For truly it is an orb placed in the centre of the universe; in its width it is like a circle, and not circular like a shield but rather like a ball." The Venerable Bede.

But what "Major world leaders" have made pronouncements on the shape of the earth - they just accepted what has been known for millennia.

Aha, Trump could be that guy! Convince him of FE (easy, Obama thought it was round). He announces that NASA has been fooling us about FE as well as AGW. He announces the earth is flat. Trump and the FEs join together as bring the truth of FE to his base! They will eat it up! A merger of FES and GOP to do so many great things! Trump, GOP, FES, very stable geniuses!

Next up, Trump orders NASA to make an FE map with a scale using their FE knowledge. We finally get accurate maps!

Don't forget about the one and only true, fragrant map: PHEW FE Map ~

I wonder when Jimster began to support FE?

I wonder when Jimster began to support FE?

He doesn't!  Ever heard of sarcasm ?

Aha, Trump could be that guy! Convince him of FE (easy, Obama thought it was round). He announces that NASA has been fooling us about FE as well as AGW. He announces the earth is flat. Trump and the FEs join together as bring the truth of FE to his base! They will eat it up! A merger of FES and GOP to do so many great things! Trump, GOP, FES, very stable geniuses!

Next up, Trump orders NASA to make an FE map with a scale using their FE knowledge. We finally get accurate maps!

This has some potential...  Trump proved Obama’s birth certificate was fake, calling out Obama’s ridicule of the FE movement and ending this RE nonsense would be his legacy!  That would surely cement him as a great leader. Imagine the history books all proclaiming how Trump ended the RE conspiracy.  He would be remembered as the greatest leader in the history of the world.  New Nobel prizes could just stop being handed out with Trump getting the last one. The ultimate Nobel.  The new prizes would have to be called Trump Prizes. 

Quote from: Danang on March 01, 2019, 06:42:40 PM

I wonder when Jimster began to support FE?

He doesn't!  Ever heard of sarcasm ?

Jimster doesn't belong to sarcastic type of persons. 

Quote from: rabinoz on March 01, 2019, 08:50:55 PM

Quote from: Danang on March 01, 2019, 06:42:40 PM

I wonder when Jimster began to support FE?

He doesn't!  Ever heard of sarcasm ?

Jimster doesn't belong to sarcastic type of persons. 

How would you know?

Quote from: Danang on March 02, 2019, 02:13:01 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on March 01, 2019, 08:50:55 PM

Quote from: Danang on March 01, 2019, 06:42:40 PM

I wonder when Jimster began to support FE?

He doesn't!  Ever heard of sarcasm ?

Jimster doesn't belong to sarcastic type of persons. 

How would you know?

By using Phew.

#JustKidding

Quote from: jimster on March 01, 2019, 05:56:30 PM

Aha, Trump could be that guy! Convince him of FE (easy, Obama thought it was round). He announces that NASA has been fooling us about FE as well as AGW. He announces the earth is flat. Trump and the FEs join together as bring the truth of FE to his base! They will eat it up! A merger of FES and GOP to do so many great things! Trump, GOP, FES, very stable geniuses!

Next up, Trump orders NASA to make an FE map with a scale using their FE knowledge. We finally get accurate maps!

This has some potential...  Trump proved Obama’s birth certificate was fake, calling out Obama’s ridicule of the FE movement and ending this RE nonsense would be his legacy!  That would surely cement him as a great leader. Imagine the history books all proclaiming how Trump ended the RE conspiracy.  He would be remembered as the greatest leader in the history of the world.  New Nobel prizes could just stop being handed out with Trump getting the last one. The ultimate Nobel.  The new prizes would have to be called Trump Prizes.

Make America Flat Again...MAFA!

Quote from: jimster on March 01, 2019, 05:56:30 PM

Aha, Trump could be that guy! Convince him of FE (easy, Obama thought it was round). He announces that NASA has been fooling us about FE as well as AGW. He announces the earth is flat. Trump and the FEs join together as bring the truth of FE to his base! They will eat it up! A merger of FES and GOP to do so many great things! Trump, GOP, FES, very stable geniuses!

Next up, Trump orders NASA to make an FE map with a scale using their FE knowledge. We finally get accurate maps!

This has some potential...  Trump proved Obama’s birth certificate was fake, calling out Obama’s ridicule of the FE movement and ending this RE nonsense would be his legacy!  That would surely cement him as a great leader. Imagine the history books all proclaiming how Trump ended the RE conspiracy.  He would be remembered as the greatest leader in the history of the world.  New Nobel prizes could just stop being handed out with Trump getting the last one. The ultimate Nobel.  The new prizes would have to be called Trump Prizes.

Classic case of FE misinformation, fact distortion and fake news. Trump in the real world never proved Obama’s birth certificate was fake, because it wasn’t.
This is why the FE way of thinking is like a cancer of the mind, where the truth is eaten away and all that’s left is a rotten husk made of nothing more than blind belief.

Quote from: Danang on March 01, 2019, 06:42:40 PM

I wonder when Jimster began to support FE?

He doesn't!  Ever heard of sarcasm ?

You know everything about Danang is upside down. Kinda like he has been permanently hit by Hirako Shinji's shikai.

When I imagine Danang is trying to make REs crazy and laughs at them for taking him seriously and responding, it makes perfect sense. He gives short answers, why waste time? Keeps giving the same answer even when confronted repeatedly. Looks like he is trying for maximum frustration with minimum effort. His phew video, as I recall, was a couple simple statements and music playing while showing his map, as I recall it was quite long. If he was trying to get REs to watch as much nonsense as possible for minimal effort s part, good job.

My number one vote for troll on FES. Try looking at him that way, and see if his posts ring true in that light. Also, when he says "Jimster isn't a sarcastic person" after I was clearly sarcastic, isn't that sarcasm? Good work, recursive sarcasm, if you are sarcastic about sarcasm, does it cancel out, or is it twice as sarcastic?

Anybody catch #justkidding after his"try the phew map". Oh tell me you didn't break character! Is nothing sacred?

At first I thought Danang was Q. Now I think he is Trump, trying to get intel on flat earth so he can take it over and use it to his advantage. Trump/FES for supreme leader!

Aha, Trump could be that guy! Convince him of FE (easy, Obama thought it was round). He announces that NASA has been fooling us about FE as well as AGW. He announces the earth is flat. Trump and the FEs join together as bring the truth of FE to his base! They will eat it up! A merger of FES and GOP to do so many great things! Trump, GOP, FES, very stable geniuses!

Next up, Trump orders NASA to make an FE map with a scale using their FE knowledge. We finally get accurate maps!

If you are going to try and convince a group of people to believe in complete bullshit, you would have a far easier time with liberals and the Democratic party.  Just toss it up on CNN and make a meme.  Mission accomplished.

No, it is hard to convince liberals of anything, true or false, because they use committees, spreadsheets, academic studies, science, etc. Liberals make everything complicated. And because all complex system contains inconsistencies, they are forever crazy mad from trying to get closure on universal consistency.

Conservatives are gut feel people, aligned with their allies, getting info from "trusted sources". They don't do consistency checks, ie calling anti-Trumpers liars as though that disqualified everything they say, while explaining and excusing an ocean of lies from Trump, even just the things where there are recordings of him saying two opposite things.

To get liberals to believe something, you need studies, debate, info, logic, and all that from multiple sources.

To get conservatives to believe something, you just need to get Trump, Fox, Sinclair to say the same things. For example, they say stopping illegal immigration will reduce rape and murder. While it is true that some illegal immigrants have raped and murdered, the number is tiny compared to the total number of rapes and murders. Even a completely effective wall would have minimal effect on rape and murder rates, yet they are all talking about it.

Liberals would never call themselves "dittoheads".

To get liberals to believe something, you need studies, debate, info, logic, and all that from multiple sources.

LMFAO.  You have clearly not been paying attention at all.  Studies, debate, info and logic are literally the greatest fears of your average liberal.

So... sometimes trolls can not always  be identified easily. Not all 'serious' persons are really serious. Some of them might be trolls too as so far founded here once in a while.

This thread is misleading. For the sake of sincere visitors who are searching for valid information, this thread should be moved to AR or CN. #report

My daughter graduated from UC Berkeley with a 3.8 gpa and is currently in grad school working on master's and will undoubtedly get a phd. Sociology, she is studying how to research, poll, and analyze big data with ther goal of working for a govt to use those skills to inform decision makers of what will make communities healthy and happy. She minored in public policy, which is about using spreadsheet math to get the most value out of each taxpayer dollar, for instance would our $1M save more lives if we spend it on improved highway gaurdrails, more police, more hospitals, etc.

If you want to convince her about a political issue, you will need: Data correctly analyzed, multiple sources, very logic and mathy. The liberals I know are like that, although not as extreme.

Who are you going to get technical details from, Trump or Elizabeth Warren? Which one of them will be better at getting people jacked up? Which one of them will read a paper? Which will form a group to study something?

Conservatives. at least the populists (not intellectuals like George Will), don't really like multi-step logic or complicated stuff. They see the world in simple direct terms. They are inspired by symbols and ceremony, tradition, and general principles. MAGA! WTF does that mean?
They are gut feel people.

Liberals think we need to correct and overcome the many errors of thinking humans naturally do. All horses have shoes, John has shoes, so John is a horse. Conservatives want to not look at ourselves badly but pretend they don't exist, that humans are rational and intelligent (their tribe) or evil (a tribe they conflict with).

Liberals want to confess and expose our group's sins in pursuit of purity. Conservatives want to help maintain their groups image, helping each other hide their imperfections, because nobody's perfect, and we all want to feel good about ourselves.

Conservatives have a rebel flag and strong emotions. Liberals have a history book and want to lecture you.

I could go on. I don't think either liberals or conservatives have an answer. They just make different mistakes.

Danang, can you explain the distances on your phew map? You could not before. No "just a little folding" because that folding would finally work perfectly when you folded it into a ball. Tour map has clearly wrong distances. Until you produce a phew map with correct distances, you don't have a map. So say whatever you want back to me, but until you have a FE map with correct distances, you have nothing.

Jimster didn't read fully my previous posts.