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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2019, 05:15:04 AM »
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2019, 08:23:20 PM
P.S. I was a Petty Officer in the U.S. Navy

Wait a sec. You were in the Navy? Like, THE Navy?
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2019, 11:10:16 AM »
Quote from: boydster on April 13, 2019, 05:15:04 AM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2019, 08:23:20 PM
P.S. I was a Petty Officer in the U.S. Navy

Wait a sec. You were in the Navy? Like, THE Navy?
What do you mean by THE Navy ?
 I was using the term Navy as anyone who had ever been in A Navy....any country's
Navy.
Space Cow Girl has asked your question so many times she should know by now that I WAS   in the navy. LOL
Bullwinkle said he doesn't answer comments.
I try to.
So again are there any navy or ex-navy persons out there on this forum with any comments on the horizon at sea ?

I was just wondering what type of ship Bullwinkle was on  ?
I was on a small  size Escort Aircraft Carrier. (CVE) for about six months and a medium size Seaplane Tender (AV) for about two and a half years of my Sea Duty. I spent one year in Shore Duty in Recruit Training ''Boot Camp'' (11 weeks) and Electronics School  (36 weeks). I was a Second Class Petty Officer (ET2/E-5) at the end of my four year enlistment . I was eligible to be promoted to First Class Petty Officer (ET1/E-6) if I had re-enlisted .Pretty much just the average run of the mill so I don't have any thing to brag about in  my Illustrious Navy Career LOL. I was awarded the Good Conduct Medal !
 
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2019, 11:15:02 AM »
Are you telling us that you were in the Navy? This is amazing.
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2019, 11:33:51 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on April 13, 2019, 11:15:02 AM
Are you telling us that you were in the Navy? This is amazing.
I thought you would have known by now so many times you have asked that question ? LOL
I don't know what's so amazing about  it ?
There must be thousands or maybe millions out there of navy and ex-navy persons all over the world.
But I make no claim as ever being a real sailor......I was just part of the radio and radar repair team.
You aren't expected to know how to tie knots or steer the ship if you're an ET.
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2019, 11:43:32 AM »
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 13, 2019, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: boydster on April 13, 2019, 05:15:04 AM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2019, 08:23:20 PM
P.S. I was a Petty Officer in the U.S. Navy

Wait a sec. You were in the Navy? Like, THE Navy?
What do you mean by THE Navy ?
 I was using the term Navy as anyone who had ever been in A Navy....any country's
Navy.
Space Cow Girl has asked your question so many times she should know by now that I WAS   in the navy. LOL
Bullwinkle said he doesn't answer comments.
I try to.
So again are there any navy or ex-navy persons out there on this forum with any comments on the horizon at sea ?

I was just wondering what type of ship Bullwinkle was on  ?
I was on a small  size Escort Aircraft Carrier. (CVE) for about six months and a medium size Seaplane Tender (AV) for about two and a half years of my Sea Duty. I spent one year in Shore Duty in Recruit Training ''Boot Camp'' (11 weeks) and Electronics School  (36 weeks). I was a Second Class Petty Officer (ET2/E-5) at the end of my four year enlistment . I was eligible to be promoted to First Class Petty Officer (ET1/E-6) if I had re-enlisted .Pretty much just the average run of the mill so I don't have any thing to brag about in  my Illustrious Navy Career LOL. I was awarded the Good Conduct Medal !
Is there a mirage at the top of the oceans horizon?
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2019, 11:53:27 AM »
Quote from: faded mike on April 13, 2019, 11:43:32 AM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 13, 2019, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: boydster on April 13, 2019, 05:15:04 AM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2019, 08:23:20 PM
P.S. I was a Petty Officer in the U.S. Navy

Wait a sec. You were in the Navy? Like, THE Navy?
What do you mean by THE Navy ?
 I was using the term Navy as anyone who had ever been in A Navy....any country's
Navy.
Space Cow Girl has asked your question so many times she should know by now that I WAS   in the navy. LOL
Bullwinkle said he doesn't answer comments.
I try to.
So again are there any navy or ex-navy persons out there on this forum with any comments on the horizon at sea ?

I was just wondering what type of ship Bullwinkle was on  ?
I was on a small  size Escort Aircraft Carrier. (CVE) for about six months and a medium size Seaplane Tender (AV) for about two and a half years of my Sea Duty. I spent one year in Shore Duty in Recruit Training ''Boot Camp'' (11 weeks) and Electronics School  (36 weeks). I was a Second Class Petty Officer (ET2/E-5) at the end of my four year enlistment . I was eligible to be promoted to First Class Petty Officer (ET1/E-6) if I had re-enlisted .Pretty much just the average run of the mill so I don't have any thing to brag about in  my Illustrious Navy Career LOL. I was awarded the Good Conduct Medal !
Is there a mirage at the top of the oceans horizon?

I understand there can be, but I never had that experience of seeing one  during my brief three years of Sea Duty.

My Sea Duty was on three cruises across the Pacific Ocean from California to Japan usually around March of each year and returning to California from Japan each September or October each year. I can not recall ever seeing anything out of the ordinary.
We did run into some rough weather on one return trip back to California. Most was smooth sailing.....and no mirages .

Incidentally I do try to answer comments and will try to answer any questions you may have .

Also if any persons are interested in the nitty-gritty of nautical things like mirages, etc., you can learn a lot on the Encyclopedia Titanica website. There are several members and moderators who have had long and extensive naval services both in the Navy and the Merchant Marine. There are lots of photos of all types of mirages on the message board forums on the Encyclopedia Titanica website.

And a definite NO ! The earth isn't really flat like a disc. The earth is really round like a globe. Ask some of the real sailors on the Encyclopedia Titanica website.
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And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

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And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2019, 12:50:56 PM »
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 13, 2019, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: boydster on April 13, 2019, 05:15:04 AM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2019, 08:23:20 PM
P.S. I was a Petty Officer in the U.S. Navy

Wait a sec. You were in the Navy? Like, THE Navy?
What do you mean by THE Navy ?

I mean like the actual, factual Navy. Like in that song, "In the Navy," where they sing about sailing and stuff. THAT Navy? The one with the TV commercials and SEALs and everything?
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2019, 01:05:09 PM »
Quote from: boydster on April 13, 2019, 12:50:56 PM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 13, 2019, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: boydster on April 13, 2019, 05:15:04 AM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2019, 08:23:20 PM
P.S. I was a Petty Officer in the U.S. Navy

Wait a sec. You were in the Navy? Like, THE Navy?
What do you mean by THE Navy ?

I mean like the actual, factual Navy. Like in that song, "In the Navy," where they sing about sailing and stuff. THAT Navy? The one with the TV commercials and SEALs and everything?

Well you  can make your own judgment from my previous post .
That was how it was in MY. Navy.
But for most of us who were in specialty ratings it was not all that exciting......just routine at doing your job.
It was interesting and you learned a lot and saw a lot of other places in the world that you never would have seen otherwise.
The only difference between my job in the USN and the FAA was........In the Navy I was on land 25% of the time and at sea 75% of the time........In the FAA I was on land 100% of the time and at sea 0% of the time. LOL
 The TV commercials ......I haven't watched them so I can't make an intelligent answer.
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And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Look out your window , see what you shall see
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

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Yes ! Never, never, never,  ever go to sea !
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2019, 03:20:56 PM »
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 13, 2019, 01:05:09 PM
That was how it was in MY. Navy.
YOU HAD YOUR OWN NAVY?!
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2019, 03:39:32 AM »
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 13, 2019, 11:10:16 AM

I was just wondering what type of ship Bullwinkle was on  ?

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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2019, 07:25:43 PM »
Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 14, 2019, 03:39:32 AM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 13, 2019, 11:10:16 AM

I was just wondering what type of ship Bullwinkle was on  ?



Thanks, Bullwinkle -
Nice looking boat.
Congratulations !
You are probably more of a real sailor than I ever was !

The ships I was on were a little larger than the one you have shown.
Search on "CVE-118" and "AV-14" for more information and pictures.
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2019, 07:28:41 PM »
Quote from: boydster on April 13, 2019, 03:20:56 PM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 13, 2019, 01:05:09 PM
That was how it was in MY. Navy.
YOU HAD YOUR OWN NAVY?!

No.I meant this was just what things were like in the Navy in which I served in the context of saying "my country" for example.
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2019, 09:07:46 PM »
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 14, 2019, 07:25:43 PM
Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 14, 2019, 03:39:32 AM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 13, 2019, 11:10:16 AM

I was just wondering what type of ship Bullwinkle was on  ?



Thanks, Bullwinkle -
Nice looking boat.
Congratulations !
You are probably more of a real sailor than I ever was !

The ships I was on were a little larger than the one you have shown.
Search on "CVE-118" and "AV-14" for more information and pictures.
Just a little:

And the USS Kenneth Whiting wasn't so pretty.
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robintex

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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2019, 09:43:50 PM »
Well, we got a little off topic as regards the subject is concerned with this discussion .
Partly my fault.
But I thought it might be interesting to know where Bullwinkle and googleotomy came from as far as ships are concerned.

Meanwhile back to subject :
''Is the earth really flat ? ''
The answer is NO !
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Look out your window , see what you shall see
And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

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Yes ! Never, never, never,  ever go to sea !
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2019, 09:45:56 PM »
Quote from: boydster on April 13, 2019, 03:20:56 PM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 13, 2019, 01:05:09 PM
That was how it was in MY. Navy.
YOU HAD YOUR OWN NAVY?!

Bullwinkle looks like he had HIS OWN NAVY ?
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And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

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Yes ! Never, never, never,  ever go to sea !
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2019, 09:52:29 PM »
Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 12, 2019, 10:11:54 PM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2019, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 12, 2019, 09:16:32 PM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2019, 08:59:23 PM

Have you ever been on a real ship in the middle of a real ocean far away from a real shore ?

Anyone who has paid any attention to anything I have ever said knows the answer.

OK. What kind of ship were you on ?

It was white.


Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2019, 09:42:03 PM

How far could you see to the horizon from that ship ?

All the way.


Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2019, 09:42:03 PM

How many FE's are there who are even active duty persons or any persons who have ever served in a Navy  at some time ?

huh?


Quote from: Googleotomy on April 12, 2019, 09:42:03 PM

What is your answer about my comment on what I should see on my cruise  that I mentioned ?

I don't answer comments.

All the way from where to where ?
If I was on one of my ships the farthest I could  see was to the horizon.....2 miles to the horizon  from a ''Liberty Boat'' ; 10 miles to the horizon from the ''Crow's Nest . ''
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And you all may be Rulers of The Flat Earth Society

Chorus:
Yes ! Never, never, never,  ever go to sea !
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2019, 10:06:10 PM »
Quote from: rabinoz on April 14, 2019, 09:07:46 PM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 14, 2019, 07:25:43 PM
Quote from: Bullwinkle on April 14, 2019, 03:39:32 AM
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 13, 2019, 11:10:16 AM

I was just wondering what type of ship Bullwinkle was on  ?



Thanks, Bullwinkle -
Nice looking boat.
Congratulations !
You are probably more of a real sailor than I ever was !

The ships I was on were a little larger than the one you have shown.
Search on "CVE-118" and "AV-14" for more information and pictures.
Just a little:

And the USS Kenneth Whiting wasn't so pretty.

Incidentally both ships were only a little less than 500 feet in length.....About half the length of a present day full size Aircraft Carrier
Both were built on the ''C-3 Cargo Ship Hull '' .

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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2019, 11:53:33 PM »
Well, how 'bout that? A coupla' ex Navy brats on the forum!

You blokes must have been "close to the edge" at times, ey?
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2019, 04:20:29 AM »
Quote from: rubik80 on February 27, 2019, 06:36:19 PM
Can someone give me proof that the earth is flat my friend doesn't believe

It is easier to break the atom than to destroy the prejudice. If he doesn't believe so you can not change him. Do not deal to change him, it will be just a waste of time in your side.
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2019, 05:27:44 AM »
Quote from: wise on April 15, 2019, 04:20:29 AM
Quote from: rubik80 on February 27, 2019, 06:36:19 PM
Can someone give me proof that the earth is flat my friend doesn't believe

It is easier to break the atom than to destroy the prejudice. If he doesn't believe so you can not change him. Do not deal to change him, it will be just a waste of time in your side.
If people did not change their minds under new information then we would never have moved on. Early man did not believe any of what we said, they burned people at the stake if they claimed to be able to speak to others a long distance away, or to fly, or create fire, and you cannot get any greater prejudice than that. As time moved on however that prejudice gave way and we have phones and planes and matches. All people change. If they go through the same experience as you then they will believe as you, if you can only give them that experience. It is easier for you to change our minds than it is for us to change yours, because you have already gone from being one of us to being one of you. How did that happen and how can another experience it?
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2019, 09:39:05 AM »
Quote from: Vanyel on April 15, 2019, 05:27:44 AM
Quote from: wise on April 15, 2019, 04:20:29 AM
Quote from: rubik80 on February 27, 2019, 06:36:19 PM
Can someone give me proof that the earth is flat my friend doesn't believe

It is easier to break the atom than to destroy the prejudice. If he doesn't believe so you can not change him. Do not deal to change him, it will be just a waste of time in your side.
If people did not change their minds under new information then we would never have moved on. Early man did not believe any of what we said, they burned people at the stake if they claimed to be able to speak to others a long distance away, or to fly, or create fire, and you cannot get any greater prejudice than that. As time moved on however that prejudice gave way and we have phones and planes and matches. All people change. If they go through the same experience as you then they will believe as you, if you can only give them that experience. It is easier for you to change our minds than it is for us to change yours, because you have already gone from being one of us to being one of you. How did that happen and how can another experience it?

In the real world if you are not open to new information you are never going to be able to move on.
This is especially true in technical and engineering work.
It seems to me  that FE's are in stuck in ''the world looks flat to me when I look out my window'' and never move on from there.

Here is another suggestion for FE's .:
Which they can do with out leaving their keyboards on their computers.
Go to the Encyclopedia Titanica Website and ask the moderators and especially members. "Jim" and "Samuel" for Flat Earth information.
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2019, 09:44:28 AM »
Quote from: rubik80 on February 27, 2019, 06:36:19 PM
Can someone give me proof that the earth is flat my friend doesn't believe

Speaking personally , the horizon is the simplest explanation of proof  of the curvature of the earth , proof that the earth is a globe , and  proof that the earth isn't flat. This is most demonstrated  at sea in watching ships and land appear and disappear over the horizon.
There really is no proof that the earth is flat.
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2019, 10:11:10 AM »
Quote from: Sunset on April 14, 2019, 11:53:33 PM
Well, how 'bout that? A coupla' ex Navy brats on the forum!

You blokes must have been "close to the edge" at times, ey?

Sorry
I Never did even get south of the equator during my Sea Duty.
I just was interested if there are any navy or ex-navy persons on these forums who are flat earth believers ?
« Last Edit: April 15, 2019, 10:55:14 AM by Googleotomy »
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2019, 01:23:33 PM »
Quote from: wise on April 15, 2019, 04:20:29 AM
It is easier to break the atom than to destroy the prejudice.
How true and that is why you will never change.
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2019, 07:45:18 PM »
Quote from: wise on April 15, 2019, 04:20:29 AM
Quote from: rubik80 on February 27, 2019, 06:36:19 PM
Can someone give me proof that the earth is flat my friend doesn't believe

It is easier to break the atom than to destroy the prejudice. If he doesn't believe so you can not change him. Do not deal to change him, it will be just a waste of time in your side.

Rubik 80, no such proof exists. As wise says, don't waste your time trying to change your friend's mind.
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Re: is the earth really flat
« Reply #55 on: May 11, 2020, 07:36:16 PM »
Quote from: jimster on March 03, 2019, 02:28:06 PM
So, I looked out my window to see reality this morning. I could see nothing but gray half light, so I concluded that nothing existed outside my house, Later that day, it got warmer and sunnier, and when I looked out my window, there was my street and my neighbors. By the Zetetic method, I declare the world did not exist this morning, but was created (re-created? seems much like the world yesterday). i can only conclude that NASA created and destroyed my neighborhood, perhaps the whole world, but how to know?

I turned on the tv, but could be phony NASA broadcasts. No way to tell, NASA can fake anything.

But I looked out my window, and the world didn't exist at 7 am. About 9:30, it started to appear out of the haze. Remarkable, I was able to see as the NASA creation slowly came into view, as if emerging from fog. By 11 am, everything existed again!

I owe all this to the Zetetic method. Just look out your window!



Agreed
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